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Offline Jerk Chicken

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Yes the discussion around an immoral contract and prostitution is an interesting one within Contract Law, but the Laws on Blackmail, slander etc are not dependent on Contract Law in the same way that the Sexual Offences Act isn't.

From a purely practical perspective, whilst it is unlikely such cases, as described, would come to court, there is no legal obstacle to prevent this happening.

I think @King Kenny was a bit too sparse with his detail insofar as protection in law.

Firstly on a 1-2-1 basis this is not an immoral contract so that limb in law has been satisfied. The broader aspect of contract law is another matter. Full contractual rights are available to both parties.

Enforcing your rights if your “companion for the hour” does not deliver on your verbal contract is another matter entirely!
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I have had both positive and negative experiences when discussing UKP with girls.

A couple of years ago I postively reviewed a girl called Maddison Moore whose only previous review was a negative from a guy called Ron Swanson who was later banned (iirc) for trying to get favourable treatment for girls in return for positive reviews.

On our next meeting  she asked me if I had left the positive review. When I confirmed that I had she seemed grateful but I did not get (or expect) any favours.

Another time I had a good meeting with a girl and asked her whether she was ok with me reviewing the meet on UKP at which point she got very annoyed and ranted about the site (she had quite a few reviews with most positive but some neutrals and negatives). Lesson learned and I now never raise the topic myself and play dumb if a girl does so.

Its neither here nor their to me whether a WG wants a review on her on here, I don't do reviews for the benefit of a WG. As long as she openly advertises as a WG I can do a review on a WG as I wish, NOT as she wishes. I most certainly don't ask if its ok to do a review and I never mention UKP nowadays and haven't for years. Far better to keep that to myself in my opinion.

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No. Otherwise if you threaten her into performing something against her and more as opposed to her advertised sales list then it's blackmail, coercive consent & sexual assault & rape. They are service providers at the end of the day. Treat them how you would want yourselves to be treated in that position if the tables were turned.

I almost wait for the WG to ask me for a review. If that's their wishes.
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Offline mr.bluesky

Definitely not. This comes across as a creepy form of blackmail. A service provider should always give you a decent service irrespective of wether you post reviews on here or not.

Offline Moby Dick


I almost wait for the WG to ask me for a review. If that's their wishes.

Why?

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Im new here,

when i first came across this forum 2 years ago it looked great and it helped me in sieving out the good from the bad. However, i always wanted to ask the senior UKpunter reviewers if they tell the wags/agencies that they are punter reviewer and that this might give for a better service

reason being its because i once read a review by a ukpunter reviewer that used DIVA escort and sounded like they had a great time but when i went and saw the exact same wag i had a horrible experience and this happened 3 times with 3 differents girls

so i thought that ukpunters tells there wags in advance that they review escort for a better service ?

please enlighten me and if this is the case


There's an elephant in the room here which so far everyone has avoided.
We know the site has had a problem in the past with fake reviews / sockpuppet accounts in certain parts of the country. Notably we've had bad experiences with the Cardiff area agencies and the London/Milton Keynes HOD group. Both have been the cause of multiple bannings following the discovery of punters posting paid reviews.
Suspicion exists - much of it off-forum - that other agencies and parlours have also infested the site. The agency which is most subject to these rumours is Diva. Whether its true or not there have been repeated allegations concerning Diva reviews on here.
There's little that can be done to prove matters either way, but its important that reviews of major agencies and parlours are read with a very critical eye and be subject to challenge. The example noted above shows the problem well.

OP - can you identify the three girls and the reviews you read?

Offline OakTree


I almost wait for the WG to ask me for a review. If that's their wishes.

What do you mean you almost wait?

From this statement it implies they know you review which also implies you tell them such.

Offline Kingy28

I have a different AW name to my UKP name so a WG wouldn't know who I am on here because I wouldn't tell her pre-punt. However, a girl might be able figure out who I was if i were to review her on here if she was so inclined.

Offline Atlas1957

I think it is 50/50 if telling a WG you are a review gets better or worse service.

I do sometimes wonder if the parlours I review the most know who I am, I've certainly never told them.  I would expect the receptionists are smart enough to say to a WG I'm seeing for the first time at a parlour, this guy comes here a lot and that might be enough to get improved service from the WGs anyway.  It is one of the reasons you might want to have one or two regular parlours, they might see you as a good spender and treat you better.  Or, they might assume you will come back no matter the quality of the service and not put any effort in.  Exact same dilemma with a regular WG, does she go out of her way to make you happy or assume you will keep coming back for scraps.

I hope that any WG who is blackmailed by a UKPer finds a way to get the information back to us so we can find and expunge them from here.

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During my first punting period over 15 years ago I used to post a very large number of reviews. I went to great lengths to hide my online forum identities. (pre UKP)
 
Unfortunately most of my punts were in parlours at that time and as my punting became more and more prolific, the parlours were able to work out who I was and began warning the wgs in advance. Whenever I thought this was the case, I added it to my review ie that the SP may have been aware of my forum identity.

There have always been some punters who are only too happy to let the SP know that they post forum reviews (and even under what name) in the hope of getting a better service. SP’s generally have a low opinion of this as well as UKP punters. My perception is amongst UKP members this percentage is low, but I cannot provide any evidence to back that up. Inevitably within that group there will be a very small but still significant number, who go one stage further and threaten to leave bad reviews for whatever reason.

Of course as others have mentioned if your UKP username matches your AW one and you book through AW, then that limits your options further of hiding your UKP ID.

I had been escorting for almost 3 years before a punter alerted me to the existence of this site, it was the end of the booking and he told me he's going to review me here, at the time I didn't feel at all bothered,  I found it, joined lurked about for a couple of months and then discovered I needed to declare i was an SP so sorted that out.
Since then I've had  a few bookings from ukp members,  some of whom I've known are members but the majority of whom I haven't and I like it that way, some have reviewed some haven't,  I'm sure I've seen some who have said nothing and not reviewed and that's up to them, I don't and never will chase reviews.

The issue you rightly point out Doc is the intention behind why they impart that information and how they use it.

I can't post anything more detailed than this but I've had pressure applied regarding performance for reviews and its absolutely horrible

Offline Mr Sinister

No first rule of UK punting is that you do not talk about UK punting.

The 2nd rule of UK punting is that you do not talk about UK punting.

Basically all you noobs, don't get friendly with WGS, don't try to save them and play the fluffy white Knight, if they're friendly to you and give you extras for nothing keep it to yourself and enjoy these benefits as long as she gives it to you. Never get personal with these girls.

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No first rule of UK punting is that you do not talk about UK punting.

The 2nd rule of UK punting is that you do not talk about UK punting.

Basically all you noobs, don't get friendly with WGS, don't try to save them and play the fluffy white Knight, if they're friendly to you and give you extras for nothing keep it to yourself and enjoy these benefits as long as she gives it to you. Never get personal with these girls.

Here here  :hi:
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Offline Tonyg

Legality or morality of contract pertains only to the judiciary’s appetite to hear cases, not to the actual contract itself.

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It is NOT a good idea to imply on this forum that if punters bully, harass, coerce, or use their membership of this forum in any other way during a booking that there will not be any consequences.

If an escort makes a complaint the police will look into it, even if they can't take legal action they may warn you off. Apart from that you will not get another booking with her and your name and number will go on every warning site the girl can think of.

There are a lot of escorts who hate this site and openly state on their profiles they will not take bookings from members, it can put them on edge and make them feel uncomfortable and that's the last thing a punter wants in a booking.




Offline hermanmunster

I've never really considered this topic, although I have been asked early in a punt if I am a member here.  I innocently confirmed I was, perhaps I got a better service as a result.

On another occasion a lady told me that she regularly discusses her reviews (on UKP) with a particular client. Why would a client do that!?

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I've never really considered this topic, although I have been asked early in a punt if I am a member here.  I innocently confirmed I was, perhaps I got a better service as a result.

On another occasion a lady told me that she regularly discusses her reviews (on UKP) with a particular client. Why would a client do that!?
There's cunts on here who keep reminding escorts throughout the booking that they are members here. Why anyone would even want to mention it is beyond me.

Offline petermisc

I recall a case a few years back when a punter left what he thought was a positive review, but the SP took great offence at one of his throw-away comments and IIRC refused to see him again.  Lesson learnt: make sure you say nothing in a review that allows the SP to identify you (specific date or time, unusual service, etc.).

I would never mention reviews at all.  Saying that you are going to give a good review means next to nothing.  After all, how many times are SPs told by clients that they are definitely coming back, only never to be seen again?  However, if talk of reviews leads the SP to suspect that you might actually give her a poor review, then her attitude toward you is hardly going to improve.

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In my past experence hardely any women i've  been with have heard of any punting review sites let alone UKP in particular!...

Offline alftupper

No first rule of UK punting is that you do not talk about UK punting.

The 2nd rule of UK punting is that you do not talk about UK punting.

Basically all you noobs, don't get friendly with WGS, don't try to save them and play the fluffy white Knight, if they're friendly to you and give you extras for nothing keep it to yourself and enjoy these benefits as long as she gives it to you. Never get personal with these girls.

This.

Offline Home Alone

In my past experence hardely any women i've  been with have heard of any punting review sites let alone UKP in particular!...

I rarely see any new-to-me girls these days; but back in the days when I did, quite a few of the SPs I saw asked how I found her.

I always referred to AW and AW Reviews - a reasonable number of which you often required to be accepted for an appointment. But I feigned ignorance if she raised the topic of this site, knowing that if I did, then quite a few SPs would "go off on one"! :rolleyes:

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But I feigned ignorance if she raised the topic of this site, knowing that if I did, then quite a few SPs would "go off on one"!

Ahhh yes .. the 'hand grenade experience'.

Offline gbyld87

In my past experence hardely any women i've  been with have heard of any punting review sites let alone UKP in particular!...

In contrast, I've had girls bring up the subject on several occasions of their own volition.  I've also had them state they would actively want to be reviewed on here as they're new (especially as AW reviews aren't a thing right now), as well as being told by others they hated the idea of being discussed at all.

I wouldn't bring up the topic myself ever.

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People would really do this?

Given some of the things written by WGs on profiles etc, i'd be to afraid of getting my balls twisted until i was a gibbering wreck on the floor (and no i wouldn't like it!)
As said, why anyone would even want to mention it is beyond me  :unknown:
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People would really do this?

Given some of the things written by WGs on profiles etc, i'd be to afraid of getting my balls twisted until i was a gibbering wreck on the floor (and no i wouldn't like it!)
As said, why anyone would even want to mention it is beyond me  :unknown:

A thai madame did once threaten to castrate me over a review one of her girls got. I had to swear it wasn't me.....

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A thai madame did once threaten to castrate me over a review one of her girls got. I had to swear it wasn't me.....

Was it? :)


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It's very weird to bring it up. Try to distance yourselves from here as much as possible, especially when WGs frown on UKP.

Once it's come up for me in a punt, I saw a WG for the first time and then I gave her a positive but I said that she talked a bit too much and that she bored me a bit and then I saw her for a 2nd time and she immediately said, "You're the one who gave me the review you said I talked too much and I bored you!" Lol.

She laughed it off so it wasn't too bad but it still felt a bit weird she knew that was me. Just goes to show don't be too specific with details in your reviews!
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In my past experence hardely any women i've  been with have heard of any punting review sites let alone UKP in particular!...

I think a lot do imo, from my POV.

I remember once I gave a WG a negative for ghosting me and the next day she was replying to the thread defending herself. The WG above also.

Another time, before I was even on here a WG pointed at her belly saying people on a review site (I assume UKP?) think I'm pregnant, do I look pregnant? Lol. I was like wtf?

There's also a Mexican WG reviewed on here who there was talk of being a TS and then I saw on her profile it said on the questions bit "On UKP there's some people saying I'm a TS, I'm not".

Once it's come up as in specifically linked to me but UKP has come up in punts with WGs.

It's actually mad how much effect UKP has with WGs imo.
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Offline Mr_Shins

For me it can be difficult if they're on EscortingHub (or previously UKEscorting) as they're going to know who I am. The "find their A/W profile and book anonymously" thing doesn't work for me as I'd be asking them for my fetish.

I've also had one or two worry that "they'll try it out, but are worried if it doesn't go well they'll get a negative review". I can never promise to give a good review, but I don't have to give a bad review of someone who tried it but it didn't work for me, and so not giving one at all in those cases is the best option. Of course if they didn't even make the effort it would be a clear negative.

Midori-Chan was quite surprised when I gave her a positive review because she felt it didn't go well for her - possibly because I couldn't do sex, and she thought it was because she was fat, and that may have been a factor but it was also the fact that back then I was failing with everyone and had to start taking enhancement pills.

I later decided not to review some of them at all, regardless of whether it would be positive or negative, simply because I did not want to publicise the fact I had been with them. Given the nature of those sites, I preferred to keep it quiet.


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The only SPs who knew before I met them were those booked via UKE where my ID was the same as here. Some regs subsequently worked it out after I reviewed which meant they could link to my AW ID. And never forget that some SPs have localised WhatsApp groups where they do share (non-personal) information about punters with their mates. I doubt we are always anonymous as we think we are.

Offline dubhcarr

No OP I do not and Im looking for a value punt not a discount. I have had two Sps work out who I was on this forum both retired and took the information with them. If a SP does not give VFM then rightly she should be called out as this is not a cheap hobby and the converse applies. I do not believe many SPs are reading this site as a lot I have met are pimped indys ( :sarcastic:) and do not bother.   :hi:

Offline gbyld87

The only SPs who knew before I met them were those booked via UKE where my ID was the same as here. Some regs subsequently worked it out after I reviewed which meant they could link to my AW ID. And never forget that some SPs have localised WhatsApp groups where they do share (non-personal) information about punters with their mates. I doubt we are always anonymous as we think we are.

There's been at least 4 girls I've seen that have mentioned you to me (using your previous forum handle) for some reason or other.  When you're a local celebrity you don't get to be anonymous  :lol:

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Never.
If she mentions ukpunting, I deny all knowledge. Try to keep discretion/security/anonymity as high as I can.

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I don`t tell them, in the same way I don`t tell a pub landlord i`m on Tripadvisor
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There's been at least 4 girls I've seen that have mentioned you to me (using your previous forum handle) for some reason or other.  When you're a local celebrity you don't get to be anonymous  :lol:

Is he still riding that 900SS Replica?

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Is he still riding that 900SS Replica?
I’m moving on. A new Italian brand will be my new steed. Roll on the warm weather  :yahoo:

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I’m moving on. A new Italian brand will be my new steed. Roll on the warm weather  :yahoo:

gotta get the rust out of my Guzzi.......

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Semantics surely  :D

 :D true.... both can get expensive if you let them get out of hand  :lol:
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