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Offline The construction manager

Im new here,

when i first came across this forum 2 years ago it looked great and it helped me in sieving out the good from the bad. However, i always wanted to ask the senior UKpunter reviewers if they tell the wags/agencies that they are punter reviewer and that this might give for a better service

reason being its because i once read a review by a ukpunter reviewer that used DIVA escort and sounded like they had a great time but when i went and saw the exact same wag i had a horrible experience and this happened 3 times with 3 differents girls

so i thought that ukpunters tells there wags in advance that they review escort for a better service ?

please enlighten me and if this is the case

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Im new here,

when i first came across this forum 2 years ago it looked great and it helped me in sieving out the good from the bad. However, i always wanted to ask the senior UKpunter reviewers if they tell the wags/agencies that they are punter reviewer and that this might give for a better service

reason being its because i once read a review by a ukpunter reviewer that used DIVA escort and sounded like they had a great time but when i went and saw the exact same wag i had a horrible experience and this happened 3 times with 3 differents girls

so i thought that ukpunters tells there wags in advance that they review escort for a better service ?

please enlighten me and if this is the case

*WGs, WAGs is a completely different thing
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Offline Moby Dick

No I don’t.
If it is someone I haven’t seen before I discuss my expectations services before any money changes hands.
That should be enough.

What next threaten that you will leave a neg unless they do BB!

This has been discussed before on several threads, and I believe it is frowned upon by both UKP and WG.
WG should come forward if they feel harassed into giving discounts or extras or even feels she should up her game.

WG should be delivering their best service at all times.
If you aren’t happy with what you are paying for then mention it to the WG.

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Im new here,

when i first came across this forum 2 years ago it looked great and it helped me in sieving out the good from the bad. However, i always wanted to ask the senior UKpunter reviewers if they tell the wags/agencies that they are punter reviewer and that this might give for a better service

reason being its because i once read a review by a ukpunter reviewer that used DIVA escort and sounded like they had a great time but when i went and saw the exact same wag i had a horrible experience and this happened 3 times with 3 differents girls

so i thought that ukpunters tells there wags in advance that they review escort for a better service ?

please enlighten me and if this is the case
I am new to the site but not new to punting. The "good" escorts will give you a good service regardless if you tell them or not. The "bad" ones will refuse to see you if you tell them before you see them face to face. You'll probably get a better service from the "bad" ones but it still won't be good, just better than it would have been if you tell them face to face. That's my opinion anyway. It's worth a try, it's just how you go about doing it.
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No, i don't tell them i'm a member here. It may cause unexpected repercussions we don't need.
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Im new here,

when i first came across this forum 2 years ago it looked great and it helped me in sieving out the good from the bad. However, i always wanted to ask the senior UKpunter reviewers if they tell the wags/agencies that they are punter reviewer and that this might give for a better service

reason being its because i once read a review by a ukpunter reviewer that used DIVA escort and sounded like they had a great time but when i went and saw the exact same wag i had a horrible experience and this happened 3 times with 3 differents girls

so i thought that ukpunters tells there wags in advance that they review escort for a better service ?

please enlighten me and if this is the case
Most punters on here go out of their way to avoid the WG knowing who they are, they leave time before posting reviews etc.  Telling them about being a member in order to get a better service is not what this site is about. Members should be able to get the best service by reading genuine reviews and if an SP goes out of her way to make an impression in order to get a good review, the review isn't of her normal service and that doesn't help either party.

Agencies and escorts are encouraged to report any member trying to gain favour in exchange for reviews, many have and the person banned.

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He's an example of a member misusing the site and the result of his actions.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=289513.msg3023077#msg3023077

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I’ll be a honest I’m a bit shit about it all tbh. I use the same user name on far to many sites so it pretty obvious who I am.

If I book someone through AW and they know this site they will know me. If I find a girl on UKE they will probably recognise me from here.

I don’t really care I’ll be honest about my experience regardless

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Im new here,

when i first came across this forum 2 years ago it looked great and it helped me in sieving out the good from the bad. However, i always wanted to ask the senior UKpunter reviewers if they tell the wags/agencies that they are punter reviewer and that this might give for a better service

reason being its because i once read a review by a ukpunter reviewer that used DIVA escort and sounded like they had a great time but when i went and saw the exact same wag i had a horrible experience and this happened 3 times with 3 differents girls

so i thought that ukpunters tells there wags in advance that they review escort for a better service ?

please enlighten me and if this is the case

No idea what a WAG is in this context but I don't tell WGs I am a member on here, as said a good WG will offer a good service anyway.

Offline ollielon

Same I don't really say anything ... only a few times after a punt, I mentioned I would leave a good review when the service was great .. in the grand scheme of things I don't believe this site has a massive influence on the WGs business, proof is that some WGs with horrific reviews here are still up for business on AW ...  it is however an invaluable source of info for like minded people who contribute and use it frequently.

Offline The Owl

I've seen warning reports on SAAFE of dodgy punters demanding discounts or services not on an escorts likes list because they're UKP reviewers.  :thumbsdown:

Offline Boristheboy

I once happened to mention this site briefly whilst chatting with a girl during a meet (NOT to try and bribe her with a review)... quickly realised she absolutely hated the site and was completely against the whole concept, saying some very scathing things. Fortunately, the context enabled me to pass it off as just a site I happened to know existed... it was actually before I became a member, so I wasn't entirely untruthful.
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Offline maxxblue

I once happened to mention this site briefly whilst chatting with a girl during a meet (NOT to try and bribe her with a review)... quickly realised she absolutely hated the site and was completely against the whole concept, saying some very scathing things. Fortunately, the context enabled me to pass it off as just a site I happened to know existed... it was actually before I became a member, so I wasn't entirely untruthful.

I don't know why anyone would mention UKP to a WG/SP.  :unknown:

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I've seen warning reports on SAAFE of dodgy punters demanding discounts or services not on an escorts likes list because they're UKP reviewers.  :thumbsdown:

I can believe this happens but any sensible WG wouldn’t fall for that no matter who the member was.

Offline Boristheboy

I don't know why anyone would mention UKP to a WG/SP.  :unknown:
I can't even really remember how it came up. I think I naively thought it was something WGs held a positive view of!

Offline Yankee41

I made the silly mistake of having my user name here being too close to my aw name.  A few girls have figured it out .  Some girls are ok with it, some girls like it as it just increases business to them if they are good and other girls hate it and block me quite quickly.  I assume there is also a portion of girls who block me without a response or they could just not like my email.  We will never know.
I would never tell them upfront but if i am questioned  im not going to lie about it.  If they want to block me  because of it thats fine, i will find someone else who wants my money.  I also think they have something to hide and i shouldnt be seeing them anyway.

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I made the silly mistake of having my user name here being too close to my aw name.  A few girls have figured it out .  Some girls are ok with it, some girls like it as it just increases business to them if they are good and other girls hate it and block me quite quickly.  I assume there is also a portion of girls who block me without a response or they could just not like my email.  We will never know.
I would never tell them upfront but if i am questioned  im not going to lie about it.  If they want to block me  because of it thats fine, i will find someone else who wants my money.  I also think they have something to hide and i shouldnt be seeing them anyway.

Ask the admins, they can change your user handle.

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*WGs, WAGs is a completely different thing

Debatable, both fuck for money, albeit the latter for a fuck ton lots more money per shag than the former, and there's no NSA agreement after any of the frolicks and if you cross them then you'll be outed to the tabloids.

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Im new here,

when i first came across this forum 2 years ago it looked great and it helped me in sieving out the good from the bad. However, i always wanted to ask the senior UKpunter reviewers if they tell the wags/agencies that they are punter reviewer and that this might give for a better service

reason being its because i once read a review by a ukpunter reviewer that used DIVA escort and sounded like they had a great time but when i went and saw the exact same wag i had a horrible experience and this happened 3 times with 3 differents girls

so i thought that ukpunters tells there wags in advance that they review escort for a better service ?

please enlighten me and if this is the case

You're describing blackmail, which is a crime.  The transaction we enter into with a willing WG is legal, it may be considered immoral or sordid by the prissy moralisers that plague us but it is otherwise protected by law.  Attempting to coerce someone under threat of slander and reputational damage is illegal, relying on their fear of engaging the law makes it more heinous.
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If you aren't satisfied that a WG will deliver the value you want for your money then fuck off before the fuck and fuck someone else more amenable.

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I once happened to mention this site briefly whilst chatting with a girl during a meet (NOT to try and bribe her with a review)... quickly realised she absolutely hated the site and was completely against the whole concept, saying some very scathing things. Fortunately, the context enabled me to pass it off as just a site I happened to know existed... it was actually before I became a member, so I wasn't entirely untruthful.

Yes what that tells me is UKP does a great job, many many WGs and pimps have tried to bring UKP down over the years and failed, its not for WGs so personally I couldn't care less what they think of it.

Offline Thephoenix

Some SP's will refuse to see you if you tell them you're making an appointment from information gained on this site.

Offline King Kenny

You're describing blackmail, which is a crime.  The transaction we enter into with a willing WG is legal, it may be considered immoral or sordid by the prissy moralisers that plague us but it is otherwise protected by law.  Attempting to coerce someone under threat of slander and reputational damage is illegal, relying on their fear of engaging the law makes it more heinous.
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If you aren't satisfied that a WG will deliver the value you want for your money then fuck off before the fuck and fuck someone else more amenable.

The contract we enter in to with a WG is not protected by law. Provided it’s not in a brothel it’s not a criminal offence for either party, but it is entirely unenforceable as an immoral contract. External Link/Members Only

Offline IAMBATMAN

I usually don't mention it before hand but it does come up during the post punt chat from time to time. I've even been asked before a booking if I'm a member on here because some WGs have a real stick up there ass where it comes to us on here and will not see a member of this site so it's always best imo to keep it quite.
As for bad service it depends on the girl. Even the most seasoned and respected WG has those days they don't perform so you gotta remember they are human and have bad days too just like you, you don't know what's going on behind the scene. A good example of this would be this negative of Alana amour https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=287702.0
On of the most well known girls on the site and a staple of good service but this review is nuts given her rep.

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The contract we enter in to with a WG is not protected by law. Provided it’s not in a brothel it’s not a criminal offence for either party, but it is entirely unenforceable as an immoral contract. External Link/Members Only
You're wrong.

Offline IAMBATMAN

You're describing blackmail, which is a crime.  The transaction we enter into with a willing WG is legal, it may be considered immoral or sordid by the prissy moralisers that plague us but it is otherwise protected by law.  Attempting to coerce someone under threat of slander and reputational damage is illegal, relying on their fear of engaging the law makes it more heinous.
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If you aren't satisfied that a WG will deliver the value you want for your money then fuck off before the fuck and fuck someone else more amenable.
I don't think the OP is asking if members straight up say "look I'm a member of UKP give me a good service or I will leave you a bad review. I think he is asking if it's mentioned prior to fucking in an attempt to put that in her head. Bad example but it's like a restaurant knowing ahead of time that a Michelin reviewer is on the way so you better be on your A game, nothing illegal or wrong in the restaurant knowing and taking steps to get the best score they can. And i don't think offering incentives to do a better job that your paid to do is illegal, might be wrong tho 

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You're wrong.

Yes the discussion around an immoral contract and prostitution is an interesting one within Contract Law, but the Laws on Blackmail, slander etc are not dependent on Contract Law in the same way that the Sexual Offences Act isn't.

From a purely practical perspective, whilst it is unlikely such cases, as described, would come to court, there is no legal obstacle to prevent this happening.

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I think I wouldn’t mention it

Offline Moby Dick

I don't think the OP is asking if members straight up say "look I'm a member of UKP give me a good service or I will leave you a bad review. I think he is asking if it's mentioned prior to fucking in an attempt to put that in her head. Bad example but it's like a restaurant knowing ahead of time that a Michelin reviewer is on the way so you better be on your A game, nothing illegal or wrong in the restaurant knowing and taking steps to get the best score they can. And i don't think offering incentives to do a better job that your paid to do is illegal, might be wrong tho
Yes but most WG I see are more than likely aware of review sites so will be aware that the next punter could be a reviewer.
If the WG hasn’t heard of them then it is more than likely unsettle her and cause an issue.
Then there are the WG that despise any reviews (some genuinely for animosity reasons), others cos they are in the wrong job.
I find if you politely discuss your exectations then the WG will realise that you are a seasoned punter and will deliver.
If you just go along and think you are going to get for example deep rimming and you haven’t even bothered to wash your arse or mention it to the WG then don’t come on here slagging her off cos others got more than you.
If you have a speciific idea of how the punt should be then explain this to the WG, just saying you are a UKP member ain’t going to tell her what you want, unless you say I want the Moby experience and send her the review link - good look with that.

Offline Colston36

No. Quite a few don't know about this group. Usually the good ones don't give a hoot. I just tell them what I like, which is what matters. Many members here don't seem to bother, which is ill-advised. I do say if I like them I'll be back - which is true. And as I'm 356 years old I reassure them by saying how much feedback I've had.

Offline IAMBATMAN

Yes but most WG I see are more than likely aware of review sites so will be aware that the next punter could be a reviewer.
If the WG hasn’t heard of them then it is more than likely unsettle her and cause an issue.
Then there are the WG that despise any reviews (some genuinely for animosity reasons), others cos they are in the wrong job.
I find if you politely discuss your exectations then the WG will realise that you are a seasoned punter and will deliver.
If you just go along and think you are going to get for example deep rimming and you haven’t even bothered to wash your arse or mention it to the WG then don’t come on here slagging her off cos others got more than you.
If you have a speciific idea of how the punt should be then explain this to the WG, just saying you are a UKP member ain’t going to tell her what you want, unless you say I want the Moby experience and send her the review link - good look with that.
I think you'll find most punters don't review at all on any site so a girl expecting you to be a reviewer is unlikely but just being aware your a reviewer could change the attitude of some women. Lots of reviews are negatives based solely on the attitude of the girl so if she knows she might get bad feedback she might be less inclined to be a bitch or a lifeless fish

Offline Moby Dick

I think you'll find most punters don't review at all on any site so a girl expecting you to be a reviewer is unlikely but just being aware your a reviewer could change the attitude of some women. Lots of reviews are negatives based solely on the attitude of the girl so if she knows she might get bad feedback she might be less inclined to be a bitch or a lifeless fish
Keep it simple : tell her what you want and review accordingly.
Doesn’t do the rest of our community any good if you are “bribing” better service from WG.
If you do this then you should put at the top of your reviews “WG aware of my UKP membership”.
Also if you are a regular or seen her before. This can also explain why some punters “get more”.

Beware you may get into awkward situations, cancellation, bumped for “easier” punter, less animosity, potential outing/blackmail.

Offline IAMBATMAN

Keep it simple : tell her what you want and review accordingly.
Doesn’t do the rest of our community any good if you are “bribing” better service from WG.
If you do this then you should put at the top of your reviews “WG aware of my UKP membership”.
Also if you are a regular or seen her before. This can also explain why some punters “get more”.

Beware you may get into awkward situations, cancellation, bumped for “easier” punter, less animosity, potential outing/blackmail.
I'm not saying to do this I'm just stating what the OP is trying to get across as some people think he's asking if you should blackmail her lol. This is not what he's asking and no, telling someone to do something or else is not OK and may put you in the shit but her being aware of the fact you review could positively affect the outcome of the meet. Some people do put "aware of forum membership" at the top, I think you may be one of them Moby but for the most part girls arnt usually aware of my presence on here unless it comes up, to which I never lie about it.

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During my first punting period over 15 years ago I used to post a very large number of reviews. I went to great lengths to hide my online forum identities. (pre UKP)
 
Unfortunately most of my punts were in parlours at that time and as my punting became more and more prolific, the parlours were able to work out who I was and began warning the wgs in advance. Whenever I thought this was the case, I added it to my review ie that the SP may have been aware of my forum identity.

There have always been some punters who are only too happy to let the SP know that they post forum reviews (and even under what name) in the hope of getting a better service. SP’s generally have a low opinion of this as well as UKP punters. My perception is amongst UKP members this percentage is low, but I cannot provide any evidence to back that up. Inevitably within that group there will be a very small but still significant number, who go one stage further and threaten to leave bad reviews for whatever reason.

Of course as others have mentioned if your UKP username matches your AW one and you book through AW, then that limits your options further of hiding your UKP ID.

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No, I don't see brit WGs so it is of no relevance. If I did see a brit I would not say anyway. 

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No, I don't see brit WGs so it is of no relevance. If I did see a brit I would not say anyway.

Agreed that English women would be more susceptible to the offer of a positive UKP review ....... but so would any nationality of woman, if you told them you’d leave a positive review online. Not exclusive to nationality.

In answer to OP - no, out of anonymity but also because it’ll make little real difference.
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Offline IAMBATMAN

No, I don't see brit WGs so it is of no relevance. If I did see a brit I would not say anyway.
just because they arnt British doesn't mean they arnt aware of sites like this or that they don't speak English

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Yes the discussion around an immoral contract and prostitution is an interesting one within Contract Law, but the Laws on Blackmail, slander etc are not dependent on Contract Law in the same way that the Sexual Offences Act isn't.

From a purely practical perspective, whilst it is unlikely such cases, as described, would come to court, there is no legal obstacle to prevent this happening.
There's all kinds of implication around obtaining sexual services under false pretenses or coercion, it may not get to court but who would want plod knocking on your door to ask you about it if she reports it. I think it's a bit misleading to imply there would be no consequences in a situation like that.

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Some SP's will refuse to see you if you tell them you're making an appointment from information gained on this site.

I ve found that too  :hi:  Ive had several AW accounts and that other place  :( When I was punting (and able to do ) a lot 2-3 times a week  :yahoo:

I always said to WG I had found ad on AW or internet search I now never quote UKP`g as I feel they either hate site or want to infulence reveiw I changed my persona/body type in my AW reveiws and publish the sad truth about my shape size and stamina on here :( ...I have not so far got a negative from the AW reveiw comments from WGs but that will soon come i am sure I have been offered a discount if I joined this site and reveiwed twice ( I told WGs did not know of site  :D :D) they both were good shags and customer orentated  ;) but the request just made me think bollocks i did not reveiw.

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just because they arnt British doesn't mean they arnt aware of sites like this or that they don't speak English

Yes, I agree. I'm traverse brothels though where foreign chicks get shifted weekly. Odds are they will not have the time or care about a review site. They won't even try to have an extended convo if they don't like you considering the language barriers, where will the time to mention UKP in broken spanish, portuguese or google translate come from?

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As an SP I always assume every client is going to write a review on me, and give a good service (IMO), always think "your only as good as your last review", however if a client tells me he is a member of forums (which I dont have a problem with), that would set me on edge and make me nervous and self conscious, so for me not knowing for certain is best lol

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There should be no genuine reason for telling them, some will obviously know clients from these forums, others will work it out after reviews are posted, some even refuse bookings with certain forum members.

And if you use it as a way to try and get something extra from a meet, then you deserve all the grief you get, cuntish thing to do.

To me it's a no brainer, like not using your regular phone, or genuine name details.
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Offline samalison199

It wouldnt help you. A lot of WG have a lot of disdain for this website. Once it actually got me bad service, the girl looked disgusted at me for being a member and even implied she wanted a bad review as she doesnt want clientele from here. Plus its a little coercive and patronising and would only work on someone naive and desperate and there no good service youll ever get from someone in that situation.

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As an SP I always assume every client is going to write a review on me, and give a good service (IMO), always think "your only as good as your last review", however if a client tells me he is a member of forums (which I dont have a problem with), that would set me on edge and make me nervous and self conscious, so for me not knowing for certain is best lol

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Offline User176

No, I don't. It would immediately start things off on a sour note. A good WG will give every client good service.

No offense intended to the OP, but this is the punting equivalent of being that sour-faced middle-aged hag who threatens to leave a bad Tripadvisor review to the staff at every restaurant she visits. 

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100% NO!

That's tantamount to bribing them in my books... give me an extra special session and I'll make sure you get a good review.

Personally I am against AW and UKP names being the same, any savvy lass can cross check, as would we.

Offline pythondan

I have had both positive and negative experiences when discussing UKP with girls.

A couple of years ago I postively reviewed a girl called Maddison Moore whose only previous review was a negative from a guy called Ron Swanson who was later banned (iirc) for trying to get favourable treatment for girls in return for positive reviews.

On our next meeting  she asked me if I had left the positive review. When I confirmed that I had she seemed grateful but I did not get (or expect) any favours.

Another time I had a good meeting with a girl and asked her whether she was ok with me reviewing the meet on UKP at which point she got very annoyed and ranted about the site (she had quite a few reviews with most positive but some neutrals and negatives). Lesson learned and I now never raise the topic myself and play dumb if a girl does so.
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As others have said, it is not helping this site or other punters if you tell her.

But of course we are almost all selfish bastards in it for ourselves.  We may say I TOFTT: the expression is fine, but in reality, we are fucking her for ourselves, not for the team.  So, I suggest you not tell her to protect yourself.  Over time, the downsides for you really do outweigh the upsides.  If she thinks UKP posters are arseholes, she immediately thinks you are too. If you see her more than once, she expects a review.  And you can't win with most reviews.  For example, even if the review is very positive, if you say e.g. you think she was 33 (when her AW age is 28) she might get mad.  Any useful review has a high chance of upsetting.  Ok, the level head ones don't mind, but they equally probably give the same service anyway.

Offline FLYING BLUE

Im new here,

when i first came across this forum 2 years ago it looked great and it helped me in sieving out the good from the bad. However, i always wanted to ask the senior UKpunter reviewers if they tell the wags/agencies that they are punter reviewer and that this might give for a better service

reason being its because i once read a review by a ukpunter reviewer that used DIVA escort and sounded like they had a great time but when i went and saw the exact same wag i had a horrible experience and this happened 3 times with 3 differents girls

so i thought that ukpunters tells there wags in advance that they review escort for a better service ?

please enlighten me and if this is the case

No, most definitely not.
Aside from being creepy, that would completely undermine the credibility of the review system IMHO

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I have had both positive and negative experiences when discussing UKP with girls.

A couple of years ago I postively reviewed a girl called Maddison Moore whose only previous review was a negative from a guy called Ron Swanson who was later banned (iirc) for trying to get favourable treatment for girls in return for positive reviews.

On our next meeting  she asked me if I had left the positive review. When I confirmed that I had she seemed grateful but I did not get (or expect) any favours.

Another time I had a good meeting with a girl and asked her whether she was ok with me reviewing the meet on UKP at which point she got very annoyed and ranted about the site (she had quite a few reviews with most positive but some neutrals and negatives). Lesson learned and I now never raise the topic myself and play dumb if a girl does so.
I don't ask for, want or need an escorts permission to post a review, that is my choice not their's. I can't imagine why anyone would want to discuss this site with an escort in any case

Offline Trotter671

I would never mention I'm a member on here. As previously mentioned might make the WG feel uncomfortable which I would never want to do.
A couple of lasses I have seen have known I'm on here but not been an issue thankfully.