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"A mortgage advisor has warned that those who pay subscriptions on OnlyFans could see themselves rejected for a mortgage....Glen Russell, director of Russell Financial Solutions LTD, told the Sun: I have seen rising numbers of Only Fans customers turned down for mortgages due to the consistency of transactions on statements.”

“The lender has decided – because of the volume – that they’re factoring it into their affordability calculation, treating it the same way they would gambling. They said it was an addiction. Please try and avoid sending money to OnlyFans on your bank statement.”

I use to pay Onlyfans via paysafecard vouchers. Now they won’t accept that anymore.

Another way would be using other bank accounts instead using your main one to subscribe.

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I use to pay Onlyfans via paysafecard vouchers. Now they won’t accept that anymore.

Another way would be using other bank accounts instead using your main one to subscribe.

Or Paypal if they have that option. Personally never use only fans. but thought I'd share my tips
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"A mortgage advisor has warned that those who pay subscriptions on OnlyFans could see themselves rejected for a mortgage....Glen Russell, director of Russell Financial Solutions LTD, told the Sun: I have seen rising numbers of Only Fans customers turned down for mortgages due to the consistency of transactions on statements.”

“The lender has decided – because of the volume – that they’re factoring it into their affordability calculation, treating it the same way they would gambling. They said it was an addiction. Please try and avoid sending money to OnlyFans on your bank statement.”

Interesting that they get hold of it.

What’snext? Some people get addicted to punting.  :rolleyes:

So much for “nothing to hide” contingent.
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Big data can track you if they have a mind to … which = if some group or body pays them enough to make the effort worthwhile.

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Big data can track you if they have a mind to … which = if some group or body pays them enough to make the effort worthwhile.

What's it got to do with big data? Article mentions transactions on bank statements, ie lender wants to see some bank statements before handing over a few hundred grand loan. Seems fair enough.
I suspect lender would be spooked by any regular expenditure whether its Only Fans, clothes, clubbing, dining out or whatever. I'd call it responsible lending really.

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What's it got to do with big data? Article mentions transactions on bank statements, ie lender wants to see some bank statements before handing over a few hundred grand loan. Seems fair enough.
I stand corrected. If that is the only check then dedicated Fans (idiots?) could get round it easily enough.

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ONLYFANS star Lana Wolf has revealed she finds it difficult to date due to her saucy antics.

Lana told the Scottish Sun Online: “Since my OnlyFans blew up it’s been really hard to date.

“Guys say when they meet me they are okay with the porn thing but when they catch feels they try to make me stop.

“But it’s my dream job and I love it and I can’t be with someone who wants me to stop doing what I love and doesn’t support me.

“I also think I attract the wrong type of guy now, as most nice guys wouldn’t want to date a porn star, so I end up with people who are with me for the wrong reasons.

“I’m actually recently single and ready to concentrate on OnlyFans and collaborating again.”

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ONLYFANS star Lana Wolf has revealed she finds it difficult to date due to her saucy antics.

Lana told the Scottish Sun Online: “Since my OnlyFans blew up it’s been really hard to date.

“Guys say when they meet me they are okay with the porn thing but when they catch feels they try to make me stop.

“But it’s my dream job and I love it and I can’t be with someone who wants me to stop doing what I love and doesn’t support me.

“I also think I attract the wrong type of guy now, as most nice guys wouldn’t want to date a porn star, so I end up with people who are with me for the wrong reasons.

“I’m actually recently single and ready to concentrate on OnlyFans and collaborating again.”

These women think they can have their cake and eat it. SMDH. And from her actions she loves the money and the job more than having a good relationship with a good/decent man. Likely she will regret it when she gets older but likely will get married once she hit the wall to a man/simp she aren't interested in.

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I wonder if this is the sort of guy that subscribes to onlyfans in the new gen of men. For the record the woman had an onlyfans at one point or still does. 

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"New Generation Is Wildin: Youtuber Exposes Himself On What He Would Do To A Popular IG Model!"

What's even more strange the guy that spazzed over her out has over 2 million youtube followers and is 16 years old  :lol:.

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I wonder if this is the sort of guy that subscribes to onlyfans in the new gen of men. For the record the woman had an onlyfans at one point or still does. 

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"New Generation Is Wildin: Youtuber Exposes Himself On What He Would Do To A Popular IG Model!"

What's even more strange the guy that spazzed over her out has over 2 million youtube followers and is 16 years old  :lol:.

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"Alaw Haf, from Wales, says she has been repeatedly banned from dating apps. Believes it's because she is 'too hot' so people report her profile as being fake. The law graduate rakes in £44,000 a year sharing racy pictures on OnlyFans."

Nothing really noteworthy to be honest but the amount normally reported by this site on this subject matter seems to have decreased in this particular case. I remember when it used to be 6 figures a year being reported on their articles.

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44k????   Not bad for a fat 🐖 and no, she’s not as hot as she claims.

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"Alaw Haf, from Wales, says she has been repeatedly banned from dating apps. Believes it's because she is 'too hot' so people report her profile as being fake. The law graduate rakes in £44,000 a year sharing racy pictures on OnlyFans."

Nothing really noteworthy to be honest but the amount normally reported by this site on this subject matter seems to have decreased in this particular case. I remember when it used to be 6 figures a year being reported on their articles.

The ego on some of today's women put most ego driven business men to shame.

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Why? That still exists.

Not in the way it was in my day, nothing like it at all, we would chance our arm anywhere, I was on the tube this morning, big notices about staring offences, which is fair enough if it is over the top, no wonder everyone stares at their screens and ignores the world around them, chatting up someone when eyes meet is not the done thing anymore unless it is an app.

It worked both ways too, one girl waited over an hour every evening at a bus stop, for 2 weeks, smiled and chatted but I did not cotton on, a week later we were on our way out, 4 mates in a mates car, they spotted her first, were drooling as she shimmied along in a summer dress and denim jacket, I jumped out and scored, they did not believe me, until the following night when I brought her to the pub.

Youngsters are too scared of labels and accusations these days.
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The ego on some of today's women put most ego driven business men to shame.

They deserve a date with the tinder swindler then 👍👍
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The ego on some of today's women put most ego driven business men to shame.

And the internet has giving the ego to most of them  :D. Of course they were around pre internet, usually because they were stunners from wealthy families, but in general everything was so much easier, dating, one night stands, chatting up a stranger anywhere, banter at work, punting was an adventure of pot luck mostly.
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"Alaw Haf, from Wales, says she has been repeatedly banned from dating apps. Believes it's because she is 'too hot' so people report her profile as being fake. The law graduate rakes in £44,000 a year sharing racy pictures on OnlyFans."

Nothing really noteworthy to be honest but the amount normally reported by this site on this subject matter seems to have decreased in this particular case. I remember when it used to be 6 figures a year being reported on their articles.

I noticed the porn star victoria june quit only fans the other day. She says she wants to be a DJ instead.
I told her to call me on social media, the rasclaat gal still hasn't called me. Man can hook her up with some connections and ting, all I need is a nipple rub in return. I mean dam, who could turn that deal down it's not like i'm asking for pum pum.

Anyway my point is this, are the gal them on only-fans experiencing diminishing returns?. I heard lola london rides the bus and lives with flatmates (or used to before she moved). I would expect a gal as hot as her to be living in a gucci castle taking these simps for millions.   
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And the internet has giving the ego to most of them  :D. Of course they were around pre internet, usually because they were stunners from wealthy families, but in general everything was so much easier, dating, one night stands, chatting up a stranger anywhere, banter at work, punting was an adventure of pot luck mostly.

As I've said before, the internet and apps have killed off so many opportunities for random sex.

- remember when you couldn't get a minicab for love nor money and had to "stay the night" (fucking Uber)
- remember when you missed your "last tube" and had to stay the night (fucking Night Tube)
- remember when you needed to walk someone home to make sure they were safe (fucking WhatsApp)

Seriously lost count of the number of birds I've ended up sleeping with just for random shit back when I was young.

That said, punting sounds much better than that era of phonebox cards, ads in Loot, contact mags etc.

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I noticed the porn star victoria june quit only fans the other day. She says she wants to be a DJ instead.
I told her to call me on social media, the rasclaat gal still hasn't called me. Man can hook her up with some connections and ting, all I need is a nipple rub in return. I mean dam, who could turn that deal down it's not like i'm asking for pum pum.

Anyway my point is this, are the gal them on only-fans experiencing diminishing returns?. I heard lola london rides the bus and lives with flatmates (or used to before she moved). I would expect a gal as hot as her to be living in a gucci castle taking these simps for millions.   

Yeah I think the diminishing returns is really starting to kick in. The market is oversaturated with women doing it and piracy is prolific. It's a race to the bottom now. I reckon the downward pressure in earnings is impacting the majority but those with the highest social followings who can covert followers to paid subscribers successfully.

Oh yeah, and the cost of living is going up so less chances to spare money for a couple subs of OF girls I guess may have an impact.
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As I've said before, the internet and apps have killed off so many opportunities for random sex.

- remember when you couldn't get a minicab for love nor money and had to "stay the night" (fucking Uber)
- remember when you missed your "last tube" and had to stay the night (fucking Night Tube)
- remember when you needed to walk someone home to make sure they were safe (fucking WhatsApp)

Seriously lost count of the number of birds I've ended up sleeping with just for random shit back when I was young.

That said, punting sounds much better than that era of phonebox cards, ads in Loot, contact mags etc.

You couldn't make this ad now (though I'd probably walk out at the Phil Collins and she wasn't up to much anyway...) External Link/Members Only

Minicabbing was always handy between jobs, and working nights there was fun to be had, usually if they had not been pulled and horny. Used to make them pay the fare though  :D
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They deserve a date with the tinder swindler then 👍👍

FACTS indeed  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:.

What the saying goes, you attract what you are  :D.

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As I've said before, the internet and apps have killed off so many opportunities for random sex.

- remember when you couldn't get a minicab for love nor money and had to "stay the night" (fucking Uber)
- remember when you missed your "last tube" and had to stay the night (fucking Night Tube)
- remember when you needed to walk someone home to make sure they were safe (fucking WhatsApp)


Seriously lost count of the number of birds I've ended up sleeping with just for random shit back when I was young.

That said, punting sounds much better than that era of phonebox cards, ads in Loot, contact mags etc.

You couldn't make this ad now (though I'd probably walk out at the Phil Collins and she wasn't up to much anyway...) External Link/Members Only

It's more that just girls getting Uber and night tube seriously. Apps like Tinder and Onlyfans are mostly the blame as well as divorce counts and gynocentric society.
Tinder made it so the girl next door can have any man from the world in the pam of her hands. As Chris Rock said before, Women only date up. So most women will go after top value men and therefore find an average guy invisible or find such guy disgusting. Before that it was easier as all women selection was anyone from her village, Town or city. Though I say it was still hard for most guys to pull a girl at night out unless he was some what had some value towards him and the looks at the club. Now the ceiling has risen to just heights that it's impossible for most guys to reach. And only time these women that the guys fancy starts to date them is when she settle for you as high value man no longer wants to deal with her anymore as she got old.

As for onlyfans it simple. It's quick money. Payyourwaymate as point this out many times I believe but look back at this thread.

End of the day it's hardly Uber or night time tubes that is making it hard for average to pull a girl seriously. Today average women want top % guy and will do anything to get their cake and eat it by paying for Uber for her and some super attractive guy to go back to her place for some in out in out bedroom fun. Or going to the night time tube with that same attractive guy while average guy walks home by himself. And eventually in the future will settle for you once she had her fun.

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Far far easier to pay and enjoy and disappear than all this garbage

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Yeah I think the diminishing returns is really starting to kick in. The market is oversaturated with women doing it and piracy is prolific. It's a race to the bottom now. I reckon the downward pressure in earnings is impacting the majority but those with the highest social followings who can covert followers to paid subscribers successfully.

Oh yeah, and the cost of living is going up so less chances to spare money for a couple subs of OF girls I guess may have an impact.

I just wonder what future will be like when grand kids find a onlyfans clip of their lonely grandmother getting her freak on :D.

That said the future for dating/relationships sounds very very bleak as you got a good chance that your potential wife used to have a onlyfans or was prolific on tinder in the past. And I got a feeling if someone creates a very good onlyfans/Tinder app for escorting that will be game over for find a good woman and building a good relationship as I believe many women would jump on that train especially now as most women are more focused on their careers than having a family at their prime years.

On plus side if onlyfans get hacks that will be free porn videos from a fit neighbor we always wanted to bang  :D  (and maybe more videos from Rosalindxxx aka AmateurRosa ha) or having an amazing app for use punters to use if that onlyfans/Tinder app for escorting is ever made.

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Minicabbing was always handy between jobs, and working nights there was fun to be had, usually if they had not been pulled and horny. Used to make them pay the fare though  :D

I heard several stories way back of girls trading blowies for fares rather than taking the night bus back from central London.

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Far far easier to pay and enjoy and disappear than all this garbage

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Have to agree. All that hassle to maybe do the deed or have a potential relationship that will likely end. Or a marriage that will likely end with divorce, pay half or more or have you kids separated from you. Or have a miserable marriage and using UKP to find good escorts to satisfy your sexual needs. As your loving wife as stop giving you passionate sex after your and hers first kid (some cases having her back blow out by her someone else). All in all not worth it in the end when you could just pay for it sadly as today average women won't give you a chance of day unless your certain type of guy or you pay for it to a certain type of attractive woman  ;).

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I heard several stories way back of girls trading blowies for fares rather than taking the night bus back from central London.

What decade did that happen? And did this happen at some rough end of London  :D??? I doubt any girl from my area or back in the day (2000's - 2010's) would ever give me a BJ. Unless am some super attractive guy to which point she would be giving me a BJ at my place than bus stop.

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Have to agree. All that hassle to maybe do the deed or have a potential relationship that will likely end. Or a marriage that will likely end with divorce, pay half or more or have you kids separated from you. Or have a miserable marriage and using UKP to find good escorts to satisfy your sexual needs. As your loving wife as stop giving you passionate sex after your and hers first kid (some cases having her back blow out by her someone else). All in all not worth it in the end when you could just pay for it sadly as today average women won't give you a chance of day unless your certain type of guy or you pay for it to a certain type of attractive woman  ;).

It's easy easy to withdraw from cash point and go pay and enter in the most incredibly attractive looking women who otherwise I would just look at and lust over and dream about..



No hassles, no headaches, no dating..

Getting a super attractive woman with payment and cooking a tasty curry is within my realms..
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It's more that just girls getting Uber and night tube seriously. Apps like Tinder and Onlyfans are mostly the blame as well as divorce counts and gynocentric society.
Tinder made it so the girl next door can have any man from the world in the pam of her hands. As Chris Rock said before, Women only date up. So most women will go after top value men and therefore find an average guy invisible or find such guy disgusting. Before that it was easier as all women selection was anyone from her village, Town or city. Though I say it was still hard for most guys to pull a girl at night out unless he was some what had some value towards him and the looks at the club. Now the ceiling has risen to just heights that it's impossible for most guys to reach. And only time these women that the guys fancy starts to date them is when she settle for you as high value man no longer wants to deal with her anymore as she got old.

As for onlyfans it simple. It's quick money. Payyourwaymate as point this out many times I believe but look back at this thread.

End of the day it's hardly Uber or night time tubes that is making it hard for average to pull a girl seriously. Today average women want top % guy and will do anything to get their cake and eat it by paying for Uber for her and some super attractive guy to go back to her place for some in out in out bedroom fun. Or going to the night time tube with that same attractive guy while average guy walks home by himself. And eventually in the future will settle for you once she had her fun.

I don't buy this.  Yes, there are some pretty shallow women on dating apps but as we've discussed before it also tends to be quite unattractive ones sat at home thinking they're going to meet someone like Chris Hemsworth and not their own level and they thus stay single and embittered.  Most successful dates I've been on have been with women who are sexually curious and up for trying it with anyone who's not an arsehole.  In most cases they see several men a month as they just like fucking or being fingered etc.

The date up thing sounds more like incel rationale tbh.

As for Uber and Night Tube, as I said, there were often circumstances when you weren't even on a date but happened to be near the opposite sex e.g. parties of multiple people and just by random circumstance you would end up alone and shagging as a one night stand. 

By far the best supply of civvy sex to me since I moved back to London after uni has been the workplace and that's now also up the spout thanks to WFH.

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I don't buy this.  Yes, there are some pretty shallow women on dating apps but as we've discussed before it also tends to be quite unattractive ones sat at home thinking they're going to meet someone like Chris Hemsworth and not their own level and they thus stay single and embittered.  Most successful dates I've been on have been with women who are sexually curious and up for trying it with anyone who's not an arsehole.  In most cases they see several men a month as they just like fucking or being fingered etc.

The date up thing sounds more like incel rationale tbh.

As for Uber and Night Tube, as I said, there were often circumstances when you weren't even on a date but happened to be near the opposite sex e.g. parties of multiple people and just by random circumstance you would end up alone and shagging as a one night stand. 

By far the best supply of civvy sex to me since I moved back to London after uni has been the workplace and that's now also up the spout thanks to WFH.

Do you must of sparked a lot with your wire then 😂😂😂
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I don't buy this.  Yes, there are some pretty shallow women on dating apps but as we've discussed before it also tends to be quite unattractive ones sat at home thinking they're going to meet someone like Chris Hemsworth and not their own level and they thus stay single and embittered.  Most successful dates I've been on have been with women who are sexually curious and up for trying it with anyone who's not an arsehole.  In most cases they see several men a month as they just like fucking or being fingered etc.

The date up thing sounds more like incel rationale tbh.

As for Uber and Night Tube, as I said, there were often circumstances when you weren't even on a date but happened to be near the opposite sex e.g. parties of multiple people and just by random circumstance you would end up alone and shagging as a one night stand. 

By far the best supply of civvy sex to me since I moved back to London after uni has been the workplace and that's now also up the spout thanks to WFH.

The incel ad hominem attack is not bloody argument tbh either. Getting bit tried of people using incel argument when I am stating a different opinion to the status quo and barely refuting my point. And please have some compassion for people who are actually incels instead of using just Incel as an ad hominem to try to demise my point.

I asked what decade when picking up girls from Bus stops and etc.... happened before because dating culture before 2012 (pre tinder) is much more different than today's (past 2012 post tinder era) dating culture. Also little to no way a girl would go home with a guy or go stay over at some guy's place unless she knows him or find him attractive enough to do such thing in today's culture.

That and if you are lot older than me (past 20's or mid 30's) your experience with women would be far more different than average males experience from today's time for example as people back in the day attitudes, thinking and behavior are far more different than peoples attitudes in today environment. And also other factors add up to your success with women as well like money, potential, dating game, your looks and etc... which all pay a factor on pulling girls after a night out compared to average guy.

But that said I don't know you. So how old are you roughly or when did you go to Uni?

   

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Most successful dates I've been on have been with women who are sexually curious and up for trying it with anyone who's not an arsehole.  In most cases they see several men a month as they just like fucking or being fingered etc.

The date up thing sounds more like incel rationale tbh.

Women date up it's true, they are all sexually curious but will only give up access to sex to the guys they really like these guys tend to be attractive. It has been shown women over time in the world of online dating have become far more picky, just over 80% of men women see on apps they see as average and wouldn't date/sleep with them. You have to look at it if you are successful in online dating it's because you're above average and women are happy to get down with you.

A woman seeing several men a month and jumping from one dick to another shows she's really loose or has no standards and is not relationship material.

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As for Uber and Night Tube, as I said, there were often circumstances when you weren't even on a date but happened to be near the opposite sex e.g. parties of multiple people and just by random circumstance you would end up alone and shagging as a one night stand.

I don't agree on this, women's behaviours have changed towards random ONS I mentioned this before you rarely see random people 'making out' in a bar/club anymore. Women now have the power of the app to choose who she likes before committing to a hook up. One ONS I had the girl pulled out her phone after we fucked to check her bumble messages, didn't give AF as I would smash again that night then never see her again. Night tubes, Uber makes it very convenient getting back to her/your place. It's how you sell it that will make it or break it.

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What decade did that happen? And did this happen at some rough end of London  :D??? I doubt any girl from my area or back in the day (2000's - 2010's) would ever give me a BJ. Unless am some super attractive guy to which point she would be giving me a BJ at my place than bus stop.

Late 90s/early 00s.  I think this kind of behaviour is long gone, for a number of obvious reasons.  You also don't see drunk women flashing their tits to strangers on nights out anymore either.

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The incel ad hominem attack is not bloody argument tbh either. Getting bit tried of people using incel argument when I am stating a different opinion to the status quo and barely refuting my point. And please have some compassion for people who are actually incels instead of using just Incel as an ad hominem to try to demise my point.

I asked what decade when picking up girls from Bus stops and etc.... happened before because dating culture before 2012 (pre tinder) is much more different than today's (past 2012 post tinder era) dating culture. Also little to no way a girl would go home with a guy or go stay over at some guy's place unless she knows him or find him attractive enough to do such thing in today's culture.

That and if you are lot older than me (past 20's or mid 30's) your experience with women would be far more different than average males experience from today's time for example as people back in the day attitudes, thinking and behavior are far more different than peoples attitudes in today environment. And also other factors add up to your success with women as well like money, potential, dating game, your looks and etc... which all pay a factor on pulling girls after a night out compared to average guy.

But that said I don't know you. So how old are you roughly or when did you go to Uni?

I've only had one mate who used to boast he picked girls up at the bus stop, in the supermarket etc. No one ever saw these girls mind you.

(the BJs thing was girls giving them to cab drivers, not anything to do with bus stops?)

I was at uni around the turn of the millennium mate (one year later as messed up A Levels and had to resit them).

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Women date up it's true, they are all sexually curious but will only give up access to sex to the guys they really like these guys tend to be attractive. It has been shown women over time in the world of online dating have become far more picky, just over 80% of men women see on apps they see as average and wouldn't date/sleep with them. You have to look at it if you are successful in online dating it's because you're above average and women are happy to get down with you.

A woman seeing several men a month and jumping from one dick to another shows she's really loose or has no standards and is not relationship material.

I don't agree on this, women's behaviours have changed towards random ONS I mentioned this before you rarely see random people 'making out' in a bar/club anymore. Women now have the power of the app to choose who she likes before committing to a hook up. One ONS I had the girl pulled out her phone after we fucked to check her bumble messages, didn't give AF as I would smash again that night then never see her again. Night tubes, Uber makes it very convenient getting back to her/your place. It's how you sell it that will make it or break it.

I think a lot of women could say that about me really.  I've had some brief fun with women who were in it for a relationship and have called me a bastard shit and worse when it's become apparent that I'm not the unattached bloke I made myself out to be etc.  Hardly the Tinder swindler (most mention that blokes they see always turn out to be married etc.)

The behaviours I was referring to about ONS were literally 15-20 years ago.  One time I was the last person left at a party (people were vomiting outside etc. so weren't coming back in) and I helped the host tidy up.  Couldn't get a cab company to come as nothing available so she said to stay until first transport, then she said tidying up was sweet of me and 'one thing led to another'.  I barely knew her at all and didn't see her again after it.  It wouldn't happen now as there would be much more transport available, as I was saying.

I accept that women have to find you 'attractive' to even vaguely go through with anything, though you occasionally hear them say things like they "wasn't thinking straight, I felt sorry for him and let my guard down" (usually when some bloke is not leaving them alone due to a ONS she regrets), but unlike men they can find things attractive other than the physical such as intellect, character, attitude etc.
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Late 90s/early 00s.  I think this kind of behaviour is long gone, for a number of obvious reasons.  You also don't see drunk women flashing their tits to strangers on nights out anymore either.

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Those were the days
Real man days
Ruus cluut boombacluut maan yes yes yes yes 🥊🥊🥊🥊👊🥊👊🥊👊 eye of the 🐅👊🥊👊👊👊👊

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I think a lot of women could say that about me really.  I've had some brief fun with women who were in it for a relationship and have called me a bastard shit and worse when it's become apparent that I'm not the unattached bloke I made myself out to be etc.  Hardly the Tinder swindler (most mention that blokes they see always turn out to be married etc.)

That's different if you are seeing someone when you're already attached then that is a form of deception. Women have a right to call you out on it. I'll add everytime I am out with my 2 married mates they get plenty of female attention, women actively pursue them they don't care about the ring. If you are honest about it women may go for a casual fling.

Men and women are judged differently, men have to earn value so when we get to a stage where you can attract women and other women sees that even if it is your wife she'll be jealous but also turned on by it knowing other women wants you.

Women are born with value they have it easy, they are the gatekeepers to give men access to their body they choose who they sleep with, so if she gives it up too freely what does that say about her value? That's why things like body counts matter to men, for a man to sleep with 1 woman he has to go through a whole pullava to get there, he sleeps with 100 women he would have faced 100 rejections getting there too, women do not face the trials and tribulations we do.



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That's different if you are seeing someone when you're already attached then that is a form of deception. Women have a right to call you out on it. I'll add everytime I am out with my 2 married mates they get plenty of female attention, women actively pursue them they don't care about the ring. If you are honest about it women may go for a casual fling.

Men and women are judged differently, men have to earn value so when we get to a stage where you can attract women and other women sees that even if it is your wife she'll be jealous but also turned on by it knowing other women wants you.

Women are born with value they have it easy, they are the gatekeepers to give men access to their body they choose who they sleep with, so if she gives it up too freely what does that say about her value? That's why things like body counts matter to men, for a man to sleep with 1 woman he has to go through a whole pullava to get there, he sleeps with 100 women he would have faced 100 rejections getting there too, women do not face the trials and tribulations we do.

As I've said on here before, if you're already attached then you're more attractive as some women see it as a sign of social proof.  An attached woman is more likely to have an affair with an attached man rather than a single one as it gives them a sense of equality and shared risk.

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Late 90s/early 00s.  I think this kind of behaviour is long gone, for a number of obvious reasons.  You also don't see drunk women flashing their tits to strangers on nights out anymore either.


WELL WELL WELL.

This totally proves my bloody point does it. Seriously.

Again your views on dating is out dated by 2 decades and saying "The date up thing sounds more like incel rationale" just make you very clueless on how dating market is in today climate. And if you were in shoes of average 20's/30's man using your late 90's/early 00s game to pull girls your attractive to, you be pulling no girls at all and those same girls will be calling you an incel/creep/a nice guy with such actions instead.

It's like me saying I could pull girls in the 90's/early 00s. When in fact I have never experience dating scene in those times as I was baby/little kid. And if I had a time machine I will still need to know how people acted in the 90's/early 00's dating scene as my game of 2022's may not be viable in those times. For example people were more forward with their actions to attract the opposite sex back in the day. Today that not the case due to most people meeting up through Tinder or other dating apps and therefore don't know what to do if they decided to as a girl out the old fashion way, that or the fear of rejection is so strong with today's culture that they rather not bother. Heck some guys may get so scared from getting a sexual harassment charge.

Anyways the dating market is totally different to the 90's/early 00's. And no it got nothing to do with the transport availability of 2022's as women today won't bother with you if your not attractive and have some value regardless of how intellect, amount of character, or good attitude you have. FACTS.

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That's different if you are seeing someone when you're already attached then that is a form of deception. Women have a right to call you out on it. I'll add everytime I am out with my 2 married mates they get plenty of female attention, women actively pursue them they don't care about the ring. If you are honest about it women may go for a casual fling.

Men and women are judged differently, men have to earn value so when we get to a stage where you can attract women and other women sees that even if it is your wife she'll be jealous but also turned on by it knowing other women wants you.

Women are born with value they have it easy, they are the gatekeepers to give men access to their body they choose who they sleep with, so if she gives it up too freely what does that say about her value? That's why things like body counts matter to men, for a man to sleep with 1 woman he has to go through a whole pullava to get there, he sleeps with 100 women he would have faced 100 rejections getting there too, women do not face the trials and tribulations we do.

FACTS though I would say body counts does affect us men as well. It just takes higher number for that to happen and frankly they aren't many men out here to have typical side affects of high body counts compared to typical whore woman which is easy to find and see.

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Tinder made it so the girl next door can have any man from the world in the pam of her hands. As Chris Rock said before, Women only date up.
   
 
I agree with Sparkus
 
IMO, people with similar backgrounds, such as educational attainment or financial means tend to date eachother
 
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I agree with Sparkus
 
IMO, people with similar backgrounds, such as educational attainment or financial means tend to date eachother

Women only date similar backgrounds when they got no chance to date up. Let be real here if a woman has a chance to date up and be in a relationship with that "high value" man, she will take it.

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WELL WELL WELL.

This totally proves my bloody point does it. Seriously.

Again your views on dating is out dated by 2 decades and saying "The date up thing sounds more like incel rationale" just make you very clueless on how dating market is in today climate. And if you were in shoes of average 20's/30's man using your late 90's/early 00s game to pull girls your attractive to, you be pulling no girls at all and those same girls will be calling you an incel/creep/a nice guy with such actions instead.

It's like me saying I could pull girls in the 90's/early 00s. When in fact I have never experience dating scene in those times as I was baby/little kid. And if I had a time machine I will still need to know how people acted in the 90's/early 00's dating scene as my game of 2022's may not be viable in those times. For example people were more forward with their actions to attract the opposite sex back in the day. Today that not the case due to most people meeting up through Tinder or other dating apps and therefore don't know what to do if they decided to as a girl out the old fashion way, that or the fear of rejection is so strong with today's culture that they rather not bother. Heck some guys may get so scared from getting a sexual harassment charge.

Anyways the dating market is totally different to the 90's/early 00's. And no it got nothing to do with the transport availability of 2022's as women today won't bother with you if your not attractive and have some value regardless of how intellect, amount of character, or good attitude you have. FACTS.

All valid points apart from the fact I have, intermittently, being using dating apps to get my dick wet for several years now (even further back on POF/OKcupid).  Not back in the early 00s (the incidents I was referring to really were random hook-ups, not clubs or anything of the sort), that's what I meant about no cabs or having to walk people home etc.  I'm having a break from dating at the moment as it's not working for me in terms of work and other shit but what I find is that after a break I come back stronger, as in not making the same mistakes as the first few times.

TBF I actually didn't consider Tinder until I read about the success people were having on here and boy I'm glad I did.

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Women only date similar backgrounds when they got no chance to date up. Let be real here if a woman has a chance to date up and be in a relationship with that "high value" man, she will take it.

I wouldn't particularly class myself as high value and I have, TBF, received lots of knock backs in the dating world.  It's just been a combination of dogged persistence and learning that has worked for me.

Case in point: last woman to ghost me was Asian (Indian), late 40s, worked in the City, divorced.  Scrubbed up OK but nothing outstanding really, I doubt anyone on here would have the total hots for her (that said she was better looking than some 'Indian mature' WGs).  She was totally in the market for a relationship and nothing else and got quite shirty with me when I wouldn't share my social media with her (this does happen a fair bit).  As I say, I seriously doubt anyone on here would be making a bee-line for her or getting bent out of shape by her rejection but if she'd perhaps been up for some fun then yeah, it would have been worth trying it out with her, only that.  My point is that she wasn't some kind of stunner sat there cocking her head back with laughter at men's profiles, she a plain Jane with her guard up.  A lot of the women I've spoken to and quite a number I've met have been plain Janes from various countries with not many friends here who after work just go home to a flat and the TV, provided you don't send a dick pic then you probably will get a date as they just go on them for the hell of it.

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I wouldn't particularly class myself as high value and I have, TBF, received lots of knock backs in the dating world.  It's just been a combination of dogged persistence and learning that has worked for me.

Case in point: last woman to ghost me was Asian (Indian), late 40s, worked in the City, divorced.  Scrubbed up OK but nothing outstanding really, I doubt anyone on here would have the total hots for her (that said she was better looking than some 'Indian mature' WGs).  She was totally in the market for a relationship and nothing else and got quite shirty with me when I wouldn't share my social media with her (this does happen a fair bit).  As I say, I seriously doubt anyone on here would be making a bee-line for her or getting bent out of shape by her rejection but if she'd perhaps been up for some fun then yeah, it would have been worth trying it out with her, only that.  My point is that she wasn't some kind of stunner sat there cocking her head back with laughter at men's profiles, she a plain Jane with her guard up.  A lot of the women I've spoken to and quite a number I've met have been plain Janes from various countries with not many friends here who after work just go home to a flat and the TV, provided you don't send a dick pic then you probably will get a date as they just go on them for the hell of it.

I agree.  Honestly there's a lot of guys that think, all women are being treated like divine goddesses.

They are quite a few women that get that treatment:
Guys buying them dinner.
Guys giving them money for no reason whatsoever.
Guys dishing out compliment.
Being able to choose and sleep with the hottest men.
Being able to laugh and sneer at the average man trying to get in their pants.

Yes there's a sizeable percentage of women especially in cities like London, Manchester and Liverpool.

However in my experience and those of most guys I know, most women aren't like that.  Especially those not in their teens or 20s.  Imagine the woman that has an unremarkable face, no ass or chest.  Works in a job that doesn't pay that much and doesn't live in London, Manchester or Liverpool.  She's been dumped by average guys and it was painful.  She's in her late 20s/early 30s and envisions herself having a family one day. 

She has options on Tinder but she's also met some crazies on there and has seen more dick pics than she's ever wanted.
She's not looking for some supermodel guy, multi millionaire or even a guy that good looking.  She's looking for good conversation, a guy that isn't some sex crazed pervert and a guy that makes her feel safe.

The thing is to meet women like those above, there's a lot of girls we have to basically filter out and we can't get bitter or needy.  It takes time, patience but it's possible in my opinion.  Anyways that's just my 2 cents.

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"OnlyFans has been accused of conspiring to blacklist the social media accounts of adult performers working for rival websites, BBC News has learned."

There was one point in the article I forgot to mention that really highlights the importance of social media in this line of work. It was related to Content Providers getting shadow-banned and seeing a detrimental fall in income.


"In recent years, performers using Instagram to promote and link to their adult websites have complained that even though they have not broken the site's community guidelines - they have been served with violation notifications and had posts removed. The subsequent loss of visibility and promotion of these accounts became known as a "shadowban".

For performers, it remains a mystery to what extent any action taken against accounts was because of specific policy or targeted moderation of their content.

"We were seeing mass deletions without any real clear reason as to what was happening or why," says Alana Evans, president of a group which represents performers - the Adult Performers Actors Guild.

She says she has seen performers fall into severe financial difficulty with some even left homeless."

"In recent years, performers using Instagram to promote and link to their adult websites have complained that even though they have not broken the site's community guidelines - they have been served with violation notifications and had posts removed. The subsequent loss of visibility and promotion of these accounts became known as a "shadowban".....

One model, who we're calling Camila to protect her identity, used to have millions of followers on her Instagram account - which is verified, similar to a blue tick on Twitter. She says the removal of much of her content and eventual closure of her account had a "devastating" impact on her.

Camila's posts regularly feature her in a bikini or underwear. Typically, she would accompany her photos with links to an adult website - an OnlyFans' rival - which hosted videos that users needed to pay to watch.

In October 2018, she began receiving violation notifications for content removed by Instagram. Soon, posts started to be taken down regularly. Some of the photos removed were mundane images - including tourist snaps when she was fully clothed.

"They started to get deleted several times a day and then several posts at a time," she says.

BBC News has learned that Camila's Instagram account status - only visible by engineering staff - was changed to "critical". This meant it was not promoted as prominently any more, leading to reduced visibility.

"My page was slowly dying and losing followers because posts were getting deleted. It means nobody sees me," she says.

Camila says she continually appealed against the removal of her pictures but only received an automated response. At one point, even her ability to appeal to Instagram was removed, she says. Her account was later closed completely.

Camila says she used to earn at least $50,000 (£36,000) a month from performing on the adult site but now makes a fraction of that amount without her Instagram account driving traffic to it."



These timelines shown in the article where content providers were impacted seems to have been before OF blew up in 2020. It must be exacerbated now, the impact of social media and shadow banning in addition to the saturated market in terms of potential downward pressure on earnings.
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Let be real here if a woman has a chance to date up and be in a relationship with that "high value" man, she will take it.

If I had the chance to date up and be in a relationship with a girl that has Oprah's financial success I would take it 🤣


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Imagine the woman that has an unremarkable face, no ass or chest.  Works in a job that doesn't pay that much and doesn't live in London, Manchester or Liverpool.  She's been dumped by average guys and it was painful.  She's in her late 20s/early 30s and envisions herself having a family one day. 

She has options on Tinder but she's also met some crazies on there and has seen more dick pics than she's ever wanted.
She's not looking for some supermodel guy, multi millionaire or even a guy that good looking.  She's looking for good conversation, a guy that isn't some sex crazed pervert and a guy that makes her feel safe.


These type of women get relegated to the likes of pof and OkCupid they are just as entitled and picky. I'm on there now and it's hard work, the ones who state they want a good conversation either cannot hold one or they just seem to stop the convo dead after a few messages. I'm careful to what questions I ask and words I use. It could be my profile, I'm tall, good pics, good job, plenty of interests my SMV is way above most women I send messages to so I could just be a fucboi in sheep's clothing to them. These women(mid 30s) don't realize the buzzer is ticking for them, you either lower your expectations or risk being a lonely cat lady in your 40s that's when they become invisible in the dating market.(I've fucked a fair amount of them)


If I had the chance to date up and be in a relationship with a girl that has Oprah's financial success I would take it 🤣

Dating up for an average man rarely happens, when it does with a rich female it just spells trouble as you will always be under the women's thumb. Most likely you'll just end up cheating on her anyway.
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