Author Topic: What do you think your paid vs real lay ratio is?  (Read 1694 times)

Offline jaydefo24

Random daydream I had... how many girls and women have I had full sexual intercourse with that I paid for the pleasure of vs real life pull ?

I’m fair sure it’s about

65 paid vs 23 real life.

Sounds pretty lame. What about you ?

Offline Fisherman

40-50 paid  5 civies even lamer

I ain’t blessed with looks  :scare:  :scare: :scare:
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Offline Corus Boy

My sex live is split in half.

Upto the age of 50 pretty much 100% free, save running costs, dinners, drinks, presents. I never had any problems pulling back then.

50+, probably 75/25% paid, I occaisionaly consider stopping punting but the unpaid sex often ends up carrying a lot of baggage that I don't want in my life.So while I can afford punting I'm guessing I'll continue.

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 punting is probably 75% for me 
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Offline winkywanky

Over the course of my life, the ratio is probably 1:9 (unpaid:paid).

And as I get even older, that ratio will continue to increase at a rapid rate until, as Jack Bruce sang, all my seas have run dry.

Offline King Nuts

Random daydream I had... how many girls and women have I had full sexual intercourse with that I paid for the pleasure of vs real life pull ?

I’m fair sure it’s about

65 paid vs 23 real life.

Sounds pretty lame. What about you ?

Doesn't sound lame at all. Sounds about right to me, and not unlike my own tally.

I've been married three times, and apart from that, there's probably been 5 or 6 women over my lifetime who could have been called girlfriends. Then there were a couple of phases of intense internet dating, where one-off encounters probably numbered between fifteen and twenty women in all. So the total civvy score would be around 25 to 30.

Tarts? Jeez. I went through two phases, one in the mid 90s and another, mostly in the 00s, when I just caned it. That could easily stack up to 50+. It all seems a bit of blur now.

So on the civvy vs tart scale, I'd say it's probably two thirds tarts, one third civvy.
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Offline Colston36

I was lucky when young and apart from one when drunk in Paris in about 1980 and 5 paid about twenty years ago when my last marriage was faltering I got it all free. But since 2015 all paid except a couple. And excellent too for the most part.

Offline jesse4585

Probably about 60 : 8
(Have had a couple of LTRs during which time I didn't punt, & I often re-visit regs, so despite my punting going back to the early 90s, I've not had that much variety.)


Sadly, much harder for younger guys to get even a small number of unpaid conquests these days, unless they're well above average for looks.

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Sadly, much harder for younger guys to get even a small number of unpaid conquests these days, unless they're well above average for looks.

Is that really the case? Why do you think it is?

Offline SZR1989

A free lay doesn't exist; dates, gifts, holidays, rings. Spent £10k on a wedding ring for my ex-fiancée and all i got was BS for a year. Just glad we didn't make it to the wedding!

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Late bloomer then three decades of sparse monogamous relations with a handful of sexually enthusiastic civvies and rampant paid-for pussy every few days, a week or a fortnight when single.  So the ratio is hundreds to one in terms of women, tens to one shagwise.

Offline King Nuts

A free lay doesn't exist; dates, gifts, holidays, rings. Spent £10k on a wedding ring for my ex-fiancée and all i got was BS for a year. Just glad we didn't make it to the wedding!

A free lay doesn't exist in the same way a free lunch doesn't exist. But you can minimise the damage or cost, if you're careful.

Offline willie loman

70% paid 30% free, had jobs where a shag was guaranteed, hotel work, tourism, teaching, but my last free shag had a bush, its been that long, will be a punter till it all packs in.

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A free lay doesn't exist; dates, gifts, holidays, rings. Spent £10k on a wedding ring for my ex-fiancée and all i got was BS for a year. Just glad we didn't make it to the wedding!


Hmmm, paid for sex with sexy SP.  Said SP then agrees to meet away from "work".  Sexy SP comes to my place after dinnertime and stays the night for some unpaid "spirited mutual pleasure".  Sexy SP leaves in morning after another bout of pleasure, paying for her own taxi.  Granted I paid for couple of teabags, milk and boiling the kettle...
This happened a few times over the weeks we hung out, no obligation to marry, no subsequent chase for child support, no blackmail or unaccounted for losses from my bank account.

It cost me more to pay for the morning after pill for the model in my avatar.

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70% paid 30% free, had jobs where a shag was guaranteed, hotel work, tourism, teaching, but my last free shag had a bush, its been that long, will be a punter till it all packs in.

Teaching?

Pray do give us all a pointer or two for that to happen (presumably with adult teachers, parents or mature students).  :hi:

Offline willie loman

Teaching?

Pray do give us all a pointer or two for that to happen (presumably with adult teachers, parents or mature students).  :hi:

All legal, wasn't a proper teacher, a tefl teacher, so you can shag your colleagues, and your students.

Offline jesse4585

Is that really the case?
Yup.

Why do you think it is?

It's complex & multi causal.  I'll just sketch the reasons  briefly for now,  if you're interested in a long read with links let me know & I might write in more detail later. (no promises though, writing good long posts is hard work at my age...)

Reasons why scoring with civies is now harder for most young men include the advancement of so called "gender equality"  & dating platforms .   The fact that young women now earn more on average than young men (at least in UK)  mean's they're  less likely to hook up with someone they're not sexually attracted to just to be financially supported.  The rise of Tinder & the rest means women are relatively free from older spatial constraints, allowing them to act on their preference to hook up with the most attractive men rather than settle with someone from the much smaller group of males they meet in regular life.

The underlying reasons  why 'social progress' & platforms are effecting young men differently than women relate to gender differences in sexual selection, especially phenomena like 'sexual disgust'.  While there's many exceptions,  women's higher average sexual disgust means they're less likely to desire sex with someone with only average looks.

There's extreme versions of this sort of thinking out on the net that claims women can only be motivated to have sex by money or model class looks. That's false, the old sayings about love being a mysterious thing are partly true, couples sometimes 'click' due to compatible personalities etc. 

But a lad's looks are definitely more important for dating than they were a few decades back - anyone who denies this is opinionated & not in touch with how the world's changed.


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All legal, wasn't a proper teacher, a tefl teacher, so you can shag your colleagues, and your students.

Aha!  That's one of my options coming out of lockdown, get a TEFL or CELTA and head for Thailand, China, Japan or Vietnam

Offline willie loman

Aha!  That's one of my options coming out of lockdown, get a TEFL or CELTA and head for Thailand, China, Japan or Vietnam

Fine, a friend of mine who has never had a girlfriend did quite well in south korea, and Taiwan.

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Fine, a friend of mine who has never had a girlfriend did quite well in south korea, and Taiwan.

Awesome, will add to list of destinations. :thumbsup:

Offline berksboy

900+ / 100+

was on swinging heaven and before that contact magazines so got a lot of free sex that way.

Offline bugsybum

over 25 paid to 0 Civvies. I am middle aged, obese and have a face like a bag of spanners and a cock like a slug having a stroke. I also have a disability but if you forget all that i am quite a catch!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

Offline robsmith149

Probably 50% each, though nowadays all paid as i just don't want to shag women of my age (50's)

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900+ / 100+

was on swinging heaven and before that contact magazines so got a lot of free sex that way.

But only four reviews, all negative.

Keeping the good ones for yourself?

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probably 50:1 and rapidly increasing or will be when COVID is over, rarely see the same girl twice

1 marriage and a couple of LTRs ,  each starting with once a night and ending with once a fortnight sex so in terms of shags its probably nearer 1:50 though

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Even a conservative estimate of WGs is in the several hundreds now (there will be some if you literally stood them in front of me naked I'd have no recollection of the event).  After discovering the joys of dating apps and unfettered freedom, I'm pleased to say the ratio last year was probably around 60:40 to paid/non-paid.  One of those popped up recently on social media as a suggested contact, again I initially completely forgot we were seeing each for a while last year when I saw the pic.

The blight on civvie shagging in the past few years has been #metoo in the workplace, being too old to go out on the pull anymore (does anyone?) and elimination of random occurances which facilitated stayovers (no "missed the last tube home" with Night Tube, no "no cabs available this time of night" with Uber).
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over 25 paid to 0 Civvies. I am middle aged, obese and have a face like a bag of spanners and a cock like a slug having a stroke. I also have a disability but if you forget all that i am quite a catch!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

back in the 1980's I'm sure there was a professional football score similar to that..
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Offline King Nuts

Yup.

It's complex & multi causal.  I'll just sketch the reasons  briefly for now,  if you're interested in a long read with links let me know & I might write in more detail later. (no promises though, writing good long posts is hard work at my age...)

Reasons why scoring with civies is now harder for most young men include the advancement of so called "gender equality"  & dating platforms .   The fact that young women now earn more on average than young men (at least in UK)  mean's they're  less likely to hook up with someone they're not sexually attracted to just to be financially supported.  The rise of Tinder & the rest means women are relatively free from older spatial constraints, allowing them to act on their preference to hook up with the most attractive men rather than settle with someone from the much smaller group of males they meet in regular life.

The underlying reasons  why 'social progress' & platforms are effecting young men differently than women relate to gender differences in sexual selection, especially phenomena like 'sexual disgust'.  While there's many exceptions,  women's higher average sexual disgust means they're less likely to desire sex with someone with only average looks.

There's extreme versions of this sort of thinking out on the net that claims women can only be motivated to have sex by money or model class looks. That's false, the old sayings about love being a mysterious thing are partly true, couples sometimes 'click' due to compatible personalities etc. 

But a lad's looks are definitely more important for dating than they were a few decades back - anyone who denies this is opinionated & not in touch with how the world's changed.

I'll take your word for all of this. Last time I was on a dating site was before the Tinder, swipe-left phenomenon had taken off. Also, if I were back in the fray, I wouldn't be interested in anyone under mid-40s, so I can't speak for what twentysomething women want out of a date or a relationship.

But I do know this: that if you can string a sentence together, you're not a social retard, you know some decent bars and restaurants to go to, and you understand the etiquette about who pays for what, then you stand as good a chance as anyone, provided you don't look like Quasimodo.



Offline Hobbit

Over 20 years of punting - I've shagged over 100+ paid shags and a couple of freebies.  :hi:

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99% punting over a lifetime - %100 punting nowadays.