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Offline RAJEC

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Never liked him, but everyone I've spoken to seems to think he is piss funny.

I don’t understand what it is about him. He can’t even talk properly  :unknown:

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I think it depends how the material translates. I think Septics generally like British comedians more than we like American ones. You can see how massive Monty Python and to a lesser extent Billy Connolly and Benny Hill were in America. Apart from a few crap films like American Pie it seems too OTT to us. I love Bill Burr, but don't find his stand up piss funny, but I do enjoy it as I am watching a master craftsman the same with Bill Hicks (way overrated IMO), Eddie Murphy, Robin Williams, George Carlin and Richard Pryor.

I've said it before, but I do believe Curb Your Enthusiasm is one of the best comedies of the last 20 years and very little current comedies touch it.

Yes it’s excellent. And season 11 has just started. It’s a binge worthy show as you just want to see what he gets into next.

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I rarely watch series so I googled and found “best funny moments of curb your enthusiasm. I managed to watch the first three sketches. I know humour is very personal but I just found them stupid, silly and annoying. Possibly why I instinctively avoided it.

I find most of the Monty Python office scenes funny, most if not all of The Office (British version) and one of the funniest office scenes ever the vacuum cleaner scene from Mulholland Drive. I just find this Larry fellow a bit lame. He’s maybe a clever chap, I don’t know. So was Robin Williams, and I remember finding the occasional scene of his funny (and so was the occasional scene from Friends or Cheers). But as you say, English humour seems more universal than American humour — and nothing against them, though I can’t think of any American comedians that I personally would pay money to see do stand-up. They just bore the tits off me.

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I rarely watch series so I googled and found “best funny moments of curb your enthusiasm. I managed to watch the first three sketches. I know humour is very personal but I just found them stupid, silly and annoying. Possibly why I instinctively avoided it.

I find most of the Monty Python office scenes funny, most if not all of The Office (British version) and one of the funniest office scenes ever the vacuum cleaner scene from Mulholland Drive. I just find this Larry fellow a bit lame. He’s maybe a clever chap, I don’t know. So was Robin Williams, and I remember finding the occasional scene of his funny (and so was the occasional scene from Friends or Cheers). But as you say, English humour seems more universal than American humour — and nothing against them, though I can’t think of any American comedians that I personally would pay money to see do stand-up. They just bore the tits off me.

Maybe watch a few full shows. The thing with compilations is you’ve not had the chance to get to know the characters. Your watching a compilation and not fully understanding the situations. You might feel differently giving the show a proper chance. I generally don’t watch American sitcoms. Especially with the annoying laugh track which has always been OTT but Curb thankfully doesn’t have that.

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American comedy is very hit and miss. Having said that, I did enjoy Frasier when it first started. Never liked Cheers, which of course featured Kelsey Grammer as Frasier.

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Curb your Enthusiasm,is outstanding.

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American comedy is very hit and miss. Having said that, I did enjoy Frasier when it first started. Never liked Cheers, which of course featured Kelsey Grammer as Frasier.
Frasier.is one of the greatest sitcoms ever made. Channel 4 usually show it back to back with Big Bang Theory albeit on two different channels and the difference even the depth of characterisation is night and day.

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I rarely watch series so I googled and found “best funny moments of curb your enthusiasm. I managed to watch the first three sketches. I know humour is very personal but I just found them stupid, silly and annoying. Possibly why I instinctively avoided it.

I find most of the Monty Python office scenes funny, most if not all of The Office (British version) and one of the funniest office scenes ever the vacuum cleaner scene from Mulholland Drive. I just find this Larry fellow a bit lame. He’s maybe a clever chap, I don’t know. So was Robin Williams, and I remember finding the occasional scene of his funny (and so was the occasional scene from Friends or Cheers). But as you say, English humour seems more universal than American humour — and nothing against them, though I can’t think of any American comedians that I personally would pay money to see do stand-up. They just bore the tits off me.
I can't argue with this. I saw The Office first time around and wouldn't sit through it again. I would happily rewatch something like Porridge or Blackadder though. The Office is classed as being a classic now. Oh and Extras borrowed incredibly heavily from Curb Your Enthusiasm, but just tweaked it to make it more about celebrity. Curb is very much love it or hate it; I think that's the reason why nobody really saw it when it was on More4. The comedy lies in the set up to situations rather than one liners or sight gags. With Larry David being a relatable guy who is a millionaire Jew; it was something many sitcoms fail in to do the everyman.

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I can't argue with this. I saw The Office first time around and wouldn't sit through it again. I would happily rewatch something like Porridge or Blackadder though. The Office is classed as being a classic now. Oh and Extras borrowed incredibly heavily from Curb Your Enthusiasm, but just tweaked it to make it more about celebrity.

I didn’t watch Office all the way. What I liked was the relativity new technique. Didn’t fancy either of his later two series. But I think his stand-up is good, as is his Golden Globes speel (at least if you’re not the celebrity on the receiving end!)

Offline billybob69

I rarely watch series so I googled and found “best funny moments of curb your enthusiasm. I managed to watch the first three sketches. I know humour is very personal but I just found them stupid, silly and annoying. Possibly why I instinctively avoided it.
Check out the sketch where he is picking up a hooker -
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Check out the sketch where he is picking up a hooker -
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Having watched that, I find myself agreeing with Marmalade.  What is remotely funny about that?  A bloke picking up a hooker?  The amount she is charging?  No wonder there is no laugh track.  If that is one of his funniest bits, I for one am certainly not watching any more.

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Having watched that, I find myself agreeing with Marmalade.  What is remotely funny about that?  A bloke picking up a hooker?  The amount she is charging?  No wonder there is no laugh track.  If that is one of his funniest bits, I for one am certainly not watching any more.
He's picking up the hooker for his elderly father. The humour is in the culture clash as well as the stereotype of Jews being tight with money and the absurdity of paying a hooker to go to a sports game. As I say it's love it or hate it. I dislike Fleabag, but I'm not the target audience of middle age and middle class women who are feminist-lite. My parents hated The Young Ones. I've met people who didn't find Naked Gun funny because it is wacky. Comedy is specific.

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My parents hated The Young Ones. I've met people who didn't find Naked Gun funny because it is wacky. Comedy is specific.

I didn't like The Young Ones (and I was a teenager then  :D). I do get your point though, comedy is very personal.

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I didn't like The Young Ones (and I was a teenager then  :D). I do get your point though, comedy is very personal.
I liked the young ones and the fact my parents hated it just made it even better  :D

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Does anyone remember Happy Howden?

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I liked the young ones and the fact my parents hated it just made it even better  :D

Some of it hasn't aged well, though when you're a kid then the anarchic/irreverant slapstick is amusing.  Some of the cut-aways (demanded under BBC rules for prime time variety shows) were pointlessly odd, yet some worked.  I suppose it has to be purely viewed in the context of emerging alternative comedy, not least as they were sending up more mainstream comedy.

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Some of it hasn't aged well, though when you're a kid then the anarchic/irreverant slapstick is amusing.  Some of the cut-aways (demanded under BBC rules for prime time variety shows) were pointlessly odd, yet some worked.  I suppose it has to be purely viewed in the context of emerging alternative comedy, not least as they were sending up more mainstream comedy.
Yeah i'm glad I was around when "Alternative" comedy really blossomed and seemed to reach that tipping point where it started becoming mainstream.

The problem is though that what was once cutting edge / alternative is now the norm so perhaps it doesn't excite in the same way  :unknown:

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Yeah i'm glad I was around when "Alternative" comedy really blossomed and seemed to reach that tipping point where it started becoming mainstream.

The problem is though that what was once cutting edge / alternative is now the norm so perhaps it doesn't excite in the same way  :unknown:

That 'set' of comics had any idea they thought of commissioned, a lot of which was of its time but also not aged well/quite forgettable: 'Girls on Top', 'Filthy, Rich and Catflap' etc. 'Happy Families' (written by Ben Elton) though was hugely underrated and is quite hard to watch now (brother taped it onto VHS back then).

'Bottom' was superb but possibly too many episodes made...

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That 'set' of comics had any idea they thought of commissioned, a lot of which was of its time but also not aged well/quite forgettable: 'Girls on Top', 'Filthy, Rich and Catflap' etc. 'Happy Families' (written by Ben Elton) though was hugely underrated and is quite hard to watch now (brother taped it onto VHS back then).

'Bottom' was superb but possibly too many episodes made...
I think it only ran for 18 episodes, 5 live shows. Filthy Rich is mediocre, but the good side of mediocre. Girls on Top pretty forgettable other than a female cast. I've never seen Happy Families. Loads of later stuff which were equally mediocre, but popular: Smack The Pony should have been a lot better given it had some of the best names in comedy writing for it, Hippies was shit, also by the same writers and some of the same cast. A lot of sketch shows around the time were hit and miss: Smith & Jones, Hale & Pace, Big Train, Monkey Dust, Harry Enfield, Dead Ringers, Spitting Image when they hit though everyone remembers the good stuff.

Out of acclaimed sitcom stuff from the 21st century: I thought The Thick of It had some great acting and writing, but it wasn't as funny as was made out, Nighty Night was good, but not a masterpiece, Extras same again, Big Bang Theory forgettable fluff for the most part, Two and a half men only really funny when Charlie Sheen is doing one liners, Rick & Morty - I don't smoke cannabis, Friday Night Dinner - I really like, but don't love it.

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I think it only ran for 18 episodes, 5 live shows. Filthy Rich is mediocre, but the good side of mediocre. Girls on Top pretty forgettable other than a female cast. I've never seen Happy Families. Loads of later stuff which were equally mediocre, but popular: Smack The Pony should have been a lot better given it had some of the best names in comedy writing for it, Hippies was shit, also by the same writers and some of the same cast. A lot of sketch shows around the time were hit and miss: Smith & Jones, Hale & Pace, Big Train, Monkey Dust, Harry Enfield, Dead Ringers, Spitting Image when they hit though everyone remembers the good stuff.

Out of acclaimed sitcom stuff from the 21st century: I thought The Thick of It had some great acting and writing, but it wasn't as funny as was made out, Nighty Night was good, but not a masterpiece, Extras same again, Big Bang Theory forgettable fluff for the most part, Two and a half men only really funny when Charlie Sheen is doing one liners, Rick & Morty - I don't smoke cannabis, Friday Night Dinner - I really like, but don't love it.

Agree all good .... with TTOI getting my prize as the best comedy of the last 20 years.  Are all Scots like Jamie?

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I think it only ran for 18 episodes, 5 live shows. Filthy Rich is mediocre, but the good side of mediocre. Girls on Top pretty forgettable other than a female cast. I've never seen Happy Families. Loads of later stuff which were equally mediocre, but popular: Smack The Pony should have been a lot better given it had some of the best names in comedy writing for it, Hippies was shit, also by the same writers and some of the same cast. A lot of sketch shows around the time were hit and miss: Smith & Jones, Hale & Pace, Big Train, Monkey Dust, Harry Enfield, Dead Ringers, Spitting Image when they hit though everyone remembers the good stuff.

Out of acclaimed sitcom stuff from the 21st century: I thought The Thick of It had some great acting and writing, but it wasn't as funny as was made out, Nighty Night was good, but not a masterpiece, Extras same again, Big Bang Theory forgettable fluff for the most part, Two and a half men only really funny when Charlie Sheen is doing one liners, Rick & Morty - I don't smoke cannabis, Friday Night Dinner - I really like, but don't love it.

It seemed like more.  I remember thinking at the time it'd ran out of steam.

Extras had too much celeb ensemble and seemed quite self-reverential too.

Never ever got Friday Night Dinner (despite the writer's lineage) nor Green Wing and its ilk.

Some of what you described was that Channel 4 milieu, which worked better on Chris Morris products than mainstream indulgences.

Now comedy is the cast of Gogglebox singing the Strictly theme every week.

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It seemed like more.  I remember thinking at the time it'd ran out of steam.

Extras had too much celeb ensemble and seemed quite self-reverential too.



I thought Extras started out quite funny at first but later episodes where the main character had his own comedy show didn't work as it defeated the object of him being a struggling actor who was just an extra  :unknown:. A bit like Peter Kays's Phoenix Nights was funny but the spin off show Max and Paddy wasn't so good.

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“Comedians who annoy the shit out of you”

Baris Jahnsan.

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“To be fair” “100%” and “like I”

When they clearly aren’t.
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I thought Extras started out quite funny at first but later episodes where the main character had his own comedy show didn't work as it defeated the object of him being a struggling actor who was just an extra  :unknown:. A bit like Peter Kays's Phoenix Nights was funny but the spin off show Max and Paddy wasn't so good.

Quite enjoyed Max and Paddy but again it seems very of its time and lacking perhaps the breadth of characters of Phoenix Nights.

Extras was a bit of a cop out, lined up a load of celebs he'd met since The Office and gave them absurd cameos, outsourced a lot of the gags to the female colleague etc.  Apparently the comedy show within a comedy show was a dig at ITV's Hardware, which was a cheesy throwback sitcom and starred Martin Freeman.

Going back to the Comic Strip Presents, not a woman I've ever thought about sexually but Jennifer Saunders (briefly) gets them out in Supergrass and they do look bloody good.

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It seemed like more.  I remember thinking at the time it'd ran out of steam.

Extras had too much celeb ensemble and seemed quite self-reverential too.

Never ever got Friday Night Dinner (despite the writer's lineage) nor Green Wing and its ilk.

Some of what you described was that Channel 4 milieu, which worked better on Chris Morris products than mainstream indulgences.

Now comedy is the cast of Gogglebox singing the Strictly theme every week.
Light entertainment took off. People on BGT who aren't funny or crap chat shows. It's really hard to get fictional narratives produced for TV unless it's crime or based on history.

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Quite enjoyed Max and Paddy but again it seems very of its time and lacking perhaps the breadth of characters of Phoenix Nights.

Extras was a bit of a cop out, lined up a load of celebs he'd met since The Office and gave them absurd cameos, outsourced a lot of the gags to the female colleague etc.  Apparently the comedy show within a comedy show was a dig at ITV's Hardware, which was a cheesy throwback sitcom and starred Martin Freeman.

Going back to the Comic Strip Presents, not a woman I've ever thought about sexually but Jennifer Saunders (briefly) gets them out in Supergrass and they do look bloody good.
Definitely references other things as well like 70s sitcoms loosely as well. Ironically the 70s style sitcom throwbacks like Mrs Browns Boys and Citizen Khan were bigger than Extras at least in the UK.

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Now comedy is the cast of Gogglebox singing the Strictly theme every week.
Think you are confusing light entertainment and comedy.  Things like Gogglebox, BGT, etc are light entertainment, not comedies.

There does seem to be a dearth of new comedies now.  Particularly on ITV - can't find any new comedy whatsoever in primetime over the next week.  Most of those on the BBC, like QI, HIGNFY, Mock the Week, etc. are getting a bit long in the tooth.  Likewise Taskmaster and Last Leg on C4.  Nothing on C5.

I suppose a sit-com is as expensive as a drama to produce, but far riskier in terms of audience numbers.  Game shows are cheaper and less risky.

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Think you are confusing light entertainment and comedy.  Things like Gogglebox, BGT, etc are light entertainment, not comedies.

There does seem to be a dearth of new comedies now.  Particularly on ITV - can't find any new comedy whatsoever in primetime over the next week.  Most of those on the BBC, like QI, HIGNFY, Mock the Week, etc. are getting a bit long in the tooth.  Likewise Taskmaster and Last Leg on C4.  Nothing on C5.

I suppose a sit-com is as expensive as a drama to produce, but far riskier in terms of audience numbers.  Game shows are cheaper and less risky.
A successful sitcom is a license to print money: Only Fools, Friends, Red Dwarf, Big Bang. I think they're one in 100 though.

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Think you are confusing light entertainment and comedy.  Things like Gogglebox, BGT, etc are light entertainment, not comedies.

There does seem to be a dearth of new comedies now.  Particularly on ITV - can't find any new comedy whatsoever in primetime over the next week.  Most of those on the BBC, like QI, HIGNFY, Mock the Week, etc. are getting a bit long in the tooth.  Likewise Taskmaster and Last Leg on C4.  Nothing on C5.

I suppose a sit-com is as expensive as a drama to produce, but far riskier in terms of audience numbers.  Game shows are cheaper and less risky.

I think my point is that the channels aren't investing in new comedy ideas and are just relying on such programmes as substitutes for it.

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Lee Evans - retired thank fuck ... not remotely funny IMO

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I don't know I think a lot of their notoriety comes from petty jealously. The likes of Rob Beckett or Ben Elton whoever wished they had their timing and following. Also, I'm not saying they necessarily great comedians, but people like Jimmy Carr can't imagine the shit holes they had to work in, if you didn't make the crowd laugh you didn't get booed off you risked not working again or getting a beating. And there's the fact you couldn't just be a comedian back the: Chubby a great piano player and OK song writer, Manning probably could have made it as a singer if it wasn't for his face, Davidson a fairly decent actor, Bob Monkhouse a gifted cartoonist, Connolly and Jasper Carrott both folk musicians. Like I say I'm not the target audience for Nish Kumar, but maybe he made it through hard work, but fuck me he ain't funny.

I love Chubby Brown and used to go to Manning's Cub back in the day. But one man started everything in modern comedy. Lenny Bruce. I saw him at The Establishment, the club part owned by Peter Cook. Watching him inspired me in my life for reasons I won't bore you with. I remember going to The Comedy Store in Soho where a lot of great acts started. I also never forget going to a cinema in London where the second film featured someone I'd never heard of. Richard Prior. I literally fell off my seat laughing. Years ago I ended up at dinner in Belfast with Frank Carson. Very funny guy. And even more years ago I had dinner at a table with Harry Secombe and a few others including Bruce Forsyth. Secombe was charming and funny but Forsyth ate with his mouth open - and I was opposite him. A horrible sight.

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Lee Evans - retired thank fuck ... not remotely funny IMO
Yeah never understood how the fuck he made it onto TV  :unknown:

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Yeah never understood how the fuck he made it onto TV  :unknown:

and Hollywood movies ... made a fortune then did one .... definitely a case of right place, right time

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Check out the sketch where he is picking up a hooker -
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How utterly excellent. My last wife was/is black American. Her bro ran hookers in Texas. Those were the days.
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How utterly excellent. My last wife was/is black American. Her bro ran hookers in Texas. Those were the days.

Lots of people on here have a ‘bro’  :cool:

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I fell asleep early and got awoken not long ago and was completely bemused with the offering on telly. How the fuck can Mrs. Browns boys even get within sniffing distance of telly these days?  It's complete and utter shite and I'd rather attempt to swim the channel with no arms than watch more than 10 minutes of that.

It would've been substandard in the 70's, never mind now.

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I fell asleep early and got awoken not long ago and was completely bemused with the offering on telly. How the fuck can Mrs. Browns boys even get within sniffing distance of telly these days?  It's complete and utter shite and I'd rather attempt to swim the channel with no arms than watch more than 10 minutes of that.

It would've been substandard in the 70's, never mind now.

Agreed.

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I fell asleep early and got awoken not long ago and was completely bemused with the offering on telly. How the fuck can Mrs. Browns boys even get within sniffing distance of telly these days?  It's complete and utter shite and I'd rather attempt to swim the channel with no arms than watch more than 10 minutes of that.

It would've been substandard in the 70's, never mind now.

I am shocker & stunned that a show with such a title has been allowed.

In fact I am surprised if anyone with the surname “brown” hasn’t already changed it by deed poll. Fucking blackfishing!

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Is it acceptable to tell a joke involving two n-words? For instance, I wouldn’t say the n-word, just replace it with something more neutral like ‘gone-fishing’. …

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Just realised I’d have to use the word ‘black’ as well so maybe I could replace that with the word ‘bingo’. What do you think? For historical interest of course….  :P

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No-one has raised a voice against it so I’ll give it a go. It’s a very old one by Happy Howden who got banned from a lot of places but still brought the house down. When I think about it in today’s climate it could very well be anti-racist as it pokes fun at the impenetrable self-righteousness of the white hoi polloi.

It goes like this…




One day in court a driver was in the dock for a road traffic offence in which two coloured gentlemen had unfortunately been injured.

“Now just before I pass sentence” barked the judge, “I’d like you to tell me in your own words what really happened.”

“Well, Your Honour”, he replied, “it was like this. I was motoring along at a steady 30 miles an hour when I spotted these two coloured gentlemen walking on the pavement, and as I approached one of them must slipped near the curb and, catching hold of the other one, brought them to the edge of the kerb, and so somehow I must have clipped them and I’m awfully sorry to say but one of them went through the windscreen and the other one ended up in a field.”

“Come, come”, roared the judge. You’ll have to do better than that! Now tell me what really happened.”

“O.K.” He said. I was maybe doing closer to 50, I must admit, and I saw these two gone-fishings ahead of me and as I approached they kind of stepped off the pavement onto the road. Then one went through the windscreen and the other one ended up in a field.”

“Come, come”, bellowed the judge! “You’ll have to do better than that!! What honestly happened??”

“Fair enough, your Lordship. It was like this. I was doing about 70 when I saw these two bingo bastards in the distance. So I put my foot to the floor, mounted the pavement, chased them round the block, and finally hit ‘em. And one went through the windscreen and the other one ended up in a field.”

“That’s better!” smiled the judge. “I’ve got the picture. Now I shall pass sentence. I fine the first one £50 for breaking and entering and the second one £100 for leaving the scene of the crime!”



Now whether you read that as racist or anti-racist, I think it highlights something. We don’t eradicate racism just by changing the words. People of colour, by whatever name, will often get a raw deal. People like to scapegoat and if there’s a minority with which they have no personal bonds of normal love and affection then that minority may be targeted and treated as less worthy of equal love, kindness and respect. When we build friendships we see beyond skin colour, sexual preference and ethnicity. We forgive shortcomings. And if we don’t, we just go about pretending that we see everybody through an equal lens. In the above example, everybody assumed the driver and the judge were white.

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I fell asleep early and got awoken not long ago and was completely bemused with the offering on telly. How the fuck can Mrs. Browns boys even get within sniffing distance of telly these days?  It's complete and utter shite and I'd rather attempt to swim the channel with no arms than watch more than 10 minutes of that.

It would've been substandard in the 70's, never mind now.

Yes it's beyond me and worse than that lots seem to find it funny.
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I love Chubby Brown and used to go to Manning's Cub back in the day. But one man started everything in modern comedy. Lenny Bruce. I saw him at The Establishment, the club part owned by Peter Cook. Watching him inspired me in my life for reasons I won't bore you with. I remember going to The Comedy Store in Soho where a lot of great acts started. I also never forget going to a cinema in London where the second film featured someone I'd never heard of. Richard Prior. I literally fell off my seat laughing. Years ago I ended up at dinner in Belfast with Frank Carson. Very funny guy. And even more years ago I had dinner at a table with Harry Secombe and a few others including Bruce Forsyth. Secombe was charming and funny but Forsyth ate with his mouth open - and I was opposite him. A horrible sight.
Richard Pryor inspired many comedians to go into comedy. One I know of is Sean Hughes. I honestly believe Lenny Bruce is important to comedy, but I don't think he's ever been funny; reading out swear words of transcripts from his court case might have been shocking, but is it comedy or theatre?

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Lee Evans - retired thank fuck ... not remotely funny IMO
Used to like him back in the day. We are talking early 90s. The pool of comedians seemed much smaller, but I also liked Izzard when he started. I think Evans is an excellent physical comedian, not necessarily funny, but what I admire is he is a genuine working class comedian who could sell out Wembley Stadium especially in the 90s when most comedians were middle class red brick university leavers.

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I think my point is that the channels aren't investing in new comedy ideas and are just relying on such programmes as substitutes for it.
Even the game shows are shit and hosted by charmless comedians. Katharine Ryan? Tom Allen? Fair enough decades ago the game shows were shit, but I used to watch anything with Bob Monkhouse on just because he had excellent timing. I honestly thought in the 00s TV was going to get better and what happens the same old rehashed shit becomes the most popular TV - BGT is just Opportunity Knocks, Blind Date revivals with different names, as mentioned Mrs Brown Boys less funny than are you being served? That said drama has generally improved, but everything else got worse especially "factual" were they are either scripted or talk down to the audience - I don't need a recap every ten minutes or shows which drag out a 15 minute programme to an hour - Undateables, Gogglebox, Kitchen Nightmares, Come Dine With Me - though I do like the latter two.

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Don't know if he's already been mentioned on this thread, but Richard Ayoade, for me, is the most supercilious, irritating and unfunny twat in the history of twats.

Offline Blackpool Rock

Don't know if he's already been mentioned on this thread, but Richard Ayoade, for me, is the most supercilious, irritating and unfunny twat in the history of twats.
Don't know but good call  :thumbsup: