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mack10

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I am new to this site and cant believe some of the stuff I am reading! I have been punting for over 12 years and have never been caught or raised suspicions to any of my friends, family or ex girlfriends. So would just like to share some hints and tips and please add any that you may have.

1. 2nd mobile phone

I have never used my own mobile phone to call escorts. Especially the fact that most of them dont accept private number calls. So buy a cheap "pay as you go", dont register it and keep it somewhere safe. Always delete the texts and call register. If you need to store the escorts number - dont - just get it from the net whenever you need it.

2. Internet history

Always delete your internet history or set it on automatic delete after the browser is shut.  Do this for both your PC and smartphone. Try to memorise the site names instead of saving them in your favourites.

3. Fake name

Never tell escorts your real name. Always use a fake name. That way if you ever bump into them on the street (i know most are discreet) but some might put you right in it and call out your name. If they call out a fake name you can easily say sorry I think you have the wrong person and atleast try to get away with it. Plus the fact that there are so many social media sites nowadays nothing is safe anymore from the time somebody knows your real name.

4. Parking your car for an in-call

This doesnt really matter if you are going for an in-call far away from where you live or somewhere where nobody knows you. But if punting in your local area and driving - never park your car directly where the escort lives. Try to park somewhere down the road and walk down. That way nobody can say "I saw your car outside that escorts house!". I cant state about out-calls as I have only ever invited an escort back to mine once and that was 12 years ago!

5. Alibi

When going on a punt try and use an alibi for the duration of time that you have gone. That way if your girlfriend/wife tries to call your mobile phone while your on a punt atleast you will have some kind of excuse for why you couldnt answer the phone.

6. General check of lipstick on skin, perfume and wondering hairs on your clothes/body

When leaving a punt always check your lips and skin for any lipstick marks. Spray aftershave if you have to to cover up any perfume smells. Also brush down clothes and body for any wondering hairs. Had plenty of times when I have picked out a long hair from my boxers!

7. Filming

If you ever film yourself while on a punt try and back it up somewhere straight afterwards - USB, CD-Rom, HDD etc. Then delete the original from your phone.

ALSO - be very careful that the escorts dont film you without your consent. I had two occasions when the escort kept fiddling with her laptop saying she was looking for a song. 10 mins later while she was sucking me off she started to adjust the position of her webcam. I went nuts! Found out that she was secretly recording our session for her to upload to her website to advertise herself! So be aware of any webcams, laptops etc.

8. Valuable items

Try to take the least number of personal items to a punt. Remember its not all about the escorts safety but also our own. So things like expensive watches, rings, chains, wallet - try to minimise what you take. That way you have less chance of losing them and less chance of them being stolen.

9. Basic personal discretion

I personally have never told anybody about punting, even my friends. Its a big secret in my life and I would always keep it that way. You never can tell who you can trust with secret information about your life.

I hope this information has helped those who need it, but most of it is common sense. If you have any other hints and tips please feel free to add!

Offline Freddybigstuff1983

All good ideas.

I would add to 7, don't even store pics/vids on a USB. Create a google account in your punting name and save stuff to google docs.

Offline CoolTiger

Add...... Use a Punting email address, not a personal or a work one!!!

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Thank you for this, as someone who is new to punting ( 2 punts so far) this information is great.

Offline CoolTiger

For No. 4, also be careful if driving to a distant or an unfamiliar location, in terms of using a Sat Nav (which will then contain history of places you've been to) or being caught on a Speed Camera in that location,, and then having to explain why you were there!!

Offline CoolTiger

If incall appt., do not take any your wallet with you (bank cards, credit cards, or any ID document). If you do, and need to use shower, make sure you take your belongings with you to the shower room. Take sufficient cash for the punt, plus any extras should you plan to extend your stay, or even tip (yes, I do).

I know of a member on here who had some money and a bank card taken from his belongings whilst on a 4th visit to the same WG. He didn't discover til he got home, so could never prove it. Also, he didn't think she was a habitual thief, perhaps more of an opportunist.

Given recent events, use a different AW user name to your nick on here, and if you submit any FRs, try and amend/alter date and times of appt, so that it is not easy for a WG to connect your nick to the AW username and/or when you saw her.

Main thing is.... Be alert and use common sense.

Offline CBPaul

Excellent information and thanks for putting the effort into it.

I would add...

2. Don't use a smart phone to look for escorts. If you have a personal PC / Laptop then stick to that.

4. Use Google street view to check out the area for an incall, you can then be prepared for parking restrictions or it being a generally shite area. If you need to use sat nav then how about printing a couple of maps from Google while you are at it, no trace then.

Offline monkeybucket

That last one is for me.. never thought of that....i shall now be called...something different..

Offline CoolTiger

Excellent information and thanks for putting the effort into it.

I would add...

2. Don't use a smart phone to look for escorts. If you have a personal PC / Laptop then stick to that.

4. Use Google street view to check out the area for an incall, you can then be prepared for parking restrictions or it being a generally shite area. If you need to use sat nav then how about printing a couple of maps from Google while you are at it, no trace then.

From personal experience.... Ensure the printouts are then destroyed immediately after the punt, and not left in the car!! 

Also, ensure that any receipts for wine, chocolates bought, etc are not kept on you and binned in the supermarket you bought the goods from!!

Offline CoolTiger

That last one is for me.. never thought of that....i shall now be called...something different..

Alternatively, change your nic on AW to "something different".

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I am new to this site and cant believe some of the stuff I am reading! I have been punting for over 12 years and have never been caught or raised suspicions to any of my friends, family or ex girlfriends. So would just like to share some hints and tips and please add any that you may have.

1. 2nd mobile phone

I have never used my own mobile phone to call escorts. Especially the fact that most of them dont accept private number calls. So buy a cheap "pay as you go", dont register it and keep it somewhere safe. Always delete the texts and call register. If you need to store the escorts number - dont - just get it from the net whenever you need it.

2. Internet history

Always delete your internet history or set it on automatic delete after the browser is shut.  Do this for both your PC and smartphone. Try to memorise the site names instead of saving them in your favourites.

3. Fake name

Never tell escorts your real name. Always use a fake name. That way if you ever bump into them on the street (i know most are discreet) but some might put you right in it and call out your name. If they call out a fake name you can easily say sorry I think you have the wrong person and atleast try to get away with it. Plus the fact that there are so many social media sites nowadays nothing is safe anymore from the time somebody knows your real name.

4. Parking your car for an in-call

This doesnt really matter if you are going for an in-call far away from where you live or somewhere where nobody knows you. But if punting in your local area and driving - never park your car directly where the escort lives. Try to park somewhere down the road and walk down. That way nobody can say "I saw your car outside that escorts house!". I cant state about out-calls as I have only ever invited an escort back to mine once and that was 12 years ago!

5. Alibi

When going on a punt try and use an alibi for the duration of time that you have gone. That way if your girlfriend/wife tries to call your mobile phone while your on a punt atleast you will have some kind of excuse for why you couldnt answer the phone.

6. General check of lipstick on skin, perfume and wondering hairs on your clothes/body

When leaving a punt always check your lips and skin for any lipstick marks. Spray aftershave if you have to to cover up any perfume smells. Also brush down clothes and body for any wondering hairs. Had plenty of times when I have picked out a long hair from my boxers!

7. Filming

If you ever film yourself while on a punt try and back it up somewhere straight afterwards - USB, CD-Rom, HDD etc. Then delete the original from your phone.

ALSO - be very careful that the escorts dont film you without your consent. I had two occasions when the escort kept fiddling with her laptop saying she was looking for a song. 10 mins later while she was sucking me off she started to adjust the position of her webcam. I went nuts! Found out that she was secretly recording our session for her to upload to her website to advertise herself! So be aware of any webcams, laptops etc.

8. Valuable items

Try to take the least number of personal items to a punt. Remember its not all about the escorts safety but also our own. So things like expensive watches, rings, chains, wallet - try to minimise what you take. That way you have less chance of losing them and less chance of them being stolen.

9. Basic personal discretion

I personally have never told anybody about punting, even my friends. Its a big secret in my life and I would always keep it that way. You never can tell who you can trust with secret information about your life.

I hope this information has helped those who need it, but most of it is common sense. If you have any other hints and tips please feel free to add!

Good list, its all been posted before including by me but its always good to see such things getting posted up on a regular basis as we have new punters joining all the time of course. And good additional info posted by others since your post.

Offline CBPaul

From personal experience.... Ensure the printouts are then destroyed immediately after the punt, and not left in the car!! 


Yes, good addition as they can be easily forgotten. I tend to leave them on the drivers seat or in the footwell so I can't miss them. Alternatively take them out of the car when you arrive if there is a bin nearby.

Don't print the whole thing showing a route tracing back to the point you started from either.

Offline CBPaul

Point 8.

Don't cut down too far, worst case scenario is getting stopped by the police and having no id leads to a world of shit. May also need to pay for something on route.

Never leave clothes in the room with a prossie when taking a shower either.

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If incall appt., do not take any your wallet with you (bank cards, credit cards, or any ID document). If you do, and need to use shower, make sure you take your belongings with you to the shower room. Take sufficient cash for the punt, plus any extras should you plan to extend your stay, or even tip (yes, I do).

I know of a member on here who had some money and a bank card taken from his belongings whilst on a 4th visit to the same WG. He didn't discover til he got home, so could never prove it. Also, he didn't think she was a habitual thief, perhaps more of an opportunist.

Given recent events, use a different AW user name to your nick on here, and if you submit any FRs, try and amend/alter date and times of appt, so that it is not easy for a WG to connect your nick to the AW username and/or when you saw her.

Main thing is.... Be alert and use common sense.

I hope if that punter is certain it was the WG that stole from him that he named and shamed her on here, i would want to know about thieves so as to avoid them.

Great point about amending appointment times and dates, i would advise not giving any time or date, just say i punted with the WG recently. The actual time and date doesnt matter as long as it was a recent punt in my view, all assuming its true obviously. ;)

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now changed aw name to my favourite crime fighting duo!

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Assuming a partner would find it believable i would advise taking your own body spray to a punt and keep it in the car telling your partner its to keep the car smelling nice.

I try not to touch WGs until i am naked as i dont want hairs and/or perfume to get on my clothes. I do ask WGs not to wear perfume but they may of done so at the request of the previous punter and even after a shower the smell can still linger, so a careful sniff of your clothes post-punt is essential in my view.

A punting mate got caught out by glitter stuck to his back despite having taken two showers since the punt. Now glitter isnt used like it used to be years ago by WGs but it shows you can think you have been very careful but left some evidence.

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If incall appt., do not take any your wallet with you (bank cards, credit cards, or any ID document). If you do, and need to use shower, make sure you take your belongings with you to the shower room. Take sufficient cash for the punt, plus any extras should you plan to extend your stay, or even tip (yes, I do).

I know of a member on here who had some money and a bank card taken from his belongings whilst on a 4th visit to the same WG. He didn't discover til he got home, so could never prove it. Also, he didn't think she was a habitual thief, perhaps more of an opportunist.

Given recent events, use a different AW user name to your nick on here, and if you submit any FRs, try and amend/alter date and times of appt, so that it is not easy for a WG to connect your nick to the AW username and/or when you saw her.

Main thing is.... Be alert and use common sense.

Good point about the AW user name. You wouldn't believe the number of guys whose AW user name is also used for other pastimes / sites on the web, complete with photos, personal data  :dash:Not just case of Big Knob John 69 either.

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Dont agree with 9,obviously not with all and sundry,but i have a couple of mates who i enjoy bantering with about punting.

I agree with most of the rest but do feel that there is a line where it almost becomes more aggravation than its worth...

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4. Parking your car for an in-call

This doesnt really matter if you are going for an in-call far away from where you live or somewhere where nobody knows you. But if punting in your local area and driving - never park your car directly where the escort lives. Try to park somewhere down the road and walk down. That way nobody can say "I saw your car outside that escorts house!". I cant state about out-calls as I have only ever invited an escort back to mine once and that was 12 years ago!
I have heard of prossies writing down numbers. Don't park where the prossie tells you is my advice.

Offline CBPaul

I have heard of prossies writing down numbers. Don't park where the prossie tells you is my advice.

Absolutely right - also beware of nosey neighbours if parking close to the venue. Have seen one or two curtains twitch and it can be unsettling when trying to remain incognito.

Offline monkeybucket

good plan..on advise i read on here, i always turn up 30mins before appointment to scout around for somewhere else to park.

Offline CoolTiger

I hope if that punter is certain it was the WG that stole from him that he named and shamed her on here, i would want to know about thieves so as to avoid them.


He was certain it was definitely the girl. Both the member and the girl have long gone, so cannot name and shame her.

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Assuming a partner would find it believable i would advise taking your own body spray to a punt and keep it in the car telling your partner its to keep the car smelling nice.

I try not to touch WGs until i am naked as i dont want hairs and/or perfume to get on my clothes. I do ask WGs not to wear perfume but they may of done so at the request of the previous punter and even after a shower the smell can still linger, so a careful sniff of your clothes post-punt is essential in my view.

A punting mate got caught out by glitter stuck to his back despite having taken two showers since the punt. Now glitter isnt used like it used to be years ago by WGs but it shows you can think you have been very careful but left some evidence.

In extreme cases where showers, etc not working, after a punt stop and fill up fuel, and accidentally "spill" a few drops of petrol/diesel over your hands/clothes to hide any lingering perfume smell. That smell will mask anything and upon returning home, your OH will make you throw all your clothes in the laundry bin and insist you get a shower.

Offline CoolTiger

now changed aw name to my favourite crime fighting duo!

Now we know you are calling yourself Dempsey and Makepeace!!  :D

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Assuming a partner would find it believable i would advise taking your own body spray to a punt and keep it in the car telling your partner its to keep the car smelling nice.

Some guys keep body spray, mouth wash, mints etc. in the car as a normal routine, so this becomes handy when returning from punts.

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In extreme cases where showers, etc not working, after a punt stop and fill up fuel, and accidentally "spill" a few drops of petrol/diesel over your hands/clothes to hide any lingering perfume smell. That smell will mask anything and upon returning home, your OH will make you throw all your clothes in the laundry bin and insist you get a shower.

Yep, that is great advice, i hope punters are taking note. ;)

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Dont agree with 9,obviously not with all and sundry,but i have a couple of mates who i enjoy bantering with about punting.

I agree with most of the rest but do feel that there is a line where it almost becomes more aggravation than its worth...

It's down to individual punters, but some comments here mention about regret, especially where they have then been judged on that, or if they then fall out with the so-called friend.

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It's down to individual punters, but some comments here mention about regret, especially where they have then been judged on that, or if they then fall out with the so-called friend.

I very nearly told a very good friend years ago, very lucky for me i didnt as a while later we had a terminal falling out and he would of certainly have told my then partner out of spite.

Offline monkeybucket

Now we know you are calling yourself Dempsey and Makepeace!!  :D

Rumbled!

Offline Luke

Point 7 is really scary if she is secretly recording via her laptop, I have been a little suspicious of that but initially dint know how to ask the Wg to shut the laptop without sounding rude, nowadays I do make it a point to politely ask her to switch it off or turn it away, it's important for all punters to be aware of this,

Excellent post though,
« Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 04:31:52 pm by Luke »

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Thanks for all the positive posts guys - and thanks for all the new ideas which I missed out lol! They all sound great.

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Point 7 is really scary if she is secretly recording via her laptop, I have been a little suspicious of that but initially dint know how to ask the Wg to shut the laptop without sounding rude, nowadays I do make it a point to politely ask her to switch it off or turn it away, it's important for all punters to be aware of this,

Excellent post though,

Luke - yes it was scary mate. I was very lucky that I questioned them about it and got them to delete the recordings. Who knows what porn sites I could of ended up on and somebody I know finding out lol! If asking them to shut the laptop I would suggest maybe saying the light from the screen is to bright or something.

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It's down to individual punters, but some comments here mention about regret, especially where they have then been judged on that, or if they then fall out with the so-called friend.

These two mates of mine are both married and punters like me,wouldnt tell any other mates unless i was sure they were also into the scene.My best man is a straight down the line bloke who has never been one for chasing birds,hes now married and im certain he wouldnt punt or approve,as such i woyldnt dream of telling him for instance

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If your attached, the timing of the punt is critical, you punt and then go home. Youre flushed, and looking shifty, and you must be very about the smell on you, both on your clothes and her fanny smell on ya face assuming you didnt shower prior to leaving, i always kept wet wipes in me car to clean my mush properly after the punt, the times ive had the smell of her pussy up my nose !

Just be very careful about clothes, smell and youre persona, women are fucking great at picking up on it

Never get complacent, ya cheating

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Good thread, I'll add mine in no particular order:

1.  Defense in depth Always assume that every countermeasure you take will be breached - i.e. your phone will be found, your computer unlocked etc. etc.  Then plan around that.  Add additional layers of security like encryption, password protection, clearing stuff down after a punt. This massively reduces the chance of a single mistake outing you.
2. Use a staging area. Don't go directly from home from the punt.  Have somewhere else you go first.  It might be a pub, a mcdonalds, a service station or whatever.  It will give you a chance to calm yourself down, and make sure you've cleaned up and followed any security procedures like clearing phone down in place.  Ideally, you should go to this location sometimes when you're not punting, so it just become a routine place that you go, and reduces suspicion.
3. Reality check - every month or so, google 'my husband/boyfriend sees prostitutes' and check out threads on places like not allowed.  This will give you information as to how people get caught, and also give you a splash of cold water to the face.  The danger of hanging around sites like UKP is that it normalises what you're doing.  That can lead you to do let your guard down.  What you're doing is not 'normal', not generally socially acceptable, and if you get found out, will cause you a whole  fucking world of trouble.  You need to keep that fear of getting caught, because fear keeps you alive.
4. Create security habits Mentally go through everything you do that could get you caught, and work out the steps you need to take to reduce the risk. Then make sure you do it every time, until it becomes second nature.  For example - always locking your computer. Always closing your browser.  Always clearing your phone down. If you have to remember to do this stuff, one day you'll forget, then you're dead.  It also reduces the risk of getting caught due to getting lazy, because habits are easy to keep doing, whereas remembering to do stuff isn't.
5. Don't give yourself away online  As several members here have found to their cost, it's surprisingly easy for a determined adversary to triangulate different pieces of data to identify you. There might be millions of men in South London, but if someone works out you from your posts you are aged 43, have a poodle, drive a Saab, work in sales, are able to post to a punting site at 11AM and like Jack Daniels, they probably have a suspect list of less than 20. If you post that your wife is in her 41 and still in good shape as well, you've created a fingerprint.  Post some misinformation now and again, and keep things vague.
6. There is no rule 6.
7. Username, passwords and emails Never, ever, ever reuse usernames or passwords between site, and ffs don't make your passwords easy to get.  I saw one bloke who got nailed when his missus tried his email address along with his car reg on AW.  She got in, found a hotlist and some feedback. Try explaining your way out of that one. Additionally, if you ever use a regular email account for punting, you need your head examining.
8. Admin access to computers If someone has admin access to your computer or other device, they can install monitoring software.  Treat any computer where the admin account might not be secure as compromised.  A particularly savvy adversary may be able to monitor you without admin access, just by being left alone with the machine for 30 mins.  Use an encrypted USB stick with firefox portable or similar on if you think that might be an issue.
9. Always treat security as your first priority  If something happens during your punt preparations which could jeopardise security, abandon the punt. You can always punt another day as long as you don't get busted. If you catch yourself doing something which is a risk (you realise you've left a browser logged into AW, you find a receipt in your pocket), review your procedures to make sure it can't happen again. It is through these small lapses that people get caught..  Receipts in pockets, stray hairs, text messages.  Once suspicion is aroused, it is a lot more likely more evidence will be found.
10. If confronted: deny, deny, deny, and stop completely (at least until the heat has died down)  If you've ever had dealings with the police trying to nail something on you, you'll know that they will try to trick you into making a confession by claiming they already know you are guilty.  A lot of coppers get arrests this way, because it's psychologically easier to confess than hold out. Smart women will do the same.  In both cases, unless they confront you with hard evidence, they is a good chance they are bluffing you.  Sweat it out.  If you are busted, an initial denial isn't going to make things any worse than they already are.
11. Don't out specific tips in public  I've seen a couple of people here share info about certain apps which are useful. The problem with that is that they are feeding information to the other side.  not allowed read these boards, and will immediately be looking on their OH's phone for those apps. They quickly become a liability.  Share it via PM instead.

Am sure there are others but I'm bored of writing now. :)









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Good thread, I'll add mine in no particular order:

1.  Defense in depth Always assume that every countermeasure you take will be breached - i.e. your phone will be found, your computer unlocked etc. etc.  Then plan around that.  Add additional layers of security like encryption, password protection, clearing stuff down after a punt. This massively reduces the chance of a single mistake outing you.
2. Use a staging area. Don't go directly from home from the punt.  Have somewhere else you go first.  It might be a pub, a mcdonalds, a service station or whatever.  It will give you a chance to calm yourself down, and make sure you've cleaned up and followed any security procedures like clearing phone down in place.  Ideally, you should go to this location sometimes when you're not punting, so it just become a routine place that you go, and reduces suspicion.
3. Reality check - every month or so, google 'my husband/boyfriend sees prostitutes' and check out threads on places like not allowed.  This will give you information as to how people get caught, and also give you a splash of cold water to the face.  The danger of hanging around sites like UKP is that it normalises what you're doing.  That can lead you to do let your guard down.  What you're doing is not 'normal', not generally socially acceptable, and if you get found out, will cause you a whole  fucking world of trouble.  You need to keep that fear of getting caught, because fear keeps you alive.
4. Create security habits Mentally go through everything you do that could get you caught, and work out the steps you need to take to reduce the risk. Then make sure you do it every time, until it becomes second nature.  For example - always locking your computer. Always closing your browser.  Always clearing your phone down. If you have to remember to do this stuff, one day you'll forget, then you're dead.  It also reduces the risk of getting caught due to getting lazy, because habits are easy to keep doing, whereas remembering to do stuff isn't.
5. Don't give yourself away online  As several members here have found to their cost, it's surprisingly easy for a determined adversary to triangulate different pieces of data to identify you. There might be millions of men in South London, but if someone works out you from your posts you are aged 43, have a poodle, drive a Saab, work in sales, are able to post to a punting site at 11AM and like Jack Daniels, they probably have a suspect list of less than 20. If you post that your wife is in her 41 and still in good shape as well, you've created a fingerprint.  Post some misinformation now and again, and keep things vague.
6. There is no rule 6.
7. Username, passwords and emails Never, ever, ever reuse usernames or passwords between site, and ffs don't make your passwords easy to get.  I saw one bloke who got nailed when his missus tried his email address along with his car reg on AW.  She got in, found a hotlist and some feedback. Try explaining your way out of that one. Additionally, if you ever use a regular email account for punting, you need your head examining.
8. Admin access to computers If someone has admin access to your computer or other device, they can install monitoring software.  Treat any computer where the admin account might not be secure as compromised.  A particularly savvy adversary may be able to monitor you without admin access, just by being left alone with the machine for 30 mins.  Use an encrypted USB stick with firefox portable or similar on if you think that might be an issue.
9. Always treat security as your first priority  If something happens during your punt preparations which could jeopardise security, abandon the punt. You can always punt another day as long as you don't get busted. If you catch yourself doing something which is a risk (you realise you've left a browser logged into AW, you find a receipt in your pocket), review your procedures to make sure it can't happen again. It is through these small lapses that people get caught..  Receipts in pockets, stray hairs, text messages.  Once suspicion is aroused, it is a lot more likely more evidence will be found.
10. If confronted: deny, deny, deny, and stop completely (at least until the heat has died down)  If you've ever had dealings with the police trying to nail something on you, you'll know that they will try to trick you into making a confession by claiming they already know you are guilty.  A lot of coppers get arrests this way, because it's psychologically easier to confess than hold out. Smart women will do the same.  In both cases, unless they confront you with hard evidence, they is a good chance they are bluffing you.  Sweat it out.  If you are busted, an initial denial isn't going to make things any worse than they already are.
11. Don't out specific tips in public  I've seen a couple of people here share info about certain apps which are useful. The problem with that is that they are feeding information to the other side.  not allowed read these boards, and will immediately be looking on their OH's phone for those apps. They quickly become a liability.  Share it via PM instead.

Am sure there are others but I'm bored of writing now. :)



Gold dust and food for thought

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Thanks guys your advice is top !!!

but hey I got divorced last year because she said I was useless she never even knew about what I was doing with WGs  :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:.

I divyied up my change and now live on my own in a small flat  :scare:

whiterussian

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Chin up Rusty, a small flat is better than a lot of scenarios.  At least you won't let it happen again!
We've all been stiffed one way or another, but it takes a braver man to admit it :thumbsup:

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Good thread, I'll add mine in no particular order:

1.  Defense in depth Always assume that every countermeasure you take will be breached - i.e. your phone will be found, your computer unlocked etc. etc.  Then plan around that.  Add additional layers of security like encryption, password protection, clearing stuff down after a punt. This massively reduces the chance of a single mistake outing you.
2. Use a staging area. Don't go directly from home from the punt.  Have somewhere else you go first.  It might be a pub, a mcdonalds, a service station or whatever.  It will give you a chance to calm yourself down, and make sure you've cleaned up and followed any security procedures like clearing phone down in place.  Ideally, you should go to this location sometimes when you're not punting, so it just become a routine place that you go, and reduces suspicion.
3. Reality check - every month or so, google 'my husband/boyfriend sees prostitutes' and check out threads on places like not allowed.  This will give you information as to how people get caught, and also give you a splash of cold water to the face.  The danger of hanging around sites like UKP is that it normalises what you're doing.  That can lead you to do let your guard down.  What you're doing is not 'normal', not generally socially acceptable, and if you get found out, will cause you a whole  fucking world of trouble.  You need to keep that fear of getting caught, because fear keeps you alive.
4. Create security habits Mentally go through everything you do that could get you caught, and work out the steps you need to take to reduce the risk. Then make sure you do it every time, until it becomes second nature.  For example - always locking your computer. Always closing your browser.  Always clearing your phone down. If you have to remember to do this stuff, one day you'll forget, then you're dead.  It also reduces the risk of getting caught due to getting lazy, because habits are easy to keep doing, whereas remembering to do stuff isn't.
5. Don't give yourself away online  As several members here have found to their cost, it's surprisingly easy for a determined adversary to triangulate different pieces of data to identify you. There might be millions of men in South London, but if someone works out you from your posts you are aged 43, have a poodle, drive a Saab, work in sales, are able to post to a punting site at 11AM and like Jack Daniels, they probably have a suspect list of less than 20. If you post that your wife is in her 41 and still in good shape as well, you've created a fingerprint.  Post some misinformation now and again, and keep things vague.
6. There is no rule 6.
7. Username, passwords and emails Never, ever, ever reuse usernames or passwords between site, and ffs don't make your passwords easy to get.  I saw one bloke who got nailed when his missus tried his email address along with his car reg on AW.  She got in, found a hotlist and some feedback. Try explaining your way out of that one. Additionally, if you ever use a regular email account for punting, you need your head examining.
8. Admin access to computers If someone has admin access to your computer or other device, they can install monitoring software.  Treat any computer where the admin account might not be secure as compromised.  A particularly savvy adversary may be able to monitor you without admin access, just by being left alone with the machine for 30 mins.  Use an encrypted USB stick with firefox portable or similar on if you think that might be an issue.
9. Always treat security as your first priority  If something happens during your punt preparations which could jeopardise security, abandon the punt. You can always punt another day as long as you don't get busted. If you catch yourself doing something which is a risk (you realise you've left a browser logged into AW, you find a receipt in your pocket), review your procedures to make sure it can't happen again. It is through these small lapses that people get caught..  Receipts in pockets, stray hairs, text messages.  Once suspicion is aroused, it is a lot more likely more evidence will be found.
10. If confronted: deny, deny, deny, and stop completely (at least until the heat has died down)  If you've ever had dealings with the police trying to nail something on you, you'll know that they will try to trick you into making a confession by claiming they already know you are guilty.  A lot of coppers get arrests this way, because it's psychologically easier to confess than hold out. Smart women will do the same.  In both cases, unless they confront you with hard evidence, they is a good chance they are bluffing you.  Sweat it out.  If you are busted, an initial denial isn't going to make things any worse than they already are.
11. Don't out specific tips in public  I've seen a couple of people here share info about certain apps which are useful. The problem with that is that they are feeding information to the other side.  not allowed read these boards, and will immediately be looking on their OH's phone for those apps. They quickly become a liability.  Share it via PM instead.

Am sure there are others but I'm bored of writing now. :)

Some excellent advice there. :thumbsup:

But of course you have missed the big one...

STAY SINGLE and you are free to do whatever you want whenever and are answerable to no one. Especially an ageing nagging hag  :scare:

Kick the old bird to the kerb, you will not believe the joy that lies ahead  :yahoo:


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Some excellent advice there. :thumbsup:

But of course you have missed the big one...

STAY SINGLE and you are free to do whatever you want whenever and are answerable to no one. Especially an ageing nagging hag  :scare:

Kick the old bird to the kerb, you will not believe the joy that lies ahead  :yahoo:

 :D  Depends on your circumstance.  Sex & affection aside, she looks after the house and kids well, has a decent income, and leaves me alone to get on with my life without asking questions about where I've been / what I'm up to. I have considered getting divorced a few times, but the drawbacks outweigh the benefits.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2014, 11:16:43 am by jcdmj12 »

Offline mr-oraltastic

Advice for Getting rid of smells. Take up Swimming on your way home from work on a regular basis, then after a punt you can go for a quick dip and the smell from the chlorine in the pool will mask any unwanted smells and also gives you opportunity for a 2nd post shag shower. You need only go in pool for 2 mins to fully immerse yourself and gain the benefits

Offline drwho

No one's mentioned CASH yet...
Quite an important part of our world, and unless your job pays cash in hand can be traceable on bank statements for months afterwards.

I try to squirrel away what I can as the opportunities arise, to avoid large withdrawals.
Cashback at the supermarket is another good way to stash a bit more away for future punts.
I've tried hiding cash in various places, but have settled on an inner pocket of my wallet - that way it's kept safe and can be used for more 'legit' purposes in an emergency.

I sometimes access a semi dormant current account (last time to go to LMP) I can top it up afterwards, though there's still the risk of this being discovered unless you do this by cash at a branch, but that defeats the object a little bit.

Offline CBPaul

No one's mentioned CASH yet...
Quite an important part of our world, and unless your job pays cash in hand can be traceable on bank statements for months afterwards.

I try to squirrel away what I can as the opportunities arise, to avoid large withdrawals.
Cashback at the supermarket is another good way to stash a bit more away for future punts.
I've tried hiding cash in various places, but have settled on an inner pocket of my wallet - that way it's kept safe and can be used for more 'legit' purposes in an emergency.

I sometimes access a semi dormant current account (last time to go to LMP) I can top it up afterwards, though there's still the risk of this being discovered unless you do this by cash at a branch, but that defeats the object a little bit.

Very good points. I do exactly the same, always get cash back when I have the opportunity and if I'm withdrawing cash for a legit reason I always draw a little extra.

Offline CoolTiger

Advice for Getting rid of smells. Take up Swimming on your way home from work on a regular basis, then after a punt you can go for a quick dip and the smell from the chlorine in the pool will mask any unwanted smells and also gives you opportunity for a 2nd post shag shower. You need only go in pool for 2 mins to fully immerse yourself and gain the benefits


Gym subs could easily be £30~£40pm, enough to have 3~4 punts a year instead.

For some members, having the use of an available pool at 1am could be tricky!!

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=26514.0

Offline akauya

This thread should be in off topic so that casual not allowed readers don't "stumble" upon it   :cool:


Offline CBPaul

If your attached, the timing of the punt is critical, you punt and then go home. Youre flushed, and looking shifty, and you must be very about the smell on you, both on your clothes and her fanny smell on ya face assuming you didnt shower prior to leaving, i always kept wet wipes in me car to clean my mush properly after the punt, the times ive had the smell of her pussy up my nose !

Just be very careful about clothes, smell and youre persona, women are fucking great at picking up on it

Never get complacent, ya cheating

You're telling me they are great at picking up on it. The closest I've come to being caught was when Mrs CBP smelt a shower gel we didn't have. A bit of quick thinking and I got away with it.

Now I never punt and go straight home if there is anyone else in.

Offline CoolTiger

No one's mentioned CASH yet...
Quite an important part of our world, and unless your job pays cash in hand can be traceable on bank statements for months afterwards.

I try to squirrel away what I can as the opportunities arise, to avoid large withdrawals.
Cashback at the supermarket is another good way to stash a bit more away for future punts.
I've tried hiding cash in various places, but have settled on an inner pocket of my wallet - that way it's kept safe and can be used for more 'legit' purposes in an emergency.

I sometimes access a semi dormant current account (last time to go to LMP) I can top it up afterwards, though there's still the risk of this being discovered unless you do this by cash at a branch, but that defeats the object a little bit.


Cash in an old jacket may be fine, but watch out for any spring cleaning where the OH goes through all the pockets prior to having it washed/dry cleaned.

I know of a member who keeps all the spare cash (saved up in various ways) at work, with the Accounts Lady, who keeps it in the safe at work.

I know of another member whose genuine expense claim at work for mileage / minor company expenses, is paid cash to him, enabling him to easily have a punt or two each month without having to draw any cash from a joint account!!   

Offline CoolTiger


I sometimes access a semi dormant current account (last time to go to LMP) I can top it up afterwards, though there's still the risk of this being discovered unless you do this by cash at a branch, but that defeats the object a little bit.


It is possible to get a PAYG credit card and have this account topped up, for using online purchases on AW (PG) or even saving up for  a punt. A costly way cos there there may be charges for cash withdrawals.

In addition, the credit card needs to be delivered to your home address, although I know of a few who have had it delivered to their work address, as this in no way arouses any suspicion.

Offline CoolTiger

This thread should be in off topic so that casual not allowed readers don't "stumble" upon it   :cool:


Agreed, but as Smiths point out at the beginning of this thread, most points mentioned here have been repeated so many times (here and loads of other forums, not necessarily punting ones either) for past 15 years that if someone really wanted to dig in deep, they could find everything that has ever been mentioned as a tip.

Also, new members can't access OT section straight away.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2014, 12:23:11 pm by CoolTiger »

Offline Freddybigstuff1983

Addition point:

Use seperate email providers for home/punting.  My home emails are gmail, for punting I use various.

The last thing you want is for your other half to open up her gmail page, and although you've logged out (because you always log out don't you?) there is a strange username sat in the field - google that name and a ukp post comes up in your punting name.