Has Anyone gone from Client to Lover of a Working Girl

[jesse4585]

you fall in love with a DECENT WOMAN..

All depends on what you mean by Decent.   Each to their own  - if your idea of Decency = religious type notions of chasity, then sure a whore is always going to  be indecent.

For me, decency includes being kind, open minded, tolerant, independent of thought.  And at least with the sort of WG I've tended to punt,  they seem to be  at least as likely to have those virtues as a non sex worker.

Not trying to say anyone should intentionally look for love with a WG, IMO it's a lot less likely to end well.  Still, not all of us have the luxury of being able to find love with a totally ideal woman.

[finn5555]

falling in love with an escort isn’t necessarily different to falling in love with a regular woman.

Not strictly true  takes a certain something to accept your bird is sucking and fucking every Tom Dick and Abdul for cash 

[James999]

A pro$sie is usually "damaged goods" and this will eventually surface and cause problems

[PRIYA-X]

Not strictly true  takes a certain something to accept your bird is sucking and fucking every Tom Dick and Abdul for cash 

You know what? You are right about that. It does take a very secure man to accept that kind of past. I won’t disagree.

[jesse4585]

A pro$sie is usually "damaged goods" and this will eventually surface and cause problems

Possibly slightly less true these days it used to be.  Now there seems to be less social stigma against WGs than was once the case,  more women seem to be having a spell as a sex worker, including ones who could quite easily find other forms of work.  E.g. I've heard from various sources that on some unis these days, about 1 in 5 of the students are going onto the suggar daddy platforms like SA. And the subject is widely discussed on campus as a career option, something that never seemed to happen a few decades back.

That said, don't disagree that there's at least slightly more chance of a WG being damaged goods, as Im sure many a CaptainSaveHoe will continue to find out the hard way.

[PRIYA-X]

A pro$sie is usually "damaged goods" and this will eventually surface and cause problems

I don’t agree with the damaged goods analogy but yeah sure, I accept what you’re saying. However, you find women who haven’t ever escorted that are all kinds of crazy too.
I don’t come without my own particular “unique qualities” - no one’s perfect right? Pretty sure behind all this, you’ve gone through things in your own life that have shaped who you are. It would take a pretty ballsy man to say that he doesn’t have any issues at all.

[James999]

I don’t agree with the damaged goods analogy .

 A bit like the alcoholic, they have to accept before they can try and treat 

[finn5555]

career option

 

[James999]

Well many do claim to be "Digree Edukated" 

[finn5555]

Nearly as common as the tight pussy claim 

[James999]

Or the regular health checks or shower between clients 

[Cellular40]

A pro$sie is usually "damaged goods" and this will eventually surface and cause problems

So is a punter to many people.

Check this poll out External Link/Members Only
“For example, two in five (39%) feel that it is very or fairly acceptable for a man to purchase sex with a woman, and more than half (52%) find this very or fairly unacceptable. However, when the question asks "Please imagine that the man purchasing sex is related to you, for example your brother, son or father. In this case would it be acceptable or unacceptable?", acceptability drops to 10 points 29% and unacceptability increases 10 points to 62%.”

People are more accepting of a woman charging for sex than they are of a man paying for it in this poll, even less so if he is someone they know.

We are all damaged goods.

[RogerBoner]

We are all damaged goods.

 

[king tarzan]

If you’re not negatively emotionally invested in sex work, it’s a job just like any other. You go to work, you provide a service, you’re paid for it and then you leave. It doesn’t have to be any more or less complicated than that.
In which case, falling in love with an escort isn’t necessarily different to falling in love with a regular woman. Now, that’s not to say that every escort is relationship material because they’re not; but it’s possible.

A lot of WG’s have simply made a choice to monopolise what they can offer and gain something from it; you can either fuck for free, or get paid for it. It’s a choice. It doesn’t have to be who you are, it’s just something you do. It doesn’t have to be a qualifier for how decent (or not) a human you are.

I did a job, I got what I wanted from it, found a relationship and have now moved on. Nothing desperate on either side; you fall for who you fall for.

Carry on convincing yourself.

[jesse4585]

We are all damaged goods.

James wasn't using 'damaged goods'  just to mean flawed.

The expression usually refers to people who've had something mega traumatic happen to them which permanently damages their psych, or just a really bad childhood.

Such people can sometimes seem quite spectacular in short doses, but long term they're unstable.  So they have great difficulty with normal long term relationships,  or holding down a regular job. So in the case of females,  sex work is sometimes the only job they can do.  Example: Studies found that for some of extreme atheist/communist orphanages they had in Romania back in the 80s,  over 95% of the females went into prostitution after they left. Likely as it was all they could do.

That said,  I tend to believe a large majority of those engaged in sex work in UK right now are not damaged goods,  I hope not anyway.  And even in the past,  some of the most amazing women in history were whores   (& some of the most accomplished men punters, for that matter).

[Cellular40]

James wasn't using 'damaged goods'  just to mean flawed.

The expression usually refers to people who've had something mega traumatic happen to them which permanently damages their psych, or just a really bad childhood.

Such people can sometimes seem quite spectacular in short doses, but long term they're unstable.  So they have great difficulty with normal long term relationships,  or holding down a regular job. So in the case of females,  sex work is sometimes the only job they can do.  Example: Studies found that for some of extreme atheist/communist orphanages they had in Romania back in the 80s,  over 95% of the females went into prostitution after they left. Likely as it was all they could do.

That said,  I tend to believe a large majority of those engaged in sex work in UK right now are not damaged goods,  I hope not anyway.  And even in the past,  some of the most amazing women in history were whores   (& some of the most accomplished men punters, for that matter).

How do you know exactly what James meant? Can you read his mind?
All walks of life get into sex work, fucked up women, druggies, criminals and average women.

[jesse4585]

How do you know exactly what James meant? Can you read his mind?
All walks of life get into sex work, fucked up women, druggies, criminals and average women.

I'm not the biggest James fanboi,  but he doesn't seem the sort to waste his time pointing out the obvious.

Some here (including me) were maybe being a little too positive about relationships with WGs.   James balanced it out by highlighting a danger that has has caused a lot of pain to many a CatainSaveHo.   Which is good in my book, don't want any young punters getting an overly optimistic impression.   Accurate info like that is what this forum is all about. It doesn't tend to come from any one poster,  it's often in the middle between our different points of view.  (And especially in the rankings from multiple reviews.)

I'm glad at least we agree that folk from all walks of life get into sex work. 

[nightbot]

Well there are all sorts of people in the industry, the ones who are stable and do it long term, the ones who are stable and have a financial goal to reach after which they quit, the ones who are unstable and unhappy but use it as a means to escape, the ones who are unstable and don't want to do it much but feel like they have to because of their financial situation etc etc. People do this for different reasons and everyone has some shit to deal with anyway in and out of the industry.

I will say that the stable ones are incredibly stable and confident in themselves, any friendship/relationship with them will be clear and positive as they will be like a rock. Whereas having the same with the unstable ones will lead to confusions, change in attitude, they could feel one way one day and totally opposite the next, basically it'll be very unreliable and as such not very good and probably won't last long.

This isn't actually any different from people outside the industry, it's just that I believe the business itself is a difficult one so the variations can be more extreme and observable here.

[unclepokey]

I've fallen heavily for a particular SP who is beautiful and who I respect and will try my hardest to marry if ever I am free so to do.
Were this ever to happen she would not ever have to work again but I could live with her seeing old clients. We would also meet other couples with whom we've had fun together. My widow's pension would keep her in comfort once I've cum my last.

If only

Uncle pokey

[Jonestown]

I've fallen heavily for a particular SP who is beautiful and who I respect and will try my hardest to marry if ever I am free so to do.
Were this ever to happen she would not ever have to work again but I could live with her seeing old clients. We would also meet other couples with whom we've had fun together. My widow's pension would keep her in comfort once I've cum my last.

If only

Uncle pokey

Just watch out that the little beauty doesn't make an early move and book you on a one way weekend to a nice relaxing clinic in Switzerland.

[RogerBoner]

I've fallen heavily for a particular SP who is beautiful and who I respect and will try my hardest to marry if ever I am free so to do.
Were this ever to happen she would not ever have to work again but I could live with her seeing old clients. We would also meet other couples with whom we've had fun together. My widow's pension would keep her in comfort once I've cum my last.

If only

Uncle pokey

Sorry mate but I've just read your reviews and found this 

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[winkywanky]

These women ARE ONLY FOR FUN..
you fall in love with a DECENT WOMAN..


BLOODY FOOLS IF THEY FALL IN LOVE WITH A HOOKER

GO AND GET YOUR BRAIN TESTED!!

Must be desperate emotions.. how fucken sad!

Yes, a big part of punting is for fun, or unquenched needs and desires, whatever, everyone's a little different and has their own reasons.

But for you to say WGs aren't decent women is no different from saying punters aren't decent men, and I assume you realise that includes you?

By your logic you consign yourself to a loveless life, because what woman in their right mind would want to be with you?

WGs and punters are both sides of the same coin, to simply diss one side as unloveable is the height of hypocrisy.

[Cellular40]

Yes, a big part of punting is for fun, or unquenched needs and desires, whatever, everyone's a little different and has their own reasons.

But for you to say WGs aren't decent women is no different from saying punters aren't decent men, and I assume you realise that includes you?

By your logic you consign yourself to a loveless life, because what woman in their right mind would want to be with you?

WGs and punters are both sides of the same coin, to simply diss one side as unloveable is the height of hypocrisy.

+1!!!!
Couldn’t agree more.

[wannabe]

+1!!!!
Couldn’t agree more.

Seconded.

[Bonker]

"WGs and punters are both sides of the same coin... ".

Very well put. The spirit of the bard lives on.

[Bonker]

A bit like the alcoholic, they have to accept before they can try and treat 

That's a bit of a leap in logic!
You seem very bitter about WGs. Have you taken my negative reviews as some sort of challenge and punted them?

I'll have to have a look around the next time I leave a punt.

[DrConners]

You know what? You are right about that. It does take a very secure man to accept that kind of past. I won’t disagree.

You've hung up your knickers & retired from escorting (for the time being I presume) according to this post & others.

You are still clearly showing as a 'service provider' here 

Might want to report your post & have this status repealed - Why are you even logging in here now ?

That's pretty fucking weird, does your bf know you are still keeping tabs on the hooking marketplace ?

Before you unleash your ego, no I'm not remotely interested in your private life, just stating a fact.

[James999]

does your bf know you are still keeping tabs on the hooking marketplace ?

He's probably to busy with the other pro$sies to bother with what she's doing 

[nightbot]

You've hung up your knickers & retired from escorting (for the time being I presume) according to this post & others.

You are still clearly showing as a 'service provider' here 

Might want to report your post & have this status repealed - Why are you even logging in here now ?

That's pretty fucking weird, does your bf know you are still keeping tabs on the hooking marketplace ?

Before you unleash your ego, no I'm not remotely interested in your private life, just stating a fact.

She has already answered this question in the last page.

[Home Alone]

Not a lover no, but I bumped into a lass I'd met a couple of times who had left the game probably a year, 18 months previously. Turned out we worked in a similar field, and we hooked up a few times. Nowt came of it, but it was fun.

Now that I could cope with.

One of the things that used to piss me off about the OH was the way she used the word "love". She seemed to use it about everyone she liked, whereas I'd use a phrase like "am fond of" to describe someone I liked but felt that "love" implied a closer feeling than I actually felt.

Not sure I could be, or would want to be in a relationship with a current or ex WG. I would imagine there would always be an element of mistrust, on both sides.

At my age, I'm not looking for a new relationship; I'm too set in my ways. That includes being an - increasingly infrequent  - punter these days. It doesn't stop me still being friends - nothing more, nothing less -  and in occasional contact with two of my last three Regulars, each of whom is retired.

[workinallweek]

Yes, a big part of punting is for fun, or unquenched needs and desires, whatever, everyone's a little different and has their own reasons.

But for you to say WGs aren't decent women is no different from saying punters aren't decent men, and I assume you realise that includes you?

By your logic you consign yourself to a loveless life, because what woman in their right mind would want to be with you?

WGs and punters are both sides of the same coin, to simply diss one side as unloveable is the height of hypocrisy.

unfortunatelly i do like to have a connection (loves a bit strong but maybe) for a girl if i am having sex with her . Personally i find the whole experience better ..  but im me any you lot are you lot ... we are all different .

[Hobbit]

Yes, a big part of punting is for fun, or unquenched needs and desires, whatever, everyone's a little different and has their own reasons.

But for you to say WGs aren't decent women is no different from saying punters aren't decent men, and I assume you realise that includes you?

By your logic you consign yourself to a loveless life, because what woman in their right mind would want to be with you?

WGs and punters are both sides of the same coin, to simply diss one side as unloveable is the height of hypocrisy.

I don't think anybody is saying that escorts aren't decent women. What some people are trying to say when they mean "damaged goods" can apply to men and women but because we are talking about escorts let's stick to that.

I have seen several escorts over the course of time and a lot of them have either expressed directly or indirectly through conversations of some kind of trauma in their lives. You just have to see how many escorts have cut marks on their body which clearly points to some kind of past trauma. I have also heard escorts refer to punters as "fuckers" through conversations which clearly shows what they think of us, this can be compounded by what is written about us on SAAFE. Escorts that come on here to defend their lifestyles are just perpetuating the illusion.

Also, you can't really say that an escort that lets punters piss in their mouths or swallows cum all day are marriage material. The fact is that nobody likes doing that but due to past difficulties and trauma they choose to.

[finn5555]

Also, you can't really say that an escort that lets punters piss in their mouths or swallows cum all day are marriage material. The fact this nobody likes doing that but due to past difficulties and trauma they choose to.

They do it purely for money and that’s why many bareback under the counter 
Let’s be frank here they have a very limited shelf life and stacking shelves for a minimum wage isn’t appealing.
Most end up bitter twisted and alone

[DrConners]

She has already answered this question in the last page.

I missed that, something about 'having contributions to make' - Not sure I agree but fair enough.

She's still listed as a SP though isn't she.

[finn5555]

I missed that, something about 'having contributions to make' - Not sure I agree but fair enough.

She's still listed as a SP though isn't she.

The lure of good money and new shoes means she probably sells her arse behind her blokes back! 

[Hobbit]

They do it purely for money and that’s why many bareback under the counter 
Let’s be frank here they have a very limited shelf life and stacking shelves for a minimum wage isn’t appealing.
Most end up bitter twisted and alone

Spot on. Or some find escorts younger than them and pimp them out to extend their shelf life.

[finn5555]

Spot on. Or some find escorts younger than them and pimp them out to extend their shelf life.

Become maids in shit hole parlours mostly clearing up used condoms and mopping up jizz 

[Hobbit]

Become maids in shit hole parlours mostly clearing up used condoms and mopping up jizz 

The repetitive cycle just goes on and on.

[James999]

Become maids in shit hole parlours mostly clearing up used condoms and mopping up jizz 

The sad thing is they consider that as promotion 

[Hobbit]

The sad thing is they consider that as promotion 

I guess it would be seen as career development? 

[Cellular40]

I don't think anybody is saying that escorts aren't decent women. What some people are trying to say when they mean "damaged goods" can apply to men and women but because we are talking about escorts let's stick to that.

I have seen several escorts over the course of time and a lot of them have either expressed directly or indirectly through conversations of some kind of trauma in their lives. You just have to see how many escorts have cut marks on their body which clearly points to some kind of past trauma. I have also heard escorts refer to punters as "fuckers" through conversations which clearly shows what they think of us, this can be compounded by what is written about us on SAAFE. Escorts that come on here to defend their lifestyles are just perpetuating the illusion.

Also, you can't really say that an escort that lets punters piss in their mouths or swallows cum all day are marriage material. The fact is that nobody likes doing that but due to past difficulties and trauma they choose to.

That’s crap.
No doubt many escorts don’t enjoy doing it, but both those acts CAN be enjoyed by escorts and women in general and to put it down to “trauma or difficulties” as to why they do it is rubbish, unless you know why every escort does things of course. Is anyone material these days? How many women would want to marry me if I admitted to liking paying for sex and licking their arses? 

Some escorts having traumas or difficulties in their life doesn’t speak for every escort.
You talk about self harming, in all my years of punting I’ve only ever seen one escort with visible marks, that same escort spoke about trauma. I’ve had lots of regulars over the years and this trauma you speak of or ALL looking down on punters hasn’t been noticed by me. Which shows it’s not every escort. No doubt there are some.

Just as there are some punters who look down on WG’s and don’t actually like them but use them, that doesn’t stand for us all.
Yes there’s negativity on SAAFE I have read it, but surely you know it’s not a place those women go to rave about punters? It’s quite the opposite mostly warnings, and moaning about work.

Who doesn’t moan about work? I fucking do, if someone heard me talking about work sometimes they’d think I hated my job and everyone in it, but I don’t.
It’s unwise to make assumptions on a whole group of people based on a select few. Our experiences with escorts will differ because of the type of escorts we choose to see.

I take people at face value rather than make assumptions when I don’t know them.

[Hobbit]

That’s crap.
No doubt many escorts don’t enjoy doing it, but both those acts CAN be enjoyed by escorts and women in general and to put it down to “trauma or difficulties” as to why they do it is rubbish, unless you know why every escort does things of course. Is anyone material these days? How many women would want to marry me if I admitted to liking paying for sex and licking their arses?

So would you do it? Let every Tom, Dick and Ahmed piss in your mouth day in day out? Agreed that some like it but not as a full time job.

Everyone is material these days. Tell your bank manager or wife you're not paying the mortgage anymore, let's see how loving they are then.

Yes, not many women would want to marry someone who fucks around - it works both ways.

Some escorts having traumas or difficulties in their life doesn’t speak for every escort.
You talk about self harming, in all my years of punting I’ve only ever seen one escort with visible marks, that same escort spoke about trauma. I’ve had lots of regulars over the years and this trauma you speak of or ALL looking down on punters hasn’t been noticed by me. Which shows it’s not every escort. No doubt there are some.

Just as there are some punters who look down on WG’s and don’t actually like them but use them, that doesn’t stand for us all.
Yes there’s negativity on SAAFE I have read it, but surely you know it’s not a place those women go to rave about punters? It’s quite the opposite mostly warnings, and moaning about work.

I have seen numerous girls that escort that had self harming issues. There have been some forum darlings who have been well known for past life self harming. So you may need to get out there a bit more as you certainly lack experience in punting.

Who doesn’t moan about work? I fucking do, if someone heard me talking about work sometimes they’d think I hated my job and everyone in it, but I don’t.
It’s unwise to make assumptions on a whole group of people based on a select few. Our experiences with escorts will differ because of the type of escorts we choose to see.

I take people at face value rather than make assumptions when I don’t know them.

I'm not making assumptions. This is based on over 20 years of experience. What has not liking your job anything to do with this? I just said that most people would not marry someone that lets many punters piss in their mouth.

I see things clearly - at the moment it looks like it's you making assumptions based on lack of experience. 

[finn5555]

That’s crap.
No doubt many escorts don’t enjoy doing it, but both those acts CAN be enjoyed by escorts

You are deluded pros$ies do it for the money as simple as that 

[Cellular40]

You are deluded pros$ies do it for the money as simple as that 

Of course they do it for the money, would be stupid to think otherwise.
Stating that nobody likes doing a certain act is rubbish. Re read my comments.

[Hobbit]

Of course they do it for the money, would be stupid to think otherwise.
Stating that nobody likes doing a certain act is rubbish. Re read my comments.

So would you do it? 

[Cellular40]

So would you do it? Let every Tom, Dick and Ahmed piss in your mouth day in day out? Agreed that some like it but not as a full time job.

I wouldn’t let anyone piss in my mouth because it does fuck all for me, money or not tbh.
As I said, it’s an act some people enjoy punters, escorts, civvies.

Everyone is material these days. Tell your bank manager or wife you're not paying the mortgage anymore, let's see how loving they are then.

I meant marriage material.

Yes, not many women would want to marry someone who fucks around - it works both ways.

Hence my point, it does work both ways. I find some look down on one side, whilst not realising they are the other side of the same coin.

I have seen numerous girls that escort that had self harming issues. There have been some forum darlings who have been well known for past life self harming. So you may need to get out there a bit more as you certainly lack experience in punting.

I’ve been punting over 20 years, so I certainly don’t lack experience. Maybe the escorts I pay to fuck are different from the ones you pay to fuck hence why my experience in coming across those with trauma and self harm is significantly less.

I'm not making assumptions. This is based on over 20 years of experience. What has not liking your job anything to do with this? I just said that most people would not marry someone that lets many punters piss in their mouth.

Anything without solid evidence is an assumption or a generalisation. Unless said person who lets people piss in their mouth says “I let people piss in my mouth” or they are well known, their future partners will be none the wiser.

I see things clearly - at the moment it looks like it's you making assumptions based on lack of experience. 

There’s another assumption you’ve made. You assume because my experiences in over 20 years differ from yours that I lack experience. Maybe that’s a reflection of yourself.

But in this instance, it’s not a reflection on me. 

[finn5555]

Of course they do it for the money, would be stupid to think otherwise.
Stating that nobody likes doing a certain act is rubbish. Re read my comments.

I need to borrow your rose tinted glasses 

[nightbot]

It strikes me as amusing that some people think a sexual act is degrading even if they would happily do it themselves. Generally you can guess a poster's age based on how they talk about a WG and the older they are the more they seem to hold onto traditional notions of sex and relationships...and the more they think of WGs as "abnormal".

Which is fine ofc, but it is bit ironic because one cannot hold onto traditional beliefs while still partaking in something that's the exact opposite. The moment you start seeing WGs you sign on to a world of casual sex with a level of sexual freedom where the act of sex itself is not put at such a high pedestal, hence I find it amusing when the classic "every Tom, Dick and Abdul" gets thrown around, it's already been brought up twice ok this very page. This is basically no different than a man who has casual sex with different women regularly, enjoying the power trip, while also calling the female equivalent of himself sluts. The other thing being, the ridiculous comments that any partner of a WG must love having his girl fucked by everyone and his mates...like that's just an absurd leap in logic and I don't even know how you get there.

Think about this, how would the partner of a punter feel if she knew he was fucking, licking and pissing on every Jill, Megan, and Harriet?

[Cellular40]

I need to borrow your rose tinted glasses 

I doubt they’d fit on your jaded face mate.

[Cellular40]

It strikes me as amusing that some people think a sexual act is degrading even if they would happily do it themselves. Generally you can guess a poster's age based on how they talk about a WG and the older they are the more they seem to hold onto traditional notions of sex and relationships...and the more they think of WGs as "abnormal".

Which is fine ofc, but it is bit ironic because one cannot hold onto traditional beliefs while still partaking in something that's he exact opposite. The moment you start seeing WGs you sign on to a world of sexual freedom where the act of sex itself is not put at such a high pedestal, hence I find it amusing when the classic "every Tom, Dick and Abdul" gets thrown around, it's already been brought up twice ok this very page. This is basically no different than a man who beds different women regularly also calling the female equivalent of him sluts. The other thing being, the ridiculous comments that any partner of a WG must love having his girl fucked by everyone and his mates...like that's just an absurd leap in logic and I don't even know how you get there.

Think about this, how would the partner of a punter feel if she knew he was fucking, licking and pissing on every Jill, Megan, and Harriet?

Spot on.

Some people are very jaded WG’s and punters, yet they still participate in this industry. And there is no amount of debate that will change their view or let them become more open minded, and that not everything is black and white.

Then there are those of us in the middle who tend to take people at face value and as individuals rather than group everyone into category’s based on experience and personal bias.
I can’t see why anyone would want to spend their hard earned on a hobby where they don’t necessarily “like” the service provider, equally I can’t see why anyone would want to waste their precious time getting into an industry where they clearly dislike the customers. 

Nowt stranger than folk though.