When you can’t cum up her chuff

[Marmalade]

Several threads have highlighted an occasional syndrome where a guy gets hard and stays hard but has difficulty coming. The most common times seem to be for the ‘second shot’ or else relatef to viagra-induced hard-ons or age.

I did however come across, no pun intended haha, this weird article that some members will I think find amusing or useful. Some of the observations I reckon are common-sense though not easily thought of, and especially appropriate when prοssies can’t give a decent hand job or when their cunts are as active as very dusty disused  fleshlight

eg (after the usual clinical psychobabble):

(delayed ejaculation) is exacerbated by insufficient stimulation: an inadequate combination of "friction and fantasy

Many men with DE engage in an idiosyncratic masturbatory style, defined as a masturbation technique not easily duplicated by the partner's hand, mouth, or vagina.

Have a gander here if you’re interested: External Link/Members Only

Enjoy. 

[tantric talents]

"Friction and Fantasy" seems a very appropriate name for a duo of hot, tight SP's   

[cotton]

"Many men with DE engage in an idiosyncratic masturbatory style, defined as a masturbation technique not easily duplicated by the partner's hand, mouth, or vagina."

I found it difficult to come from a blowjob for a while , i actually found it helped rubbing the girls back frantically in like a wanking motion, somehow engaged my brain to help trigger orgasm , more problematic ejaculation than delayed. Obviously got acclimatised to my own solo teqnique.

[winkywanky]

I found it difficult to come from a blowjob for a while , i actually found it helped rubbing the girls back frantically in like a wanking motion, somehow engaged my brain to help trigger orgasm

How did you explain this to the girl?

[cotton]

How did you explain this to the girl?

I didnt . Most of the time like at the start i would have my hand exploring her body and her pussy , it was only towards the end that i found the frenetic hand movement on her back helped me over the edge and i guess the girls realised it was indicative of getting near orgasm and it just spurred them on . I only had one girl who irritatedly shrugged my had off but i think that was more a psycological thing for her than anything else.

[nurfe7]

it's a bit weird but if it tricked your brain then so be it

[Hobbit]

 I have the opposite problem. I tend to cum to quickly. Recently I have been trying to slow things down into being in more control when inside her. Not easy.

[Arbetare]

I had this "not coming in the chuff" problem for years, but I stopped wanking and that helped a lot. It took 18 months odd from starting punting, but I now pop whilst shagging pretty much every time.

[Silva21]

I've got 2nd pop syndrome.

Its not easy.

100% success on the first rnd only about 20% on the 2nd.

Stopping wanking fixed a lot of my hangups early on.

[freeze44]

For me it will nearly always be the wg who will either make me cum or not.

Had some punts when been ready to cum in mins as the wg has got me going so well and then ready for round 2 quite soon but also where I know I could go on for hours and nothing is going to get me across the line unless I wank myself off!

[fastnet]

I can only dream of DE, I tend to cum far to early for my liking.
Slowly learning to control things, but the idea of shagging away fast and furious with no thoughts of slowing down is my idea of heaven.

[m4rmite]

I didn't have a wank for around 4 days and nearly blew the WG to the moon in minutes.
She did have a cheeky smile and was straight in for the kissing.

The WG nearly always makes the  difference, but there has been the odd exception

[Horizontal pleasures]

I never heard the word 'chuff' in this context before, I associate with steam trains or breathing or discontent.

I cannot easily come in the chuff in a condom. So I am not chuffed! Have to resort to hand or mouth.

Too old for second comings.

[Silva21]

I didn't have a wank for around 4 days and nearly blew the WG to the moon in minutes.
She did have a cheeky smile and was straight in for the kissing.

The WG nearly always makes the  difference, but there has been the odd exception

I abstained for just under two weeks and when I came in the sp's mouth there must have a pint of it.
She said 'Jesus, you can tell you're married!` ha!

[cunningman]

I have the opposite problem. I tend to cum to quickly. Recently I have been trying to slow things down into being in more control when inside her. Not easy.

+1 though I've found blue pill helps somewhat.

I really enjoy the stronger erection, though I'd also like to be able to go for longer, at least without 'getting too close' breaks.

[mradventures]

i have this, also had/have it from porn, its odd, you fantasise over having a hot girl when watching porn, then when you finally do in civvy life, or see a sp. its as exciting and amazing as a glass of water and slice of bread. yeah, it really is like that and feels mundane like shopping in tesco's.

not sure if that makes my dick insensitive or mine just inherently is, or maybe it is to foreign touch? i dunno. i can get assulted by pubic bone too, that dont help.

lasting 30-60mins without trying (but exhausting physically) is normal for me, so is not achieving orgasm.

guess if i was a male escort i could be called plough-you-longtime

also shame wg dont charge per pop 

[cunningman]

Many men with DE engage in an idiosyncratic masturbatory style, defined as a masturbation technique not easily duplicated by the partner's hand, mouth, or vagina.

Interesting.  I've been a long-time wanker (who hasn't?) and had been trying to refrain, but also to find a release when funds or time are short and I'm in danger of choosing some really low-rent release.

As it happened, I got a lass from WYP to engage and I had noticed the range of bullet vibes in Sainsbury.  I bought a midrange one, I think it was about 8 quid.  We didn't need it in the end but I took it away and thought I'd see what it did.  It turns out that rubbing it over myself is quite interesting (nipples/cock/balls) but what I had not expected was to find that if I hold it quite firmly either just behind the glans head (ie between it and me) or just opposite side then it will make me cum and sometimes uncontrollably - god knows what a Hitachi does to a woman.  Or a man.

Anyway - I haven't run the battery flat yet and its saved me quite a lot.  And no death-grip. Would certainly not be replicated by a partner, though.  Unless they are wielding something similar.

[WASA38]

As it happened, I got a lass from WYP to engage ---

WYP ?
West Yorkshire Playhouse, West Yorkshire Police, wee your pants, what's your problem ---

[cunningman]

WYP ?
West Yorkshire Playhouse, West Yorkshire Police, wee your pants, what's your problem ---

WhatsYourPrice.

Who recently introduced an 'apply for refund' facility, which i used, and then thought 'Free Credits' and then applied again while a bit pissed and they clearly reviewed my approach to getting girls off-platform.  So I'm banned. :-(

Can't bring myself to pay for SA, somehow.

[CoverMyEyes]

I have the opposite problem. I tend to cum to quickly. Recently I have been trying to slow things down into being in more control when inside her. Not easy.

I have the same. And being a 1 popper (need a couple of hours to recover, never managed 2 in an hour to date but always willing to try!) I tend to look for slow, but still enjoyable, times. IMO it's about the brain - my brain says "Oh hello, I'm fucking someone hot, that's nice, GO GO GO".

[Colston36]

Thank you. A revelation. Now I see my problem with not just the second but sometimes the first coming is due not to being 82 or forgetting to scoff the Cialis but to a lack of transdisciplinary perspective.

Some academic tosser got paid to write that incomprehensible guff.

[mradventures]

might be worth getting a flesh light or similer, but also needing to stay off the porn  or video porn :x

not directed at anyone, just general thought

[Marmalade]

shame wg dont charge per pop 

Oh have more than one and a lot will!

[B4bcock]

i have this, also had/have it from porn, its odd, you fantasise over having a hot girl when watching porn, then when you finally do in civvy life, or see a sp. its as exciting and amazing as a glass of water and slice of bread. yeah, it really is like that and feels mundane like shopping in tesco'

Quite common, this.    You tend to look at porn/masturbate when in the mood, whereas a punt is booked in advance (sometimes days) and, at the appointed time, you aren't always feeling it, so it's not always a case of "Cometh the hour, cometh the man" so to speak.

[Horizontal pleasures]

"Cometh the hour, cometh the man"

like

[ComposedOne1]

ill rather have that then my PE

[Marmalade]

ill rather have that then my PE

Well there’s a pill for that though unfortunately not for DE.

Just out of interest, have you experienced PE in the past year with all the prostitutes you haven’t reviewed?

[Silva21]

Well there’s a pill for that though unfortunately not for DE.

Just out of interest, have you experienced PE in the past year with all the prostitutes you haven’t reviewed?

Ha! You're a brutal guy Marmalade!

[Fanny]

I can never function in a condom but oral and hand job work fine most of the time.
On occasions if I’ve nearly got there and the girl shifts position or the phone rings,  I can have a sort of dry orgasmn and cannot shoot my load when she carries on. Thinks it’s a psychological thing.

[Rockhead]

Here's one thing I've always been curious about and never really got my head around (because guys don't tend to talk about this sort of thing):

When shagging, what time frame is 'normal' for cumming? Or alternatively, how long would it need to take to be considered 'delayed', or how short a time to be considered 'premature'?

Dr Google suggests DE is where more than 30 mins of 'sexual stimulation' is required, but that could mean a lot of things, not just go-for-it up-chuff shagging which is what we're talking about here. So what do people perceive as 'normal' in this context? Wikipedia states that men's "typical ejaculatory latency [i.e. the time it takes to cum] is approximately 4–8 minutes" - sound about right?

[winkywanky]

Dr Google suggests DE is where more than 30 mins of 'sexual stimulation' is required, but that could mean a lot of things, not just go-for-it up-chuff shagging which is what we're talking about here. So what do people perceive as 'normal' in this context? Wikipedia states that men's "typical ejaculatory latency [i.e. the time it takes to cum] is approximately 4–8 minutes" - sound about right?

I think both of those are correct, as upper and lower limits.

The one thing which would override both of those is an experienced guy who is able to purposely delay ejaculation by various means.

But yes, I think less than 4mins could be considered premature, and more than 30mins could be considered delayed.

Lots of factors will be at play though, time period from previous cum, state of arousal when sex started, whether any sexual medication has been taken, how hot is the subject of your arousal, etc.

[Zeusthedoc]

"Friction and Fantasy" seems a very appropriate name for a duo of hot, tight SP's   

i imagine fantasy is a stunner who ride you silly and friction is the shit/ugly SP who walks around and texts - dropping the odd line like "yeah, that's it baby"

[cotton]

4 minutes !!!  im all for a bit of macho chest beating but seriously who honestly lasts that long 

[winkywanky]

...oh dear...

[Zeusthedoc]

4 minutes !!!  im all for a bit of macho chest beating but seriously who honestly lasts that long 

no shame in admitting we all have good days and bad days....

[piotrskut]

Well there’s a pill for that though unfortunately not for DE.

Just out of interest, have you experienced PE in the past year with all the prostitutes you haven’t reviewed?

    quote of the day

[tantric talents]

 have you experienced PE in the past year with all the prostitutes you haven’t reviewed?

Quite but what would be the point. The reviews would surely all be frustratingly short one liners...
Not quite Veni, vidi, vici
More like just vidi, non veni

[Doc Holliday]

Lots of factors will be at play though, time period from previous cum, state of arousal when sex started, whether any sexual medication has been taken, how hot is the subject of your arousal, etc.

All true, and it's not an exact science and a diagnosis is usually based on an average over time for that individual. If the majority of your sexual encounters result in ejaculation within 2 to 3 mins then PE is likely although this can then be subdivided into different categories of stimulation ie digital/oral/penetration etc.

Delayed ejaculation is where the majority of your sexual activity results in ejaculation beyond 30 minutes or where a high proportion results in no ejaculation at all.

Both usually refer to the initial orgasm of a session where sex has not taken place within the previous 24 hour period, but each case must be evaluated individually taking into account all these various factors as well as age and sexual experience.

[tantric talents]

Quite but what would be the point. The reviews would surely all be frustratingly short one liners...
Not quite Veni, vidi, vici
More like just vidi, non veni

Oops that was meant to be vidi, veni, non vici 

[hungrypunt]

Plus 1 for laying off porn and avoiding the death grip wank.

@cunningman, interesting about the vibe bullet instead of wanking.

[Bonker]

I have DE.
When having sex with my wife.
20 years and counting.
But the foreplay is exciting - if you like sulks and nags.

[mradventures]

on the time thing, its probable those with PE or normal window, are enjoying it more per second or per thrust/action, and more in the moment, than someone with DE or certainly me.

if i was fit enough i could probably pound away non stop for 30-45mins, but also be pretty meh about it

so your total pleasure might be similar or more, just over a shorter time.

[Redpunter]

Have found that with a too high dose of Cialis 20mg instead of PE which I had previously suffered from I could screw for a hour with no result, very frustrating. Changed to the lower dose 10mg and blew the load in 15/20 mins.

[jakeh]

Many men are having issues with women from overloading their minds with years of access to free porn. The no fap and no porn movements are worth looking up. I used to watch porn to get myself excited and it's terrible for you as your brain releases endorphins then with a woman even if they are stunning and are begging to be fucked you feel very little.

[Silva21]

Many men are having issues with women from overloading their minds with years of access to free porn. The no fap and no porn movements are worth looking up. I used to watch porn to get myself excited and it's terrible for you as your brain releases endorphins then with a woman even if they are stunning and are begging to be fucked you feel very little.

Is the correct answer.

This place is really useful.

External Link/Members Only

[snaitram99]

Oops that was meant to be vidi, veni, non vici 

Well if he didn't come in the end it would be "non veni".

Surprising when O level Latin can be useful.

[tantric talents]

Well if he didn't come in the end it would be "non veni".

Surprising when O level Latin can be useful.

Yes that was the first thing I thought, then I realised the post I had replied to referred to PE rather than ED 

[freeze44]

Many men are having issues with women from overloading their minds with years of access to free porn. The no fap and no porn movements are worth looking up. I used to watch porn to get myself excited and it's terrible for you as your brain releases endorphins then with a woman even if they are stunning and are begging to be fucked you feel very little.

Get that wanking all the time and watching porn every day for example would fuck with your abilities but do enjoy and partake in a bit of both every now and then so presume the talk about stopping is for those where it has become almost an addiction?

Always have and think always will enjoy a good wank and bit of porn every now and then...or as the need arises...pun intended!   

[rubric]

Get that wanking all the time and watching porn every day for example would fuck with your abilities but do enjoy and partake in a bit of both every now and then so presume the talk about stopping is for those where it has become almost an addiction?

I think if you are regularly masturbating multiple times a day then yes probably restraint is called for - but the whole no fap thing is a weird form of purity culture.

I find that the biggest help is getting into the mindset that it doesn't matter if I come or not, and what I'm there for is to enjoy the physical sensations of the particular moment and go along where-ever they lead -- this coupled with the gumption to give the WG fairly precise instructions if necessary (for example, from experience being wanked or blown fast at ever increasing speeds *never* does it for me personally, and at that point I absolutely need to tell the WG to slow down and go sensual or I know its a waste of both time and money).

[Silva21]

I am frequently rock hard from OWO and rimming but the second I try to fuck her he just drops to an 8/10 errection. Just enough so he's still hard but it starts to become difficult.
Either it makes it so I struggle to get a good angle for entry which causes an issue or he keeps coming out if she's on top for eg.
I've frequently just asked her to suck my cock a touch more and CIM.

Does my head in.