Kiev, Ukraine punting tips ?

[maniaxx]

Salon Dream - Wow...The girls are out of this world. Prices between £40 and £100 for a body to body massage and various other extras depending on which service you go for. Highly recommend the two girl VIP which includes plenty of touching and kissing both girls. Expensive if you consider how much you can pay to fuck someone here but it’s a very good service and worth every penny if you’ve got some free time during the day. I used it twice in the two weeks I was there.

I did have an experience with salon dream, i had a girl at my apartment from then..they do home delivery too now the girl was not a wow but not bad either...a solid 7 out of 10 issues were...no English and no extra ,she was very friendly, smiling... genuinely smiling she had a good mood but she would not do anything " extra" no matter the $ , next day i txt the salon, asking if they have a girl who do extra...they said " no" only naked massage 😁 but to be fair the girl did a decent massage for a " erotic massage" they usually suck on that 😂😂

[Sullivan]

Thanks for the brilliant post Anonyous.

The brothel in Sofiivska Street, I'm staying right beside there. How easy do you think it is to find without a taxi? I don't see the point in getting in a taxi if I could walk.

[Hi88888888]

Anonyous-thst is properly the best ever post on this site.super thanks for great advice 😀

In salon dreams can you negotiate for sex or blowjob? If so how much extra does it cost?

Or literally they will just touch and kiss only?

[maniaxx]

Anonyous-thst is properly the best ever post on this site.super thanks for great advice 😀

In salon dreams can you negotiate for sex or blowjob? If so how much extra does it cost?

Or literally they will just touch and kiss only?

from my experience and from what anonymous said.. very small chances for extra...i offered up to 100$ for a bj just to see how far would she be tempted and she didn't.. didn't even negotiated... and to be fare I'm not the worst looking guy so she could not have some major turn offs...she just didn't want to do it...but the massage was good and i would say worth trying, you might get lucky, never know.... insist on asking but expect " no" good luck.

[pisceanuk]

Great stuff, Anonymous..cheers.

[anonymous86273]

Anonyous-thst is properly the best ever post on this site.super thanks for great advice 😀

In salon dreams can you negotiate for sex or blowjob? If so how much extra does it cost?

Or literally they will just touch and kiss only?

Only touching and kissing available as extras.

[anonymous86273]

Thanks for the brilliant post Anonyous.

The brothel in Sofiivska Street, I'm staying right beside there. How easy do you think it is to find without a taxi? I don't see the point in getting in a taxi if I could walk.

I have no idea. I was pretty drunk and just remember that’s where we ended up. I can’t even remember how I walked home that night but I was in an appartment on the next street parallel which is how I remember roughly where it was. There were no signs from memory.

[anonymous86273]

Thanks for your input and suggestions, very useful tips. just 1 question: you were mentioning earlier about a strip club at Tourist hotel...any chance you remembered the name? I've never been to a strip club but i was reading good reviews about club Rio...any chance you've been there? 😁
As far as myself...i used tinder in Kiev...mixed results..most of the girls there look for relationship..some of them even $ for sex..but if you look hard enough you can find some friends with benefits type...i like amateur type i mean i would like to pay a non-pro...but i would not really go for a pro..not anymore...not if i know she's a pro...i prefer tinder because I'm little bit introvert at the beginning...after ice is broken I'm all good ).

Sorry still no idea. Strip clubs aren’t really my thing and I only went there because I was staying in the hotel a couple of times. All I remember is because it was quiet it was quite relaxing there.

Club Rio is good though - and has good food too! Wasn’t overly expensive from memory about a year ago.

[Sullivan]

I have no idea. I was pretty drunk and just remember that’s where we ended up. I can’t even remember how I walked home that night but I was in an appartment on the next street parallel which is how I remember roughly where it was. There were no signs from memory.

Yes! I'm staying in an apartment on the road parallel also. Probably the same place.

If I can't find the place you mentioned, I'll go for a walk and take a taxi home.

[anonymous86273]

I’ve even tried walking around Google Streetview but can’t find it. I know we went between two buildings and the place was an appartment building set behind the main street but that’s all I remember. It was also on the bottom floor, through an entrance and first right. The rest is a blur!

[Wanking]

Anonymous,
What age group are you if its OK to ask?

Im 49, have lost weight and feeling fit at the moment. Whats the freebie scene like for blokes around 50 I wonder?

Also im trying to figure how this would compare to my usual German fkk /swingers trip where 5 days banging 10 to 12 hoors and some swingers costs me 800 including flight and and hotel.. Any ideas??

Great reporting Anonymous.

[Sullivan]

I did have an experience with salon dream, i had a girl at my apartment from then..they do home delivery too now the girl was not a wow but not bad either...a solid 7 out of 10 issues were...no English and no extra ,she was very friendly, smiling... genuinely smiling she had a good mood but she would not do anything " extra" no matter the $ , next day i txt the salon, asking if they have a girl who do extra...they said " no" only naked massage 😁 but to be fair the girl did a decent massage for a " erotic massage" they usually suck on that 😂😂

How much did they charge? I've been in touch with them about the two girl massage and they say that the salon itself is closed so I have to go outcall. What is advertised on their website at 3,200 incall is 6,000 outcall!

[maniaxx]

i had 1 girl over my place..2h for about 2000 uah or local money how they call it.. definitely not 6000 ) look at the website again..sais vip erotic massage 2 h 2500.. That's it..all night, 6 h it's 6000.. would not recommend that... they don't really do extra so..1-2 h good massage it's good.

[anonymous86273]

I can confirm the place is now closed for the time being and only offering outcalls.

[Hi88888888]

Are there any other masssge places withHE like salon dream that offer incall?

[Sullivan]

i had 1 girl over my place..2h for about 2000 uah or local money how they call it.. definitely not 6000 ) look at the website again..sais vip erotic massage 2 h 2500.. That's it..all night, 6 h it's 6000.. would not recommend that... they don't really do extra so..1-2 h good massage it's good.

Yeah, the website says 2h for 3,000 for one girl outcall so I presume a duo is twice that. Whereas for I call it states two girls for two hours is 3,500.

I might try to find some other incall venue.

[Sullivan]

I’ve even tried walking around Google Streetview but can’t find it. I know we went between two buildings and the place was an appartment building set behind the main street but that’s all I remember. It was also on the bottom floor, through an entrance and first right. The rest is a blur!

I've just been and it was fucking amazing.

I got a taxi driver to take me there, I wouldn't have found it otherwise. But the girls told me to come back without a taxi the next time.

It's through the archway in this Google link with the girl standing in it. When you get through the arch, there's a set of steps to your right. Ring 93k on the intercom.

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The taxi driver didn't deal with the money, 2,000 UAH directly to the girl for one hour. And another 200 to him for taking me there. That's about £6 so you might feel easier to get one to take you, but I'll be back and will go directly.

The apartment is very fancy but a bit faded. High ceilings, green wallpaper with gold patterns, wooden bookcases, leather couches.

Four girls came out, each with different qualities, each very rideable. I chose Ruslana, a 21 year old medical student who has, without doubt, the best set of tits that I've ever had my hands on.

The best FK from any SP I've ever had. A nice blue pill set me up for 40 minutes boning and then we lay in each others arms and kissed and talked for twenty minutes. I couldn't get it up again after that session. The best paid for sex I've ever had.

If you're in Kiev, go.

[good fella]

Hey Anonymous . great field reports.

Just wanted to ask you couple of things . we are planning a trip to kiev . Experienced punters . Been to most of Asia/Morrocco/south africa etc.

 - Have heard that they do not allow entry to certain nationalities like indians,turks , mediterranreans in the clubs ?? is that true. does your nationality impact on your holiday/girls/clubbing.

we are going for 7 days and would like to mainly pick up from clubs and stay in air bnb apartment.

we are late 30's of indian origin , pretty relaxed and spend decent money when going out ....if that helps

thanks for your inputs

[Royd30]

Hi Sullivan where did you take the taxi from and to, what address did you give taxi.
How far is it from independence square near Ukraine Hotel or even Arena city at bottom of main Kryschatyk St.
What services did the girls provide and any language issues.
Any other pictures of area or even girls or website

[Sullivan]

I took the taxi from the bottom of Mala Zhytomyrska, at the Maidan where it doubles back to Sofiivska.

I just asked the guy if he knows where there are girls. He said 2,500 for an hour. I said 2,000 and he said ok and got onto the phone. No idea what he said.

When he took me to the place, I gave him 200, then he was having a loud and long conversation with the madam so I'd imagine he got some kickback there.

With the girl I saw, there was very little English, and the madam didn't utter a word of it the whole time I was there. So it might need the intervention of a taxi driver to get them to open the door. I'm going to try unassisted tonight though.

As regards a website, I don't even know if the place has a name.

[Sullivan]

Update.

I went to Buddha bar last night.

It's a strange venue in that it's massive, with a big downstairs area, a big upstairs area, but only the middle bit with anyone in it.

Let me tell you, if you can't pull here, there's a problem. I met up with some guys from my Ryanair flight over.

I'm 42, too much of a belly, I was never a looker in my youth. Never mind now.

Got in there as a group of guys, get to the bar, have a drink, go back to the bar and offer to buy a group of girls a drink and they attach themselves to us.

Chatting away. I ended up having a good snogging session with my one. I'd say she was maybe ten years younger. I was pissed. This was 2am and I'd been on it since 8. If I had been sober, I'd say the night would have been ours. My marriage broke up last year so I haven't 'pulled' a girl since 1999! All I got was the snog and then had to go home as I was hammered.

One of the boys went and sat in a corner chatting and was wanked off by his girl!

Find a group of girls, say hello, and you're all set for the price of a gin and tonic.

I've got a dinner date lined up for tonight through tinder.

[theonlyfos]

No sorry can’t remember the name - It was just part of the hotel but you don’t need to be a guest of the hotel to use it. Private dance was probably £15 or so. Can’t imagine it was much more than that. I’ll probably pay them a visit shortly.

Never enquired as to takeaways. Once I’ve shot my load in there that’s me done for the night so never had any interest in bringing one back to mine as they’ll only be watching me sleep. Same with full service - never enquired but assume with the right girl it’s possible.

When did you last visit Tourist hotel? Does it still operate a 'club'? Are the privates in a room, or just curtains around a booth?

Any other good hotels with 'clubs'?

Due to visit Kiev in the next couple of weeks.

Thanks

[Wanking]

Update. 

One of the boys went and sat in a corner chatting and was wanked off by his girl!

Find a group of girls, say hello, and you're all set for the price of a gin and tonic.

I've got a dinner date lined up for tonight through tinder.

Good effort there Sulli..

Keep the reports coming.. Thanks

[Sullivan]

I've just been back to what I'm calling 93k. My directions above are spot on. I entered 93k on the intercom, a voice answered, I ask if they speak English and I was buzzed in.

When you get into the building, you take the first door on the right on the ground floor and it's then flat 93, which is on the right hand side.

There was only one girl working. A practically titlesss 22 year old. She told me her name but it was very short and I hardly remember it. Eea or Ila or something like that.

What's interesting is that she only charged me 1,600 UAH. 20% less than what I paid when I showed up in a taxi. So the taximan must get a 400 UAH commission. So don't take a taxi there. If you need more detail, let me know on here.

So the previous girl I saw there was a 9/10 in looks and service. This one wasn't the best. Maybe 7/10 looks, still very pretty, but there were a number of issues with service.

She wouldn't kiss at all.

She has the room pitch black and grumbled when I wanted to move the curtain to let some light in.

And finally, I had had three pints and 25mg of Sindenafil so went for a good forty minutes without popping. She started to get a bit pissed off, saying she was tired. To be fair, her fanny was fairly loose and I'm not the most well endowed. Although I was rock hard, at times it was like throwing a drinking straw up the channel tunnel. She finished me off with a combined hj/ow.

She's a tiny boney girl with no tits, which I can find sexy. I threw her round into every position I could think of. She took it all ways, an absolute pounding in them all. But she refused to do RCG. I thought at the time she thought I wanted to do her up the brown, but I explained what I wanted and she said no. When we were in CG I fingered her arse with no complaint.

The maid was a girl in her twenties, wearing civvies. I would probably rather have tapped that up.

So all in all I'd give her 60%. She was the only girl on. If I'd have had the line up from the other night and she was in it, I wouldn't have chosen her, but she'd be in the top half.

[Sullivan]

[Wanking]

Any hotels in kiev with working girls in the lobby?

[Royd30]

When i stayed both Ukraine hotel at independence square and Dnipero just around corner had working girls but I didn’t sample..due to family with me

[Sullivan]

I got a PM asking for more info on 93k.

If you get the Metro to Independence Square, Maidan, come out and with your back to the Ukraine Hotel and monument, walk towards McDonalds. Don't go up the road with McDs, but the one to the right of that. At the first corner there's a 24 hour shop. Take a left. Walk along that road and you'll come to an arch within about 50 Metres.

Go through the arch and there are cars parked. You'll see 4-5 steps and a door on the right.

Go up those steps to the intercom and dial 93k.

Once you're in the building take the first door on the right and there are two apartment doors. 93k is on the right hand side.

Take 2k in cash with 5 100s so if it is 2k you have enough. If it is 1,600 you have change. I had to ask for my change. If I had kept schtum, she would have kept the lot.

[Royd30]

Thanks Sullivan from memory that McDonald’s is like on a v shape with both sides going up the hill towards market and queen statue so is it to right of McDonald’s then up the hill any land marks or even a picture to help a fellow punter, name of 24 hour shop or what they sell. I gotta do Kiev within the next month also where did u get accommodation from ive only ever stayed at hotels and with family on outskirts...thanks

[Sullivan]

I just got an Airbnb. £100 for three nights.

Take a look at my post above. Does the link not being up a picture of the arch? I'm on an apple phone and it seems to work for me.

It should be easy using that link. If not, I'll find some other way.

The 24h shop just says 24h on the sign. Another idea is to go to O'Brien's Irish pub from Maidan, take a left, past the 24h shop and across the junction then the arch is about 75m up that street on the left hand side.

It's a No Entry so the taxis take a longer route there.

[Sullivan]

One more thing. It's an amazing city. The architecture is beautiful, the people friendly, the beer cheap. This is the first time I've come away specifically to punt. But I could do a city break here with a girl, go nowhere near 93k and have the time of my life.

[Royd30]

Brilliant mate..def will be on my way soon not this coming week but will def will be before end of April... and will def report....rgds

[Wanking]

When i stayed both Ukraine hotel at independence square and Dnipero just around corner had working girls but I didn’t sample..due to family with me

Thanks Royd..

Btw Sulli, how long more u there for?

Good luck tonight with the Tinder date..

[Sullivan]

Thanks Royd..

Btw Sulli, how long more u there for?

Good luck tonight with the Tinder date..

I'm coming home tomorrow. 9.55pm flight so I'll have a bit of time to check out some more of the city.

The tinder girl has just gone to the ladies so I'm on UKP! I don't think I'm going to get anything from her. It's after 1am here and she's getting tired.

I've enjoyed her company though.

[Sullivan]

Strange one. Absolutely no physical intimacy. Leaving the taxi, I bent in for a kiss on the lips and she turned to present her cheek.

But she wants to meet tomorrow at midday.

I think she can fuck off.

I’ll spend tomorrow on my own, scoping the place out. And might spend a final 2 grand at 93k.

Yes she’s pretty, and ten years younger than me. But if, after having bought her dinner in one of the nicer restaurants in Kiev, and then having gone for drinks in a hipster bar, and you don’t even get a peck on the lips then why bother?

[Jimbo1984]

One more thing. It's an amazing city. The architecture is beautiful, the people friendly, the beer cheap. This is the first time I've come away specifically to punt. But I could do a city break here with a girl, go nowhere near 93k and have the time of my life.

+1 from me, agree 100%

Great reports btw, fantastic contribution and will come in handy even for somebody like me who has been to Kiev twice this year already!

[Jimbo1984]

Strange one. Absolutely no physical intimacy. Leaving the taxi, I bent in for a kiss on the lips and she turned to present her cheek.

But she wants to meet tomorrow at midday.

I think she can fuck off.

I’ll spend tomorrow on my own, scoping the place out. And might spend a final 2 grand at 93k.

Yes she’s pretty, and ten years younger than me. But if, after having bought her dinner in one of the nicer restaurants in Kiev, and then having gone for drinks in a hipster bar, and you don’t even get a peck on the lips then why bother?

Yeah, drop her like a hot turd. Shes obviously trying to set you up as a 'beta provider' whilst probably taking it up the ass from Mehmet the Turkish mafioso and/or Taras the 6'5 army conscript. Ukrainian girls are nasty pieces of work, they have a ruthless survival instinct, proceed with caution for anything beyond P4P.

[Sullivan]

I got chatting to some English guys last night who went to the Adele massage parlour.

One hour massage, not only HE, they had HR at the beginning and the end. 2,000 bucks so £60.

They said that the girls on offer were the prettiest they'd ever seen in their life. A line up of 8 or ten. One guy ended up tipping 1,000 bucks, not realising it was £30. But isn't that worried about it as the service was so good.

I might check the place out later.

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I'm not sure if it is worth it though as each session in 93k has started with a massage. For the same price as getting by end away and all I get is HJ. Better to spend my ££ to do what really matters instead of pretending that a HJ is what we want.

[Sullivan]

I ended up going to Adele's. It's near Golden Gate.

The place looks ropey from the outside. A rickety lift in a shabby block of flats. But once you're in that flat, it's plush.

I was given a menu and choose a two girl one hour massage with a happy begining and happy ending. 2,100 bucks which is £65.

The the girls came out. There were maybe 12 of them. All of them are 8s or 9s out of 10.

I chose Sophia and Slava. It started with me and Slava in a shower. She gave me a good cleaning. Then into the bedroom. Sophia gave me a hj while Slava oiled herself up and rubbed herself over my chest, kissing, tits in mouth. I blew my load quite quickly.

Then maybe 30 minutes of naked massage with plenty of them sitting on me, I was making occasional strokes in all the right places.

Then a Slava HJ with Sophia oiled up and on me. As you can imagine, that took quite a while longer to get to the finish line.

I was covered in oil, and Sophia offered to clean me down in the shower. But by that stage I was spent so I just showered myself down.

Back in, changed, then Sophia went to make sure the coast was clear and Slava stayed with me, now wearing lingerie and a gown with her name on it.

Sophia comes back, takes me to the door, a passionate kiss with each of them and then I went on my merry way.

I'd say Sophia was an 8/10, Slava at least a 9. Sophia was 23, Slava 24. But there were so many girls I could have chosen. Almost too much choice. As I was leaving a saw a few more and maybe had a bit of buyers remorse for Sophia. I should have gone for two 9s.



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[Sullivan]

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In the grand scheme of things, £150 for five girls for an hour including a bottle of champagne isn't so bad! £18 for a half hour rub and tug, £30 if you want two of them.

[anonymous86273]

I've just been and it was fucking amazing.

I got a taxi driver to take me there, I wouldn't have found it otherwise. But the girls told me to come back without a taxi the next time.

It's through the archway in this Google link with the girl standing in it. When you get through the arch, there's a set of steps to your right. Ring 93k on the intercom.

External Link/Members Only



The taxi driver didn't deal with the money, 2,000 UAH directly to the girl for one hour. And another 200 to him for taking me there. That's about £6 so you might feel easier to get one to take you, but I'll be back and will go directly.

The apartment is very fancy but a bit faded. High ceilings, green wallpaper with gold patterns, wooden bookcases, leather couches.

Four girls came out, each with different qualities, each very rideable. I chose Ruslana, a 21 year old medical student who has, without doubt, the best set of tits that I've ever had my hands on.

The best FK from any SP I've ever had. A nice blue pill set me up for 40 minutes boning and then we lay in each others arms and kissed and talked for twenty minutes. I couldn't get it up again after that session. The best paid for sex I've ever had.

If you're in Kiev, go.

That’s the one!

[anonymous86273]

When did you last visit Tourist hotel? Does it still operate a 'club'? Are the privates in a room, or just curtains around a booth?

Any other good hotels with 'clubs'?

Due to visit Kiev in the next couple of weeks.

Thanks

Both. There is a curtained off section but not a lot happens here. They have a room out the back which is more private.

[anonymous86273]

Hey Anonymous . great field reports.

Just wanted to ask you couple of things . we are planning a trip to kiev . Experienced punters . Been to most of Asia/Morrocco/south africa etc.

 - Have heard that they do not allow entry to certain nationalities like indians,turks , mediterranreans in the clubs ?? is that true. does your nationality impact on your holiday/girls/clubbing.

we are going for 7 days and would like to mainly pick up from clubs and stay in air bnb apartment.

we are late 30's of indian origin , pretty relaxed and spend decent money when going out ....if that helps

thanks for your inputs

Despite many claims, racism is very rife out there. I’ve witnessed some Indian lads not being allowed in because of their colour - the doorman actually said it was because of the colour of their face so there was no misunderstanding. However I’ve seen a few black guys in the same club so guess it depends on how racist the doorman is on the night.

Pretty sad state of affairs and probably my only criticism of the country.

[Sullivan]

Despite many claims, racism is very rife out there. I’ve witnessed some Indian lads not being allowed in because of their colour - the doorman actually said it was because of the colour of their face so there was no misunderstanding. However I’ve seen a few black guys in the same club so guess it depends on how racist the doorman is on the night.

Pretty sad state of affairs and probably my only criticism of the country.

The girl I met last night told me that the far right is very active and that BAME people, as will as gay people could find themselves being targeted.

I met a mixed race guy from England and he had no problem getting into the Buddha Bar with us. And I saw one or two black people about. But it is very monocultural. To be honest, I felt like I had a 'non-local' sign because every hustler, taxi driver and beggar saw me coming and approached me in English.

[Sullivan]

Anonymous,
What age group are you if its OK to ask?

Im 49, have lost weight and feeling fit at the moment. Whats the freebie scene like for blokes around 50 I wonder?

Also im trying to figure how this would compare to my usual German fkk /swingers trip where 5 days banging 10 to 12 hoors and some swingers costs me 800 including flight and and hotel.. Any ideas??

Great reporting Anonymous.

I had two visits to 93k and one massage duo and spent 5,700 which is about £160. That's having had three hours of action and getting my hands on some of the fittest girls I've ever seen.

5 days for an Airbnb will cost £150. If you were to go to 93k and not have to pay taxi commission then 10 hours would be 16k, maybe £480. And my flight was £35 return. So £700.

So maybe a couple of hundred less than Germany, but I think you're going to get better girls in Kiev. Plus every pint will cost you a quid, dinners out a fiver, Uber trips less than £2. To maintain yourself in Ukraine will be so much less expensive than Germany.

[Royd30]

Ok Sullivan I’m in off to Kiev 02apr back 04Apr with a mate providing he get his days off. Maybe when u get back I can get some more info from you. You sold it to me...rgds

[Sullivan]

I'm back to porridge already!

Any questions, just ask here and I will answer if i can.

[Sullivan]

Ok everyone, my last post of advice, unless I look back and there are questions.

Checking my Nationwide statements today, when I've been to an ATM, 2,000 UAH has cost me £59.17. Meaning one hour in 93k without a taxi driver costs just over £47.

To be honest, I think I'm going to give up on mongering in the UK. I'm back to Nürnberg in a few weeks and will go to a FKK, but with value like I've just had in Kiev, I can't be bothered with shelling out hundreds in London to be treated like shit.

[CockMonster]

To be honest, I think I'm going to give up on mongering in the UK. I'm back to Nürnberg in a few weeks and will go to a FKK, but with value like I've just had in Kiev, I can't be bothered with shelling out hundreds in London to be treated like shit.

Here here. Add to that the fact you can eat out and party like a king in Kiev once a month for less than the price of two average stuck up girls here - and I won’t be bothering with UK much any more.

[anonymous86273]

Here here. Add to that the fact you can eat out and party like a king in Kiev once a month for less than the price of two average stuck up girls here - and I won’t be bothering with UK much any more.

THIS

With Ryan Air now flying here pushing the flight prices down (last trip was £14.99 each way) and with the cost of living out there so little I’ve almost given up punting over here in the UK.