Camila Raine - Sandiacre

[GSR-MAN]

So just out of interest, if a SP clearly indicates the punt is over but you have plenty of time left and you're not done.....what do you guys say/do?........and how has it ended?

I suppose the reason why I don't say anything is because I wouldn't want to be greeted by their "security" if they have any....and I could do without a argument as well to be honest.

[vw]

So just out of interest, if a SP clearly indicates the punt is over but you have plenty of time left and you're not done.....what do you guys say/do?........and how has it ended?

I suppose the reason why I don't say anything is because I wouldn't want to be greeted by their "security" if they have any....and I could do without a argument as well to be honest.

Security would not want a fuss, if there is any in the first place. 

this review mentions the most extreme punters go to to get a refund

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=195140.0

Not my style personally. 

[Picti]

Security would not want a fuss, if there is any in the first place. 

this review mentions the most extreme punters go to to get a refund

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=195140.0

Not my style personally.

The review you quote makes for very uncomfortable and  disturbing reading!

Dannys - remember that punting is a transactional contract. You do your bit by turning up clean, polite, with correct cash, don't push boundaries, etc. If you fulfil your part of the agreement and she changes the conditions of the punt then simply mention it, ask if the situation can be resolved, or if she wants to shorten the duration then request a proportionate refund. I would keep it civil rather than confrontational. I would never condone aggression unless physically threatened / endangered, and where the threat of harm to me was genuine.

If she doesn't respond appropriately then leave and put up a review on here. For me there are levels of negative. A negative involving a poor experience where the punter has also mentioned and tried to resolve the situation , and where the WG has responded badly is more concerning than the poor experience in isolation.

Hope this helps 

[mrfishyfoo]

Yes, I was very tempted, and could be again under the right circumstances. However, any suggestion of a formulaic, mechanical, detached punt deters me. I want to feel that my money was well spent and that means a great overall experience, and it was very well spent elsewhere.

With regard to Camilla I'll watch with interest to see whether she addresses these matters appropriately.

Why should she care ??? 

She's got a queue of cunt struck regulars that are quite happy with her service. 

[vw]

Why should she care ??? 

She's got a queue of cunt struck regulars that are quite happy with her service. 

Also she will know the celebrity reviewers are coming, so knows when to try harder for the band aid review. 

[Picti]

Why should she care ??? 

She's got a queue of cunt struck regulars that are quite happy with her service. 

I'm in no position to know or even presume that. There are also punters (not all) who've reviewed her positively who I wouldn't consider to be "cunt struck".

The current concerns and the impression they give would deter me. What others do, and how they spend their money isn't my concern.

[mrfishyfoo]

Also she will know the celebrity reviewers are coming, so knows when to try harder for the band aid review.

Too late for that now. 

She's shown her true colours so any repair job will get ripped apart. 

[vw]

Too late for that now. 

She's shown her true colours so any repair job will get ripped apart. 

well was on about the punter getting all the attention and replies on the media i linked.  That is no coincidence. 

[mrfishyfoo]

I'm in no position to know or even presume that. There are also punters (not all) who've reviewed her positively who I wouldn't consider to be "cunt struck".

The current concerns and the impression they give would deter me. What others do, and how they spend their money isn't my concern.

I generalised, maybe unfairly, based on the amount of, what I perceive to be, adoration for this pro$$ie.

IMHO a good pro$$ie WILL treat all her punters as if they are potential reviewers. This clearly isn't the csse here though is it.

[vw]

This clearly isn't the csse here though is it.

Clearly, seem applying to review is a good strategy for good punts, but not for good reviews IMO. 

[HailWood]

Almost impossible for any punter to see Camilla and submit a review at the moment. Any positives will be slaughtered and/or treated with suspicion.

[Picti]

I generalised, maybe unfairly, based on the amount of, what I perceive to be, adoration for this pro$$ie.

IMHO a good pro$$ie WILL treat all her punters as if they are potential reviewers. This clearly isn't the csse here though is it.

I'd say that under reasonable circumstances a good WG should consistently provide a good service because she's being well paid to do so. That's irrespective of whether or not there's a prospective review, as that should have no bearing on the level of service.

[vw]

Almost impossible for any punter to see Camilla and submit a review at the moment. Any positives will be slaughtered and/or treated with suspicion.

Are you sulking?   

[Picti]

Almost impossible for any punter to see Camilla and submit a review at the moment. Any positives will be slaughtered and/or treated with suspicion.

We'll you certainly shouldn't 

That's a pity because the overall opinion seems to be that she's generally good. My concern is that there are also consistent statements of variability in performance and attitude, and I have to consider the possible liability of seeing her on a "bad" day,  and leaving with the negative feeling of money not well spent. With more consistent and reliable options available it's an easy decision. It's up to her whether she wants to change those perceptions.

[mrfishyfoo]

I'd say that under reasonable circumstances a good WG should consistently provide a good service because she's being well paid to do so. That's irrespective of whether or not there's a prospective review, as that should have no bearing on the level of service.

My point exactly albeit you worded it better.   

[Picti]

My point exactly albeit you worded it better.   

I'm not as angry at her as you seem to be. Have you had bad dealings?

[mrfishyfoo]

I'm not as angry at her as you seem to be. Have you had bad dealings?

Yep. 

[vw]

Yep. 

Do you have a link to any info on that. 

[HailWood]

Are you sulking?   

Nah, just offering some friendly advise to those “celebrity punters” that you mentioned. 

[mrfishyfoo]

Do you have a link to any info on that.

It's on here somewhere.

[Pacho]

Nah, just offering some friendly advise to those “celebrity punters” that you mentioned. 

Thankgoodness for the celebrity punter discount card. Saved me a few quid i can tell ya. 

[Brazilian Martian]

Thankgoodness for the celebrity punter discount card. Saved me a few quid i can tell ya. 

Pacho from what I've read so far you do come across as a CUNT  !!! no offence meant of course 

[Pacho]

No offence taken, it's a pre-requisite here I am trying to emulate my mentor, head of moderation, Sir VW. 

[vw]

Pacho from what I've read so far you do come across as a CUNT  !!! no offence meant of course 

He has those letters after his name.   

[Picti]

Yep. 

Ah. I checked reviews, but guess it was something else.

[Brazilian Martian]

No offence taken, it's a pre-requisite here I am trying to emulate my mentor, head of moderation, Sir VW. 

No problems Harpoon

[mrfishyfoo]

Ah. I checked reviews, but guess it was something else.

Goes all the way back to when I red carded Paige Wilson.

There's too much collusion between the established lasses in the EM for my liking.

I posted about it at the time.

[vw]

Goes all the way back to when I red carded Paige Wilson.

There's too much collusion between the established lasses in the EM for my liking.

I posted about it at the time.

Certainly is some on display on they media, would not shock me to know there is collusion with punters too. 

[HailWood]

It would be naive to think lasses don’t collude where they know each other whether personally or through doing duos/parties. I doubt this is an East Mids phenomenon either.

[vw]

It would be naive to think lasses don’t collude where they know each other whether personally or through doing duos/parties. I doubt this is an East Mids phenomenon either.

Would be naive to think lasses don't collude with celebrity punters.

It's nut just a EM problem that's for sure, I agree with that.

[HailWood]

Would be naive to think lasses don't collude with celebrity punters.

It's nut just a EM problem that's for sure, I agree with that.

Are we talking A-listers or the caste of TOWIE?   

[vw]

Are we talking A-listers or the caste of TOWIE?   

Robin hood men in tights extras in this case.   

[RedKettle]

So just out of interest, if a SP clearly indicates the punt is over but you have plenty of time left and you're not done.....what do you guys say/do?........and how has it ended?

I suppose the reason why I don't say anything is because I wouldn't want to be greeted by their "security" if they have any....and I could do without a argument as well to be honest.

Actually I would tend to follow your approach and just go, but not come back. Depends on circumstance but if you have to persuade a girl to carry on that does not bode well for the service. In any case I tend to be a one pop chap nowadays and once I have done that I am not really that bothered about hanging around.

More of an issue for me is where I want to build up slow to coming near the end of my time and they clearly want me to be done 20 minutes into an hour. Initially I will remind them that I said come once near the end but if she keeps trying to rush me it kills the mood and I let it finish, leave early and not go back.