_Sexy Babe__ Swindon - major negative, do not visit her!!!

[Sparta Prada]

This review will not be in my usual style with ratings for reasons that become very clear.

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I had finished a meeting in Swindon and decided to see who was available. Can’t recall now who was my first choice but she wasn’t answering my calls so I did a search on AW and came across this profile which promises a lot. As I was browsing on my small screen smartphone I didn’t check UKP, a shame as I would have seen the negative review from Sinz. I am sure I did check the AW feedback and am positive that - at the time - there was nothing there, although there are some uncomplimentary words that are there now.

Anyway I didn’t see that so went ahead with the call, and here’s where I missed the first red flag: on the day the location of the profile was listed as Belgium. This didn’t really register with me when I called and a polite friendly sounding lady answered my questions in a confident manner, I asked if she did a GFE and she replied this was her speciality. I agreed to see the girl for £60/30 minutes.

I arrived at the street, received the door number, and made my way to the house. Once there I knocked on the door a few times without any answer, sent a couple of texts, finally the door opened but this meant I was loitering at the front door for around 4 or 5 minutes before being let in.

The girl was very scrawny. Just over 5’ tall, very skinny, dirty blonde hair, pale white skin, piercing eyes, not great teeth. These photos posted by Sinz is the same girl:

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Not my type but I have always been someone who valued performance over looks and maybe she would be a great SP! So I stayed but here’s where the next warning came. Having just got into the hallway one of the first things she said was ‘pay me now’. I looked at her, and she repeated her request. She (I can’t remember what name she had so let’s just refer to her as ‘she’) said that she had a couple of guys run away without paying after providing a service so she insists on payment before going upstairs. I gave her the money, used the downstairs toilet, then went upstairs to the bedroom. It was a fair sized room, with her laptop playing some EE songs in the background.

I stripped off, she partially undressed leaving her bra and knickers on. We both get on the bed. Having explained on the phone I was after a GFE I move towards her for a bit of a cuddle, and attempt to remove her bra. This results in her pushing my arms away, I ask why she’s done this, her reply is that she spends a lot of money on her underwear and doesn’t want any danger of me damaging them! I asked how much the bra is, she says £60, from Ann Summers! She unhooks her Ann Summers bra for me.

There’s a series of questions about what I do, where I live, which I answer falsely as it’s clear from her mannerisms (I’d say that she may be using drugs, she seemed a bit paranoid and hyper) that she’s a bit unhinged.

She starts to aggressively use a wet wipe on my dick, saying she doesn’t want to pick up anything from any ‘dirty girls’ I have seen before her, her tone being very righteous as though she’s the fucking Virgin Mary. The BJ is shallow, and with the uneasy atmosphere I wasn’t feeling aroused at all. When she asks why I’m not getting hard I reply that I asked for a GFE and this experience was anything but that. She repeats that she’s different from all the other girls (yep, too right!) and that I was in her room I had to do what she said. I replied that as the customer I had every right to to get what I asked and paid for, which was the GFE on her profile and what I requested on the phone.

At this point she says ‘ok you will get a GFE’, and starts kissing me open mouthed, initially using her tongue very rapidly to the point where she’s almost biting my tongue. It’s all getting a bit weird. She pushes me off and tells me she will give me an amazing BJ. The BJ is still shallow at first, then she pulls back my foreskin and is literally biting my cock, and it’s not sensual or comfortable at all and I push her off me.

She asks why I have done that, I say that this is not a GFE, in fact it’s been an awful experience. She starts to criticise me and my sexual performance in a very sneering way, saying what an awful guy I must be to resort to paying for sex...

And that’s when I exploded. I got right into her face and shouted at her, telling the girl that I couldn’t give a fuck about what she thought and she’s a liar. She hopped off the bed but I cornered her and continued my tirade at full volume, making sure that my breath was on her face, and I could see her cowering as she was getting back a bit of her own medicine. To be honest I was in full control and all I wanted was to get my £60 back, which she agreed to.

This girl is unstable, and the profile is a pack of lies. Do not think about seeing her.

[SeekingtheTruth]

Got to admit, that's a bit of an uncomfortable read.

The way she acted during the booking indicates that she may have some mental issues but the way you reacted was bang out of order.

Backing her into a corner while you shout in her face? Having her so scared she is cowering? Surely there are better ways to get your point across.

[Sparta Prada]

Got to admit, that's a bit of an uncomfortable read.

The way she acted during the booking indicates that she may have some mental issues but the way you reacted was bang out of order.

Backing her into a corner while you shout in her face? Having her so scared she is cowering? Surely there are better ways to get your point across.

If she hadn't resorted to being personal with her insults I probably would have let it fly, put it down to experience. She was effectively trying to verbally bully me during the meet, I decided I wasn't having any of it. Maybe next time I should try semaphore or morse code to get my point across?

As the title of the review says, the main point is to warn others not to see her.

[-Petite Pippa-]

This is an extremely disturbing read. You cornered a young, very petite 5ft, obviously mentally unstable, eastern European girl? You got so close to her that you made sure she felt your breath on her face?

If you knew from the get go it wasnt going to be the gfe booking you were hoping for and you thought she was under the influence,  why stay long enough for her to cause you such anger?

Not excusing her rubbish service. But no one, no matter what job title, deserves to be treated like that.

Fair play to her giving you back the money, but bloody hell, I would have given you the money back and then called the police.

Both of you sound 

[Sparta Prada]

This is an extremely disturbing read. You cornered a young, very petite 5ft, obviously mentally unstable, eastern European girl? You got so close to her that you made sure she felt your breath on her face?

If you knew from the get go it wasnt going to be the gfe booking you were hoping for and you thought she was under the influence,  why stay long enough for her to cause you such anger?

Not excusing her rubbish service. But no one, no matter what job title, deserves to be treated like that.

Fair play to her giving you back the money, but bloody hell, I would have given you the money back and then called the police.

Both of you sound 

No way she would have given back the money without someone standing up for themselves. If you go back to the start of the meet, the first thing she did as soon as I stepped through the door was ask for money. Does that sound like someone who would have been willing to return the dough later if I had asked politely?

As punters we can all have bad experiences, I should know as I have had more than my fair share of them and with these I just put it down to experience and move on. When a girl starts insulting me as well? Are you saying that any punter - who was just looking for a pleasant time and behaved impeccably up until she started insulting me - deserves to be treated like this? If I started insulting anyone for no good reason I would fully expect that person to come back at me. Thankfully I don't insult people as a general rule, but when someone does it to me then I'll come back at them.

[Chatte Noir]

This is an extremely disturbing read. You cornered a young, very petite 5ft, obviously mentally unstable, eastern European girl? You got so close to her that you made sure she felt your breath on her face?

If you knew from the get go it wasnt going to be the gfe booking you were hoping for and you thought she was under the influence,  why stay long enough for her to cause you such anger?

Not excusing her rubbish service. But no one, no matter what job title, deserves to be treated like that.

Fair play to her giving you back the money, but bloody hell, I would have given you the money back and then called the police.

Both of you sound 

If the WG thinks she can rob punters without consequences then she needed a wake up call . If WGs don’t want to provide the agreed service that’s fine but don’t take the money .

[Ed Ward]

Wow.

[-Petite Pippa-]

No where in the review does it say that she refused to give him the money back. In fact it says she handed it over pretty much without fuss.
No one robbed anyone.
If at any point she did refuse to give it back I'd understand him losing it a bit. But really? His extreme reaction?

[Ron Swanson]

Difficult one this ... as I get how frustrating it can be to hand over the cash and then be met with an awful service. Had it a fair few times and when suggesting I wanted to leave and have my money back had some of the Eastern European escorts go off on one and start ringing what I assume to be a European thug. It's moment like this where you can feel quite unsafe ...

Didn't sound like there was this type of suggestion here. And I guess the question is do we think this type of service ... booking escorts ... is so detached from the norm that someone can treat the working girl like that? I don't think personally anyone should be treated like that and this review was a difficult read. I've been miffed a few times ... but generally I see it as my own fault for either not researching the girl effectively or listening to my cock and ignoring the red flags ... take it on the chin and consider it a lesson learnt. Shouldn't be threatening a girl like that

[Ron Swanson]

Mind you should also say thanks for the review. At least we know to stay away

[CheeseBoard]

+1

‘she said was ‘pay me now’. I looked at her, and she repeated her request. She (I can’t remember what name she had so let’s just refer to her as ‘she’) said that she had a couple of guys run away without paying after providing a service so she insists on payment before going upstairs. ‘

Sounds like she was nasty to other punters who also requested / got their money back.

Thanks for the review SP

[MaxDeane]

Gotta say that this was one of the tougher reads I’ve had on here for a while.

Yes, it sounds like the services were well below par even for a poorly reviewed EE WG. However, The warning signs of an impending shite punt appear to have been on display from the door knock onwards.

If you’ve been partaking in this particular hobby for any length of time you’re going to have something close to this type of rubbish happen.

Although I would have thought that an OP with this level of experience would not only have sniffed out the trouble to come but would have found a different way to handle the situation.

The description of the confrontation is extremely difficult to justify no matter what the circumstances.

As for the OP getting robbed, by the sounds of it he got the WG naked and had his cock in her mouth at least twice before calling off the meet.

[-Petite Pippa-]

He got his money back. No one was robbed and she didn't, at any point, try and keep the money.

[Sparta Prada]

Thanks for all the replies so far.

With reference to how I handled the situation, I quote again what I said earlier:

If she hadn't resorted to being personal with her insults I probably would have let it fly, put it down to experience. She was effectively trying to verbally bully me during the meet, I decided I wasn't having any of it.

To repeat, if she was a WG who had no enthusiasm, wasn't providing the services that had been agreed on the phone, I would have just finished the punt, got dressed, left and post a negative review on here.

Remember that up until the point where I shouted at the girl all I had done was: confirm services, made booking in good faith, turned up on time, paid money upon request, lie back expecting the magic to happen but it didn't. But I was courteous throughout, even when the it was clear the service promised on the phone was not forthcoming. So up until that moment, had I done anything to warrant being insulted by a WG?

IMO the girl crossed the line when she decided to insult me. If I had been an absolute cunt then yes I would think being verbally insulted by a WG would be justified. But I hadn't even been a sarky idiot up until the moment. I think the sheer audacity of the girl insulting me triggered something inside me, and all I wanted to do was show she shouldn't be doing that to any decently behaved punter, because what if it was someone else who wasn't afraid to use their fists, rape the girl, maybe knife her?

Asking for the money back probably wasn't at the forefront of my mind when I exploded, but the words just came out of my mouth and she agreed to it. However I do not think she would have given the cash back if I had just politely complained that she wasn't delivering based on her character and behaviour, she would have just told me that it's my tough luck and that I wasn't getting a penny back.

The main purpose of the review was to tell you of my experience, and - regardless whether you agree with my actions or not - I think most of you are thankful for that.

[Chatte Noir]

He got his money back. No one was robbed and she didn't, at any point, try and keep the money.

Only after he lost it with her . Sorry I don’t believe for one instant she would have given it back otherwise .
Maybe she will be more honest or get out of escorting if it was a bit unpleasant for her .

[Cunning Punt]

Generally I see it as my own fault for either not researching the girl effectively or listening to my cock and ignoring the red flags ... take it on the chin and consider it a lesson learnt. Shouldn't be threatening a girl like that

There was certainly some comment on here and there was even visible derogatory feedback on AW (which is very rare), so there were indeed red flags.

I met her a few days ago and was in shock SUCH A RUDE AND HORRIBLE girl ,she lied about service and prices as well !!!every person should avoid her

It's precisely because the vast majority of guys don't say anything, don't ask for their money back and just meekly leave that these fraudsters keep getting away with scamming hundreds of punters.

He doesn't seem to have actually threatened her, but shouted at her - yes, a bit aggressively but I'm afraid a bit of confrontation and returning money back is the only thing that will hit home to these fraudsters. She has clearly done it to countless other poor punters.

No where in the review does it say that she refused to give him the money back. In fact it says she handed it over pretty much without fuss.
No one robbed anyone.
If at any point she did refuse to give it back I'd understand him losing it a bit. But really? His extreme reaction?

I'm afraid your rush to stick up for a fellow sex worker is clouding your judgment of reality.

Only after he lost it with her . Sorry I don’t believe for one instant she would have given it back otherwise .
Maybe she will be more honest or get out of escorting if it was a bit unpleasant for her .

Exactly. Hopefully this will make her rethink her choice of career.

[Sparta Prada]

I would have given you the money back and then called the police.

Please explain what crime has been committed to warrant calling the police?

[-Petite Pippa-]

Please explain what crime has been committed to warrant calling the police?

I've never been in a situation like that but I thought perhaps;

Intimidation. Intimidation (also called cowing) is intentional behavior that "would cause a person of ordinary sensibilities" to fear injury or harm. ... Threat, criminal threatening (or threatening behavior) is the crime of intentionally or knowingly putting another person in fear of bodily injury.

But re reading the review, she obviously didn't have "ordinary sensibilities".

So it would be a waste of police time and no crime was committed.

Apologies.

[-Petite Pippa-]

Didn't intend for it to sound like I was sticking up for her. I also didn't realize how common it is for punters to get ripped off by SPs. 

[SeekingtheTruth]

I've never been in a situation like that but I thought perhaps;

Intimidation. Intimidation (also called cowing) is intentional behavior that "would cause a person of ordinary sensibilities" to fear injury or harm. ... Threat, criminal threatening (or threatening behavior) is the crime of intentionally or knowingly putting another person in fear of bodily injury.

But re reading the review, she obviously didn't have "ordinary sensibilities".

So it would be a waste of police time and no crime was committed.

Apologies.

Intimidation is only an offence in the U.S AFAIK but it wouldn't surprise me if the cops tried it on as a public order offence.

[Sparta Prada]

I've never been in a situation like that but I thought perhaps;

Intimidation. Intimidation (also called cowing) is intentional behavior that "would cause a person of ordinary sensibilities" to fear injury or harm. ... Threat, criminal threatening (or threatening behavior) is the crime of intentionally or knowingly putting another person in fear of bodily injury.

But re reading the review, she obviously didn't have "ordinary sensibilities".

So it would be a waste of police time and no crime was committed.

Apologies.

Apology accepted. Obviously what happened was spur-of-the-moment, and there was no intent (pre-meditated or otherwise) for any harm to come to the girl.

As for guys getting ripped-off, unfortunately it does happen a lot. Most negative reviews on UKP are probably based on misleading profiles where the services bear no relation to the AW likes list, B&S, no shows. This is where UKP is so helpful to us guys where by sharing our experiences it helps us to avoid girls like this one. I see you have just received your first review, so conversely you will now get enquiries from genuine guys which is great for you and great for punters alike!

[Chatte Noir]

Didn't intend for it to sound like I was sticking up for her. I also didn't realize how common it is for punters to get ripped off by SPs. 

Unfortunately it is very common , I would say about 50% of the time punters are ripped off .
On the positive side there are some really lovely, honest , fun girls who are worth every penny they earn .

[ukgeeza]

usually a lurker but physically intimidating a small girl?

bet you wouldnt have done it to a man your size

[Sparta Prada]

usually a lurker but physically intimidating a small girl?

bet you wouldnt have done it to a man your size

Regardless of the person's sex, height, nationality, build, etc if I feel I have been wronged then I won't hesitate to argue back. And I find it odd that other punters that have commented seem to think it's ok for a fellow punter not to stand up for themselves. I reckon these types of operations will carry on raking in your hard earned cash while the majority of fellas let them get away with it; if more people actually took a stand maybe these types of brothels will slink away as they are not making decent money anymore?

And by the way, if the girl is reasonable I will also be reasonable: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=175017.0

[Chatte Noir]

usually a lurker but physically intimidating a small girl?

bet you wouldnt have done it to a man your size

What would you have done ?

[vw]

usually a lurker but physically intimidating a small girl?

bet you wouldnt have done it to a man your size

Bet he would you sad prick.

[PeachyAssFan]

Bet he would you sad prick.

+1. You are too polite VW. I’d have said fuck off

[Cunning Punt]

usually a lurker but physically intimidating a small girl?

bet you wouldnt have done it to a man your size

Right, so your long-awaited first post in 15 months of being a leech on here - and you slag off a fellow punter who has actually written a review, which is more than you've bothered to do. 

And even then, you get it rather wrong. He didn't "physically intimidate" her; he shouted at her - as has been said - even if he went a bit over the top.

However, getting bolshie with her was justified - as we are when we tell you to fuck off.

[vw]

+1. You are too polite VW. I’d have said fuck off

Well admin left him a nice banning reason.   

[NigelF]

Didn't intend for it to sound like I was sticking up for her. I also didn't realize how common it is for punters to get ripped off by SPs. 

As others have suggested, unfortunately it is quite common. I had a very bad experience less than 48 hours ago, see here: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=196097.0

I only got a half-refund and I consider that to be fairly "successful", certainly compared to some other experiences reported on here.

Regardless of the person's sex, height, nationality, build, etc if I feel I have been wronged then I won't hesitate to argue back. And I find it odd that other punters that have commented seem to think it's ok for a fellow punter not to stand up for themselves. I reckon these types of operations will carry on raking in your hard earned cash while the majority of fellas let them get away with it; if more people actually took a stand maybe these types of brothels will slink away as they are not making decent money anymore?

And by the way, if the girl is reasonable I will also be reasonable: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=175017.0

+1

[Lambohead]

Sorry I don't agree he should of got money back, services were given so you should have got money back

[Lambohead]

Shouldn't got any money back

[Ron Swanson]

Sorry I don't agree he should of got money back, services were given so you should have got money back

I don't think that was ever the contentious point here. He absolutely should have got his money back ... the debate was over whether his reaction was appropriate. If a girl advertises a GFE and then had no intention of providing one this is the girl not providing the service the client has just handed over a large wad of cash to. If a girl is mechanical, distracted, and not interested this is not a GFE and there is no excuse to advertise this. There are plenty of girls out there who make it clear they don't kiss, don't do oral without, don't allow fingers etc .... and it these things are important to the client they don't book. The moment a girl uses a fake attribute to lure a client through the door, they lose a lot of sympathy if a client gets disguntled.

I was always on the fence about this ... in black and white I felt uncomfortable reading about someone getting in a young girls face ... but I wasn't there ... I hadn't just been conned out of money ... and I can understand ... having been conned before ... how it can make your blood boil. At the end of the day, if this girl had stolen his wallet in the street and he reacted that way no one would question it. And we should all remember that both parties in these transactions are putting themselves in vulnerable situations so both parties should be honest and respectful. If not you reap what you sow. If a client goes into a booking and is the one being rude or aggressive, he too will warrant being kicked out with zero refund.

So in short ... damn right he should have got his money back. You pay for any service in any walk of life and it's provision is lacklustre, you get a refund

[vw]

Sorry I don't agree he should of got money back, services were given so you should have got money back

Nobody gives a fuck that you think white knight leech.   

[vw]

Shouldn't got any money back

so you are a prossie pretending to be a punter, what a sad pathetic individual you are. 

[Chatte Noir]

Sorry I don't agree he should of got money back, services were given so you should have got money back

But not the services promised , you barely literate dimwit.

[AVFC1982]

Not a nice read at all. It’s not nice being fleeced. It’s happened to me twice. I think the moral of the story is if it looks bad from the off don’t be afraid to walk. A review on here rarely wrong too

[The_Don]

The OP added some pictures via a quote.


Sinz also punted/reviewed this W/G

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Visit Again : NEVER - put me off for now, I am sure I will bounce back. I barely rate negative, but this one was beyond redemption. AVOID this skank.

 

[Cunning Punt]

so you are a prossie pretending to be a punter, what a sad pathetic individual you are. 

I did think afterwards - before Admin said that - that on top of the lack of posts, the way the post was written and its tone...

usually a lurker but physically intimidating a small girl?

bet you wouldnt have done it to a man your size

...made me think a woman had written it, so either a prossie or a not allowed monitor.

The OP added some pictures via a quote.


Sinz also punted/reviewed this W/G
 

Good detective work, Don. That's one of the many fantastic things about this site - however much a prossie/Sergei tries to ditch her past, there are always members who are on to them. 

[Stiltskin]

Unfortunately it is very common , I would say about 50% of the time punters are ripped off .
On the positive side there are some really lovely, honest , fun girls who are worth every penny they earn .

50%, no way. I'm sure most people on here have a better hit rate than that. Me personally I'd say 2% of my punts have been awful, but I've never been ripped off completely.

[Cunning Punt]

50%, no way. I'm sure most people on here have a better hit rate than that. Me personally I'd say 2% of my punts have been awful, but I've never been ripped off completely.

Depends what you term as being ripped off. If it's not getting all the services that you are advertised and you have effectively paid for then a lot of punters have been ripped off.

If only 2% of your punts have been awful then you're very lucky.

The figure of 50% is rather overstating it IMO, though is realistic if you frequently see Romanians. Funnily enough, my strike rate has improved since I stopped seeing Romanian WGs.

[pythondan]

Thanks for the review - she is in Gloucester now and I was considering seeing her.

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