Author Topic: Outed as a UKP member. (Read 8633 times)

FBman78 · « **Reply #50 on:** January 22, 2018, 11:04:53 am »

Quote from: Jock D on January 22, 2018, 09:15:35 am

What motivates you to ask?...You are obviously looking to curry favour with her...be that a discount on the spot or on your next visit or her to give you extra special treatment in terms of service provided. Therefore, you are changing the whole landscape and dynamic of any future punt to benefit yourself...and some poor mug on the back of your glowing positive review books her and gets a half arsed crap service. He then puts a neutral or negative review up on here...and you & her come on and say he's a liar...and that is Not what UKP is about.

This!

NigelF · « **Reply #51 on:** January 22, 2018, 12:41:36 pm »

Quote from: Rangerslad on January 22, 2018, 06:33:42 am

Why should I worry if someone knows who I am on here? I’m pretty sure most girls will know anyway when you describe the punt. I realise for some that they wouldn’t want to be known due to their keyboard warrior ways on here but I generally don’t write nasty things or slag anyone off.

If it’s a positive but there’s some negative issues I would still write them, why would I not? It will benefit both punter and girl if these are highlighted and can then be changed.

Who writes "nasty things" that aren't true? Who slags anyone off when they don't deserve it?

Anyway, you're living in a fantasy land if you think that that a girl (most of them not absolutely all) won't be offended and annoyed by the slightest negative point in her review. I've seen a very good WG (highly rated by others too) and gave her a glowing review with a very slight negative point. She managed to work out who I was (mainly because I posted it way too soon) and she was mightily pissed off (which was a massive overreaction). Another girl who I reviewed positively but had a few small niggles with has now got worse with her service and keeps subtly referencing things in my review. I don't know if she knows I wrote it but she definitely knows about the review and was annoyed by it.

No punt is that unique, if you wait even just a week or two (although more is still better) most WGs wouldn't be able to work out who you are unless you leave extremely specific (and likely unnecessary) details.

Rangerslad · « **Reply #52 on:** January 22, 2018, 07:41:35 pm »

Quote from: FBman78 on January 22, 2018, 11:04:53 am

This!

Strange assumption to make.
Anyway as paperwork is usually done at the beginning of a meet it’s not likely I’m going to ask for a discount is it? I have no interest in calling anyone a liar as my type of meet would vary from the next guys. Preference is personal so I could enjoy myself doing something where as u might not.

For me if a girl delivers a good service then I give her the option of a review, if I don’t like something or she’s fake advertising etc then i’ll Review without mentioning anything to her, unless she asks of course.

If a girl takes the huff because of a minor negative issue on a positive review that’s her problem not mine. I would take the criticism and see if it something that needs changed. I wouldn’t write something that isn’t true

Rangerslad · « **Reply #53 on:** January 22, 2018, 07:45:37 pm »

Quote from: NigelF on January 22, 2018, 12:41:36 pm

Who writes "nasty things" that aren't true? Who slags anyone off when they don't deserve it?

Anyway, you're living in a fantasy land if you think that that a girl (most of them not absolutely all) won't be offended and annoyed by the slightest negative point in her review. I've seen a very good WG (highly rated by others too) and gave her a glowing review with a very slight negative point. She managed to work out who I was (mainly because I posted it way too soon) and she was mightily pissed off (which was a massive overreaction). Another girl who I reviewed positively but had a few small niggles with has now got worse with her service and keeps subtly referencing things in my review. I don't know if she knows I wrote it but she definitely knows about the review and was annoyed by it.

No punt is that unique, if you wait even just a week or two (although more is still better) most WGs wouldn't be able to work out who you are unless you leave extremely specific (and likely unnecessary) details.

There’s plenty of keyboard warriors on here that either slag each other off or try and disrespect girls that come on and have their say. I’m pretty sure most of them wouldn’t say half the things they did in front of the person they are ripping into.

If you think that doesn’t happen then I suggest you read posts more closely

NigelF · « **Reply #54 on:** January 22, 2018, 07:57:51 pm »

Quote from: Rangerslad on January 22, 2018, 07:41:35 pm

If a girl takes the huff because of a minor negative issue on a positive review that’s her problem not mine. I would take the criticism and see if it something that needs changed. I wouldn’t write something that isn’t true

Indeed but I presume you like to see them again? They'll happily see you and take your money but I can't see them being annoyed/upset as a good thing, especially since the service may suffer, of course it may not but it's certainly unwise to risk it.

Why do you feel the need to ask them about reviews? Either you want to help punters and you put as many up as possible or you want to help prossies so you ask them if they want a review. What's the point in suppressing a positive review just because they didn't want one? It's not for them - it's for other punters.

NigelF · « **Reply #55 on:** January 22, 2018, 08:05:01 pm »

Quote from: Rangerslad on January 22, 2018, 07:45:37 pm

There’s plenty of keyboard warriors on here that either slag each other off or try and disrespect girls that come on and have their say. I’m pretty sure most of them wouldn’t say half the things they did in front of the person they are ripping into.

If you think that doesn’t happen then I suggest you read posts more closely

I was mainly referring to just reviews. Nonetheless, most WGs who come on here post shit and deserve pretty much all they get. Most criticism they get is very valid although some are just pure insults. It's extremely rare for a girl to come on here and be in the "right" although it can happen (usually only when the punter lied).

Happyjose · « **Reply #56 on:** January 22, 2018, 08:12:13 pm »

Quote from: Rangerslad on January 22, 2018, 07:45:37 pm

There’s plenty of keyboard warriors on here that............try and disrespect girls that come on and have their say.

That’s quite a claim

Can you quote some examples?

Clattypats · « **Reply #57 on:** January 22, 2018, 08:29:10 pm »

This "keyboard warriors" thing to me is Bullshit...People have opinions..simple as that..

As someone has previously said...It's pixels on a screen..How can anyone feel threatened by that! ..

vw · « **Reply #58 on:** January 22, 2018, 09:04:34 pm »

Quote from: Clattypats on January 22, 2018, 08:29:10 pm

This "keyboard warriors" thing to me is Bullshit...People have opinions..simple as that..

As someone has previously said...It's pixels on a screen..How can anyone feel threatened by that! ..

Everyone has a keyboard and abides by th same rules, makes me laugh hypocrasy as they used a keyboard to type that with the aim of silencing people.

Matrix · « **Reply #59 on:** January 22, 2018, 09:11:27 pm »

Another thread about punters discussing reviews on here leads to accusations of "keyboard warriors".

Now where have I heard that before?

Quote from: Rangerslad on January 22, 2018, 06:33:42 am

keyboard warrior

Quote from: Rangerslad on January 22, 2018, 07:45:37 pm

keyboard warriors

Is Taz back already?

Clattypats · « **Reply #60 on:** January 22, 2018, 09:11:49 pm »

Quote from: virtualwaster on January 22, 2018, 09:04:34 pm

Everyone has a keyboard and abides by th same rules, makes me laugh hypocrasy as they used a keyboard to type that with the aim of silencing people.

Exactly

..It's a bollocks coin of phrase..

Matrix · « **Reply #61 on:** January 22, 2018, 09:14:21 pm »

This thread was started to gauge other punters opinions on the matter. It would seem there's a general consensus forming. I.E anyone discussing the problems that will likely arise due to being punter famous is a keyboard warrior.

Clattypats · « **Reply #62 on:** January 22, 2018, 10:03:50 pm »

Quote from: Matrix on January 22, 2018, 09:14:21 pm

This thread was started to gauge other punters opinions on the matter. It would seem there's a general consensus forming. I.E anyone discussing the problems that will likely arise due to being punter famous is a keyboard warrior.

OR..They can accuse others of being keyboard warriors..it works both ways..Anyone that calls people that..To me ..Are immature..Fuckwits..Or they can't hold up a decent arguement/comeback..

FBman78 · « **Reply #63 on:** January 23, 2018, 11:27:33 am »

Quote from: Rangerslad on January 22, 2018, 07:45:37 pm

There’s plenty of keyboard warriors on here that either slag each other off or try and disrespect girls that come on and have their say. I’m pretty sure most of them wouldn’t say half the things they did in front of the person they are ripping into.

If you think that doesn’t happen then I suggest you read posts more closely

Who are you talking about? Got examples? I can assure you that I am not a keyboard warrior. I have made no secret of the fact that I was previously banned years ago because I went the wrong side of the boundaries which resulted in a ban for white knighting. Since then I have been very careful not to go too far the other way either.

In your particular case by telling a girl you are going to positively review her means next time you see her she will maybe drop the prices or may do things she wouldn't do for other punters. It seems like trying to get leverage to me.

Now enough of your fairy talk of keyboard warriors because that sounds like trolling established members.

auldie63 · « **Reply #64 on:** January 23, 2018, 02:49:41 pm »

Quote from: FBman78 on January 23, 2018, 11:27:33 am

In your particular case by telling a girl you are going to positively review her means next time you see her she will maybe drop the prices or may do things she wouldn't do for other punters. It seems like trying to get leverage to me.
Now enough of your fairy talk of keyboard warriors because that sounds like trolling established members.

I seem to remember someone else who used to behave like that, eh?

Rangerslad · « **Reply #65 on:** January 23, 2018, 05:36:06 pm »

Calm yourselves down lads

If someone provides a good service then I give them a bit of respect by asking if they would like a review as some don’t like ukp. I have no desire to go through previous threads and start quoting phrases but I’m sure from some comments on here already we all know who the ukp hardmen are lol

No need for me to comment further

Matrix · « **Reply #66 on:** January 23, 2018, 05:57:35 pm »

Quote from: Rangerslad on January 23, 2018, 05:36:06 pm

Calm yourselves down lads

If someone provides a good service then I give them a bit of respect by asking if they would like a review as some don’t like ukp. I have no desire to go through previous threads and start quoting phrases but I’m sure from some comments on here already we all know who the ukp hardmen are lol

No need for me to comment further

Once again, back to this keyboard warrior nonsense because you don't like other peoples opinions. Topped off with instructions to calm ourselves, with a lol at the end to feign sarcasm. Trying to censor others now too.

As for respecting your whore friends by asking if they'd like a review on ukp, as "some don't like ukp".

How'd you know that they won't react badly to the "I'm a ukp reviewer", revelation?

Oh,

bushman · « **Reply #67 on:** January 23, 2018, 08:19:53 pm »

Quote from: Matrix on January 23, 2018, 05:57:35 pm

Once again, back to this keyboard warrior nonsense because you don't like other peoples opinions. Topped off with instructions to calm ourselves, with a lol at the end to feign sarcasm. Trying to censor others now too.

As for respecting your whore friends by asking if they'd like a review on ukp, as "some don't like ukp".

How'd you know that they won't react badly to the "I'm a ukp reviewer", revelation?

Oh,

I agree with the above.UKP has come up with WG's in discussions with me before. Most fucking hate it.
As someone mentioned - any form of negativity in a review will cause the WG to see red.
Escorting is a rather personal form of service delivery. Can't be compared to "Which or Tripadvisor". If Samsung makes a cock-up they will change it with next model. Unfortunately the human can't reinvent it self every 4 weeks or.
Some may try, but if you are asking her for her permission to place a review, then it sounds as if you where satisfied with the end product. She need not changing to gain your approval.
Review and let us be her judge. This is not an advertising platform.

Courtney · « **Reply #68 on:** January 23, 2018, 08:35:53 pm »

Quote from: Rangerslad on January 23, 2018, 05:36:06 pm

Calm yourselves down lads

If someone provides a good service then I give them a bit of respect by asking if they would like a review as some don’t like ukp. I have no desire to go through previous threads and start quoting phrases but I’m sure from some comments on here already we all know who the ukp hardmen are lol

No need for me to comment further

....the rangers ned is now banned.

nike · « **Reply #69 on:** January 23, 2018, 10:18:29 pm »

Quote from: bushman on January 23, 2018, 08:19:53 pm

I agree with the above.UKP has come up with WG's in discussions with me before. Most fucking hate it.
As someone mentioned - any form of negativity in a review will cause the WG to see red.
Escorting is a rather personal form of service delivery. Can't be compared to "Which or Tripadvisor". If Samsung makes a cock-up they will change it with next model. Unfortunately the human can't reinvent it self every 4 weeks or.
Some may try, but if you are asking her for her permission to place a review, then it sounds as if you where satisfied with the end product. She need not changing to gain your approval.
Review and let us be her judge. This is not an advertising platform.

Well put

vw · « **Reply #70 on:** January 23, 2018, 10:22:33 pm »

Quote from: Matrix on January 22, 2018, 09:11:27 pm

Is Taz back already?

maybe taz and emily have been breeding.

TommyMoundfrigger · « **Reply #71 on:** February 15, 2018, 06:59:31 pm »

I just had a girl text me and ask if I am pete-piper.

She obviously guessed from my review.

When punters want detailed reviews it's a bit difficult to hide your identity if the WG reads it..

As I said before, if it's a negative and you're never going to see her again, who cares?

Matrix · « **Reply #72 on:** February 15, 2018, 07:28:58 pm »

Quote from: pete-piper on February 15, 2018, 06:59:31 pm

I just had a girl text me and ask if I am pete-piper.

She obviously guessed from my review.

She asked and you've just answered.

Perhaps she'll tell all her friends about you.

Happyjose · « **Reply #73 on:** February 15, 2018, 07:49:47 pm »

Quote from: pete-piper on February 15, 2018, 06:59:31 pm

I just had a girl text me and ask if I am pete-piper.

She obviously guessed from my review.

When punters want detailed reviews it's a bit difficult to hide your identity if the WG reads it..

As I said before, if it's a negative and you're never going to see her again, who cares?

Your first concern should be protecting your identity

Change details, or omit unique aspects if you must.

NigelF · « **Reply #74 on:** February 15, 2018, 08:25:14 pm »

Quote from: Happyjose on February 15, 2018, 07:49:47 pm

Your first concern should be protecting your identity

Change details, or omit unique aspects if you must.

Sometimes it's the unique aspects which are most important/helpful for other punters though. It can be hard to resist being a bit "selfless". Although I don't disagree that punters' should put themselves first (particularly in terms of their identity).

Also, once you've posted a lot of reviews (e.g. 44 or more), unless you've put a hell of a lot of effort into hiding your tracks (including multiple phone numbers and multiple AW profiles that aren't linked) - if a WG wanted to find out who you were (particularly your AW profile but also phone number) then it's usually not that difficult if they put in effort in themselves, particularly if they know/share details with a number of other WGs.

Taking me as an example, the unfortunate reality is that a number of WGs will know who I am and while I do take precautions (waiting a good while, changing small details etc) to make things more difficult for those who want to "suss me out", it's already too late, particularly if I'm already listed on a hidden section of SAAFE or something. The precautions are definitely still worth taking though as many girls won't be bothered to put in effort just to figure out if I'm some guy on an internet forum.

TommyMoundfrigger · « **Reply #75 on:** February 15, 2018, 10:39:43 pm »

None of my names (UKP or AW) are my real name, obviously. I'm also vague when asked where I'm from.
I use a punting phone with a punting Google account.
I have location turned off on my phone.

Are there other precautions I am missing?

TommyMoundfrigger · « **Reply #76 on:** February 15, 2018, 10:42:33 pm »

Quote from: Happyjose on February 15, 2018, 07:49:47 pm

Your first concern should be protecting your identity

Change details, or omit unique aspects if you must.

My identity is false. What is there to protect?

DickDiver · « **Reply #77 on:** February 15, 2018, 11:01:38 pm »

Quote from: pete-piper on February 15, 2018, 06:59:31 pm

When punters want detailed reviews it's a bit difficult to hide your identity if the WG reads it..

I subtly change the details of the punt to confuse the hooker as much as possible but keep the review as useful as possible - change the duration, when it was relative to the review date, omit a service etc.

I'm not into kinky shit so I doubt I'd stand out from a review anyway.

Happyjose · « **Reply #78 on:** February 16, 2018, 07:53:16 am »

Quote from: pete-piper on February 15, 2018, 10:42:33 pm

My identity is false. What is there to protect?

I still think, like DD says in the previous post, that it’s worth muddying the waters a bit as an extra layer of security. There are some devious cunts out there who would work hard to out members on here.

Quote from: Admin on February 14, 2018, 11:38:04 pm

There was someone who was quite dismissive and kind of arrogant about being outed in his postings, as if it would never affect him because he was so smart, that's until he was outed.
He's still around with a new account, but he's not posting with the same attitude anymore...

TommyMoundfrigger · « **Reply #79 on:** February 16, 2018, 08:03:12 am »

I definitely take note of above post!

I'm not being arrogant or flippant and hope that's not how my post sounded. I'm being careful and very open to suggestions as to how more secure I can be.

At the end of the day, my face is my face. I can't change that but try to muddy all waters.

I suppose my comment about not caring after giving a negative review was not great. 👎 Could give someone reason to try and seek me out.

Happyjose · « **Reply #80 on:** February 16, 2018, 08:17:45 am »

Quote from: pete-piper on February 16, 2018, 08:03:12 am

I definitely take note of above post!

I'm not being arrogant or flippant and hope that's not how my post sounded. I'm being careful and very open to suggestions as to how more secure I can be.

I didn’t think you were being arrogant or flippant.

Reviews are the lifeblood of the site and the last thing we should do is spook everyone to the point that reviews are affected.

TommyMoundfrigger · « **Reply #81 on:** February 16, 2018, 03:16:55 pm »

Quote from: Happyjose on February 16, 2018, 08:17:45 am

Reviews are the lifeblood of the site and the last thing we should do is spook everyone to the point that reviews are affected.

Totally agree.

Another precautions I take is parking my car remotely and walking the last few turns. Wouldn't want the SP watching me returning to my car and driving off.

Seriously. Have I covered all bases or are there any recommendations?
Change sim in punting phone occasionally perhaps? Should I be changing my name on this or any other site frequently?
What do you guys do. Am I just unnecessarily 'spooked' as above?

Jim-Beam · « **Reply #82 on:** February 16, 2018, 03:36:51 pm »

I'm seriously ott with precautions- too much to lose.

I have several different AW profiles, use different ones for different girls, change my punting sim roughly every month or so when it needs more credit- new sim costs nothing. I've also started new profiles on here, especially after negative reviews.

I started taking major precautions after a working girl I gave a very bad review text me with my name and my car reg making major threats- I was actually that worried I traded the car in not long after too lol.

You can never be too careful.

TommyMoundfrigger · « **Reply #83 on:** February 16, 2018, 05:35:44 pm »

That's my question really.

Are you really that ott or is that normal?

geezer_breezer · « **Reply #84 on:** February 16, 2018, 09:33:09 pm »

Some other suggestions:

1. You have a punting phone, fine. But make sure that it doesn't have any contacts stored in it and no history of any recent calls. If you lost that phone then you don't want someone to be able to call anyone close to you.
2. Google (Android) still tracks your location even with Location turned off. It does it via mobile towers and WiFi networks. Less accurate than the disabled GPS but accurate enough to concern you.
3. Your punting phone should be a shit old phone like an old Nokia or £10 equivalent from Asda.
4. Make sure your car keys, if they're on your person during a punt, don't have an identifying mark or keyring on them. I once went to a punt after the car came out the garage and my keys still had the cardboard label with my reg no. on it. Oops.

NigelF · « **Reply #85 on:** February 16, 2018, 10:09:01 pm »

Quote from: pete-piper on February 16, 2018, 03:16:55 pm

Totally agree.

Another precautions I take is parking my car remotely and walking the last few turns. Wouldn't want the SP watching me returning to my car and driving off.

Seriously. Have I covered all bases or are there any recommendations?
Change sim in punting phone occasionally perhaps? Should I be changing my name on this or any other site frequently?
What do you guys do. Am I just unnecessarily 'spooked' as above?

I think you have covered all the bases. I don't like to change my SIM/phone number very often as it's easier when messaging girls who I've seen before (so they know who I am). I can't be arsed changing my name on here or AW as it's not usually the name that will link you to here (as long as you don't use the same name for both) - it's more likely to be your feedback (i.e. if they put in effort to cross-reference). It's definitely wise to park a few streets away/well out of the potential vision of the WG's premises as your car (particularly the reg) is a direct link to you and a slam dunk for anyone who wants your real name and address.

TommyMoundfrigger · « **Reply #86 on:** February 17, 2018, 08:44:42 am »

All noted.

Thanks guys. 👍

FBman78 · « **Reply #87 on:** February 17, 2018, 11:55:58 am »

My punting phone is just a basic phone like the old Nokia no predictive text even or memory beyond a couple of megabytes for call history. I never make personal calls from it either.

Author Topic: Outed as a UKP member. (Read 8633 times)

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