Athens

[Marmalade]

I’m surprised that more people don’t head for Athens in the winter. Mild weather, less crowded than in the tourist season, and great value punting. An almost unlimited number of walk-ups (or rather walk-ins as they’re ground floor mostly), great value knock-shops and massage parlours and fabulous variety of things to do in-between punts. The economy means almost everything is cheap as chips. Hotels are a slight exception (they’re used to stuffing people for anything they can get) but although there’s a room shortage in the summer, during the winter they practically give them away if you gaggle.

[Stalinator]

Can you get them to do OWO easily or like their balkan neighbours are they lazy sods?

[Marmalade]

Can you get them to do OWO easily or like their balkan neighbours are they lazy sods?

For the walk in places I’ve only had OWO a couple of times out of numerous that didn’t. The posher places (which vary in quality like our incalls, wide variation, but overall rather good, yes, though not guaranteed).

[sagapo]

I visit Athens quite often and never punted there. Will have to have more of an indepth look on my next visit  Your right though the weather in winter is very mild and almost t shirt weather. My next flight via Easyjet has cost approx £65 return so it does make it easier on the wallet.

[bigpoppapomp]

I’m surprised that more people don’t head for Athens in the winter. Mild weather, less crowded than in the tourist season, and great value punting. An almost unlimited number of walk-ups (or rather walk-ins as they’re ground floor mostly), great value knock-shops and massage parlours and fabulous variety of things to do in-between punts. The economy means almost everything is cheap as chips. Hotels are a slight exception (they’re used to stuffing people for anything they can get) but although there’s a room shortage in the summer, during the winter they practically give them away if you gaggle.

I am off to Athens myself in March so would be cool to get an idea from you of best places to go and also if you have dabbled in outcall girls and if so which would be recommended?

[Marmalade]

I am off to Athens myself in March so would be cool to get an idea from you of best places to go and also if you have dabbled in outcall girls and if so which would be recommended?

Have a look at the UKP wiki. It seems your spoon-feeding option has been disabled today. 

[FlyingBreadMan]

Have a look at the UKP wiki. It seems your spoon-feeding option has been disabled today. 

While I do thunder about leeches I think making an exception here could likely help contributors like me and it would be appreciated. Save on pm. But, you call as you will.

[Marmalade]

While I do thunder about leeches I think making an exception here could likely help contributors like me and it would be appreciated. Save on pm. But, you call as you will.

Sure thing fb. But it gets tiresome writing massive paragraphs for one liner enquiries, especially when much of the stuff is already on our Wiki. Also, I rarely do outcalls from photos as it tends to be a poor deal when travelling.

The two main areas for walk-ups in Athens are so big a blind man could find them. The parlours frequently move or are updated so one should use the local app or else take a chance if they are central. Strip clubs offer sex but tend to be a rip off.

Prices start at 10€ for fuck and suck (OW) in the walk ups. Everything else varies. Download a map, download a few Greek phrases, enjoy an amazing city, and eat and punt as the bodily needs desire!

[sagapo]

Here is the link to the guide, some good info. External Link/Members Only

[bbois77]

Here is the link to the guide, some good info. External Link/Members Only

Thanks for link Sagapo, although not going to Athens, always good to have an ever evolving source of reasonably up to date info for as many EU locations as possible!

[Marmalade]

Thanks for link Sagapo, although not going to Athens, always good to have an ever evolving source of reasonably up to date info for as many EU locations as possible!

UKP and UKP Wiki are growing at an enormous pace in this regard. Unlike ISG (which still has value but often overly dominated by Americans) UKP is from a British perspective. Punters from a roughly similar background finding the best European areas, search engines to use when you get there, what the scene is like from a British point of view (we all have pre-conceptions to overcome). Being in the U.K. we can take advantage of many cheap flights. Although ‘Europe’ covers many threads, most of them are easy to whiz through and relatively compact.

Many thank also to our occasional contributors from abroad who kindly take the time to pass on local insights. UKP goes from strength to strength — and is increasingly recognised for the valuable resource into which it has evolved. 

[Marmalade]

A lot of flights arrive or leave late. There’s a choice of Metro or Airport bus from and to the centre that takes about an hour and is quite cheap. The area to stay might depend on how much you want to see the many sites as well as punt. Metaxourgeio is close to the main 10€ quickie walk-up streets and a short walk to a couple of decent more leisurely brothels. It’s well connected by tube but you can easily walk through the busy nightlife area to the monuments. On one side of the main road are very cheap hotels (depending on season) and on the other more upmarket ones.

Omonia is one metro stop away up the hill and is backpack central together with usual scams and cheap market shit. There are decent hotels a few streets away, fairly good restaurants and a few SWs but the area is not posh (pick up a coat for a fiver). There’s three câmbios and they all give different rates. Ominia is well-connected to get anywhere else.

A little further out is Viktoria (Biktoria) which is seedier, and the main 20€ walk ups, miles of them, going almost all the way to the main railway station. A few massage joints here too. It is close to the biggest and most amazing museum and also a better nearby area to stay (walking distance to Biktoria) is Exarchion. Good hotels, reasonable price range, very trendy square with late night music and take-aways.

The ‘beautiful’ areas of Athens include some posh outlying suburbs but most are centred downtown around the Acropolis. Getting to the monunents at opening times is the best experience and less crowd. A little money will give you a romantic plant-lined balcony with a view of the Acropolis lit up at night.

You need euros and preferable a few Greek words though you can often get by just with English. The Metro also runs to the coast, an upmarket series of beaches runs all the way to the peninsular. Ferries run from where the Metro ends, taking you to the Islands but a plane can be cheaper. Crete for instance has delightful holiday locations, atmosphere and punting, particularly at Chania, the second main airport and nicer of the two big cities. Prices in Chania (which has an almost coastal village feel) are slightly more, 30€ I think, but you have a higher chance of GFE than the Athens conveyor-belt walk-ups. Also great food and good strip clubs (well 1 out of 2) if you keep your wits about you.

Enjoy.

[bbois77]

Great background Info, appreciated

[adindas]

Great info on Greece Marmalade. Thanks for sharing

[GizmoFelix]

Really considering having a week in Athens at the end of April.

Week long sightseeing and punting trip

Anybody been this year? Or able to give some advice/tips on best places to visit (punting/non punting)

And yes I have read the Wiki, and looked on the websites that people have mentioned

Also any recommend good areas to stay as I have heard that they have large refugee numbers which have caused issues.

[lionheart69uk]

Hey Marmalade, any punting options in Hersonissos, Crete where I am visiting alone next week?

[bigpoppapomp]

So I am in Athens next week and studio sound like they will be my thing, look at punter wiki it says around 40eur but isn't clear what that will pay for and if that is the minimum, does any have first hand experience of any studios in Athens and can provide more details on cost etc..

[Marmalade]

So I am in Athens next week and studio sound like they will be my thing, look at punter wiki it says around 40eur but isn't clear what that will pay for and if that is the minimum, does any have first hand experience of any studios in Athens and can provide more details on cost etc..

I thought it was in the wiki. You agree beforehand what that will cover and I’ve usually asked the madam. Unlike the ‘walk-ups’ there are not set prices. You will probably pay a little more as a foreigner and especially if you have fuck all Greek language. Btw you haven’t contributed. With respect, don’t expect to be hand-held — you’ll be helped more if you help other punters by reviewing your last punt (as opposed to promising to review if you’re fed into).

[Marmalade]

p.s. not having s go at you, but you’ve asked for advice on several European destinations and not reviewed your experiences when you got there... why not?

[Marmalade]

Really considering having a week in Athens at the end of April.

Week long sightseeing and punting trip

Anybody been this year? Or able to give some advice/tips on best places to visit (punting/non punting)

And yes I have read the Wiki, and looked on the websites that people have mentioned

Also any recommend good areas to stay as I have heard that they have large refugee numbers which have caused issues.

Yes, but you’re not likely to see them in hordes. Big encampment is off to the north of the city. I’ve often seen them pitching up their habitations in the small park at Biktoria but you’ll also see the more enterprising ones milling around at Omonia. Be wary at any busy metro stations. Some operate in small gangs. But it’s still a pretty safe city.

[bigpoppapomp]

Firstly thanks to Marmalade for his advice prior to my trip and the nudge to finally make some contribution from my punting experiences.

So to cover Athens overall as a place to visit as a tourist, it's cool but if you have any issues with graffiti or a city looking tired then you want to bear that in mind before travelling to Athens as there is a lot of both. Personally i loved it and think everything is reasonably priced and you can have whatever sort of experience you want food and drink wise, high class which will still be loads cheaper than the equivalent in the UK. mid-range which is very good vfm or budget which is still good and saves money for the punting.

As for the punting, firstly, speaking Greek is a big bonus if you can do it, I can cobble together some phrase as been to the various greek places but even that basic stuff will get you a small way as non-Greeks (no matter how hard you try not to) stick out like a sore thumb.

My only punt was at Studio Liosia 73a with Isabella -  External Link/Members Only

Very attractive girl, spoke some English but not a great deal, paid 60 euros for simple service, BJ, 69 and sex, was asked to shower first after paying and when I returned to the room Isabella was on the bed in lingerie awaiting me, some soft kissing but closed lips, slight taste of cigarettes on her and the room did smell of smoke. BJ was ok, nothing to write home about but was adequate, asked to go to 69 which she obilged to and she tasted very sweet, tight shaved pussy and she made some noises to suggest my attentions were enjoyable on her part. Sadly the punt fell apart from there, she very vanilla during sex and would only go for missionary, apparently more than one position not possible as you paid for simple service, I resisted the idea of paying 40 euros more for another position and had here suck me to completion whilst covered and then left.

Made a couple of attempts to see girls I wanted in studios but on both occasions neither were readily available and it felt like I was, as a non-Greek, being given less of a priority as was told there would 1-2hrs wait as the girls had bookings but on both occassions there was another (and much rougher) option offered to me quite forcibly.

All in all, it was a poor experience but I would give Athens another chance as I liked the city, punting aside, and the escort scene looks good plus I will try to sample the walk ups next time too.

[Marmalade]

Thanks for reporting back. I think I’ve added most details that can help a sensible first timer (or passed them to the Wiki editors) but will perhaps have a look at other stuff that might be handy. Pleased you made it to a studio! Yes, they are not easy for a first-timer in Athens but still a good option to get to know, as are the full service massage places (that often move). The walk-ups (or rather ‘walk-ins) are easy, much better than say Soho, but you have to be ready to fire off pretty quick!

[bigpoppapomp]

Thanks for reporting back. I think I’ve added most details that can help a sensible first timer (or passed them to the Wiki editors) but will perhaps have a look at other stuff that might be handy. Pleased you made it to a studio! Yes, they are not easy for a first-timer in Athens but still a good option to get to know, as are the full service massage places (that often move). The walk-ups (or rather ‘walk-ins) are easy, much better than say Soho, but you have to be ready to fire off pretty quick!

Yeah the walk ups looked of interest but didn't get the chance to get to them as viewed the trip more touristic than punting this time, plus as I arrived late the first night and was departing early to one of the islands just a few days later my time was stretched. There was no lack of friendliness in the studios I went in that didn't punt but it was a case of wanting to see that one girl on both times and as is the way in most studios during the day time (up to 8pm) they operated a two girl schedule and the alternative was not for me.

[Marmalade]

Yeah the walk ups looked of interest but didn't get the chance to get to them as viewed the trip more touristic than punting this time, plus as I arrived late the first night and was departing early to one of the islands just a few days later my time was stretched. There was no lack of friendliness in the studios I went in that didn't punt but it was a case of wanting to see that one girl on both times and as is the way in most studios during the day time (up to 8pm) they operated a two girl schedule and the alternative was not for me.

I like some of the islands. Chania is a beautiful place to stay with rather more upmarket walkups. Just one small street and some of them work hard as they know the small number means their reputation stays. Slightly more expensive (30E last time I went) but it's closer to studio treatment than Athens walk ups if one is lucky. Greece is a beautiful country and even Athens has far more than can be seen in a short trip.

[AlTerminator]

Wow, I'm lucky I found this, I'm in Greece for a few days, sadly I'm only in Athens for 2 days with family so I won't be able to get away but I'll be in Crete,  heraklion for 4 days, the punting guide mainly focuses on Chanai, anyone know any good places in heraklion?

[Marmalade]

Wow, I'm lucky I found this, I'm in Greece for a few days, sadly I'm only in Athens for 2 days with family so I won't be able to get away but I'll be in Crete,  heraklion for 4 days, the punting guide mainly focuses on Chanai, anyone know any good places in heraklion?

It has an outstanding museum and there’s some nice bits further east along the coast. But it’s not that attractive a city. If you haven’t booked accommodation yet you might perhaps want to consider getting the (frequent) bus to Chania to stay. That way you have an impressive place for the family and punting in walking distance. Heraklion isn’t known for any RLD as far as I’m aware. You could try on the External Link/Members Only forum which is what I use. (In Greek, but you can use Chrome for instant translation.)

[AlTerminator]

Thanks man for the link, I'll check it and see how it goes.

[AlTerminator]

Well luckily I managed to arrange a punt in Athens before I left, and holy fuck it was a good brilliant, and with a stunning spanish girl who was a former model,  would have easily cost me £150-200 in the UK from a well established agency. It was only €130, easy to see up to thanks to bordela.com, once again ukp helping out us lowly punters 

[thecat250]

Thanks for all the useful info on Athens. I went a few years ago but never punted and tempted to return if not for anything but a nice warm long weekend break.

Found quite a comprehensive article to the background of the studio/brothels, even has a handy map of all the houses  , who knows if it's current or not. Anyway might be useful to some here planning to visit.

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[AlTerminator]

Yes I checked that out, but I didn't like the look of those places, that why I went for an agency, very easy to set up via viber. Although more expensive, the girl was stunning.

[Marmalade]

A good article. The red light (mostly white light) areas don’t change. Everything else moves around. I’ve found one in three studios and massage fuck places were open first time I tried. The studios though offer very good value. The walk-ups are pump and dump but if you get good ones they can be lovely (just try two or three if the first isn’t worth the jizz, and you can walk in and look at as many as you have patience for).

I haven’t covered the escort services much but reviews would be good (there’s plenty on the Bourdela site but they’re in Greek). Btw the pictures of RLD districts don’t show what a beautiful, often stunning city Athens. Worth exploring!

[yodeling]

I thought it was in the wiki. You agree beforehand what that will cover and I’ve usually asked the madam. Unlike the ‘walk-ups’ there are not set prices. You will probably pay a little more as a foreigner and especially if you have fuck all Greek language. Btw you haven’t contributed. With respect, don’t expect to be hand-held — you’ll be helped more if you help other punters by reviewing your last punt (as opposed to promising to review if you’re fed into).

they can vary wildly ..each place and woman is different..nationalities vary ..russian, bulgis ,roms and a few greeks

see also athenssexstudios.gr

[Marmalade]

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[Marmalade]

they can vary wildly ..each place and woman is different..nationalities vary ..russian, bulgis ,roms and a few greeks

Indeed that goes for all sex services in Athens. But do you have any recent experience?

The thing is, if you don’t like what’s offered, walk. I’ve found it never causes offence.

Also beware of low-end ‘studios’ with tarted up web presence. For instance External Link/Members Only When I’ve looked in, there’s a plush reception treating you like an honoured guest, but the only prossies available were a couple of disgusting old minger tarts.

[Marmalade]

Although I try generally not to rely on the Internet, one of the useful things if the links show an updated studio website or phone number is it helps to check that the place is still running. Some studios are fairly central but there's nothing more frustrating than a long journey only to find a place boarded up! The other downside is that studio adverts rarely if ever give an indication of price, which means it's usually 'negotiable'.

Massage joints are almost as changeable although plenty reasonably located, but the challenge with them seems not so much the price (which is more often more upfront) but whether they do 'extras'. Hence enquire 'discreetly' at the reception if the online reports are inconclusive. They all pose as non-sexual but the veneer is thicker in some than others (and some are indeed no sexual services, same as here). But the ones that do include it often provide damn good full sex: just make it clear in advance what you want, quietly and politely!

[yodeling]

yep last year in athens ..found some nice women in fillis .particularly monica from bulgaria was hot and a good selection of others in surrounding places .but the speed they operate is offputting ..quick time is in operation ..found a smart studio out of the central area near a honda dealers which had a great selection of babes ..from russia and balkans

metaxorgiou area was dismal really .with plenty of walkups,and walkdowns but quality was poor although i did find one very smart greek gal of early 20s for 10euros.. the FL action seems to be poor but the problem could be the language barrier as you cant be sure if theyre on the game or not as if you cant discuss fees etc its hopeless

gazi area seems to have plenty of studios which will try next trip

omonia square is a dump and stinks of urine from homeless people ..

could try the rabbit hole for FLs ...keramikou area

there should be tons of FLs on the streets as times are hard in athens but where are they ? taxi drivers says theyre everywhere

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[yodeling]

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[yodeling]

i could never find any of these women that work for a cheese pie or sandwich

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[Marmalade]

It was a thoroughly misleading piece circulated in the popular press. The ‘price of a sandwich’ stuff relates to a small area of refugees in an area I haven’t visited but looks very dodgy, a park a good way NW I think it is of Biktoria. (It could be replicated in other refugee-only encampments.) It’s a refugee encampment basically run on crime.

The article conflates it with the well established trade that’s been going on in Greece for years. Unless you are paying 10€ for a sandwich, it’s just a trashy tabloid headline.

[ramster555]

I'll be in Athens for a few days, thinking about renting a car, is it safe to leave a rental on streets. I'm in an Air B&B near the Acropolis. They said I can park on streets. If I go to fillis St.  is it safe to park in that part of town?

 Thank you Ramster

[Marmalade]

I'll be in Athens for a few days, thinking about renting a car, is it safe to leave a rental on streets. I'm in an Air B&B near the Acropolis. They said I can park on streets. If I go to fillis St.  is it safe to park in that part of town?

 Thank you Ramster

Acropolis area is very safe. Filis is a run down area but seems a mix of low life and respectables. It’s a rather narrow street though for driving a car. If you drive around you’ll find more respectable areas south of Biktoria which are walking distance. Not sure why you want to rent a car? Good for travelling outside of Athens but central Athens, including Filis, is all easily reached by Metro (3 or 5 day tickets good value). Filis is a place to go on foot, so you can look in many doors in a short space of time. They’re all almost next to each other btw.

[ramster555]

Thanks Marmalade I might think twice now about renting a car,  one more about taking the train to Fillis at night... ok to be walking around at night there.

[Marmalade]

Thanks Marmalade I might think twice now about renting a car,  one more about taking the train to Fillis at night... ok to be walking around at night there.

Yes I think so. It looks dodgier than it is in my opinion. But during the day it looks yukky. If you are hesitant though, go first in the day so you know the area. Better deals then anyway. They start from about 11am and gradually more and more open. Nicer (more touristy) places to go in the evening!

The worst I’ve seen to look out for anywhere in Athens (including posh bit) is groups of immigrants working together and using a decoy. The Greeks themselves are a decent lot.

[ramster555]

Thanks for the reply, it does look run down way lots of graffiti!!

I planed on a day visit first I always do before I go at night, it looks easy to get around on the trains in Athens. All of Europe is easy. In Vegas it's bad having to drive your car everywhere from place to place, town to town, state to state.

 I'll be in Athens May 11th till 14th you or any other board members like to have a beer some food exchange a few stories let me know.
Ramster

[Splodge]

Thanks for the link. Knew Greece had aws but not sure on scale, location to the city centre, etc. Have never been to Greece for punting. Greek women are beautiful and for the first time I had the pleasure of one in Germany. Great service and lovely lady. Warm and friendly. I'll check out the link. Thanks.   

[Splodge]

interesting stuff. This site is excellent (only recently found it), after years and years of punting on the continent.  Wiki is good for stuff too. Many thanks. I'll stick to Germany for now but Greece is always an option.  I read that most aws in Greece's rlds aren't greek though? Surely this isn't true? As that's what it go for. Any shemales or trannies? Any mature women ? 

[yodeling]

Acropolis area is very safe. Filis is a run down area but seems a mix of low life and respectables. It’s a rather narrow street though for driving a car. If you drive around you’ll find more respectable areas south of Biktoria which are walking distance. Not sure why you want to rent a car? Good for travelling outside of Athens but central Athens, including Filis, is all easily reached by Metro (3 or 5 day tickets good value). Filis is a place to go on foot, so you can look in many doors in a short space of time. They’re all almost next to each other btw.

filis is a narrow street so i wouldn't say its easy to park .metro to viktoria and walk

[yodeling]

many areas are very run down with houses collapsing ,,the reason being land owners are terrified to redevelop them as they have to pay for an archeological dig which could costs a lot and could  take years.. the sub strata of athens holds 1000s of years of history..
add on tons of grafitti and its a pretty depressing sight.. just about everywhere in the suburbs

[yodeling]

athens needs a beer garden like the one in bangkok where the FLs congregate but so far nothing to get gals off the streets ..

i asked vergina brewers to start one but nothing so far



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