Does anybody think that punting has become shit in the west midlands?

[nightrider.1234]

Does anybody think punting isnt as good as it use to be like back in the days in the west midlands.  The reason why I think punting has become shit in the west midlands is because there are far too many east european women cos when I look at the ratio of east european women compared to english girls the ratio of east european women are higher then english girls.  When I look at english wg's I can mostly find are the fat ones or the ones on drugs and the fit gorgeous types english ladies mostly do webcaming not escorting.  Even when you look at the east european women they are mostly petite ones who have size 6-8 body size with fake photoshopped pictures.  Even when I look at escorts at other counties in the uk they have far more better looking wgs then there are in the west midlands. 


So whats your guys opinions do you think that punting has become shit in the west midlands?

[Pablo02]

I'm fairly new to punting and have only been doing it since about march this year.
In answer to your question I avoid seeing Eastern Europeans as much as I can.
Unless feedback reviews are good even then I'm quite hesitant.
What I've found myself is that I'm seeing more touring English girls

[Ming]

There is, at the moment a dearth of good reliable talent in the West Midlands, it has been mentioned in various threads over the last several months.

There is a fantastic opportunity here at the moment, if a few good women were to come to Brum for a while I am quite sure they would be busy, just look at the likes of Vicky for instance, she is sold out almost as soon as she announces a tour here.

Have to disagree about EE girls though, some of the best talent over the last 2 years or so has been EE girls, like MI, EmilyBlonde, Aniabeatiful, Ashley, and now Vicky, all of them are Polish.

Of course one does have to be careful with most of the Romanians, but we should not generalise, there have been some good Roms, just most of them are dodgy.

Ming 

[Pablo02]

There is, at the moment a dearth of good reliable talent in the West Midlands, it has been mentioned in various threads over the last several months.

There is a fantastic opportunity here at the moment, if a few good women were to come to Brum for a while I am quite sure they would be busy, just look at the likes of Vicky for instance, she is sold out almost as soon as she announces a tour here.

Have to disagree about EE girls though, some of the best talent over the last 2 years or so has been EE girls, like MI, EmilyBlonde, Aniabeatiful, Ashley, and now Vicky, all of them are Polish.

Of course one does have to be careful with most of the Romanians, but we should not generalise, there have been some good Roms, just most of them are dodgy.

Ming 

Most of the good polish never seem to stay.
All your left with is the bad ones.
And some of the English ones seem to want to charge silly prices.

[Excalibur]

Don't think it is a West Midlands thing,  our London brothers are also bemoaning the lack of talent on a thread now.

[Pablo02]

Think what's happening is that these Romanian gangs and Albanians are flooding the escort market with girls who are doing it not through choice which is why the service is piss poor. 

[nightrider.1234]

Most of the good polish never seem to stay.
All your left with is the bad ones.
And some of the English ones seem to want to charge silly prices.

Totally agree with you.  A few weeks ago I was browsing at escort profiles on adultwork, and I found a sexy looking english wg with who had a size 10-12 body with a nice rack and her prices are ridiculous. £140 for an hour and no owo, no kissing just a crappy basic service.  I wish I can post a link but I cant find her profile on the site 

[nightrider.1234]

Also for some reason some really fit english wg's dont show their rates on their profiles and they only have feedback from punters who booked them for webcaming and on their profiles and they have a tick sign where it says escorts.

So if they dont do escorting and only do webcaming then why do they have a tick sign next to escorts on their profile? 

[nightrider.1234]

Think what's happening is that these Romanian gangs and Albanians are flooding the escort market with girls who are doing it not through choice which is why the service is piss poor.

Well in that case thank fuck for brexit 

[Juankerr]

It's always been the same in Birmingham in terms of English WG's, there has never really been a high amount of independent English girls available.

All comes down to your own experiences I suppose but I've had many great punts with Polish and Czech WG's in particular over the years in Birmingham.

Have to agree though, the choices have become more limited this year 

[denneboom]

When I started punting in 2001 there were 90% all British girls.

Walk into a parlour now and you will struggle to find one. The daytime parlours have good English girls available but the EE's are starting to creep in.

The amount of Romanians is frighting. They lie there, do nothing and expect a tip at the end. It's in their DNA to try and scam you.

One tried to charge me £20 extra just for a tit wank. Another in the Bluebell Suite asked for £20 extra because it was 4am and the last hour of the night.

I have a few rules in whoring now and one of them is that I wont see an Eastern European if I haven't seen her before and know what she is about.

Sick of poor punts and being ripped off

[nightrider.1234]

When I started punting in 2001 there were 90% all British girls.

Walk into a parlour now and you will struggle to find one. The daytime parlours have good English girls available but the EE's are starting to creep in.

The amount of Romanians is frighting. They lie there, do nothing and expect a tip at the end. It's in their DNA to try and scam you.

One tried to charge me £20 extra just for a tit wank. Another in the Bluebell Suite asked for £20 extra because it was 4am and the last hour of the night.

I have a few rules in whoring now and one of them is that I wont see an Eastern European if I haven't seen her before and know what she is about.

Sick of poor punts and being ripped off

This is the reason why I cant wait for our country to fully get out of the eu.  Once when we are out we can make our own laws which can prevent these east european pimps or human traffickers from bringing them girls into our country.  Plus having them in our country isn't gonna benefit our economy cos all what they do is send their money back to their country of origin to their families. 

[mau111]

I've only punted with one foreign woman a few years ago.  I think she was Swedish.  Looked great but wasn't a memorable meeting.  I've decided to stick to English escorts.

I think for punters who like a meeting every couple of weeks with a different woman it might well be a struggle to find good service providers.  For someone like me who has a punt every few months it isn't so much a problem.  For instance I've seen the well reviewed Hannah twice in the last three months and will hopefully see her again one more time this year.  There are couple of other English ladies I fancy meeting but I'm in no rush.

[smiley9]

Yeah has been debated before for a Region the size of the West Mids the quality of WGs is poor:dash:
There are a few Gems and a few who come sometimes on tour but to honest I would say it has always been like this not just suddenly become ?  Oh well maybe 2018 will be a Golden Year ? 

     

[curry]

Plus having them in our country isn't gonna benefit our economy cos all what they do is send their money back to their country of origin to their families.

Yes and pay no tax and probably scam the benefits system whilst they are here as well

[bearcat69]

We certainly have our share of good quality English GFE providers here, and there are a fair few good EE girls here too IMO. I actually think the biggest issue is that a lot of the better EE girls have gone recently, and that's left me with limited appealing options. The shit EE girls, well they are of no interest to me obviously, plus the good English girls are often limited in availability or they have unreasonably high prices, plus whilst there are a fair few good options, if you punt fairly regularly it's easy to get through most of those options quite quickly and then being left feeling a bit underwhelmed at the choices you have left, especially if the option of repeat visits to the same working girl is not too appealing to you. There's also a definitely lack of good duo options or PSE options in this region, and then there's the parlour options... Well, I think I've maybe had my fill of them for the moment.

I don't punt a massive amount myself, not compared to others here, so with the right planning there is always something that I can find to interest me, and I've been punting only about a year and a half so don't really have that far back in the past to compare to, but certainly I think options could be a lot better here. Especially in the last few months were it does seem to have become particularly barren. But, I enjoy my punting here most of the time nevertheless... Hopefully things will pick up towards the end of the year and more options will become available. I myself in the meanwhile will be punting less, looking for quality over quantity and possibly looking at options further afield.

[Walsalllad15]

Walsall is shocking.  There's nothing there these days. You could always find some decent.

Last times in Walsall I should have set my money on fire

[nightrider.1234]

It's always been the same in Birmingham in terms of English WG's, there has never really been a high amount of independent English girls available.

All comes down to your own experiences I suppose but I've had many great punts with Polish and Czech WG's in particular over the years in Birmingham.

Have to agree though, the choices have become more limited this year 

There has been an influx of Hungarian wg's in the west midlands. Has anybody punted with a Hungarian wg....  Are they any good? Or are they shit like the Romanians

[Ming]

There has been an influx of Hungarian wg's in the west midlands. Has anybody punted with a Hungarian wg....  Are they any good? Or are they shit like the Romanians

There's 2 reviews this week about Hungarian WG's

Ming 

[Chuckman]

The West Midlands has been quiet for me this year as there's been few who have caught my eye enough to make me want to spend my hard earned on them. Once you take the Romanians out of the equation the number greatly drops. Then you've got the ones with no FK, no OWO, no RO etc. who basically might as well write as their profile "you should be grateful that I even deign to see you, never mind have sex with you".

A couple of years back I could find WGs who would do rimming, anal play and strapon for a reasonable price and now I'm looking to pay £120 ph for someone who does FK, OWO and maybe some anal play. Haven't written many reviews lately because I don't want to waste my money on a punt that I know will be mediocre or poor from the start.

[legendinho]

This time last year I had 5 regulars and full hotlist of potential gems. Now 2 regulars and a very short hotlist 

I am punting away from the region more and more. Hope it gets better in Birmingham.

 

[poe]

Totally agree, the last 12/18 months things have gone from poor to desperate.


A good/average GFE, from a resident WG, for £100 an hour is just not available anymore in Brum.

In my opinion......the pickings are either 'overpriced', 'provide a cold n lifeless service' or are part of a 'Bait n Switch' group, so a gamble every time!

My last three punts were 'pump n dumps', just to 'bust a nut off' and not worth reviewing.

Unless anyone has any (helpful) suggestions? I may just retire for a while.....as I'm bored of paying for 'warm wanks'!!! 😉

[denneboom]

I frequently visit a parlour in Birmingham and ask for only one Romanian girl because I fancy the arse off her. She is kind of my fantasy woman. 5"10 tall, nipples like scania wheel nuts, long legs, but its a vanilla plain experience.

You pay £120 per hour and there is no FK, OWO, teasing or anything. She won't even go on top. Its a grab, grope, covered oral, and mish while she looks away at the clock. Sometimes you will be ushered out of the room 43 minutes after you went in. (20 mins on a halt hour session)
They keep asking "you finish,you finish" as they try to get rid of you for the next one.
Many times I have failed to pull in Birmingham then detoured to this parlour at 3am in the morning to see that girl.
I'd be better off having a wank.

Contrast this to Blue Ice daygame where I'd pay £120, £10 more for OWO and I would have an English girl who would carry out the full range of services with no hesitation, even enthusiasm. I'd be asked what I like and the girl would accommodate. Tia and Poppy were their best girls in my opinion and I'd leave with a smile on my face. Tia even asked if I wanted to film some of the action on my mobile. That was a treat. (where are they now ?) Now the only girl I will see in Blue Ice is Taylor I have had to walk away when only EE's are available.

But I'm going to heed Juankerr's advice and try an independent via AW.

[jeanvaljean2000]

Well the bottom line is that punting is shite these days EE or not.  My best experiences in the last 5 years has been on the swinging scene,  clubs and parties.  They are cheaper and you get all the sex you need at the fraction of punting cost.  Only you have to be naked and share with othet fat pervs. Weirdly though,  EEs are very good on fab swingers. When  you meet them you are in a good fuck. I have met few and wondered they could be charging  £150 an hour and still build good clientele.   There are quite a few in brum with profiles on Fab, the male part of some is brit and some are full EE.

[manofleisure]

Time to lament the passing of worthwhile punts in the West Midlands - and in particular Walsall. Some WGs are so crappy here that I'm reconsidering going back to r3troclub

[Juankerr]

There has been an influx of Hungarian wg's in the west midlands. Has anybody punted with a Hungarian wg....  Are they any good? Or are they shit like the Romanians

I've seen a few, generally solid punts IME but the kissing has usually been light.

[Juankerr]

I frequently visit a parlour in Birmingham and ask for only one Romanian girl because I fancy the arse off her. She is kind of my fantasy woman. 5"10 tall, nipples like scania wheel nuts, long legs, but its a vanilla plain experience.

You pay £120 per hour and there is no FK, OWO, teasing or anything. She won't even go on top. Its a grab, grope, covered oral, and mish while she looks away at the clock. Sometimes you will be ushered out of the room 43 minutes after you went in. (20 mins on a halt hour session)
They keep asking "you finish,you finish" as they try to get rid of you for the next one.
Many times I have failed to pull in Birmingham then detoured to this parlour at 3am in the morning to see that girl.
I'd be better off having a wank.

But I'm going to heed Juankerr's advice and try an independent via AW.

Is that another one at the Bluebell Suite or somewhere else? Never been there and not heard anything good about it from what you have said before.

If I were you I'd have a look at the some of the well reviewed WG's on here and see who takes your fancy 

[denneboom]

Is that another one at the Bluebell Suite or somewhere else? Never been there and not heard anything good about it from what you have said before.

If I were you I'd have a look at the some of the well reviewed WG's on here and see who takes your fancy 

I can not recommend the Bluebell Suite at all.

But it might be different during the daytime.

[vinnie1952]

Yes there is a dearth of good looking girls working in the West Mids. You can't trust the pictures on aw and you have to wait for a girl you know and trust to come to the West Mids on tour. I know one that I would see anytime she visits this area.

[nightrider.1234]

I've seen a few, generally solid punts IME but the kissing has usually been light.

Which ones have you seen?

Got any links

[tommywink82]

External Link/Members Only

I found this one excellent. And can confirm she is extremely attractive.

[azrael]

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I found this one excellent. And can confirm she is extremely attractive.

Be a dear and pop a review through budd

[azrael]

There is, at the moment a dearth of good reliable talent in the West Midlands, it has been mentioned in various threads over the last several months.

There is a fantastic opportunity here at the moment, if a few good women were to come to Brum for a while I am quite sure they would be busy, just look at the likes of Vicky for instance, she is sold out almost as soon as she announces a tour here.

Have to disagree about EE girls though, some of the best talent over the last 2 years or so has been EE girls, like MI, EmilyBlonde, Aniabeatiful, Ashley, and now Vicky, all of them are Polish.

Of course one does have to be careful with most of the Romanians, but we should not generalise, there have been some good Roms, just most of them are dodgy.

Ming 

+1 dont forget to add pola and andrea to that list

[azrael]

Don't think it is a West Midlands thing,  our London brothers are also bemoaning the lack of talent on a thread now.

I would gladly swap theirs for ours, i would take any of their top20 wg's to any of ours bar the top5

[azrael]

This time last year I had 5 regulars and full hotlist of potential gems. Now 2 regulars and a very short hotlist 

I am punting away from the region more and more. Hope it gets better in Birmingham.

 

+1, might just have to get back on the road again

[azrael]

Does anybody think punting isnt as good as it use to be like back in the days in the west midlands.  The reason why I think punting has become shit in the west midlands is because there are far too many east european women cos when I look at the ratio of east european women compared to english girls the ratio of east european women are higher then english girls.  When I look at english wg's I can mostly find are the fat ones or the ones on drugs and the fit gorgeous types english ladies mostly do webcaming not escorting.  Even when you look at the east european women they are mostly petite ones who have size 6-8 body size with fake photoshopped pictures.  Even when I look at escorts at other counties in the uk they have far more better looking wgs then there are in the west midlands. 


So whats your guys opinions do you think that punting has become shit in the west midlands?

Its a shame really, some of the wg's i've tried to get to come to birmingham iften say the same thing "its not worth my while" or "only a few punters would come to see me" even this one "i might have to cancel my tour if i havent recieved a lot of interest"

[Midsman2014]

Yes it has become shit in the West Mids - in the last 12 months or so I'd say it's really gone downhill.

It'll pick up again though...it happens every so often.

[Juankerr]

Which ones have you seen?

Got any links

The Hungarian WG's I have seen are all tourists and none of them are available at the moment so this will probably be of no use to you but here are the links anyway....

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only Poor kissing but I enjoyed the rest but note she has vey mixed reviews.

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only I reviewed her under her original AW profile https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=122127.0

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only Link is inactive, she's allegedly retired according to her last UKP review.

Seen a few more but none that I'd recommend.

[BlueRock]

Quite a few ladies have said to me that Birmingham is full of punters who haggle over prices or call endlessly trying to get a deal. Gents from sparkhill etc. We're named as worst offenders.
Too many EE ladies smoking hot but shit punts. Bit of a shame as I used to see a Rom who was great but its not worth the gamble trying others. At present am staying to regulars.

[Pablo02]

Quite a few ladies have said to me that Birmingham is full of punters who haggle over prices or call endlessly trying to get a deal. Gents from sparkhill etc. We're named as worst offenders.
Too many EE ladies smoking hot but shit punts. Bit of a shame as I used to see a Rom who was great but its not worth the gamble trying others. At present am staying to regulars.

Sparkhil?
Ha ha you mean prominently Asian areas

[saf1976]

Punting is shite compared with the experiences I had 10 years ago.

However that's also down to me. I've fucked so many beautiful women in the last 10 years that I now take sex for granted now. What once felt like the best sex ever now feels like a standard Saturday night.

My whole attitude to women has changed, not just in punting. Where as I once would have felt a bit in awe of beautiful women and tolerated some of their behaviour, I now roll my eyes and move on.

There's definitely saturation with so many girls but operating costs also comes into it. A reasonable flat in my area costs £750 a month. Put council tax and bills on top of that and it's quite a scary prospect. More so than 10 years ago. It may be good for a year or so but what happens when guys get bored, which we mostly do? Maybe this is why touring has become popular as well?

[johnsnow]

I can not recommend the Bluebell Suite at all.

But it might be different during the daytime.

I went there not so long ago in the day time about 4.30pm. Buzzed door, waited for around twenty seconds then heard an EE voice say 'have you been before'. Let me in and was standing behind a huge prison-like door. Huge knockers hanging down and popping out of dress, pretty over weight and covered in makeup. Takes me up into room with an English wg sitting on her own who looks pale, tired with greasy hair, (bangable but not for more than around £40) and gives me an 'Alright darling' like something out of Victorian England. Another EE in the corner.

Two EE sit down next to each other and starting talking in their private language and then she says to me 'choose.'  Its dark in there and need a good clean up in reception, looks like there was a bar and a pole in the middle of the room, but no action there.

I gave my apolgies.

Same issue as Annabels...

These two places could be v.good, if they offered a more relaxed introduction, cleaned up the interiors a bit, maybe have a drink with a few girls. Not have them speak about you in their private language ffs.

Then when you're ready you can make your choice , rather than having to make an immediate knee jerk decision. 

Please take note if you're reading!  You will triple your $$$$

[alibirmingham]

Does anybody think punting isnt as good as it use to be like back in the days in the west midlands.  The reason why I think punting has become shit in the west midlands is because there are far too many east european women cos when I look at the ratio of east european women compared to english girls the ratio of east european women are higher then english girls.  When I look at english wg's I can mostly find are the fat ones or the ones on drugs and the fit gorgeous types english ladies mostly do webcaming not escorting.  Even when you look at the east european women they are mostly petite ones who have size 6-8 body size with fake photoshopped pictures.  Even when I look at escorts at other counties in the uk they have far more better looking wgs then there are in the west midlands. 


So whats your guys opinions do you think that punting has become shit in the west midlands?

I completely agree with the sentiment the Birmingham and the West mids in general has gone shit for punting however i do agree with Ming's point that you cant write off the EE talent pool. I find that english WG's do have higher rates while usually offering less in terms of service and this is why i tend to punt with more EE girls but do try and vary where i can. None the less all the good talent (regardless of nationality) have seemed to have abandoned Birmingham for richer pastures and left all us punters with a drought! Could have something to do with BlueRock & Pablo's posts below  Im asian and although personally i would never haggle i can see it happening and that statement holding some truth.

I am however glad that we have had a small bit of good luck as one of my personal favorites Ania Beautiful has returned altough she does have a new profile and now calls herself Beautiful Ania (Link to new profile - External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only)

Quite a few ladies have said to me that Birmingham is full of punters who haggle over prices or call endlessly trying to get a deal. Gents from sparkhill etc. We're named as worst offenders.
Too many EE ladies smoking hot but shit punts. Bit of a shame as I used to see a Rom who was great but its not worth the gamble trying others. At present am staying to regulars.

Sparkhil?
Ha ha you mean prominently Asian areas

[YoungBrum]

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I found this one excellent. And can confirm she is extremely attractive.

Youve posted about her, what, 5 times? Do a review man

[_Bender_]

  Fuck me ... again!!!! 

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=154847.msg1687885#msg1687885

[bearcat69]

Fuck me ... again!!!! 

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=154847.msg1687885#msg1687885

Look, just give us MandyFoxxx, Woofie35, tattooed-bombshell, Riley-Lee and LucieBee and the complaining will stop!

That's the issue though, right there, Birmingham and the West Midlands certainly has it's stars, but there is just a slight lack of solidly dependable good looking British girls available such as those 5 about to punt, particular ones who offer more exciting options such as PSE or good quality duos.

But, the grass is always greener on the other side and all that. I imagine you could get through those EM options very quickly and be left feeling more than a bit underwhelmed at the choices left for punts in the EM. Fortunately, one can hop on a train, or drive if you have a car and Birmingham is very good in terms of being able to get to other parts of the country without too much difficulty.

We certainly have our stars here though, such as Hannah, EmilyBlonde, Isla Brooks, Chardonnay, British-Lisa, Lily Whyte etc., but as good as they are, they all offer very similar GFE type punts. A few girls such as Blond Lia, SweetVictoria and sophiarose leave, and Michelle Independant going part time and suddenly options look very limited and have not really been replaced. It doesn't help either that the main source of good quality Polish girls to punt as gone to shit lately too. It's also a shame that the Thai group has that maid to deal with..

The only real new talent that's come about recently is Andrea Meddan and Gorgeous Vicky, and well, both look good and everything, but neither exactly make me feel a strong urge to jump of my sofa to go and fuck them.

Yes, there's the tours Birmingham attracts, but catching a touring girl at the right moment of opportunity is easier said than done.

This is a transient business though, WG's come and go, just the nature of things, like I said in my earlier post, I just try to make the best of what is there to punt, hopefully this is just a bit of a trough and a peak will come soon. But I can understand where the moaning is coming from though. Certainly this time last year things seemed much more of a peak here, although I was much newer to punting then.

[_Bender_]

Look, just give us MandyFoxxx, Woofie35, tattooed-bombshell, Riley-Lee and LucieBee and the complaining will stop!

Deal!! .... maybe we could arrange some kind of hooker exchange scheme!! ha haa

[Roadster]

 It doesn't help either that the main source of good quality Polish girls to punt as gone to shit lately too.

22nd June 2016: 1 GBP = 5.6934 PLN
18 September 2017 1 GBP = 4.8596 PLN

15 months - 20% cash terms pay reduction. Plus UK inflation effects (2.9%).  Plus Polish inflation effects (1.9%). 

These girls are sending home to their kids a lot less money in real terms than they were prior to the referendum.

However sucking germanic cock:

22nd June 2016: 1 Euro = 4.386361 PLN
18 September 2017 1 Euro = 4.281379 PLN
Germany Infaltion rate 1.8%

Obviously there are absolutely no negative effects of Brexit and everything in the garden is definately getting rosier and we should all get on board with it.

Just sayin'.

[Ming]

22nd June 2016: 1 GBP = 5.6934 PLN
18 September 2017 1 GBP = 4.8596 PLN

15 months - 20% cash terms pay reduction. Plus UK inflation effects (2.9%).  Plus Polish inflation effects (1.9%). 

These girls are sending home to their kids a lot less money in real terms than they were prior to the referendum.

However sucking germanic cock:

22nd June 2016: 1 Euro = 4.386361 PLN
18 September 2017 1 Euro = 4.281379 PLN
Germany Infaltion rate 1.8%

Obviously there are absolutely no negative effects of Brexit and everything in the garden is definately getting rosier and we should all get on board with it.

Just sayin'.

Let's not forget these girls, even allowing for the above, which I don't dispute are earning about 8 / 10 times the average income compared to if they played at home. They have also pretty much all put their prices up, which they also did in 2016, despite the fact that the UK economy was booming pre-brexit, the UK economy is still doing well, it has just deflated some what since the vote.

So allowing for their price increases (which they seem to do regardless of the economy / inflation) they are not actually earning much different, there will always be fluctuations in exchange rates.

I also believe our property prices / rentals are more competitive than central Germany, though I have no hard evidence of that and I can't be arsed to research it at this time.

Whatever the reasons are, there is a shortage of good reliable girls in certain areas, and therefore a great opportunity for those that see the opportunity to make some serious wonga.

Late last year and earlier this year I was punting 3/4 times a week, in the last 3 weeks I have punted 4 times, I have the money, I just don't see anyone I want to spend it on.

Ming 

[sportbilly]

I pulled a civvy girl yesterday and we had a night of fun in the Hyatt.  Left at 4.00am to go to work and the hottest EE girl got in the lift which i got out of.

Certain she was visiting a client...boy do I wish I had asked for her number as she was tall and f ing delicious