The Phoenix Club and Barbara's attitude

[smiths]

I attended a party at Phoenix today, as I said I was. Now before I go any further, I am aware that there are members who think I am a tout or an ex prostitute. So if that is your belief, don't bother reading any further.
The good - Emma is back in charge, physically and verbally. Completely changed the atmosphere of the party.
The girls were great too. I got to party with Bia, Asia and Cindy who were all new to me. I also got to party with Ivana who I have seen at parties for the past 5 years. Bia is full of energy, Asia has the most realistic enhanced tits I have ever touched/sucked and Cindy decided to lay on a bed on her own during a quiet period and masturbate. Ivana has mixed reviews in the past but I always find her warm and attentive. She has the fittest body at Phoenix in my opinion.
The new flat is bigger and has more rooms - which means you can sit and chat if you want away from the partying. It feels more like the old LMP. But not quite.

The meh -  the place is still being refurbished. So it lacks that lived in, comfort that Lancaster Gate used to offer. Still needs quite a bit of tlc and Emma is committed to make it the best environment.
Julia was on the rota but no sign of her. So there were 4 not 5 girls to play with.

Also, Barbara is no longer in charge. Emma said she had listened to feedback about her and recognised she has been distracted and is as a result putting lots more energy into the new venue.

So if you want my opinion, it feels like a step in the right direction. If you are concerned about vfm then there are still big issues when compared to the old LMP days. The ratio was 2:1 and people calling speculatively were being turned away as the party was full.
Watch this space is my opinion.
I hope you feel that is balanced and objective.

I hope it is, you can do a review of this punt of course, more punters may well read reviews than regional board threads. Up to you obviously.

[Sinz]

I attended a party at Phoenix today, as I said I was. Now before I go any further, I am aware that there are members who think I am a tout or an ex prostitute. So if that is your belief, don't bother reading any further.
The good - Emma is back in charge, physically and verbally. Completely changed the atmosphere of the party.
The girls were great too. I got to party with Bia, Asia and Cindy who were all new to me. I also got to party with Ivana who I have seen at parties for the past 5 years. Bia is full of energy, Asia has the most realistic enhanced tits I have ever touched/sucked and Cindy decided to lay on a bed on her own during a quiet period and masturbate. Ivana has mixed reviews in the past but I always find her warm and attentive. She has the fittest body at Phoenix in my opinion.
The new flat is bigger and has more rooms - which means you can sit and chat if you want away from the partying. It feels more like the old LMP. But not quite.

The meh -  the place is still being refurbished. So it lacks that lived in, comfort that Lancaster Gate used to offer. Still needs quite a bit of tlc and Emma is committed to make it the best environment.
Julia was on the rota but no sign of her. So there were 4 not 5 girls to play with.

Also, Barbara is no longer in charge. Emma said she had listened to feedback about her and recognised she has been distracted and is as a result putting lots more energy into the new venue.

So if you want my opinion, it feels like a step in the right direction. If you are concerned about vfm then there are still big issues when compared to the old LMP days. The ratio was 2:1 and people calling speculatively were being turned away as the party was full.
Watch this space is my opinion.
I hope you feel that is balanced and objective.

Sounds like things are changing for the better, appreciate your review and as smiths stated it would be helpful if you can post this a separate review. 

[markpartylover]

Sounds like things are changing for the better, appreciate your review and as smiths stated it would be helpful if you can post this a separate review.

Yes, of course.

[notcalledchris]

Thanks.  I find that useful.  Good to hear M is still listening to feedback.  I partied at te old venue in its last week and had my first experience of Barbara.  Honestly didn't think she was too bad and she let me unload on her tounge which was nice, except for the tits being out of bounds - WTF!  Surely useable tits,  like cunt and mouth,  are essential in a WG.

[nickleupip]

I attended a party at Phoenix today, as I said I was. Now before I go any further, I am aware that there are members who think I am a tout or an ex prostitute. So if that is your belief, don't bother reading any further.
The good - Emma is back in charge, physically and verbally. Completely changed the atmosphere of the party.
The girls were great too. I got to party with Bia, Asia and Cindy who were all new to me. I also got to party with Ivana who I have seen at parties for the past 5 years. Bia is full of energy, Asia has the most realistic enhanced tits I have ever touched/sucked and Cindy decided to lay on a bed on her own during a quiet period and masturbate. Ivana has mixed reviews in the past but I always find her warm and attentive. She has the fittest body at Phoenix in my opinion.
The new flat is bigger and has more rooms - which means you can sit and chat if you want away from the partying. It feels more like the old LMP. But not quite.

The meh -  the place is still being refurbished. So it lacks that lived in, comfort that Lancaster Gate used to offer. Still needs quite a bit of tlc and Emma is committed to make it the best environment.
Julia was on the rota but no sign of her. So there were 4 not 5 girls to play with.

Also, Barbara is no longer in charge. Emma said she had listened to feedback about her and recognised she has been distracted and is as a result putting lots more energy into the new venue.

So if you want my opinion, it feels like a step in the right direction. If you are concerned about vfm then there are still big issues when compared to the old LMP days. The ratio was 2:1 and people calling speculatively were being turned away as the party was full.
Watch this space is my opinion.
I hope you feel that is balanced and objective.

I just had a bit of a moment... If you use the name Mark at TPC I think I know who you are, I must have attended the same party with you a couple of times... Ivanna has a soft spot for you if you are the one I am thinking of 

[markpartylover]

I just had a bit of a moment... If you use the name Mark at TPC I think I know who you are, I must have attended the same party with you a couple of times... Ivanna has a soft spot for you if you are the one I am thinking of 

I only have the one name!
Ivana does always look after me, that is for sure.
Yesterday there were 2 Marks in attendance. Asia told me it was a common name at TPC.

[fudi_maar]

Mark, did you use the name "PyramidGuy" on the old LMP forums? Then I know you as well.

[markpartylover]

Mark, did you use the name "PyramidGuy" on the old LMP forums? Then I know you as well.

That wasn't me, sorry

[smiths]

The punter Herbie has posted on an existing TPC review thread today that he want to TPC on Tuesday and there were 13 punters to 5 WGs. So 3 over the advertised max ratio of 2.1 which is one of TPCs main selling points as it was LMPs. And a main reason they are so expensive compared to some other party providers. Really piss poor.

[TT115]

where is this Herbie review I cant find it anywhere

[TrevorN]

where is this Herbie review I cant find it anywhere

Made my first visit to the new venue on Tuesday for the 1pm party. Location is very close to the previous location for those who remember. There was one change from the advertised line-up with Beatrice replacing Abbey, but given i have not seen either of them previously this was not a big issue. Party venue is not quiet up to the high standards of previous places and certainly needs a lick of paint and made to feel a bit more welcoming. It appears Emma has taken on board some of the justified comments made on here and was there to organise things, however thats were the good news stops..... now the bad points.... (a) the party was well over-booked with at least 13 guys the time counted which the girls had also noticed and were a bit hacked off about. (b) There appears to be no robes nowadays and you are asked to keep your towel with you throughout the party. (c) something which another poster has mentioned is that it is just sooo hot with no fans etc, just means all the guys and girls are dripping with sweat, and there is nothing more uncomfortable that lying on a wet bed from others sweat ....
Did still manage to play with 4 of the girls Kasia, Daniella, Jasmine, and Beatrice which i suppose the just makes it a Neutral review

Lying Pimp Emma as you can see £160 for over subscribed party more then the advertised  2:1 ratio.

[jeezyuk]

Lying Pimp Emma as you can see £160 for over subscribed party more then the advertised  2:1 ratio.

Em please take note and get TPC into shape

[SirCharles]

Em please take note and get TPC into shape

Em pls take note and bring your daughters that we want gangbang them (and you, together with them) 

[Londonengland]

WTF man, I agree the glory days of LMP are well gone and TPC has become just another disappointing London party experience but Emma has always tried to give value for money and it's  cunt remarks like these which makes her keep her distance.

[Sinz]

WTF man, I agree the glory days of LMP are well gone and TPC has become just another disappointing London party experience but Emma has always tried to give value for money and it's  cunt remarks like these which makes her keep her distance.

And who the hell are you to make that remark ? Her bitch ?

[smiths]

That wasn't me, sorry

And now banned. When will you people learn you aren't smart enough to fool all of us and admin for long. I knew you were dodgy quickly.

[Londonengland]

No man just another whoremonger just like your fine self, just prettier I hope :-)

Even with standards dropping at TPC name me another party pimp that is like Emma? Or a London party that you know you won't have a horrible experience. To date the only party that came close was scarlet Rose (I think that was the name?)

[Londonengland]

Banned for what ??? Not being a cunt..

[smiths]

Banned for what ??? Not being a cunt..

Banned for being a white knight tout slagging UKP off, if you don't like it take it up with admin who banned them. They were low life and low lifes aren't welcome on here.

[TrevorN]

WTF man, I agree the glory days of LMP are well gone and TPC has become just another disappointing London party experience but Emma has always tried to give value for money and it's  cunt remarks like these which makes her keep her distance.

Emma giving value for money lol . £160 for a 2hr party with over subscribed punters . Lying of which girls attending  . Punters not allowed to play with few girls tits ...walking off to take mobile calls during party time.. The recent reports are all there to view . Emma providing VFM ..Total Bullshit

[jeezyuk]

Emma giving value for money lol . £160 for a 2hr party with over subscribed punters . Lying of which girls attending  . Punters not allowed to play with few girls tits ...walking off to take mobile calls during party time.. The recent reports are all there to view . Emma providing VFM ..Total Bullshit

Agree

[vw]

Banned for what ??? Not being a cunt..

Banning reason - White-knight tout slagging off site.

[smiths]

Agree

Really, well that was what I was posting as well as calling posters out, a new one I knew was well dodgy, and now banned as a white knight tout slagging UKP off. According to you I was posting bullshit and should be ignored. You are fucking clueless.

In reality TPC have been lying to some punters on here as they have posted with the max 2.1 ratio being exceeded, and/or the line-up being changed without it being posted on their Twitter which they could easily do but choose not to

So to Em who no doubt reads UKP avidly just be honest like you used to be when running LMP, keep to the max 2.1 ratio at each and every party and inform punters of changes to your line-ups. If you want to change the ratio that's up to you but inform punters on your site of the new max and if its over 2.1 which is a main reason you charge £160 for 2 hours cut your prices to compensate punters.

As you well know how parties work generally is the more punters but less WGs the cheaper it costs, the more WGs but less punters the more it costs. What you are doing is charging both the high price AND adding more punters exceeding the max ratio you advertise at at least some parties as reported on here. That's low life tactics Em and you know it. Sort yourself out and get back to offering ALL your punters a good service.

[Sinz]

Agree

Seems like you are switching boats as soon as you can.

[Sinz]

Really, well that was what I was posting as well as calling posters out, a new one I knew was well dodgy, and now banned as a white knight tout slagging UKP off. According to you I was posting bullshit and should be ignored. You are fucking clueless.

In reality TPC have been lying to some punters on here as they have posted with the max 2.1 ratio being exceeded, and/or the line-up being changed without it being posted on their Twitter which they could easily do but choose not to

So to Em who no doubt reads UKP avidly just be honest like you used to be when running LMP, keep to the max 2.1 ratio at each and every party and inform punters of changes to your line-ups. If you want to change the ratio that's up to you but inform punters on your site of the new max and if its over 2.1 which is a main reason you charge £160 for 2 hours cut your prices to compensate punters.

As you well know how parties work generally is the more punters but less WGs the cheaper it costs, the more WGs but less punters the more it costs. What you are doing is charging both the high price AND adding more punters exceeding the max ratio you advertise at at least some parties as reported on here. That's low life tactics Em and you know it. Sort yourself out and get back to offering ALL your punters a good service.

+100 Post of the Day

[smiths]

Banned for what ??? Not being a cunt..

Banned for being a white knight tout slagging UKP off, and they were a cunt. Now your banned for having a bad attitude, your loss will be felt, not. A member since Sept least year and you just decided to post 3 posts all related to TPC in all those months. What a contribution.

Thanks to admin once again.

[The_Don]

Banned for being a white knight tout slagging UKP off, and they were a cunt. Now your banned for having a bad attitude, your loss will be felt, not. A member since Sept least year and you just decided to post 3 posts all related to TPC in all those months. What a contribution.

Thanks to admin once again.

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[vw]

Banned for being a white knight tout slagging UKP off, and they were a cunt. Now your banned for having a bad attitude, your loss will be felt, not. A member since Sept least year and you just decided to post 3 posts all related to TPC in all those months. What a contribution.

Thanks to admin once again.

Is this part of the prossynet migration, expect a few more of those that don't get the ethos of the site turning up.

[Sinz]

 

Banned for being a white knight tout slagging UKP off, and they were a cunt. Now your banned for having a bad attitude, your loss will be felt, not. A member since Sept least year and you just decided to post 3 posts all related to TPC in all those months. What a contribution.

Thanks to admin once again.

[The_Don]

Is this part of the prossynet migration, expect a few more of those that don't get the ethos of the site turning up.

This is one reasons why, UKP is still alive and kicking and others sites/forums are dead and long forgotten.

[smiths]

Is this part of the prossynet migration, expect a few more of those that don't get the ethos of the site turning up.

Could be, but whats happening is TPC is now lying to some punters as they have posted about the advertised max ratio of 2.1 being exceeded, and not informing punters of any line-up changes. And some of TPCs white knights are charging to the rescue, its fucking sickening to see it on here. A number have come out of the woodwork recently or like that Mark WK tout joined who may of been Em herself going by the diabolical attitude to give a lying pimp a helping hand on here.

And there will be more to come out of the woodwork I reckon, Em has clearly decided being honest isn't for her anymore.

[jeezyuk]

Could be, but whats happening is TPC is now lying to some punters as they have posted about the advertised max ratio of 2.1 being exceeded, and not informing punters of any line-up changes. And some of TPCs white knights are charging to the rescue, its fucking sickening to see it on here. A number have come out of the woodwork recently or like that Mark WK tout joined who may of been Em herself going by the diabolical attitude to give a lying pimp a helping hand on here.

And there will be more to come out of the woodwork I reckon, Em has clearly decided being honest isn't for her anymore.

I reckon it's Em or Barbara haha. Whatever happened to Emily? Things were semi-decent with her hosting

[TT115]

the party today 22 july 2017 line up Cindy, Lila, Kasia, Anita, Mel. Anita was a no show today Barbara joined in because the party was quite full not sure if it exceeded the 2:1 ratio though was pretty close though if it didn't, The new girl Cindy is pretty cute, small implants, tattooed, quiet sweet personality reminds me a little like Talida

[TrevorN]

the party today 22 july 2017 line up Cindy, Lila, Kasia, Anita, Mel. Anita was a no show today Barbara joined in because the party was quite full not sure if it exceeded the 2:1 ratio though was pretty close though if it didn't, The new girl Cindy is pretty cute, small implants, tattooed, quiet sweet personality reminds me a little like Talida

Same old . Just checked the Twitter . No update of changing Anita .So the useless Barbara joins in who is known to slack and refuse's to have her tits touched played with . So only 4 girls who give a service and Barbara useless.  Thanks for letting us know . Barbara is the girl who covers for a girl who is known well in advance who won't be turning up ?? . Emma you in charge now and sorting it out as your White Knights  said . Fuck all has improved ....

[fudi_maar]

I was thinking of going along on the 22nd July, and am glad I didn't, given that Barbara was substituting for Anita. It's bad enough having Lila at a party (nice girl, but does NOTHING for me at all).....but having two girls who are a no-go makes for a mediocre party experience.
I've just checked the agenda for the coming week, and there's only one day which looks good to me.

I know that this is a sensitive and a hot topic right now, and I'm not trying to fuel the fires, but the problem with TPC (for me) is :
- there's a good chance that there will be only 4 girls rather than 5
- there's a good chance that one (or even two) of the advertised girls will not show up and be replaced by Barbara

So what seem like a "Oh, 3 of the 5 girls look great on the rota for this day", could end up with 1 great girl, 1 OK girl, and 2 duds when you actually turn up.

On a positive note though, when a party is good....there's nothing like it.

[TrevorN]

I was thinking of going along on the 22nd July, and am glad I didn't, given that Barbara was substituting for Anita. It's bad enough having Lila at a party (nice girl, but does NOTHING for me at all).....but having two girls who are a no-go makes for a mediocre party experience.
I've just checked the agenda for the coming week, and there's only one day which looks good to me.

I know that this is a sensitive and a hot topic right now, and I'm not trying to fuel the fires, but the problem with TPC (for me) is :
- there's a good chance that there will be only 4 girls rather than 5
- there's a good chance that one (or even two) of the advertised girls will not show up and be replaced by Barbara

So what seem like a "Oh, 3 of the 5 girls look great on the rota for this day", could end up with 1 great girl, 1 OK girl, and 2 duds when you actually turn up.

On a positive note though, when a party is good....there's nothing like it.

A pimp running a bait and switch party outfit with dud useless girls .

[jeezyuk]

I've had a good experience with Lila/Vera as reviewed - but honestly I'd walk if I got there and Barbara was in my lineup. We pay good money for these parties

[smiths]

I've had a good experience with Lila/Vera as reviewed - but honestly I'd walk if I got there and Barbara was in my lineup. We pay good money for these parties

And that's another one connected to TPC banned, that's 3, fuck off to bad rubbish.

[Kingy28]

I was thinking of going along on the 22nd July, and am glad I didn't, given that Barbara was substituting for Anita. It's bad enough having Lila at a party (nice girl, but does NOTHING for me at all).....but having two girls who are a no-go makes for a mediocre party experience.
I've just checked the agenda for the coming week, and there's only one day which looks good to me.

I know that this is a sensitive and a hot topic right now, and I'm not trying to fuel the fires, but the problem with TPC (for me) is :
- there's a good chance that there will be only 4 girls rather than 5
- there's a good chance that one (or even two) of the advertised girls will not show up and be replaced by Barbara

So what seem like a "Oh, 3 of the 5 girls look great on the rota for this day", could end up with 1 great girl, 1 OK girl, and 2 duds when you actually turn up.

On a positive note though, when a party is good....there's nothing like it.

I completely agree with the various points that you've made here

[smiths]

I see its now 4 banned, thanks admin, as 1 post has been deleted from a poster who was a member for about 18 months but never posted until they felt the need to have their say about TPC being discussed. You fuckers wont win on UKP, until and unless TPC starts being honest for ALL punters criticism will continue.

I note the max 2.1 ratio remains for next weeks schedule with 5 WGs per party.

[TrevorN]

3 cunts, white knights all connected to TPC ( The Phoenix Club ) .All Banned . Then admin getting threatened with emails straight after their bannings . Well dodgy . Emma your  reading this ?? You or your fanboys.. ass lickers et all can't silence UKP,  you silly pimp of a lady .

[smiths]

Warning to TPC punters. Either Em the TPC pimp herself posing as a poster called Mark Party Lover who recently got banned off here for being a WK tout slagging off UKP, or she gave Mark the 2 false names I had given Em when it was LMP, and I only used both those names in dealings with TPC have tried to out me using those names on Twitter. 

I dared to criticise and challenge TPC on here and they try to out me. Do not give TPC your real name is my advice. Em has proved herself to be a low life to me now.

[smiths]

Another 1 banned today linked to TPC, thats now 5, a right well dodgy prick called RichardTheThird who was banned for being a troll BUT was also on here as Clit Teaser as admin had said in bannings. As RichardTheThird in one post on 24/12/16 he posted about giving TPC a try implying he hadn't punted their before, funny that as as Clit Teaser he had done a positive review, his only review on here, on TPC in May 2016. So a troll and double nicking lying low life.

[Sinz]

Another 1 banned today linked to TPC, thats now 5, a right well dodgy prick called RichardTheThird who was banned for being a troll BUT was also on here as Clit Teaser as admin had said in bannings. As RichardTheThird in one post on 24/12/16 he posted about giving TPC a try implying he hadn't punted their before, funny that as as Clit Teaser he had done a positive review, his only review on here, on TPC in May 2016. So a troll and double nicking lying low life.

With the looks of it we might need to start a thread for - TPC's Banned Low Life Touts

Em surely knows the importance of having a good rating on UKP, but has knickers twisted up and is heading in the wrong direction by putting up with a fight with punters who speak out the truth and rather believes in fales advertising and luring customers.

[TrevorN]

Just to let people know that TPC is short for The Phoenix Club a party provider run by a madam pimp Em who is not providing a honest fair ratio party,  and with yesterday's news she and her fluffies tried to out a highly respected member on social media

My advice to anyone posting about .The Phoenix Club is to write in full rather then as TPC .

[smiths]

With the looks of it we might need to start a thread for - TPC's Banned Low Life Touts

Em surely knows the importance of having a good rating on UKP, but has knickers twisted up and is heading in the wrong direction by putting up with a fight with punters who speak out the truth and rather believes in fales advertising and luring customers.

Its 100% clear that RichardTheThird aka Clit Teaser was lying, it all smacks of trying to manipulate UKP to me, and who benefits from positive reviews on here, the TPC pimp, obviously because they may attract punters to TPC. It stinks.

[SirCharles]

Just to let people know that TPC is short for The Phoenix Club a party provider run by a madam pimp Em who is not providing a honest fair ratio party,  and with yesterday's news she and her fluffies tried to out a highly respected member on social media

My advice to anyone posting about .The Phoenix Club is to write in full rather then as TPC .

The old madame pimp Emma (she has probably also botox on her brain if even public exposed herself in TV instead of keeping low profile) shouldn't be worried about being incriminated for pimping, instead of bashing poor punters who want only pay a fair price for their habits and not ripped off? We also provided important feedback here so, what she does want from us?

[The_Don]

what she does want from us?

To rip punters off.

By not providing what they, advertise or agreed 

When they (TPC) get challenged, they resort to low life tactics.

[Sinz]

Another TPC white-knight Banned

TT115

I was starting to think, finally Em has got the message, but her greed bites the dust again.

[Full Moon]

Not really sure what happened there tbh, he replied on my review that he didn't like a girl at Phoenix then got banned??