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I do neither, all my punting is done with my own hard-earned, but don't let that get in the way of your sad delusions!  :rolleyes:

Well you are hardly going to admit it again are you. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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I don't jump to your tune you pimps arselicker. Stuff you advice about where and what I should post where the sun doesn't shine. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Still no answer then, you dumb fuck who contradicts himself in the same post.  :crazy:
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Still no answer then, you dumb fuck who contradicts himself in the same post.  :crazy:

 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Does anyone know the approx location TPC has moved to?

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Does anyone know the approx location TPC has moved to?

Edgware Road flat. Passcode in effect. I enquired yesterday out of curiosity. There is a link to the flat online. Just get the address from them and google it. It looks great.

I won't post it on here though as it seems to be common practice to keep locations off the forum.

Google maps says it's couple minutes walk from the circle line station.

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« Last Edit: July 08, 2017, 09:03:17 am by jeezyuk »

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Edgware Road flat. Passcode in effect. I enquired yesterday out of curiosity. There is a link to the flat online. Just get the address from them and google it. It looks great.

I won't post it on here though as it seems to be common practice to keep locations off the forum.

Google maps says it's couple minutes walk from the circle line station.

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Sounds a lot like the last LMP place from 2014.  :unknown:

Apologies for getting involved in the argument...polite discussion from now onwards...hopefully!  :blush:

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Sounds a lot like the last LMP place from 2014.  :unknown:

Apologies for getting involved in the argument...polite discussion from now onwards...hopefully!  :blush:

Hopefully it is not or it will likely get busted again

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Sounds a lot like the last LMP place from 2014.  :unknown:

Apologies for getting involved in the argument..polite discussion from now onwards...hopefully!  :blush:.

Till next time some one says something negative about your favourite party provider who give you discounts just like Divines .

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It's getting a bit tiresome the continued spat between VT and Smiths, same insults traded each time. I think most sensible people here treat comments from "perceived" touts with a pinch of salt, however they sometimes do have some validity also. Lets get back to subject..... agree what a poor line-up for first day at new place, that will not help the takings, which we all know is the reason for the move, although am sure the management will spin a different story on the reasons for the move.

What do you mean by this - The previous location prohibited bookings?  :unknown:

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Till next time some one says something negative about your favourite party provider who give you discounts just like Divines .

 :hi:

...or some one-review-wonder starts trolling the thread...again!  :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: July 08, 2017, 09:51:02 pm by vt »

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I'm hoping to get along Monday afternoon !

Will report back

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What do you mean by this - The previous location prohibited bookings?  :unknown:

Sorry not sure understand the question. I have heard that the reason they have given is the "issue" with neighbours from an empty house!!, while we all know is due to the lack of numbers and general fall in standard of the parties over the past few years.

Personally am hoping the new place reverts back to the old formula of more than one room instead of just the one big one.

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Sorry not sure understand the question. I have heard that the reason they have given is the "issue" with neighbours from an empty house!!, while we all know is due to the lack of numbers and general fall in standard of the parties over the past few years.

Personally am hoping the new place reverts back to the old formula of more than one room instead of just the one big one.

There are neighbouring properties on both sides. I was told there are neighbours the other side from the Middle East who holiday there every Summer, so maybe that is the issue, as it is now Summer.  :unknown:

Obviously, the place they've been using is a lot of Sq ft in a prime location in C London, the rent must be colossal, so I'm sure a saving on that cost would be welcome.

If they've returned to the flat used before nr Edgware Rd, it was a multi-room set-up there, the Lounge had 2 or 3 beds there was a bedroom with a bed & a couch, there was another bedroom with twin beds IIRC.
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A very decent lineup tomorrow, but I can't make it.  :scare:

I quite like the one room setup, although I never experienced the multiple room setup, so can't really compare.

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A very decent lineup tomorrow, but I can't make it.  :scare:

I quite like the one room setup, although I never experienced the multiple room setup, so can't really compare.

They both have pluses & minuses, I'm neutral on the issue overall.

I liked the look of tomorrow too.

Also good to see Toni back in the gallery this week.

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Also good to see Toni back in the gallery this week.

Hardly likely to improve the level of service provided at TPC ! whilst a very nice looking girl, was certainly not one of the hardest working ones there previously and can't imagine that situation will change. Obviously the porn industry must be going through a quiet time to lure her back to the parties.

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Also good to see Toni back in the gallery this week.

That is very pleasant indeed. I have had the pleasure only once in Edgware Road and I still remember her... A luxury blonde definitely.

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Hardly likely to improve the level of service provided at TPC ! whilst a very nice looking girl, was certainly not one of the hardest working ones there previously and can't imagine that situation will change. Obviously the porn industry must be going through a quiet time to lure her back to the parties.

I never put her in the Premier League there, perhaps a Championship girl, she does have a body made for sin, one of the few girls that had me cumming in doggy with her hip-rolling, cock-milking action. Although she wasn't a fire-starter, she was very easy-going, she always used to allow me kissing and gentle fingering. Definitely a girl I wouldn't mind meeting again.

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If the recent Toni in the gallery is the same as the one that used to work there, then that is great great news! Toni is a porn star (AKA Karlie Simon - google and enjoy the videos on pornhub :-) ) and I really liked her. Has that porn star look about her, but with an amazingly nice attitude. Very pleasant girl. My fantasy now is to get a double BJ from her and Jasmine (another English hottie)......ahhh.......what a wonderful life.....

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Toni and Jasmine  :wacko:

That is the same Toni that was there before (she gets very pissed if you connect her to her porn alter-ego as it is bad for business apparently - as I innocently found out to my cost).
Jasmine also strips and lap dances. I love her attitude and her fuller figure..
What a combo that would be..

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FYI - If anyone is thinking of going today (Fri 14th), then Amy and Luiza have been replaced by Barbara and Maria.


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I've been overseas unfortunately, so haven't made it to TPC recently.

Has anyone had the pleasure ? Anyone got feedback on the venue etc. ?

If not I'll report back in a couple weeks

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I am going on Monday lunchtime. Happy to report back. No idea who is on the rota, as I don't really care (within reason)... :wackogirl:

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I am going on Monday lunchtime. Happy to report back. No idea who is on the rota, as I don't really care (within reason)... :wackogirl:

No one gives a shit about what your going to do, because you are a tout.

Claims to be visiting TPC for 10 years yet not a single review other than touting attempts

I have been going to LMP and Phoenix for about 10 years. In my experience (and it is just my experience) Phoenix did go through a bit of a rough patch. I have had 2 great parties recently, however. So I would still give it a try. What I do think has changed for the worse is the mentality of the men. Much less party minded and more one on one and waiting for a girl to be free. That to me isn't the point of partying. I love having a girl suck me off while someone else is fucking her and she has another guy's cock in her hands.
I am going to Bella's Belles in a week or so, to see how that is. I have also attended a small private party organised by Chanelle (3 girls and 5 guys).
I have no alliiegance to any provider.

Moreover blaming punters attitude, if you are not a disgruntled pro$$ie or pimp, what else could you be ?

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Good morning Sinz. That made me smile. I can absolutely see why you would believe that. I am afraid I am not a tout. Just a punter sharing his experiences. Only recently on UKP site. Feel free to have a look at my twitter feed @markpartylover to see more if you want.
And feel free to completely ignore me, as is your right. I loved LMP and was sad when it shut. Phoenix has never reached the same level, but is still much more fun (for me at least) than being in a room with one girl. What I say about the guys attending is my experience and may not be that of others.
I am going to Bella's Belles in a couple of weeks to see what that is like. Happy to share my experience there too and feel free to completely ignore it.
So I suppose if being a tout is someone who knows what they like and has just started sharing it, then yes I am guilty of that??
Have a lovely Saturday and I will look forward to my party on Monday

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Good morning Sinz. That made me smile. I can absolutely see why you would believe that. I am afraid I am not a tout. Just a punter sharing his experiences. Only recently on UKP site. Feel free to have a look at my twitter feed @markpartylover to see more if you want.
And feel free to completely ignore me, as is your right. I loved LMP and was sad when it shut. Phoenix has never reached the same level, but is still much more fun (for me at least) than being in a room with one girl. What I say about the guys attending is my experience and may not be that of others.
I am going to Bella's Belles in a couple of weeks to see what that is like. Happy to share my experience there too and feel free to completely ignore it.
So I suppose if being a tout is someone who knows what they like and has just started sharing it, then yes I am guilty of that??
Have a lovely Saturday and I will look forward to my party on Monday

Yes, I have been reading your Twitter posts for quite a while and you have always sounded like a genuine punter to me. You retweet & interact with many different providers, not just TPC, just as I do!  :thumbsup:

Sadly, some on here believe that if you talk about what you like doing and about where you're spending your own hard-earned cash, then you must be a tout or in the pay of the provider involved...if that provider is one that they have judged unworthy of any praise, despite never having visited the provider.  :rolleyes:

By this twisted logic, everyone who reviews any provider positively on here is a tout and an arselicker!!  :wacko:
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Every one is entitled to their opinion. I shall carry on sharing my experiences and hope someone finds them useful. I am sure some will find them useless and of little value. I appreciate what other people say about what they have learned and factor it in to my punting choices.

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Every one is entitled to their opinion. I shall carry on sharing my experiences and hope someone finds them useful. I am sure some will find them useless and of little value. I appreciate what other people say about what they have learned and factor it in to my punting choices.

You sound like a sensible chap. I think that's what we all try and do. Look forward to more informative posts in the future.  :thumbsup:

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If I go back to the original point of this post, I think I agree with what was said. LMP was an amazing experience, when Emma had close control and Moss would sit upstairs holding court. I loved the anniversary and christmas parties in particular.
Since the move to Phoenix, it has lost some of it's sparkle and is a bit more hit and miss. I have tried to engage with the girls and with Barbara when I am there (perhaps I talk too much) but on the whole I am made to feel welcome by them and they tend to treat me quite well.
I don't like the 1 room set up and it all feels more functional and a bit flat. Even small things like the selection of food and drink available has become more basic.
When Emma is there, I don't see her getting involved with the girls - unlike in the old days when she would bark instructions at them and at me (for not licking a pussy when i was resting).
Having said that, I still go back and I am looking for something that recaptures the old LMP.
If that makes me a tout, a pimp or a frustrated prossie then so be it..

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If I go back to the original point of this post, I think I agree with what was said. LMP was an amazing experience, when Emma had close control and Moss would sit upstairs holding court. I loved the anniversary and christmas parties in particular.
Since the move to Phoenix, it has lost some of it's sparkle and is a bit more hit and miss. I have tried to engage with the girls and with Barbara when I am there (perhaps I talk too much) but on the whole I am made to feel welcome by them and they tend to treat me quite well.
I don't like the 1 room set up and it all feels more functional and a bit flat. Even small things like the selection of food and drink available has become more basic.
When Emma is there, I don't see her getting involved with the girls - unlike in the old days when she would bark instructions at them and at me (for not licking a pussy when i was resting).
Having said that, I still go back and I am looking for something that recaptures the old LMP.
If that makes me a tout, a pimp or a frustrated prossie then so be it..

If you attended the anniversary and Christmas parties at LMP when they were based in Lancaster Gate we may have met as I often attended both the 4 hour parties with the 2 hour break in between. The multi-room layout downstairs worked perfectly in those days for me, good to have a wander about from room to room with Em also always wandering about encouraging punters and supervising the WGs though most were good anyway, those who weren't got the push. WGs like Jewels, Antonia, Jennifer, Jasmin got on with offering their punters a good service, they didn't need telling.

What helped make an LMP party to me was Em being their and often seeing other punters I had met their before, as a very regular regular this happened a lot. It was party central then, I never had a bad party their, that's some going as Em and Moss were always on top of things and wanting to get punters return custom. When I first went in 2008 it was £120 for 2 hours or £200 for 4 hours or £300 for 6 hours, great VFM then it went up to £140 for 2 hours, £240 for 4 hours, i don't think i went to 3 parties on the same day after the price rise. Still VFM to me after the rise, i wanted 4 or 5 WGs that i liked to be at the party. The rota was rarely wrong and when i rang to check if there was a change i was always told. It didn't happen a lot that any of the WGs didn't show but Em got another one in most times.

Its a great shame that TPC isn't as good as LMP as punters i know and trust who have been to TPC have told me, its now hit and miss and for them mostly miss, hopefully for all punters this will improve. Em should be ensuring it does and i find it a shame she has allowed things to slip compared to LMP. And she is charging £160 for 2 hours but with 2-3 less WGs per party which is the same as LMP at his end. That's not VFM for me anymore, each and every party would have to be LMP level for it to be so.

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If I go back to the original point of this post, I think I agree with what was said. LMP was an amazing experience, when Emma had close control and Moss would sit upstairs holding court. I loved the anniversary and christmas parties in particular.
Since the move to Phoenix, it has lost some of it's sparkle and is a bit more hit and miss. I have tried to engage with the girls and with Barbara when I am there (perhaps I talk too much) but on the whole I am made to feel welcome by them and they tend to treat me quite well.
I don't like the 1 room set up and it all feels more functional and a bit flat. Even small things like the selection of food and drink available has become more basic.
When Emma is there, I don't see her getting involved with the girls - unlike in the old days when she would bark instructions at them and at me (for not licking a pussy when i was resting).
Having said that, I still go back and I am looking for something that recaptures the old LMP.
If that makes me a tout, a pimp or a frustrated prossie then so be it..

I'm broadly in agreement with most of that. The lack of 'close control' is probably where the issues troubling punters have crept in.

I believe Em was criticised by some for being too 'controlling', that was why she took more of a back seat, but I do there's probably a middle ground somewhere there between Em 'barking orders' and appearing pretty uninterested.

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If you attended the anniversary and Christmas parties at LMP when they were based in Lancaster Gate we may have met as I often attended both the 4 hour parties with the 2 hour break in between. The multi-room layout downstairs worked perfectly in those days for me, good to have a wander about from room to room with Em also always wandering about encouraging punters and supervising the WGs though most were good anyway, those who weren't got the push. WGs like Jewels, Antonia, Jennifer, Jasmin got on with offering their punters a good service, they didn't need telling.

What helped make an LMP party to me was Em being their and often seeing other punters I had met their before, as a very regular regular this happened a lot. It was party central then, I never had a bad party their, that's some going as Em and Moss were always on top of things and wanting to get punters return custom. When I first went in 2008 it was £120 for 2 hours or £200 for 4 hours or £300 for 6 hours, great VFM then it went up to £140 for 2 hours, £240 for 4 hours, i don't think i went to 3 parties on the same day after the price rise. Still VFM to me after the rise, i wanted 4 or 5 WGs that i liked to be at the party. The rota was rarely wrong and when i rang to check if there was a change i was always told. It didn't happen a lot that any of the WGs didn't show but Em got another one in most times.

Its a great shame that TPC isn't as good as LMP as punters i know and trust who have been to TPC have told me, its now hit and miss and for them mostly miss, hopefully for all punters this will improve. Em should be ensuring it does and i find it a shame she has allowed things to slip compared to LMP. And she is charging £160 for 2 hours but with 2-3 less WGs per party which is the same as LMP at his end. That's not VFM for me anymore, each and every party would have to be LMP level for it to be so.

That's definitely the most reasonable I've heard you post recently. I can agree with pretty much all of it, though I never attended a Big party pre-2011, but I do remember Jewels, Jennifer etc. from those days.

I take onboard what you say that you don't see it as VFM for you anymore if you are comparing it with LMP 7-8 yrs ago at cheaper prices and more girls. But we don't have the luxury of a time machine to transport us back to 2009-10, so we need to compare what TPC offers NOW in COMPARISON with other CURRENT party providers and then make a judgment of whether we still believe it to be worth attending or not. Maybe different punters will come to different conclusions. Mark and I and others do currently still think it's worth it, but that could change in the future if it continues to drift and we have bad experiences there.

I think what we all agree on is that we would like to see Em pick it up by the scruff of the neck and give it a good shake and reclaim the position LMP once held.
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I take onboard what you say that you don't see it as VFM for you anymore if you are comparing it with LMP 7-8 yrs ago at cheaper prices and more girls. But we don't have the luxury of a time machine to transport us back to 2009-10, so we need to compare what TPC offers NOW in COMPARISON with other CURRENT party providers and then make a judgment of whether we still believe it to be worth attending or not

That kinda presuupposes that some party provider must be VFM. It's perfectly possible at any given time for none of them to be VFM.
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BTW, I tried another party the other day, XXX parties at Hot Box in Northampton, here's my review:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=151919.0

As you can see I did have fun there with some lovely girls and I do think it offers fair VFM for punters at £120 for 2hrs.

If I was forced to make a comparison with TPC, assuming I chose a TPC line-up of girls I fancy vs this line-up at XXX (which was the best I've noticed there in months of watching), I would say that TPC would win in terms of quality of looks, it would be a close-run thing in terms of attitude & friendliness, but XXX would win in terms of services provided & allowed.

I judge both as worthy competitors for my punting budget, bearing in mind that TPC is a bit more outlay, my preference for either would depend on the exact line-up on the day.

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That kinda presuupposes that some party provider must be VFM. It's perfectly possible at any given time for none of them to be VFM.

They are all significantly cheaper per hr than 1-2-1 punting, so by that measure they offer better VFM providing you don't mind sharing the girls.

TPC is one of the priciest at £80ph, but with the current ratios, you get non-stop action there, a lot of of it 1-2-1 and often FFM, so if you fancy the girls, it could certainly represent VFM.

Obviously if you don't fancy the girls because they are munters or are are unfriendly or the place is such a sausage-fest that you can't get near the girls, then even a £50 party would be poor VFM.

So they have to be judged on what they offer versus the outlay.
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That's definitely the most reasonable I've heard you post recently. I can agree with pretty much all of it, though I never attended a Big party pre-2011, but I do remember Jewels, Jennifer etc. from those days.

I take onboard what you say that you don't see it as VFM for you anymore if you are comparing it with LMP 7-8 yrs ago at cheaper prices and more girls. But we don't have the luxury of a time machine to transport us back to 2009-10, so we need to compare what TPC offers NOW in COMPARISON with other CURRENT party providers and then make a judgment of whether we still believe it to be worth attending or not. Maybe different punters will come to different conclusions. Mark and I and others do currently still think it's worth it, but that could change in the future if it continues to drift and we have bad experiences there.

I think what we all agree on is that we would like to see Em pick it up by the scruff of the neck and give it a good shake and reclaim the position LMP once held.

You or me aren't in control of what "we need to" on here, I am free to post what I want as you are. I replied to Marks post. Punters will decide which party providers to punt at.

My advice is try ALL they are interested in and find the one or ones they want to return to.

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You or me aren't in control of what "we need to" on here, I am free to post what I want as you are. I replied to Marks post. Punters will decide which party providers to punt at.

My advice is try ALL they are interested in and find the one or ones they want to return to.

Exactly!  :thumbsup:

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No one gives a shit about what your going to do, because you are a tout.

Claims to be visiting TPC for 10 years yet not a single review other than touting attempts

Moreover blaming punters attitude, if you are not a disgruntled pro$$ie or pimp, what else could you be ?
I must have missed your apology?
Why so quick to judge? What do you have to hide?

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I must have missed your apology?
Why so quick to judge? What do you have to hide?

Aw bless, did I hurt your feelings Marky boy ?

Move along, I have better things to do than read your fantasies.

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Aw bless, did I hurt your feelings Marky boy ?

Move along, I have better things to do than read your fantasies.

Fair enough  :drinks:
PS I do enjoy reading your reviews. Tells me I need to experiment a bit more

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Can someone tell Emma that her prices must come down? Barbara, new venue, all other bulls..it, the bottom line is that there is an offer out there and TPC is mispriced, other than EM lazy now and poor management from her
VT, if you keep on claiming of being so introduce and should act, thxs

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* keep on claiming of being so well introduceD...

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Can someone tell Emma that her prices must come down? Barbara, new venue, all other bulls..it, the bottom line is that there is an offer out there and TPC is mispriced, other than EM lazy now and poor management from her
VT, if you keep on claiming of being so introduce and should act, thxs

I visit semi-regularly, perhaps once a month on average. I occasionally speak to Em if she's there and free to talk when I'm having a break, but I don't really feel as if I can tell her how to run her business. I'm just one client among many, so what I personally may want to see isn't necessarily what others might want. I believe she does sometimes read this forum as she has referred to certain posts here in the past, so I'm pretty sure she is probably taking note of the varied punter feedback here.

As to the cost, I think the attendances did slip when it increased from £140 to £160, tipping over that psychological barrier of £150. It does cost a lot of money to put on low-ratio parties with quality girls in a plush venue. Other parties only manage to be cheaper by allowing one or more of these to slip (higher ratios, grubby venues, less attractive girls). Whether it would make sense to drop the price slightly to try and fill the parties or not I don't know. It certainly would be better financially from the organiser's POV to have full parties at a lower price than half-full ones at a higher price.
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EM lazy now

Of course she will be . She has made it . Massive mansion in Surrey ..fast cars..designer wardrobes..Television fame late last year on channel 5 I think .
She has worked really hard to achieve that ..or got her girls at LMP/TPC to get to where she has ..
In all honesty she put Barbra in charge incase if she was to get busted. .it will be one hell of a POCA .
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Following a positive review on here on a TPC party earlier where the reviewer stated the max 2-1 ratio was exceeded at the party he attended I have had a close look at the TPC site. I note it states it ISNT a brothel but a lifestyle club, for punters bothered and believing this total rubbish, TPC like all sex parties and certainly those that take cash in exchange for sex IS a brothel. I see it even states it isn't sex for cash. ANY brothel can be raided and closed at any time the police choose in reality.

The police will know about established brothels in their area that advertise for punters. Punters unaware in my view should be made aware its a brothel and realise it could be raided, though hopefully for them it wont be.


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In the interests of comparing what it says on TPC to what it says on Bellas site. It basically says the money paid by punters is to cover expenses, it IS of course to pay the WGs with and presumably the pimp and for the use of the premises, but no claim of it not being a brothel. They do mention swingers, any women getting paid to attend to have sexual contact in exchange for cash is of course a WG.

On the LAPC party site no mention it isn't a brothel either that I could see.

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Right now I'm overseas and drooling at the lineups.

I want to put cock on Toni now that she has retuned!

TrevorN

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Right now I'm overseas and drooling at the lineups.

I want to put cock on Toni now that she has retuned!

More value seeing her at Hod then other sweaty bodies getting in the way and lineup changes and over the 2.1 ratio according to latest report .

markpartylover

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I attended a party at Phoenix today, as I said I was. Now before I go any further, I am aware that there are members who think I am a tout or an ex prostitute. So if that is your belief, don't bother reading any further.
The good - Emma is back in charge, physically and verbally. Completely changed the atmosphere of the party.
The girls were great too. I got to party with Bia, Asia and Cindy who were all new to me. I also got to party with Ivana who I have seen at parties for the past 5 years. Bia is full of energy, Asia has the most realistic enhanced tits I have ever touched/sucked and Cindy decided to lay on a bed on her own during a quiet period and masturbate. Ivana has mixed reviews in the past but I always find her warm and attentive. She has the fittest body at Phoenix in my opinion.
The new flat is bigger and has more rooms - which means you can sit and chat if you want away from the partying. It feels more like the old LMP. But not quite.

The meh -  the place is still being refurbished. So it lacks that lived in, comfort that Lancaster Gate used to offer. Still needs quite a bit of tlc and Emma is committed to make it the best environment.
Julia was on the rota but no sign of her. So there were 4 not 5 girls to play with.

Also, Barbara is no longer in charge. Emma said she had listened to feedback about her and recognised she has been distracted and is as a result putting lots more energy into the new venue.

So if you want my opinion, it feels like a step in the right direction. If you are concerned about vfm then there are still big issues when compared to the old LMP days. The ratio was 2:1 and people calling speculatively were being turned away as the party was full.
Watch this space is my opinion.
I hope you feel that is balanced and objective.