Sandys phones today

[Mcping]

I'd say it's unaminous, Sandys is one of the best parlours in the country and I've visited as often as possible when I'm in the area.

Having a sound understanding of the law, I'm hopeful Sandys will return even if under a new name / premises.

Of course the plod are aware of what's been happening there but all the girls are self employed offering a massage with whatever extras behind closed doors without the knowledge of the parlour - of course with the reviews so open on the website and on the coffee tables the parlour will struggle to convince anyone they didn't know what was happening.

I've heard they've even been raided in the past by environmental health, Cleary residents have been complaining.

[con-a-ser]

but all the girls are self employed offering a massage with whatever extras behind closed doors without the knowledge of the parlour

This would be a good argument if there wasn't a page on the web site showing which girls allegedly offered which services, been the victim of that won't fit up my arse old chest nut excuse

Cleary residents have been complaining.

If that was the case it would have been one of the establishments either north or south & probably would have occurred when the other bible bashing idiot was on the scene

[Bootleg]

FFS I lost my job last week and planning blowing some of my payoff at Sandy's 

What is the best parlour left in South Manachester? - I cannot be arsed to trek to Bury.

Maybe GFE should open a new branch in Didsbury 

[webpunter]

Apologies - i read "SS burds" & got the wrong end of the stick 

Youve just referred me back to other thread i already know about?

[HKS15]

Shocking news, although I've never fully bought the argument that SS is 'as legitimate as an illegitimate business can get'. The fact that they went in before opening sounds to me as though they were going in to arrest the owners alone on the basis of other things rather than going in during business hours in the hope of catching people with their pants down.

Does anyone actually know the reason? PM me if it can't go on a public board.

[iceCaptain]

I "reckon" some of the coppers in Whitefield have visited there! what a liberty!

Wonder if I could rent the place to live? I could wallow around all of the rooms, doing angels on each of the beds, bringing back memories!

[Blackpool Rock]

Wonder if I could rent the place to live? I could wallow around all of the rooms, doing angels on each of the beds, bringing back memories!

Just got me thinking I can remember my 1st punt at Sandys was about 7 years ago with a Yorkshire girl who worked as Lisa in room 6 but not sure I can remember the last girl I saw (wasn't contemplating needing to put it in the memory bank).
Would have been either Saskia again in room 6 dressed as a SG or Suzi in room 2 (must have seen Suzi about 40 - 50 times and always in room 2)

[cat1144]

Just got me thinking I can remember my 1st punt at Sandys was about 7 years ago with a Yorkshire girl who worked as Lisa in room 6 but not sure I can remember the last girl I saw (wasn't contemplating needing to put it in the memory bank).
Would have been either Saskia again in room 6 dressed as a SG or Suzi in room 2 (must have seen Suzi about 40 - 50 times and always in room 2)

you know you've podged Suzi more times than many blokes podge their wives over the course of a 30 yr marriage 

[webpunter]

Priceless ! 

you know you've podged Suzi more times than many blokes podge their wives over the course of a 30 yr marriage 

[Blackpool Rock]

you know you've podged Suzi more times than many blokes podge their wives over the course of a 30 yr marriage 

Quite possibly right and it cost me considerably less too plus I still have good memories 

[Mancpunt01]

Just joined up to find out what happened to Sandys

Wasn't there something in the paper about a one of the girls being seen on Brian's got talent :/ and a reporter or MEN went in to see her...

Wouldn't surprise me if it was something trivial that's rocked the boat :/

Oh well, add me to the list of feeling the pain

[Access]

It's was Brooke. She is the sister of George Sampson. She appeared as a backing dancer, but this story is probably 5 years old

[Mancpunt01]

It's was Brooke. She is the sister of George Sampson. She appeared as a backing dancer, but this story is probably 5 years old

It may have been, was one of the many I read while trying to find out what happened. I didn't click the date sadly.

[HKS15]

Someone posted on another forum that it might be related to a long serving Sandy's girl being caught using her home as a cannabis factory, which led the Police to question exactly how she had gained all of her money, which subsequently led the Police to SS and they found that Sandy wasn't declaring everything.

Of course the guy is being derided as a 'fantasist', but this incident certainly did happen, and was well publicised in the Manchester Evening News, along with a few major tabloids. I remember seeing it on my Facebook news feed a while ago and instantly recognising the girl.

Can PM the story to anyone who wants it, not sure if I should post it publicly as it contains the girl's real name.

[dubs]

I don't think there's any issues with posting links to convicted criminals.

[milo]

Yes, the incident you are referring to did happen, and as you say, it was quite a while ago.

So that begs the question, if it is relevant, why the long time gap between the two events?

Also, the police won't have needed leading to Sandy's. They will have known almost everything already.

So, the comments you are referring to, do, to me, sound like worthless speculation.

[rizzy00]

Google is now saying this establishment is now permanently closed. Sad Times

[HKS15]

Yes, the incident you are referring to did happen, and as you say, it was quite a while ago.

So that begs the question, if it is relevant, why the long time gap between the two events?

According to the MEN, the trial was only a few months ago. Even if there was a long gap, maybe the Police were building a strong enough case against the owners? Doesn't happen overnight.

Also, the police won't have needed leading to Sandy's. They will have known almost everything already.

In this case, if they were looking to investigate the origins of a drug producer's money, she directed them to Sandy's to account for the massive gap in her CV and maybe panicked to prove that not all of her money came from weed, then I don't see how the cops would have known everything already. The guy on the other site suggests that it might have also been another Police force investigating this girl's crimes.

Or maybe this caught GMP's attention, and they simply didn't like the fact that a girl working at SS for many years was linked to serious organised crime and this was a contributing factor to them taking enforcement action against the owners.

Yes, it is speculation, but I think a lot of it adds up.

[VOLPONE]

PJ888, That makes a lot of sense.

[con-a-ser]

Or maybe this caught GMP's attention, and they simply didn't like the fact that a girl working at SS for many years was linked to serious organised crime and this was a contributing factor to them taking enforcement action against the owners.

So you are saying one girl has fucked it for every one

50 girls unemployed through her greed

[VOLPONE]

So you are saying one girl has fucked it for every one

I think what he's saying is that one girls greed has set the authorities onto uncovering the full undeclared greed of the owners/pimps.

[James999]

50 girls unemployed

Surely they will get redundancy pay, assumng they were all legitimate on PAYE etc 

[miniintenso]

Thanks for the update PJ88

Missed the court room news concerning this particular scouse blonde

Maybe being optimistic but perhaps we can infer that so long as a massage parlour in Greater Manchester does not employ drug dealing wgs GMP are less likely to get involved

Left a big hole in South Manchester but some good wgs have made the journey to Bury at least

[smiths]

Someone posted on another forum that it might be related to a long serving Sandy's girl being caught using her home as a cannabis factory, which led the Police to question exactly how she had gained all of her money, which subsequently led the Police to SS and they found that Sandy wasn't declaring everything.

Of course the guy is being derided as a 'fantasist', but this incident certainly did happen, and was well publicised in the Manchester Evening News, along with a few major tabloids. I remember seeing it on my Facebook news feed a while ago and instantly recognising the girl.

Can PM the story to anyone who wants it, not sure if I should post it publicly as it contains the girl's real name.

The GMP force would of known everything about Sandys but for years allowed it to operate as happens all over the country with brothels. Something made the top cop/s in the area raid and close it, that could be for a number of reasons, MP complaints from local residents, feminists complaining, police and crime commissioner if there is one in the area sticking their beak in, allegations made by someone which sparked the police to investigate. Or POCA might of decided on a pay day hoping to seize the pimp who owns its assets which are presumably considerable. Or one of the top cops changed and the new one is an anti prostitution arsehole.

I very much doubt the pimp would of paid the correct amount of tax if any so HMRC could of been behind the raid as well, or now involved, an illegal business is always built on a foundation of straw that could come tumbling down at any time. All mere speculation of course, best people interested can do is keep an eye on the GMP website and local press for real facts, if the pimp is being done it might get reported though its amazing how rarely this happens in my area.

[Dickled]

I very much doubt the pimp would of paid the correct amount of tax if any so HMRC could of been behind the raid as well, or now involved, an illegal business is always built on a foundation of straw that could come tumbling down at any time. All mere speculation of course, best people interested can do is keep an eye on the GMP website and local press for real facts, if the pimp is being done it might get reported though its amazing how rarely this happens in my area.

Years ago I worked for the Inland Revenue, in a department that dealt with self employed people. It was not unknown for various tax inspectors to randomly peruse newspapers (the internet wasn't a feature then) to see if they could find evidence of illegal tax avoidance.
Like I say it was random, and perhaps Sandys was picked out for attention after some random media search by snooping tax people. Then again, perhaps not.
I suppose we'll never know, and possibly not knowing is the most frustrating thing of all.

[smiths]

Years ago I worked for the Inland Revenue, in a department that dealt with self employed people. It was not unknown for various tax inspectors to randomly peruse newspapers (the internet wasn't a feature then) to see if they could find evidence of illegal tax avoidance.
Like I say it was random, and perhaps Sandys was picked out for attention after some random media search by snooping tax people. Then again, perhaps not.
I suppose we'll never know, and possibly not knowing is the most frustrating thing of all.

Indeed, and I know a brothel in London that was raided by HMRC though I don't know what the outcome was except the pimp stopped advertising openly. I have no doubt the taxman and police use the net for free intelligence gathering, why wouldn't they in fact. I agree about the not knowing, maybe the local paper or GMP website might give some information at some stage.

[Matthewg]

I haven't been to sandys ever but reading this I'm glad I haven't ( none of the below is me ) I'd be extremely worried the police have all your information

https://[banned-site-auto-censor]/2016/11/23/sandys-superstars-in-shock-police-raid/

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[dubs]

That's all bullshit about personal info

[Odd Job]

Police aren't interested in punters in brothels, you haven't committed any crime. Unless the girl is trafficked then you might be on a sticky wicket. That isn't the case at Sandys.

[HKS15]

I haven't been to sandys ever but reading this I'm glad I haven't ( none of the below is me ) I'd be extremely worried the police have all your information

https://[banned-site-auto-censor]/2016/11/23/sandys-superstars-in-shock-police-raid/

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RC is a bible bashing nutcase who has crusaded against SS and other brothels in MCR for years. Don't buy into anything he says, he's trying to dramatise this as much as he can for personal gain.
 
Sandy's didn't keep pictures of punters unless they broke major rules such as taking pictures of the girls, and I'm sure the CCTV was wiped regularly.

The only possible concern would be credit/debit card details, but as others have said, you haven't broken any laws visiting and I don't see why the Police would come knocking on punter's doors for information.

[James999]

Sandy's didn't keep pictures of punters unless they broke major rules such as taking pictures of the girls, and I'm sure the CCTV was wiped regularly.

Possibly true, but how can you know this to be able to state it as fact?

And the fact you say they didn't keep pictures would imply they took them in the first place?

[smiths]

Police aren't interested in punters in brothels, you haven't committed any crime. Unless the girl is trafficked then you might be on a sticky wicket. That isn't the case at Sandys.

Indeed, or underage WGs which I assume they didn't offer either. That prick Carvath has been crowing on his poxy blog I see, and spouting real bollocks about the possible reasons for the raid, it was a threat to national security for example, what a prize cunt.

[VOLPONE]

And the fact you say they didn't keep pictures would imply they took them in the first place?

They obviously did. There were signs to that effect. And pictures on public display of individuals who were barred for trying to photograph the girls.

[HKS15]

Possibly true, but how can you know this to be able to state it as fact?

And the fact you say they didn't keep pictures would imply they took them in the first place?

They had cameras on the entrance doors as a security measure so that they could keep a mugshot gallery of punters who threatened the girls' safety/privacy. With regards to CCTV, on the other site when people used to complain about being short timed, Merv used to check the CCTV in the corridors to make sure but said he had to be informed early as the CCTV was wiped every few days. It would take up a lot of hard drive space to keep that amount of hours of footage archived anyway.

They had so many punters they'd have to keep a lot of photos. I remember when I got my membership, and they just took my name and a password and entered it into the database, I didn't see any photos being added, plus I was never recognised when I walked in, which would have been the case if they kept photos of every punter attached to their membership number and booking.

I'm sure managing two parlours and 14 girls a day would take up enough work, without maintaining a massive archive of pictures and videos of punters.

[Spannerman]

I see Carvaths had his say:

External Link/Members Only

A SS WG I knew once told me he used to be a customer of Sandy herself before he was 'born again.' 

[HKS15]

I see Carvaths had his say:

https://[banned-site-auto-censor]/2016/11/23/sandys-superstars-in-shock-police-raid/

A SS WG I knew once told me he used to be a customer of Sandy herself before he was 'born again.' 

The guy is an embodiment of projections and irony, he also used to clean toilets in a gay club on Canal Street for a living yet he's a massive homophobe

[Blackpool Rock]

The guy is an embodiment of projections and irony, he also used to clean toilets in a gay club on Canal Street for a living yet he's a massive homophobe

Yeah "Born agains" are the worst of the worst

[webpunter]

The street name was spelt incorrectly - miss of the C 

[cerealpunter]

I see Carvaths had his say:

https://[banned-site-auto-censor]/2016/11/23/sandys-superstars-in-shock-police-raid/

A SS WG I knew once told me he used to be a customer of Sandy herself before he was 'born again.' 

I know it was a good thing he disappeared from the area, but I wonder why, had he been warned off or something

[Robert44]

I regularly used to look for recording devices in the rooms at first, then thought why bother? Never noticed anything untoward, yet always felt that there must have been some monitoring going on for the girls own protection. What about if a punter went beserk or something?

[con-a-ser]

I know it was a good thing he disappeared from the area, but I wonder why, had he been warned off or something

 

[con-a-ser]

Indeed, or underage WGs which I assume they didn't offer either. That prick Carvath has been crowing on his poxy blog I see, and spouting real bollocks about the possible reasons for the raid, it was a threat to national security for example, what a prize cunt.

So he is trying to take credit for it
He tried to take credit for WFB the prick, He was told to fuck off by the police he basically said, They didn't want to know so 3yr later he is trying to make out it was his doing

[webpunter]

Someone will take it upon themselves to give him a good pasting.  If he's lucky he'll wake up in A&E a few days later
A threat to national security.  Makes him look the prize cunt [perfect phraseology as above] which he is
The only dangerous weapons @ SS were some rock hard cocks about to fire.  Incoming ..

[Blackpool Rock]

I regularly used to look for recording devices in the rooms at first, then thought why bother? Never noticed anything untoward, yet always felt that there must have been some monitoring going on for the girls own protection. What about if a punter went beserk or something?

The rooms did have panic buttons for the girls to ask for help

[smiths]

So he is trying to take credit for it
He tried to take credit for WFB the prick, He was told to fuck off by the police he basically said, They didn't want to know so 3yr later he is trying to make out it was his doing

No not when I checked, he said he doesn't know the reason but he knows the pimps were involved in organised crime and a threat to national security.

[OldAdmin]

Some ex-Sandys girls have gone to other parlours, but I'm sure they will have no problem going 'independent' if they wanted, there'll be a nice caring selfless agency pimp to take advantage making money offering them his incall place to work from or even work for his agency! So nice to have someone like that who only "cares about the welfare of WGs and punters". MBE on the offing? "Services to prostitution"? Well possibly if he stopped being so shy of his 'charitable' side...

[Jay-Jay]

Some ex-Sandys girls have gone to other parlours, but I'm sure they will have no problem going 'independent' if they wanted, there'll be a nice caring selfless agency pimp to take advantage making money offering them his incall place to work from or even work for his agency! So nice to have someone like that who only "cares about the welfare of WGs and punters". MBE on the offing? "Services to prostitution"? Well possibly if he stopped being so shy of his 'charitable' side...

Absolutely spot on !,

Jay

[ellis_dee]

still struggling with the closer of Sandys. I keep finding myself thinking about a visit when I have some spare time on my hands, only to immediately remind myself that it's gone forever.

[Access]

I had heard off an ex Sandys girl that taking coke was rife in that place. I know they "publicly" had a strict no drugs policy, but I do recall seeing a few girls with the runny nose in the room. Not sure if it was sour grapes or whatever but I had no reason to disbelieve this particular girl.

[con-a-ser]

I had heard off an ex Sandys girl that taking coke was rife in that place. I know they "publicly" had a strict no drugs policy, but I do recall seeing a few girls with the runny nose in the room. Not sure if it was sour grapes or whatever but I had no reason to disbelieve this particular girl.

Is that why she is an ex Sandy's girl

Assume ex as in sacked rather than redundant