Platinum Cindy - Chelsea Bridge

[Nagilum]

cool thanks for the advice ipad. As i said I was new to the game of which I had told her and so was naive in thinking she would take control

Being new to the game, sometimes allows WG's to take advantage, its not unheard of, and if she chatted to you for an hour of the punt when you paid for two then you have to decide how you feel about it.  That to me is deliberate time wasting.  Of course iPad3 is right, you should dictate the punt, but being inexperienced as it has now come to light paints a very different picture of how your punt went.

Decide how you feel and review it.  You are not jumping on a bandwagon, you are helping to complete a picture that is starting to become clear.

[Nagilum]

There have been hints on this forum that she has recently been dissing other wgs in meetings with punters as well.

I can confirm that - She tried this and I told her I would not entertain the idea or partaking in a slagging of match of others girls. Both during the punt and across text where she carried it on.

[bristolqwerty]

Decide how you feel and review it.  You are not jumping on a bandwagon, you are helping to complete a picture that is starting to become clear.

...a very piss poor picture too..... it gets worse 

[ClarkeOfTheCourse]

I have to agree with the OP. I had a 2 hour meeting with Cindy towards the end of last year. As others have stated I booked the meet for months in advance so was looking forward to it. In total of the 2 hours I think there was only about an hour of action and only 2 pops which left me frustrated, the rest of the time was her chatting away. Now Im probably partially to blame for this as I should have been more forward, however at the time I was new to the game, of which I told her, and I guess in my head I thought she would be more forward with starting the action With hindsight I wish I had let her know I was unhappy like the OP did, readng the review makes me want to leave my own for my own experince but dont want to seem to be jumping on any bandwagons

Unfortunately most WGs are sly and will take advantage and do as little work as they can get away with if you tell them you are new to this. I had this for the first couple of meetings with agency girls when I started out. Lesson learnt.

[Nagilum]

...a very piss poor picture too..... it gets worse 

It's gone from a Picasso to a 3 years old scribbling with crayon!

[The_Don]

Perhaps she should borrow Michelle Independants egg timer 

External Link/Members Only 

She was dressed in a towel and wound up a pig timer (like an egg timer but a pig)

[laidbackasiandude]

I can confirm that - She tried this and I told her I would not entertain the idea or partaking in a slagging of match of others girls. Both during the punt and across text where she carried it on.

Which suggests she has a deep seated insecurity personality trait. I met PC way back in July 2013 (year before joining UKP),
which was the only time I've met her. What struck me about that time was during the post-coital phase, she was pressing
me to write up a positive Field Report on AW (my session was decent BTW, sorry to hear you got messed around as per review).

I felt somewhat perplexed that she needed any further reviews on AW as even back in 2013, she was well established and
well reviewed both on AW and also here on UKP. Suffice to say I didn't write up any review just the normal AW feedback and
left it at that, based upon how the session went for me.

[Nagilum]

Which suggests she has a deep seated insecurity personality trait. I met PC way back in July 2013 (year before joining UKP),
which was the only time I've met her. What struck me about that time was during the post-coital phase, she was pressing
me to write up a positive Field Report on AW (my session was decent BTW, sorry to hear you got messed around as per review).

I felt somewhat perplexed that she needed any further reviews on AW as even back in 2013, she was well established and
well reviewed both on AW and also here on UKP. Suffice to say I didn't write up any review just the normal AW feedback and
left it at that, based upon how the session went for me.

Thank you

Fair enough, that is a useful thing to add. Even if you have not reviewed at this point, its confirming what is coming out the woodwork about her.

[Persie]

Brilliantly put!

I simply cannot understand why someone would book her in advance? A day or two, the following weekend - yes, perhaps, at a push - but Months?
Fuck me, it's not as if we're talking world famous Porn Star here is it? I mean if Sunny Leone or Mia Khalifa were avilable and guys booked 4 months in advance - I may at a push understand it, but who the fuck is Platinum Cindy except a fucking prossie?

it works both ways - I have booked months in advance and cancelled on the day when i am not up for it

[Nagilum]

it works both ways - I have booked months in advance and cancelled on the day when i am not up for it

Fair enough, you are the paying customer. It's not a major issue for WG's as they have others ready to slot into cancelled spots. Especially the more popular girls. Cancelling literally an hour before wouldn't be on.

[webpunter]

Fair enough, you are the paying customer. It's not a major issue for WG's as they have others ready to slot into cancelled spots. Especially the more popular girls. Cancelling literally an hour before wouldn't be on.

IMO this rubs both ways.  So the longer in advance the booking the same for cancellation.  Cancellations are one of the pitfalls with booking ahead so far.  Which is why i avoid it.  In addition to not knowing when exactly littleWP will be up for it 'x' weeks in advance, then more likely that other things will crop up & cause problems.  I figure that in dealing with WGs then no different from business stuff.  So if a 'customer' has a meeting booked with me in well advance then i appreciate more notice of cancellation.  I try & apply the same sort of principle in sorting out bookings with WGs.  Apart from the fact that things are more 'fluid' and likely to change.  This approach yields better results most times - but there are exceptions.  When its one way traffic then i think WTF.  Plenty more fish etc

[Nagilum]

IMO this rubs both ways.  So the longer in advance the booking the same for cancellation.  Cancellations are one of the pitfalls with booking ahead so far.  Which is why i avoid it.  In addition to not knowing when exactly littleWP will be up for it 'x' weeks in advance, then more likely that other things will crop up & cause problems.  I figure that in dealing with WGs then no different from business stuff.  So if a 'customer' has a meeting booked with me in well advance then i appreciate more notice of cancellation.  I try & apply the same sort of principle in sorting out bookings with WGs.  Apart from the fact that things are more 'fluid' and likely to change.  This approach yields better results most times - but there are exceptions.  When its one way traffic then i think WTF.  Plenty more fish etc

I agree with that and its only courteous to give notice, both ways.  Generally if I try to book and they are busy or do not pick up the phone I treat it like a Business and I go to the next provider. Normally I think, clearly you are making too much money and don't need my business, moving on.

[ramrodronnie]

Being new to the game, sometimes allows WG's to take advantage, its not unheard of, and if she chatted to you for an hour of the punt when you paid for two then you have to decide how you feel about it.  That to me is deliberate time wasting.  Of course iPad3 is right, you should dictate the punt, but being inexperienced as it has now come to light paints a very different picture of how your punt went.

Decide how you feel and review it.  You are not jumping on a bandwagon, you are helping to complete a picture that is starting to become clear.

Absolutely Nagilum. It's vital, especially for newcomer to learn the ropes asap, for the rightful reasons that you point out.

[ramrodronnie]

Unfortunately most WGs are sly and will take advantage and do as little work as they can get away with if you tell them you are new to this. I had this for the first couple of meetings with agency girls when I started out. Lesson learnt.

I fully agree ClarkeOfTheCourse. While we have this very useful forum, it does reduce the pain of going through trial and error. We as punters are able to give out important information on WGs, whereby we can then make an informed choice on the better WGs who will more often than not deliver on the services that she is promising, without time wasting etc etc. and to Review.
Which makes it so important to inform other punters with honesty to Review after they've punted.

[webpunter]

Unfortunately most WGs are sly and will take advantage and do as little work as they can get away with if you tell them you are new to this. I had this for the first couple of meetings with agency girls when I started out. Lesson learnt.

Me too.  But that's the way with most things in life.  Like taking your car to the garage to get it fixed - if they think they can leg you over a bit they will.  Sometimes.  And if they don't then an ulterior motive - getting you back.  No different to WGs IMO.  I look back & think how naive was i ?  All part of the journey.  In some ways UKP could be considered like driving lessons - hopefully helping you to avoid a major smash.  Even older drivers can benefit with ongoing training.  The Institute of Advanced Motorists - what a bunch of boring fuckers they are !  The UKP club is far more interesting. And string-back driving gloves are banned 

[Cunning Punt]

She did try - she tried to offer me a part refund, to which I told her I didn't want it. Imagine I took it, stayed silent and one of you walked into this service. That would make me the biggest tosser.

Hats off to you for not letting yourself be blackmailed and being honest to yourself and this forum. Not all guys would do that  

[Nagilum]

Hats off to you for not letting yourself be blackmailed and being honest to yourself and this forum. Not all guys would do that  

  CP, just doing my bit.

[Massiveerection]

3.   Did not even go all the way through to the allotted hour, because I don’t count washing my hands, discussing service and having a glass of water before starting as actually starting

I am sure i'll be hung out to dry for this but regardless of WG for me the punt starts when I walk through the door and ends when I walk out. Other than that the reviewer didn't enjoy himself so negative deserved.

[webpunter]

I am sure i'll be hung out to dry for this but regardless of WG for me the punt starts when I walk through the door and ends when I walk out

I try & get to bookings min 10mins before / confirm ready to arrive when they are.  So hopefully getting a few mins [say 5] head start - to have the world's quickest shower for example.  And to avoid delays by not being sure where exactly to go on the 1st meet.  Especially important on the odd occasion i go for 30 mins - coz 5 mins fucking around at each end eat into the fun times.  Or not as is the case with the OP !

[Nagilum]

I am sure i'll be hung out to dry for this but regardless of WG for me the punt starts when I walk through the door and ends when I walk out. Other than that the reviewer didn't enjoy himself so negative deserved.

You won't be for an opinion.

The punt starts when service begins or in this instance where she signalled the start and then proceeded to cut 10 minutes out.  By allowing this behaviour it encourages it. You are supposed to go in and confirm services, do you also count this as time?

[Massiveerection]

The punt starts when service begins or in this instance where she signalled the start and then proceeded to cut 10 minutes out.  By allowing this behaviour it encourages it. You are supposed to go in and confirm services, do you also count this as time?

I use the hour I paid for. If I have booked an hour I use the hour. Obviously a bit of wiggle room either end.

[Si198]

Sorry to hear OP defo a negative hopefully she will learn from it and get back to great service which many of us know she can deliver.

On a side note I'm sure it's just a troll but someone posted on her feedback on AW about cream pie her!!!! (Made me chuckle)  

[claretandblue]

You won't be for an opinion.

The punt starts when service begins or in this instance where she signalled the start and then proceeded to cut 10 minutes out.  By allowing this behaviour it encourages it. You are supposed to go in and confirm services, do you also count this as time?

I think it's a tricky one, on most of my punts 1hour has normally meant 1hour 15 in the room from entering the room to leaving.

I don't enter and confirm services to he honest,if there is something I am unclear on I will ask prior by text or email so upon arrival it's a quick hello and freshen up and then down to business.

If you are having showers at each end plus discussing what you are going to do you could be looking at 90 minutes in the room!

[nigel4498]

You are supposed to go in and confirm services,

I always confirm services prior to the punt.
You live in learn in this game, leading the session from the off is something that you acquire with more experience and it helps eliminate any time wasting .
Having a chat and a drink is something I reserve for my recovering period.

[Nagilum]

I think it's a tricky one, on most of my punts 1hour has normally meant 1hour 15 in the room from entering the room to leaving.

I don't enter and confirm services to he honest,if there is something I am unclear on I will ask prior by text or email so upon arrival it's a quick hello and freshen up and then down to business.

If you are having showers at each end plus discussing what you are going to do you could be looking at 90 minutes in the room!

Preceisly. Not to be clocked at an hour dead. In that 90 odd minutes you expect a full service for 1 hour , not 50 minutes like I had. I would say 75 - 90 is reasonable from entrance to exit.

Anything beyond is up to the girl and I wouldn't expect it.

[Nagilum]

I always confirm services prior to the punt.
You live in learn in this game, leading the session from the off is something that you acquire with more experience and it helps eliminate any time wasting .
Having a chat and a drink is something I reserve for my recovering period.

Very true. I just didn't expect a girl this highly rated to time waste intentionally. If a drink is offered, you are asked to wash your hands. Then after 10 minutes told let's start. You would take it that the hour begins then. However that was not the case.

[Persie]

Very true. I just didn't expect a girl this highly rated to time waste intentionally. If a drink is offered, you are asked to wash your hands. Then after 10 minutes told let's start. You would take it that the hour begins then. However that was not the case.

+ 1

They not doing us a favour - they are being paid to be pummelled.

Anyway, I am sure Cindy's mother wil be proud of her pink Mercedes and laboutins 

[Nagilum]

+ 1

They not doing us a favour - they are being paid to be pummelled.

Anyway, I am sure Cindy's mother wil be proud of her pink Mercedes and laboutins 

 

[The_Don]

her pink Mercedes 

Is it External Link/Members Only 

[nervyfooker]

I would say 75 - 90 is reasonable from entrance to exit...

In most cases expecting to be inside a prossie's flat for 75-90mins is not reasonable
for a 1hour booking.in Cindy's case here, she should have given you extra time
because of her timewasting but generally if a girl gets straight down to business
you shouldn't expect extra time, though its nice when it happens.

[ramrodronnie]

In most cases expecting to be inside a prossie's flat for 75-90mins is not reasonable
for a 1hour booking.in Cindy's case here, she should have given you extra time
because of her timewasting but generally if a girl gets straight down to business
you shouldn't expect extra time, though its nice when it happens.

Agreed nervyfooker. And yes it is nice when it happens, as it has happened with me on more than one occasion.
But generally speaking, as we all know, we are almost always timed, and out within our allotted time. And in far too many cases we are done out of time as what happened to Nagilum.

[collector]

Based on my experience I usually understood by the prossie logic and also reading few topics in UKP/UKE/puntwiki that time starts when I enter the room. First shower and first chat are being paid and shower before leaving is out of the time if the prossie is not a clockwatcher and doesn't rush you to get out. This is what I expect in a punt by default. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't consider myself an expert punter yet, I still have to learn.

However from a WG like Cindy I expect 60 minutes of action like Nagilum expected from her. But IMO this is not how an avarage prossie think about an hour punt should run. They see one hour booking as 60 minutes or a little more from entering to leaving. Because of this review, now I see Cindy as a normal WG who could sometimes use time wasting tactics and seeing one hour bookings as 60 minutes in the flat, not all action.

Anyway expecting 90 minutes in the flat is too much, it means the punter is overstaying quite a lot, it's not the standard rule.
I think generally 70-75 mins is fine.

[Nagilum]

I agree 90 mins is a stretch and on no way do I expect it by default. 75 mins for showers either side is reasonable. I tend to shower prior.

I have visited many girls and never been clipped, this was the first time from an unlikely source. But it shows how service has diminish over time. Other punters had reported a far fairer service previously, sadly I was not afforded the same this time. Instead I was told "I do not watch the clock". All I asked for a full hour, nothing more.

No punter should accept shower time as part of time. If you do then you potentially reduce your punt time to 45 mins of action. This is the very definition of clock watching on their part. Get you in, out, next client. With having not offered the services listed for the full hour.

[collector]

I agree 90 mins is a stretch and on no way do I expect it by default. 75 mins for showers either side is reasonable. I tend to shower prior.

I have visited many girls and never been clipped, this was the first time from an unlikely source. But it shows how service has diminish over time. Other punters had reported a far fairer service previously, sadly I was not afforded the same this time. Instead I was told "I do not watch the clock". All I asked for a full hour, nothing more.

No punter should accept shower time as part of time. If you do then you potentially reduce your punt time to 45 mins of action. This is the very definition of clock watching on their part. Get you in, out, next client. With having not offered the services listed for the full hour.

Is this really the first time you received less than 60 minutes of service? You've been very lucky with your previous punts

However your point of view has a logic and I totally agree. All of us should ask first if the shower is included or excluded. I never asked before, maybe I should start doing that.
Sometimes demand something can change the punt in a better way instead of keep the mouth shut and leave unsatisfied (I don't refer to your punt with Cindy, i'm talking in general).
For example in a couple of occasions in 1/2 punts, I've been told it was a cum once policy. After my complain saying it was not written in the profile, both of the prossies started round 2  In other occasions, I should have said something and I didn't, regretting that later.

[claretandblue]

Preceisly. Not to be clocked at an hour dead. In that 90 odd minutes you expect a full service for 1 hour , not 50 minutes like I had. I would say 75 - 90 is reasonable from entrance to exit.

Anything beyond is up to the girl and I wouldn't expect it.

I think 70 is reasonable  (a quick wash at either end should only take 5 minutes) , I don't think expecting to be in there for 90 minutes is reasonable if you have only paid for an hour

[Mr Farkyhars]

I think 70 is reasonable  (a quick wash at either end should only take 5 minutes) , I don't think expecting to be in there for 90 minutes is reasonable if you have only paid for an hour

+1 - and as was said above I try to arrive very recently showered, so that I can reasonably have a post-punt shower that covers all bases and then some

[Nagilum]

I think 70 is reasonable  (a quick wash at either end should only take 5 minutes) , I don't think expecting to be in there for 90 minutes is reasonable if you have only paid for an hour

Sure, and you are right 90 minutes to shower up and have the service probably a little much. 75 minutes with a full 60 minutes of service is about right and that is what I normally stick to (with a new girl especially).  There have been occasions when service is over and the girl carries on talking and tells the punter its ok to stay if she has no more clients. The important thing is the service was provided for the duration paid and what happens now is down to the girl.  Trying to take advantage any other way would be wrong, as in expecting further service beyond the paid time.

[Nagilum]

+1 - and as was said above I try to arrive very recently showered so that the post-punt shower can cover all bases and then some

same +1