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Ok I'm 57 I use for punts and OH am able to rush the OH without but it's crap even OH ask for me to take a "Bluey" have used Jellys and both the Lloyds and Asda stuff I'm thinking of try the Cialis anyone out there similar age situation tried is it better result and side effect wise?
I'm a similar age & I find that Cialis/Tadalafil works better for me that Sildenafil/Viagra as I don't get the side effects of headaches etc. I take 10mg & find it works fine for me but you may need to experiment - start low & work your way up. I find it better because you don't need to be so accurate with your timing as the effects last much longer - it's called the weekender tablet for good reason. You could take it in the morning & it will still be working when you go to bed at night & in fact there is a low dose version you take every day so you're permanently good to go. The one difference might be that I don't get the mega firm wood of a 50mg Viagra shot but the other advantages outweigh this for me.

Everyone is different & you might not get on with Tadalafil but it's easy to obtain & have an experiment with.

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 :hi: thanks for those replies chaps  :drinks: :drinks:

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Strangely enough, I was perusing this thread a while ago during my punting drought and was interested, but didn't think I would need to return to study the thoughts in more detail. However, last punt was with a gorgeous lady (yes, yes, review to follow) I found myself unable to sustain an erection at the crucial point. Thinking back over the (few) punts I have had and in fact back many moons ago when the OH was able to engage in sex I now realise that according to the Pfizer erection hardness scale, I have a peeled banana - not really hard enough for sustained intercourse.

From some non-scientific research, I believe this is due to many years of jacking off to porn to a point where real life sex is less stimulating, I've already cut down on porn to a great degree but apparently it can take a long time to reboot the brain to fully engage again.

So, long story short, thanks for the pointers and I have now ordered myself some Sildenafil 100mg which I will break up into smaller doses (more good advice here about this costing less per dose) and give it a go, as I have a punt booked for next week and really, really, want to get some wood up that stays up. I have found that certain things during the session will sustain a pretty good erection, but particular when the condom goes on, it deflates...  I'll experiment with the dosage prior to the punt, take plenty of water and see what side effects it has on me.

Report back in a few weeks - I know everyone is different and age is an important factor but I think this forum is a useful pooling of experience, so happy to share mine.

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New to the blue pill I started out at 25mg as I was using only for recreational purposes rather than mechanical ones, I thought I got better wood, but then I'm not sure that was because of the eager anticipation to get it tried. Last week I went up to 50mg and again I find myself asking if it really is making a difference, I'd taken the pill about an hour before as instructed but after 90 minutes I was getting a headache and a stuffy nose. For those that haven't experienced these side effects, for me at least, it's not like a runny or blocked nose, my nasal passages remained unblocked it was just like fleshy part of the internals of my nose had expanded, like my nose also had a hard on, similarly the headache wasn't like a normal or a bad headache, it was just a feeling like my skull wasn't quite big enough for my brain, again like my brain had a hard on, so neither symptom was bad or painful, in fact if I hadn't read about them before trying the pillI may not have even noticed, not particularly unpleasant but a mild irritant.

I punted yesterday and thought I'd go back to the 25, I've used it twice now so I'm not going to be over excited just at the prospect of using it, and this time I really thought I felt the benefit, a good solid, sustained hard on over an hour punt, a slightly stuffy nose but maybe because I was looking for symptoms but the other concerns people have about difficulty in cumming has never been an issue for me, 25 or 50mg.

I think I'll continue using it but not every punt, I don't want to become psychologically dependant, although with me and the OH both having two weeks off together over Christmas and her usually being very demanding during this work stress free period, I might actually need them.

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hi, I'm also in my late fifties, and have had a few ED problems over the past 10 years or so ... as in most things it's not that much fun getting older, except that it's better then the other option !

For what it's worth, I have been taking Sildenafil (Viagra) for the past 10+ years, starting with 25mg, then up to 50mg and over the past 4 to 5 years the full 100mg in order to be able to enjoy myself and whom ever I happen to be with ! It used to be that I'd be okay with a lower dose at home, but would take a higher dose when out with a SP ... just to make sure !

Where I'm at now though is that to be sure of having a good time I take the 5mg daily tadalafil (Cialis) every day, and then I pop a 100mg Sildenafil an hour or so before performing, and this works fine. I know it's not recommended (I have asked my GP) but reading a lot of online research I don't think it's much of a risk unless you suffer from high blood pressure or are on medications... now that both are available without the patent, it's not that expensive through established on line pharmacists, I use Dr Fox for the Taladafil and get the Sildenafil through my GP.

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 :hi: Thanks Roger, that is very helpful info :drinks: I am maybe going down the same road as you ;)

The thing is;  I am sure there are loads of chaps 60,70 plus who have no problems and tell us about their adventures maybe on their once a month day , however age creeps up on us as does health issues :(  I have been used to shagging OH 3-4times a week and WG`s once or several in day weekly for past few years this is slowing down :( :( I a using same amounts at the moment as you the 100mg s I last did over a day in the summer in Soho I managed to be up so to speak 20 mins after first shag but after 3 more WG`s and £66. quid and the maid banging on door with "times up luv" :D I only popped the second shot out 5hrs later  :( sweating like a pig after the effort the 30ish WG said you should try Viagra it might help :D :D little did she know she was 5th girl I had porked but second cum ...When I use with OH it is still working in middle of night which 1st few times she thought was great but now she realizes that I aint gonna cum she either goes all out to bring herself off on the bar :yahoo: or just gets bored and leaves it :( The extra juice pill is what I am now looking for :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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I use Sildenafil........ 25mg tablets. Got  a headache the first few times but found if I drank a couple of pints of water 30 minutes beforetaking  the tablet, the headache is minimal if not un-noticeable.

For me, it takes around 30-40 minutes to kick in but works for a good 4 hours or so. Somehow it seems to give me control so I don't 'pop' too soon.... maybe that's just psychological?

All I know is I was with a wg last night and she seemed suitably impressed that a bloke approaching his late 60's kept it bang hard for a full hour. ( So was I to be honest  LOL.... :wackogirl:

Anyone else notices the shaft looks red though?     ?? must be the blood staying there?  :unknown:)

I've tried a couple of times without taking a tablet.... I'm okay until the fucking durex appears then I invariably get ' Durex Droop '   :thumbsdown:  so it's tablets every time for me.

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Thanks Roger, that is very helpful info  I am maybe going down the same road as you ;)

The thing is;  I am sure there are loads of chaps 60,70 plus who have no problems and tell us about their adventures maybe on their once a month day , however age creeps up on us as does health issues  I have been used to shagging OH 3-4times a week and WG`s once or several in day weekly for past few years this is slowing down  I a using same amounts at the moment as you the 100mg s I last did over a day in the summer in Soho I managed to be up so to speak 20 mins after first shag but after 3 more WG`s and £66. quid and the maid banging on door with "times up luv" I only popped the second shot out 5hrs later  sweating like a pig after the effort the 30ish WG said you should try Viagra it might help little did she know she was 5th girl I had porked but second cum ...When I use with OH it is still working in middle of night which 1st few times she thought was great but now she realizes that I aint gonna cum she either goes all out to bring herself off on the bar or just gets bored and leaves it :( The extra juice pill is what I am now looking for

I’ve maybe answered this before but it’s common to have less juice with age. It’s caused by lower testosterone. Viagra and Cialis etc don’t affect testosterone — although frequent sex helps — they only affect the circulation that produces an erection. Apart from various folk remedies that have only nominal effect if that, the two main non-injectables to increase testosterone are testosterone gel (which you can buy legally while abroad in two different forms and bring home with you but not legally import it mail order) and cabergoline (which you can buy legally from abroad by mail order). A course of either improves testosterone.

(You can easily find confirmation of this from the medical literature online and from user reports. p.s. I’ve deleted some of your emoticons in your post to make it easier to read). Best of luck.

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Thanks for that :drinks: :drinks:  Marmalade...

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hi, I'm also in my late fifties, and have had a few ED problems over the past 10 years or so ... as in most things it's not that much fun getting older, except that it's better then the other option !

For what it's worth, I have been taking Sildenafil (Viagra) for the past 10+ years, starting with 25mg, then up to 50mg and over the past 4 to 5 years the full 100mg in order to be able to enjoy myself and whom ever I happen to be with ! It used to be that I'd be okay with a lower dose at home, but would take a higher dose when out with a SP ... just to make sure !

Where I'm at now though is that to be sure of having a good time I take the 5mg daily tadalafil (Cialis) every day, and then I pop a 100mg Sildenafil an hour or so before performing, and this works fine. I know it's not recommended (I have asked my GP) but reading a lot of online research I don't think it's much of a risk unless you suffer from high blood pressure or are on medications... now that both are available without the patent, it's not that expensive through established on line pharmacists, I use Dr Fox for the Taladafil and get the Sildenafil through my GP.

Tried your method but with a 20mg Tad pill in evening with OH not as hard as Asda stuff was her comments  :sarcastic: so next morning after a small shag with her no cum  :( made tube ride to Soho walk up 11 start for a 25ish stocky Romanian girl I`d taken 25mg of Sildenafil and the result shocked her and me :D :lol: :D It was just the hardest I have ever been  :dance: I banged her like a jack hammer for 10min and came shuddering she thought I was gonna have a heart attack :D  After coffee and walking around shops for an hour or so .Found a blonde on Berwick St 30 quid a stunner for the 2nd experiment of day perfect I was hard quick and in a tight 28 year old banging in mish till the maid knocked called are you ok? I enjoyed it but I knew there was no way of cumming so quickly after 1st ....returned home after working in office banged the OH with same power full hard on as early one around 12.00 but still did not cum I was however completely and utterly :crazy: :wacko: I am still think of dosing off now the mix was great but my lord it drains every thing out of you...
I will plan things a bit better for my next trip up in the new-year and mix it up like Roger recommended again ;)

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If you want testosterone gel it’s fairly easy to buy over the counter in Greece.

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If you want testosterone gel it’s fairly easy to buy over the counter in Greece.

Hopefully off there at Easter so will look in to it and have a try thanks M

I only usually do walkup days when OH is not on horizon yesterday was a perfect chance to try Roger9`s mix I reckon I need to fine tune the times and amounts for the sessions but I have to say the result of combining the two was a slow start I took half to start which didn't really feel like it was going to work for me then the other 10mg of the tadenfill pill but 3hrs later it started its job ending in a very impressive day out for me  :D
I don't think it would do me any good at a party or rather I should say I would not be any good at a party as I'm still a one shot then hour rego but 5-7 for a second shot :dash:

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I'd just like to say a massive thanks to the OP for creating what, I hope, will be a constant thread on this topic.

I ordered Sildenafil 100mg after the last punt proved disappointing and echoed some elements of previous punts. Tried 25mg to see what side effects there were, but on my own - just using some simple visual stimulation to see if there was an effect and yes, there was. No noticeable side effects, so I upped to 50mg for my next punt and wow, it made a whole load of difference. A solid boner right from the start to the end - moved easily from OWO to slipping on the condom and then into CG which is not normally my favourite so the combination should have led to a wilting feeling.... but no, just grabbed her and pounded away!

I did sense some swelling in the nose, but not sure if that is because I was expecting it, or could even be because I still have the remnants of a cold!  Face felt flushed after, but that was probably from all the sweaty antics   :D

I know it won't be the same for everyone, but thanks again for the advice which led me to trying Sildenafil.

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I'd just like to say a massive thanks to the OP for creating what, I hope, will be a constant thread on this topic.

I ordered Sildenafil 100mg after the last punt proved disappointing and echoed some elements of previous punts. Tried 25mg to see what side effects there were, but on my own - just using some simple visual stimulation to see if there was an effect and yes, there was. No noticeable side effects, so I upped to 50mg for my next punt and wow, it made a whole load of difference. A solid boner right from the start to the end - moved easily from OWO to slipping on the condom and then into CG which is not normally my favourite so the combination should have led to a wilting feeling.... but no, just grabbed her and pounded away!

I did sense some swelling in the nose, but not sure if that is because I was expecting it, or could even be because I still have the remnants of a cold!  Face felt flushed after, but that was probably from all the sweaty antics   :D

I know it won't be the same for everyone, but thanks again for the advice which led me to trying Sildenafil.


hi mate try a pint of water when you take the tablet if you can ? it reduces the facial flushing to almost nothing I find  :thumbsup:

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I use the 100mg Viagra version - and take the whole tablet an hour before I expect to start to have sex - and above all , no food whatsoever -
I tried the 50mg dose , but it tends to make you less hard half-way through the appointment of an hour , so its 100mg all the way for me
and I also drink a bit of water after taking it
to stop the ' red and hot feeling ' I once had on my cheeks - before a punt in Wishaw - and that's worked a treat ...
The Viagra really helps me keep an erection for the whole hour of the appointment - and allows me to concentrate on my lovemaking ... its really made a difference

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I don't know if it's my mind playing tricks on me, but for some reason my performance and erections are much better when I use branded Tadalafil (Cialis) purchased from Lloyds Pharmacy, compared to the generic version (purchased from Dr Fox).

I assume the contents / active ingredients are near on identical, but I have just had better experience with Cialis for some reason.

Anyone else experienced something similar?

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Anyone else experienced something similar?

No, but there is plenty of research showing that 'branded' drugs work better than generic ones, and coloured pills work better than plain ones, even when the ingredients are identical.  It really is all in the mind.

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No, but there is plenty of research showing that 'branded' drugs work better than generic ones, and coloured pills work better than plain ones, even when the ingredients are identical.  It really is all in the mind.

Is that tongue in cheek? If not I’d genuinely like to see some links to such research.

There have been occasional fake or substandard generics but that becomes less common when the price goes down as the patent expires.

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Ive only started using tadalafil/cialis in the last 6 months , im 51 y/o btw , blister packs made in india 10 x 40mg for £25 , i cut them into 5 bits each so take about 8mg half hour before a punt , i feel like i just effortlessly maintain a hard-on better although some of it could be psycological , but obviously the science dosnt lie and there is a real physiological benefit. Also i notice after the punt when i go home to bed i wake up later nursing a hard-on as well which is a good sign.

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Ive only started using tadalafil/cialis in the last 6 months , im 51 y/o btw , blister packs made in india 10 x 40mg for £25 , i cut them into 5 bits each so take about 8mg half hour before a punt , i feel like i just effortlessly maintain a hard-on better although some of it could be psycological , but obviously the science dosnt lie and there is a real physiological benefit. Also i notice after the punt when i go home to bed i wake up later nursing a hard-on as well which is a good sign.

Where did you get them from? I have only seen 20mg

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Is that tongue in cheek? If not I’d genuinely like to see some links to such research.

External Link/Members Only  has an easily readable summary. Interesting stuff. Plenty more around if you want to do some googling   :thumbsup:

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Where did you get them from? I have only seen 20mg
Freinds and relatives from India. Indias pretty cool like that you can just buy any medication over the counter , no BS and cheap. Can send you a couple to try if you want , it would be interesting for me to get another persons opinion. You might get no effect.
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Where did you get them from? I have only seen 20mg

Indian generics (from big pharmas) include 40mg and 60mg.

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Indian generics (from big pharmas) include 40mg and 60mg.

of cialis active ingredient? really? 60 mg is crazy high though no?

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Superdrug has now listed the generic Tadalafil
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i hate the way they have a mark up of like 5000% from production

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of cialis active ingredient? really? 60 mg is crazy high though no?

Yeah it is rather high and not a huge saving over biting a 40 mg in half.

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i hate the way they have a mark up of like 5000% from production

Can't usnerdstand how they get away with this when ASDA are selling it at a tenth of the price? Are some people just to posh to have their boners powered by ASDA  :D

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Viagra doesn't work with me, tried the 50mg twice and it did nothing, then there's an escort that sells them and tried an 100mg once and it didn't work and the following day I had swollen red watery eyes, convinced it was because of the viagra! so I don't think I'll ever use that again, I use something else called Citrate, it's 100mg it's a blue pill found it on Ebay and it's a lot cheaper. I think I got it for like £12 for 20 pills! it does seem to work, okay it's not perfect and you need to be aroused and there are some moments it won't work but generally been okay for me. It also doesn't cause me any side effects either.

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That wouldn't be "Sildenafil citrate" would it?  :cool:

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That wouldn't be "Sildenafil citrate" would it?  :cool:


Yes that is the one :)

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Can't usnerdstand how they get away with this when ASDA are selling it at a tenth of the price? Are some people just to posh to have their boners powered by ASDA  :D

its like taking a shit....no one is too posh for it :D

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of cialis active ingredient? really? 60 mg is crazy high though no?

I understand that 20mg is the usual maximum dose for ED. 40mg is used to treat coronary hypertension. With 60mg you risk having no blood pressure at all!

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Yes that is the one :)

You do realise that is just the chemical name for viagra ...  :rolleyes:

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I understand that 20mg is the usual maximum dose for ED. 40mg is used to treat coronary hypertension. With 60mg you risk having no blood pressure at all!

completely agree. I know i am not a doctor but please guys dont touch that stuff  :scare:...at least not before talking to a physician

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I understand that 20mg is the usual maximum dose for ED. 40mg is used to treat coronary hypertension. With 60mg you risk having no blood pressure at all!

completely agree. I know i am not a doctor but please guys dont touch that stuff  :scare:...at least not before talking to a physician

It goes without saying that if you are a daft cunt or just want to play safe you should always do what you’re told and in fact that includes a full medical examination before taking an ED drug anyway.

For people in reasonably good health, who only experiment carefully, and no heart problems etc, 40mg is indeed sometimes prescribed. I never said you should take a higher dose: the normal dose is 20mg. But people coming on here scaremongering when they know fuck all or are simply being paternalistic fuckers as if they knew what was good for everybody else are just piss-offs.

We had the same crap artists said never buy viagra that is not made by Pfizer cos wow it might kill you. Actually, so might sex or drinking too much coffee. So maybe you should just check in to a nursing home now or stop being such a scaredey custard on behalf of people that have maybe been around longer and tried a fuck more things than your mother would ever approve of.

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It’s quite true that 40mg is used to treat Pulmonary Hypertension (that is, high blood pressure); but there are many people that have slightly high blood pressure that don’t fall into the clinical diagnosis of it being dangerously high. There’s a grey area in deciding when to offer medication for PO. So is Mr Blue Peter man saying that 40mg is going to kill such a person? Of course it fucking won’t. Or at least it is very highly unlikely. If you are going to experiment, and take say 25mg and feel a bit feint, we’ll clock it back to 20 or even 10mg. (btw, although they are not perfectly accurate without regular recalibration, it’s very easy to buy a blood pressure monitor and check your BP at home).

But the general point I have made occasionally (with more the experienced person in mind) is that 40mg tablets are easy to break in half, take up less space if you want to carry some discreetly, and generally save money (when you are treating them as 2 individual 20mg doses).

We all know what the standard dose is, and it’s printed on all the info leaflets. As with all medicines. But please can we maybe have less of the self-righteous paternalism ffs.  :hi:

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those prices are a rip off !!
Yup and Superdrug are one of the cheaper high st chains!

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It goes without saying that if you are a daft cunt or just want to play safe you should always do what you’re told and in fact that includes a full medical examination before taking an ED drug anyway.

For people in reasonably good health, who only experiment carefully, and no heart problems etc, 40mg is indeed sometimes prescribed. I never said you should take a higher dose: the normal dose is 20mg. But people coming on here scaremongering when they know fuck all or are simply being paternalistic fuckers as if they knew what was good for everybody else are just piss-offs.

We had the same crap artists said never buy viagra that is not made by Pfizer cos wow it might kill you. Actually, so might sex or drinking too much coffee. So maybe you should just check in to a nursing home now or stop being such a scaredey custard on behalf of people that have maybe been around longer and tried a fuck more things than your mother would ever approve of.

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It’s quite true that 40mg is used to treat Pulmonary Hypertension (that is, high blood pressure); but there are many people that have slightly high blood pressure that don’t fall into the clinical diagnosis of it being dangerously high. There’s a grey area in deciding when to offer medication for PO. So is Mr Blue Peter man saying that 40mg is going to kill such a person? Of course it fucking won’t. Or at least it is very highly unlikely. If you are going to experiment, and take say 25mg and feel a bit feint, we’ll clock it back to 20 or even 10mg. (btw, although they are not perfectly accurate without regular recalibration, it’s very easy to buy a blood pressure monitor and check your BP at home).

But the general point I have made occasionally (with more the experienced person in mind) is that 40mg tablets are easy to break in half, take up less space if you want to carry some discreetly, and generally save money (when you are treating them as 2 individual 20mg doses).

We all know what the standard dose is, and it’s printed on all the info leaflets. As with all medicines. But please can we maybe have less of the self-righteous paternalism ffs.  :hi:

damn man, people are touchy about a lot of things in this place.

Did i offend you too? Okay i raise my hands at the paternalism stuff...i am no one's daddy here (pretty sure of that)....and yes i may have been projecting my fears about going that high on to every one else....but i didnt think it warranted an aggressive response...or were the two posts you quoted the ones that broken the camels back?

clearly there is a personal element for you to something about what i said but i genuinely didnt mean to offend. i just had this image of people reaching for 60 mg unecessarily without trying alternatives or rationing etc and just yelled at the community "stop..be careful"...that is all

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damn man, people are touchy about a lot of things in this place.

Ahhh you don’t know me yet mate. I don’t waste emotion on the board. No raw nerves! I use strong language to get a point across. Nothing personal.

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Ahhh you don’t know me yet mate. I don’t waste emotion on the board. No raw nerves! I use strong language to get a point across. Nothing personal.

cheers fella

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You do realise that is just the chemical name for viagra ...  :rolleyes:


Is there any reason why citrate works for me but viagra doesn't seem too? I'm fine though as costs so much more less and no side effects :D

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Is there any reason why citrate works for me but viagra doesn't seem too? I'm fine though as costs so much more less and no side effects :D

Viagra = sildenafil citrate

H20 = water

Viagra is a brand name.


More than one name for the same thing mate. Maybe it was something you ate. Maybe it was the prossie. Maybe you were stressed. Who knows.  :unknown:

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My doctor quite ok to recommend cialls instead of viagra even though I take 3 tablets for Hypertension  actually suggested they last for 2/3 days and they do. Also since taking them my bald patches are regrowing hair - is this known side effect ?  ( yes I am serious )

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My doctor quite ok to recommend cialls instead of viagra even though I take 3 tablets for Hypertension  actually suggested they last for 2/3 days and they do. Also since taking them my bald patches are regrowing hair - is this known side effect ?  ( yes I am serious )

Again, something you could look up mate instead of asking on a punting forum...
... but although I’ve seen anecdotal reports (both for curing and causing), not seen anything in the medical press. Interestingly though, a connection has been suggested between hair re-growth drugs and ED (causing it).
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@ Marmalade - how would looking it up on google assist me when what I wanted to know was other forum members experiences ..........

Give yourself a rest you are becoming a bore ........ just saying

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@ Marmalade link shows Drugs to combat baldness cause ED that is not what I was suggesting.
I was suggest the opposite that drugs to assist with ED assist hair to regrow . Or at least that's what I thought/ meant to say, maybe these ED drugs are causing  me to have dementia too? Oh hang on a sec while I google that one too.

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@ Marmalade - how would looking it up on google assist me when what I wanted to know was other forum members experiences ..........

Give yourself a rest you are becoming a bore ........ just saying

Listen you cunt.

1. You asked. It was a right unusual request, bordering on idiotic. So you are not going to get a rush of members going yeah that has happened to me. I gave you the next best thing, that there was no known cases on the ncbi database. I mentioned the other connection merely out of interest.

2. You've been on here a mere three months, have contributed no reviews, and then you start being rude because you didn't get the answer you wanted to your weirdo question.

3. Are you speaking for the whole membership when you are calling me a bore? If so I seem to have lasted rather well. It's amazing how people have put up with me for so long, wouldn't you say? Maybe it could be because I contribute and at least try to help other punters, not leech and then complain, which is what you are doing.

10. This is not a medical forum. If you want to know if anyone's ears have turned pink after stuffing a viagra up each nose you should maybe try trollsrus.com or not allowed (they may take pity on you as a some sort of miscreant).

Anyway I shall not clog your narrow viewing screen from now on unless it is my intenton to severely piss you off, and that way you can read all the many experiences of forum members that want to entertain you with tales of their piss tasting of tequila after they swallowed a giant size asprin.

Happy trolling.  :hi: