Advice

[happy-jack]

Hi all,

Just after another point of view on something. I was recently offered a freebie by a wg to make up for a faff on with a earlier booking. I accepted and she was very insistent, a booking request filed and confirmed via aw. Well the freebie meeting was cancelled on the day and 2 polite messages about rescheduling have been ignored. At this point I'm still willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and even if she contacted me and said she could no longer honour the freebie I would be fine with it as its her body and business and her prerogative what she does with it and for how much and still would have made my usual future regular bookings. But I cant shake the feeling that she has regretted the offer and decided to just blank me rather than take the professional approach.

As I say I'm at a loss as I do enjoy bookings with her but feel that it would be difficult to do that in future because of this

[portable]

But I cant shake the feeling that she has regretted the offer and decided to just blank me rather than take the professional approach.

Sounds about right.

If you do see her again, just forget about it and see if she brings it up, and tell her what you've just said, that you're fine with it, but would have preferred to have been told. You're cool with her, but would rather know than not. She doesn't have to avoid you or anything.

[happy-jack]

Sounds about right.

If you do see her again, just forget about it and see if she brings it up, and tell her what you've just said, that you're fine with it, but would have preferred to have been told. You're cool with her, but would rather know than not. She doesn't have to avoid you or anything.

thanks for your input portable! good advice there I think, it would be a shame for this to effect the punter/wg arrangement we have built over numerous meets.

[Mansell]

Couple of questions.

1. Did she or you cancel the freebie.
2. Sounds like she is a regular to you, but what's that 2 or 3 times or 10 or 50 ?

Assuming she cancelled it, then the obvious advice is to move on, you shouldn't put up with being messing about, although it's really odd to get a complete punt free, a discount of up to 50% much more normal. Is there more to this than you have said ?

[happy-jack]

Couple of questions.

1. Did she or you cancel the freebie.
2. Sounds like she is a regular to you, but what's that 2 or 3 times or 10 or 50 ?

Assuming she cancelled it, then the obvious advice is to move on, you shouldn't put up with being messing about, although it's really odd to get a complete punt free, a discount of up to 50% much more normal. Is there more to this than you have said ?

she cancelled mate
and ive seen her 5 times in the last few month that's as regular as I will ever get tbh

there is more in terms of detail about the "faff on Punt", and the reasons for cancelling but nothing that would alter anyone's input on the topic in my op.

when all is said and done id be happy to write a more detailed account in the review section, but the basic facts are coverd in my op

[Mansell]

she cancelled mate
and ive seen her 5 times in the last few month that's as regular as I will ever get tbh

there is more in terms of detail about the "faff on Punt", and the reasons for cancelling but nothing that would alter anyone's input on the topic in my op.

when all is said and done id be happy to write a more detailed account in the review section, but the basic facts are coverd in my op

Thanks, that's quiet a lot of times which suggests you want to go back. So Portable's advice sounds the best way forward. I'd maybe leave the review till this get sorted one way or the other.

[happy-jack]

Thanks, that's quiet a lot of times which suggests you want to go back. So Portable's advice sounds the best way forward.

yeah I would not like this to be the end of our acquaintance but at the same time if the worst case scenario is true ie she just thought fuck him (or not rather) I'm not so sure.

once again thanks guys its nice to have another perspective rather than drawing my own probably wrong conclusions.

I don't want to review just yet. just because if it is all a misunderstanding a negative review would not be fair to the wg and could wrongly effect others decision to book which would be unfair to them also.

[Inquisitive Male]

Sorry to hear of your cancelled meeting and subsequent dilemma particularly as the escort in question would appear to be a lady that you very much like given the frequency of your recent meets. Always more difficult, when the escort is someone you feel an empathy toward.
It's just that you say that 'two polite messages have been ignored'. Can I ask if those messages are telephone messages, texts or email, and if your messages were the latter of these have the email been opened. It could be she is embarrassed by the situation she has created and now has a dilemma of her own and mistakenly believes silence is away of avoiding the problem. Which of course doesn't solve your problem.

[happy-jack]

Sorry to hear of your cancelled meeting and subsequent dilemma particularly as the escort in question would appear to be a lady that you very much like given the frequency of your recent meets. Always more difficult, when the escort is someone you feel an empathy toward.
It's just that you say that 'two polite messages have been ignored'. Can I ask if those messages are telephone messages, texts or email, and if your messages were the latter of these have the email been opened. It could be she is embarrassed by the situation she has created and now has a dilemma of her own and mistakenly believes silence is away of avoiding the problem. Which of course doesn't solve your problem.

Both were AW messages, one was my reply to her cancellation which was along the lines of "no problem hope all is ok, we can always reschedule" and the other was a few days later in a similar style.
the first was read, not deleted or replied to. the second I've since deleted from my sent box so don't know if its been read.

if she is embarrassed and thinks id kick off or anything my only hope is she might see this post and realise I'm not fussed about the freebie but would like to continue meeting her. As it stands id say that is my best case scenario and the way I hope it turns out.

[Mansell]

Both were AW messages, one was my reply to her cancellation which was along the lines of "no problem hope all is ok, we can always reschedule" and the other was a few days later in a similar style.
the first was read, not deleted or replied to. the second I've since deleted from my sent box so don't know if its been read.

if she is embarrassed and thinks id kick off or anything my only hope is she might see this post and realise I'm not fussed about the freebie but would like to continue meeting her. As it stands id say that is my best case scenario and the way I hope it turns out.

Worth emailing asking for another booking on a completely fresh email suggesting a day and time when she is normally working and see what happens, then go from there. Not making excuses but sometimes girls have problems getting on AW, has her profile mentioned any problems ?

[happy-jack]

Worth emailing asking for another booking on a completely fresh email suggesting a day and time when she is normally working and see what happens, then go from there. Not making excuses but sometimes girls have problems getting on AW, has her profile mentioned any problems ?

there was something on the other day that could have been in relation to that, a bit of light at the end of the tunnel maybe?

but my own devils advocate side would say "that was a few days ago, she has read at least one email and it seems she's up and running now"

[BMN]

Drop her one last message outlining that, even if she doesn't want to offer the freebie, you would still like to meet her under the usual arrangement, and that there'll be no hard feelings.

If she then ignores that, then i'd just move on. No point upsetting / worrying yourself over it, and there are plenty more fish in the sea.

[happy-jack]

Drop her one last message outlining that, even if she doesn't want to offer the freebie, you would still like to meet her under the usual arrangement, and that there'll be no hard feelings.

If she then ignores that, then i'd just move on. No point upsetting / worrying yourself over it, and there are plenty more fish in the sea.

Thanks BMN I think the course of action will be something along these lines.

[Highlander]

Hi all,

Just after another point of view on something. I was recently offered a freebie by a wg to make up for a faff on with a earlier booking. I accepted and she was very insistent, a booking request filed and confirmed via aw. Well the freebie meeting was cancelled on the day and 2 polite messages about rescheduling have been ignored. At this point I'm still willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and even if she contacted me and said she could no longer honour the freebie I would be fine with it as its her body and business and her prerogative what she does with it and for how much and still would have made my usual future regular bookings. But I cant shake the feeling that she has regretted the offer and decided to just blank me rather than take the professional approach.

As I say I'm at a loss as I do enjoy bookings with her but feel that it would be difficult to do that in future because of this

Your gut feeling is bang on but you know this really. Move on mate. She's disrespected you IMO. Sorry, but you need to know you're just a weekly paycheck to her so this relationship you've built up is likely all in your head. She's made an offer out of guilt at messing you around originally then changed her mind when her business head has kicked in (time is money). She clearly doesn't value you as a client or respect you enough to honour her promise. You're at risk of seeming a pushover, woman like her will walk all over you if you give off this vibe. Sorry to be blunt; tough love. 

[happy-jack]

Your gut feeling is bang on but you know this really. Move on mate. She's disrespected you IMO. Sorry, but you need to know you're just a weekly paycheck to her so this relationship you've built up is likely all in your head. She's made an offer out of guilt at messing you around originally then changed her mind when her business head has kicked in (time is money). She clearly doesn't value you as a client or respect you enough to honour her promise. You're at risk of seeming a pushover, woman like her will walk all over you if you give off this vibe. Sorry to be blunt; tough love.

I know where your coming from highlander trust me. But if you read my posts back this is an arrangement to me to. I haven't once called it a relationship and totally realise what we both get out of it. I get to spend time with a beautiful woman and she is compensated for hers. I called it a faff on because it was that, that booking went ahead on the right day right time it was a normal booking but for a few details. Nothing too wrong to me but it amounted to the wg making the offer.

[Pen2015]

Let me get this straight. An (as yet) unnamed WG has essentially over-committed when offering compen' for messing you around. Now it appears she's thought, "fuck that".

I get to spend time with a beautiful woman and she is compensated for hers.

Unless you've got a bit of EAS, you know there are loads of other "beautiful women" you can compensate don't you? Or are you hoping she reads this thread & thinks, "oh shit forgot to get back to Jack with that complete freebie!"? If she does get back to you, tell her to pm me & I'll pay for it (*I won't. I'll ignore her...).

I'll start the chant. All together now...

Name and shame!
Name and shame!!
Name and shame!!!
Name and shame!!!!

[happy-jack]

Let me get this straight. An (as yet) unnamed WG has essentially over-committed when offering compen' for messing you around. Now it appears she's thought, "fuck that".

Unless you've got a bit of EAS, you know there are loads of other "beautiful women" you can compensate don't you? Or are you hoping she reads this thread & thinks, "oh shit forgot to get back to Jack with that complete freebie!"? If she does get back to you, tell her to pm me & I'll pay for it (*I won't. I'll ignore her...).

I'll start the chant. All together now...

Name and shame!
Name and shame!!
Name and shame!!!
Name and shame!!!!

my comment about beautiful women and time compensated was a general description of all punter and wg interaction. not specifically this case

[Dimond dave]

There's a rule of thumb I have had most of my life and it's done me well ,,, if it sounds to good to be true then it is to good to be true 

[Mucher]

I was the same when i first started doing this i used to meet the same lady every week and got it in to my head that what she used to say to me about when i missed a week she really missed me coming to see her then one day it finally dawned on me that it was the money she missed and not me as a poster further up has said i was just another pay check to her my advice is move on mate plenty more out there 

[AnthG]

Your gut feeling is bang on but you know this really. Move on mate. She's disrespected you IMO. Sorry, but you need to know you're just a weekly paycheck to her so this relationship you've built up is likely all in your head. She's made an offer out of guilt at messing you around originally then changed her mind when her business head has kicked in (time is money). She clearly doesn't value you as a client or respect you enough to honour her promise. You're at risk of seeming a pushover, woman like her will walk all over you if you give off this vibe. Sorry to be blunt; tough love.

Highlander has basically summed up everything to a tea.

Basically

I was recently offered a freebie by a wg to make up for a faff on with a earlier booking. I accepted and she was very insistent, a booking request filed and confirmed via aw.

1. She knew she had acted poorly and thus felt the right and reasonable thing to do would be to offer the freebie.

She obviously from the get go didn't want to do it. So then thought to try and justify doing it in her head, and try to make it somehow beneficial to her, tried to force the booking to be made via AW to thus ensure a good review and field report comes from you as a result on AW. (if you seen her for free, you would be more inclined to write a glowing field report)

Well the freebie meeting was cancelled on the day and 2 polite messages about rescheduling have been ignored.

2. On the day her WG mind kicked in and thought to herself, hang on, I am doing this for no money whatsoever. Fuck him. And so just blanked you and ignored your messages

if she is embarrassed and thinks id kick off or anything my only hope is she might see this post and realise I'm not fussed about the freebie but would like to continue meeting her. As it stands id say that is my best case scenario and the way I hope it turns out.

3. If you say and do this, then you are giving her an open invitation to treat you like shit on every subsequent booking. And it is unfortunately the case of she will do. She will take mega advantage and you will end up getting just a fraction of the service you received up until this.

The thing you have not mentioned that is really relevent to this is how long it has been since the cancelled booking and ignored messages. A week, two weeks, or just a few days? The longer it goes on the more obvious it is she has just blanked you and does not care (or want) your business.

The simple facts of the issue

a. She messed you over so badly to warrant a free booking.
b. She then on the day cancelled as she figured she is losing some money clearly thinking to herself she does not care if you never book her ever again.
c. She knows how wrongly she has acted, by the simple fact of her ignoring all of your messages. And there is also (depending on the length of time and how much she has logged into AW) no justifiable real life excuse (if she has never one logged into AW or just done it one or so days then maybe an excuse exists, if its everyday she has logged in then it was deliberate blanking).
d. If you go back now and start paying full price ignoring the freebie she messed you over with, you are in effect saying to her its open season to treat you like dirt and you will just accept it. And trust me she will do this from then on in. 

The three options are.

1. Write a negative now on it all and move on
or
2. If its only been a short period. Wait longer and see if she responds (but if you are talking going over two weeks from this then you really are hitting at your answer to this)
or
3. Message her and say direct. I am starting to think you deliberately ignored my booking. If I am wrong please can you contact me to re-arrange it. And tell her if she did mess you around and thus ignores your message now that you fully intend to write a negative field report review for her both on Adultwork and on UKpunting based on the original issue that caused the free booking. And also the fact that she deliberately messed you around.

[Looking4fun]

Leave negative feedback & do a review if she can muck you around after seeing her that many times over the past few months she's not going to think twice about doing it to other punters imo