Living and dating a WG

[shagmore]

For the last 3 months I have been dating and living with a WG, she was a regular of mine and over time we got to know each other and then took the bold step to get to together, for the first few weeks she carried on working, but then gave it up as could not mix both business and pleasure.
Unfortunately the relationships ended, she pulled away as was not in the right mind set.
These last 3 months have been the happiest of my life, it has made me see the world differently, and she has made me a better person, I wish her all the best, I still love her.
You will probably all think I am an idiot but getting to know her was amazing, seeing the difference in her from the first few weeks to the last was remarkable, she was one of the most loving person I know. I wish her well. What will she do, will she go back into the industry, I hope not as it was not good for her. Being a WG has effected her.
Everyone who gets into this business has a different story, but being forced into it at such young age gave her issues which she has found hard coming to terms and is only now realising this and having to address it, and ultimately I believed caused the break up.
Will I go back to punting, I do not know, it makes me look at WGs in a different light, they are people with souls, some have entered into it willingly, others, and I think a good many are not, I do not want to be the guy who is taking advantage of these women.
Why am I wring this, because I have been a punter, I know that what I did has effected people, not all (one brush does not cover all ) but some.
I have full respect for these WGs, I have to get my life sorted.
I still look at this site and contribute, but I am a changed person in how I see things, she has done that to me, for the better. She has made me see the issues I have had from an early age and now I have to try and piece my self back together.
When you are banging away with a WG, spare a second to think about them, do I have any regrets in what I have done, no. The only things in life I regret are the things I could have done when I had the opportunity but didn't take.
Which category should this go in, I do not know, hopefully the mods will move if not the right place.

What am I trying to say, I think have more respect for these people, it effects them (again not all) I just feel I had to put this down to try to make me come to terms with what I have lost

[Blackpool Rock]

Well there's a few on here who post about dating WG's and until recently I recall you posting about how great things were so i'm sorry it's gone South so quickly.

I can think of a couple of girls that I saw fairly regularly where I started developing feeling for them and could tell there was also something there the other way round however in both of their cases while I would have been happy to get more involved I also knew that the ending would likely be a car crash as they both had various issues

[Thephoenix]

I assume you've broken up.
That's a shame.
We were under the impression it was possibly a happily ever after story.
I get the impression that you lacked respect for WG in the past and so have learnt a lesson.
That's good, but don't assume we all lack that respect.
Good luck, and dare I say...Happy punting! .......but watch out for the EAS. 

[infidel_castro]

That's good, but don't assume we all lack that respect.
Good luck, and dare I say...Happy punting! .......but watch out for the EAS. 

This. Did OP really have to live with a WG to finally realize they're human and have their own lives/life stories/experiences/traumas/problems and so on...

[Mr Garmin]

For the last 3 months I have been dating and living with a WG

You kept that quiet 

[shagmore]

Well there's a few on here who post about dating WG's and until recently I recall you posting about how great things were so i'm sorry it's gone South so quickly.

I can think of a couple of girls that I saw fairly regularly where I started developing feeling for them and could tell there was also something there the other way round however in both of their cases while I would have been happy to get more involved I also knew that the ending would likely be a car crash as they both had various issues

Thanks,  appreciate that

[shagmore]

I assume you've broken up.
That's a shame.
We were under the impression it was possibly a happily ever after story.
I get the impression that you lacked respect for WG in the past and so have learnt a lesson.
That's good, but don't assume we all lack that respect.
Good luck, and dare I say...Happy punting! .......but watch out for the EAS. 

Yes its over, and I was hoping it would be a happy ever after story

And NO, I never have disrespected WGs, what i was trying to say is  that being with her I learnt a lot about my self and how I can improve as a person

Thanks for your kind words

[shagmore]

This. Did OP really have to live with a WG to finally realize they're human and have their own lives/life stories/experiences/traumas/problems and so on...

No, i have never disrespected wgs.
I was fully aware thatcthey are people like us, it was getting at myself, understanding my issues that I have learnt.
In no way have I ever knowingly disrespected a wg,

[shagmore]

You kept that quiet 

Sorry about that.
Pity its all over

[scutty brown]

Sounds like it's time for the OP to join the Salvation Army and find other girls he can help

[Nomerzypuntr]

OP shag more 

[shagmore]

Re-reading my initial post, I see why people will think I did not have respect for WGs, what I was trying to portray was that I have even more respect for them.

[MissWolf]

Genuinely sad for you both that this has not worked out.

Hopefully you can both remain friends and be supportive of each other going forward 

[Stevelondon]

Well it looks like you didn’t want the relationship to end. So I guess you will take a little time to let feelings sort themselves out before you move on so to speak.

I’ve got escort/Dom friends. Not romantically linked but been as close as you could get I suppose 😂

You mentioned looking at WG’s differently since your involvement with this one.
It’s not something I’ve ever had to do. I’ve always treat people with the same respect they show to me, SP’s included.

It’s been said on here before. SP’s are human too.
I’m guessing a few punters are too 

Good luck buddy 👍🏻

[Mr Garmin]

I could have posted some of what SM wrote in his op. 

The Idea of dating a WG would have been a complete anathema to me when younger however my opinion has changed drastically.

I briefly was seeing a retired WG and would have loved for it to go somewhere.  However, from the outset I knew that it couldn't work, age gap, geography, personal circumstances (on her part) but it didn't stop me at least trying. 

[Sinnerman10]

All the wg’s I know seem happy, always going on holidays, getting surgery done always on shopping sprees living their best lives.

Any chance of a link op, so if she does decide on coming back, I could bang her brains out and then think for a second 

[Everard Dick]

My advice FWIW is don't feel sorry for working girls. They make a lot more money than we think. Their charge out rate is comparable to consultants or  lawyers. I joked to one SP that I could help make her 2 grand a week easily by rewriting her profile and other tips at which point she laughed in my face and said, '2 grand a week. Do you think I make that? I make 4 grand easily most weeks!"

[Upsndowns79]

Sorry to hear that shag more I know you were invested and it’s never easy when a relationship breaks down.

Take your time to find the answers to your questions and you’ll find the right ones.

[jamiekinkxxx]

Well it looks like you didn’t want the relationship to end. So I guess you will take a little time to let feelings sort themselves out before you move on so to speak.

I’ve got escort/Dom friends. Not romantically linked but been as close as you could get I suppose 😂

You mentioned looking at WG’s differently since your involvement with this one.
It’s not something I’ve ever had to do. I’ve always treat people with the same respect they show to me, SP’s included.

It’s been said on here before. SP’s are human too.
I’m guessing a few punters are too 

Good luck buddy 👍🏻

This!

I am the same Steve, I have known some escorts and ProDomme's for years now and we go out as friends a few times a year. Total respect to them and all the ones I meet

[shagmore]

Genuinely sad for you both that this has not worked out.

Hopefully you can both remain friends and be supportive of each other going forward 

Many thanks, appreciate that

[shagmore]

All the wg’s I know seem happy, always going on holidays, getting surgery done always on shopping sprees living their best lives.

Any chance of a link op, so if she does decide on coming back, I could bang her brains out and then think for a second 

Rather senseless and no i will not post a link, its comments like that that show you have no respect

[shagmore]

My advice FWIW is don't feel sorry for working girls. They make a lot more money than we think. Their charge out rate is comparable to consultants or  lawyers. I joked to one SP that I could help make her 2 grand a week easily by rewriting her profile and other tips at which point she laughed in my face and said, '2 grand a week. Do you think I make that? I make 4 grand easily most weeks!"

Complete  miss understanding,  not all Ws are like that, this one wasn't, it was just to put food on the table, she didn't live a lavish lifestyle and wasn't getting off on holidays, she was very careful with money as she knew its true worth

[Sinnerman10]

Rather senseless and no i will not post a link, its comments like that that show you have no respect

If there’s no link, to me it’s complete bullshit.
Just another made up, past time post.

[shagmore]

If there’s no link, to me it’s complete bullshit.
Just another made up, past time post.

Think what you want.
I know its real.
Even if she went back onto AW I still wouldn't post a link as I have far to much respect for her, something you obviously do not now the meaning of the word

[Doc Holliday]

If there’s no link, to me it’s complete bullshit.
Just another made up, past time post.

Have you ever considered a career as a Relationship Counsellor?

Oh and I have known many fantasists over the years bullshit about being in a relationship and Shagmore does not fit that profile.

[Narayan1]

I've had a relationship with a escort  for over 3 years and to be honest it opened my eyes to what she had to put up with for work , the constant time wasters and just complete wasters puts a different perspective on the industry

[Sinnerman10]

Have you ever considered a career as a Relationship Counsellor?

Oh and I have known many fantasists over the years bullshit about being in a relationship and Shagmore does not fit that profile.

No I haven’t considered a career in relationship counselling,  which is totally irrelevant to this post.
All I did, was ask him for a link to the Wg. So I could have a go on her. Due to them not being together no more. So I just don’t understand why you would put up something so stupid like me considering a career in relationship counselling. Makes no sense whatsoever.

He also put up she was forced in to prostitution at a young age is complete bollox, we don’t live in a 3rd world country, there’s law and order here. If anyone is forced in to this sort of thing then they could easily contact the authorities. Prossies make shit loads of moneys and they enjoy what they do, the ones I’ve been seeing definitely do.

[Doc Holliday]

No I haven’t considered a career in relationship counselling,  which is totally irrelevant to this post.
All I did, was ask him for a link to the Wg. So I could have a go on her. Due to them not being together no more. So I just don’t understand why you would put up something so stupid like me considering a career in relationship counselling. Makes no sense whatsoever.

Firstly the relationship counsellor was a light hearted comment and which clearly went over your head 

However lets examine your motive for wanting a link. You say it is so you can go and see her. Why would you want to do that?

Firstly she would not be in your area and secondly probably not be your type etc. So would it be so that you can come on here and say "oh I just shagged your ex girlfriend"? Now do you see the relevance of the counsellor joke?

[Doc Holliday]

 Just noticed you added to your post

He also put up she was forced in to prostitution at a young age is complete bollox, we don’t live in a 3rd world country, there’s law and order here. If anyone is forced in to this sort of thing then they could easily contact the authorities. Prossies make shit loads of moneys and they enjoy what they do, the ones I’ve been seeing definitely do.

Not only have you no sense of humour, but you are out of touch with reality.

[Sinnerman10]

The whole purpose being on this forum is to help each other out, give intel, your friend can’t pass over an aw link, because he don’t want sinnerman pumping his ex. Straight forward as that. 

[Narayan1]

I reply to the above comment ( sorry can't quote on the message ) but I don't think you have any ideal what happens in their lives and waht happens behind the scenes, you only ever see an escort for your booking time

In my opinion you are only asking for a link as you see an escort open to more , this leads to conflictions in escort / client relationships and emotional attachments.

I also think you are nieve in thinking that some women are forced (sorry wrong term ) led into this work against there will

[Sinnerman10]

Just noticed you added to your post

Not only have you no sense of humour, but you are out of touch with reality.

Yeah you have all the sense of humour and your the one that’s in reality 
And everyone else is a touch out of reality

[Narayan1]

Sinnerman

I would stick to bookings and not chase anything else

[Snagbadjer]

Sorry about your woes mate. It happens. I have had similar thoughts after getting to know a couple of the SPs a bit better. All of them get abused, threatened, and often roughed up, usually by a particular demographic. Yes, we are contributing to it - no point denying it.

Hope you feel better soon.

Honest advice is to cut her off, not to be a dick, but you can't save someone like that. You have to let them do it themselves. And it can happen but it's rare.

[Narayan1]

Agree to that

[Doc Holliday]

your friend can’t pass over an aw link, because he don’t want sinnerman pumping his ex. Straight forward as that. 

But you wouldn't be pumping his ex. You said he was making it up?

[Narayan1]

I don't honestly get this ??? Pumping a clinets ex ? This isn't love island !

It's a paid interaction ! When it crosses borders it becomes complicated

[Sinnerman10]

But you wouldn't be pumping his ex. You said he was making it up?

Ffs just get your pal to put her link up, prove me wrong simple 

[Sinnerman10]

Sinnerman

I would stick to bookings and not chase anything else

All sinnerman does is sticks to his bookings, I just want to see if she’s worth a bang or not. No harm in that is there?

[Narayan1]

Privacy is best option here I think

[Narayan1]

All the wg’s I know seem happy, always going on holidays, getting surgery done always on shopping sprees living their best lives.

Any chance of a link op, so if she does decide on coming back, I could bang her brains out and then think for a second 

Why would you want a link??

[Blackpool Rock]

Ffs just get your pal to put her link up, prove me wrong simple 

But the OP said she'd given up working therefore no link to give 

I've often joked that other members should post up a link in similar circumstances and there is sometimes a genuine curiosity but i'm getting the feeling that your request is both real and perhaps somewhat misguided almost creepy / sinister 

[Narayan1]

Think what you want.
I know its real.
Even if she went back onto AW I still wouldn't post a link as I have far to much respect for her, something you obviously do not now the meaning of the word

Completely agree with you pal

[PilotMan]

My advice FWIW is don't feel sorry for working girls.  They make a lot more money than we think.

Seems like you have a money envy situation.

A good SP in London will easily be making a minimum of £1k per day.

[PilotMan]

@shagmore

I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. I have been in your shoes so I know the difficulties of a relationship with a WG.

This is just my theory, and nothing more than that.

First off, I think a lot of WG's have mental health issues, some caused by the work, some caused them to go in to the work. Either way, it's often difficult for them to maintain a relationship with one person who they can trust and commit to fully.

Second is the loss of security. A good SP will be making a lot of money and this provides them security in life, especially if they invest it well. So giving up that income and putting their reliance and faith in someone (who is known to visit Sex Workers) is a huge leap. Often too huge and scary to make.

It means that the relationship, when tested, often leaves the SP with an easy decision to go straight back in to the work, because it is that which makes them feel they have control over, and security in their life.

[Narayan1]

No sorry you are assuming and completely wrong ! Unless you have been in this situation you can't comment

[PilotMan]

No sorry you are assuming and completely wrong ! Unless you have been in this situation you can't comment

It's unclear who you are replying to - there's a "quote" button at the top right hand corner of a post, you need to use that and NOT the "reply" button.

See the screenshot

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And then reply AFTER the "[/quote]" box, not inside the other persons quote

[shagmore]

Thanks everyone for your support, really appreciate it
I am not going to say anything else on the matter, I need to get over this

[RyanM92]

@shagmore

I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. I have been in your shoes so I know the difficulties of a relationship with a WG.

This is just my theory, and nothing more than that.

First off, I think a lot of WG's have mental health issues, some caused by the work, some caused them to go in to the work. Either way, it's often difficult for them to maintain a relationship with one person who they can trust and commit to fully.

Second is the loss of security. A good SP will be making a lot of money and this provides them security in life, especially if they invest it well. So giving up that income and putting their reliance and faith in someone (who is known to visit Sex Workers) is a huge leap. Often too huge and scary to make.

It means that the relationship, when tested, often leaves the SP with an easy decision to go straight back in to the work, because it is that which makes them feel they have control over, and security in their life.

This might be one of the most calculated and honest comments/answers I’ve seen in a while for any thread. Has experience and offered advice. Hats off to you, PilotMan 

[Narayan1]

Its not to be honest , it's a one off assumption in my opinion