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Offline mcardle464

One thing that baffles me, is how many WGs have such totally awful photographs.  There's an old photographers joke about dark pix: "What's that a photo of? A black cat in a coal cellar." But that does sum up the state of some images.

Publicity is a cost of doing business.  All the performers I know have professional glossy pix of themselves - actors, dancers, mime artists, even street performers.  They recognise it is important to get gigs with a good image.  It is an ROI.

Why don't the majority of people on AW do the same?  A "boudoir" session with a professional glamour photographer would cost around £300.  I reckon the girl would earn that back in week or two through increased bookings.  I often don't bother with a girl if her pix are so bad I can't work out what she looks like, even if she has good reviews on here.

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Yep, agree, although I guess they don't want to attract too much attention?

I often wonder who takes the pictures, pimps, punters?

Offline SmackmaBitchUp

Relax....
This twats got it sussed.... Just take a photo of your photo from the 90,s!  :wackogirl:



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I would rather have untouched, non professional shots any day than some highly photo-shopped glamour images from a studio..  It would be easy enough for the girl to get a punter to take a few shots for her on her own camera / phone at the start /end of a booking - but the problem is the girl would not see it as an investment and probably ask the punter for more money for the privilege....duh..  If the girl is working low key then she can't get mates/friends/family to take pics obviously, so we end up with poor badly framed pics etc..   They are probably also fed up with countless emails from "professional photographers" offering to take pics for a free shag as well...

Offline mcardle464

OK, but surely you would prefer photoshopped images that you can actually see the girl to the dark smudges that could be a pic of anything which are a significant proportion of aw images?

potato

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OK, but surely you would prefer photoshopped images that you can actually see the girl to the dark smudges that could be a pic of anything which are a significant proportion of aw images?

I would prefer some amateur clear well lit shots so you could actually see what you want to see - the same as you I would think.  Unfortunately photoshopped images are just as bad because 2 stone can be shed instantly and all the spots, blemishes, stretch marks can be smoothed out as well - so they look nothing like the girl either!

yorkshire123

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No excuse in my book, even a basic smart phone comes with a half decent camera on it.
If they don't have someone to take some decent pictures for them then all they have to do is ask a punter to do it for them for extra time or even a discount, I'm sure some punters would be more than happy to oblige  :cool:
Its hardly rocket science  :dash:

Offline Happylad

One thing that baffles me, is how many WGs have such totally awful photographs.  There's an old photographers joke about dark pix: "What's that a photo of? A black cat in a coal cellar." But that does sum up the state of some images.

Publicity is a cost of doing business.  All the performers I know have professional glossy pix of themselves - actors, dancers, mime artists, even street performers.  They recognise it is important to get gigs with a good image.  It is an ROI.

Why don't the majority of people on AW do the same?  A "boudoir" session with a professional glamour photographer would cost around £300.  I reckon the girl would earn that back in week or two through increased bookings.  I often don't bother with a girl if her pix are so bad I can't work out what she looks like, even if she has good reviews on here.

I can think of 3 reasons:-
1. Most pro$$ies don`t believe in paying for anything that they can beg for nothing (except expensive holidays), so anything, however amateurish, is better than having to pay.  I have on  more than one occasion  taken photos (with the girl`s own camera) during a punt for the girl to use on AW

2. Very few pro$$ies have any real business sense - most of them start out with the belief that they are God`s gift to men and all that they have to do is say "here I am" and the punters will come flocking to their doors.  It is the same mentality and lack of business sense that causes them to ignore telephone calls and emails, fail to turn up for appointments, and generally piss off the customers whose business they need.

3. The brighter ones may realise that having a professional photographer can result in a breach of security.  Photographic images usually belong to the photographer, not to the client, and the photographer can use them to his own advantage.  I know of one girl who was caused a great deal of upset because her photographer used her pictures on the internet to advertise his own business, and nothing she could do legally to stop it.

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You need to remember that many of the photo's are very old and probably the pic flattened and then a picture taken of it on a phone and then uploaded, if you ask a pro$$ie why her pics are so bad they always use the same excuse "discretion" the reality is minger trying to disguise what they really look like  :hi:

a10

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As with most WGs that do something wrong, bad, stupidly complicated: they're thick  :wackogirl:

Offline hockogrockle

In my experience, at least, fabulous, professionally-taken, well-composed shots of a beautiful woman always turn out ot be part of a bait and switch operation, using photos hacked from a pornsite.
That said,I think quite a few women could do better than promote themselves using blurred selfies taken with their mobile phone.

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One thing that baffles me, is how many WGs have such totally awful photographs.  There's an old photographers joke about dark pix: "What's that a photo of? A black cat in a coal cellar." But that does sum up the state of some images.

Publicity is a cost of doing business.  All the performers I know have professional glossy pix of themselves - actors, dancers, mime artists, even street performers.  They recognise it is important to get gigs with a good image.  It is an ROI.

Why don't the majority of people on AW do the same?  A "boudoir" session with a professional glamour photographer would cost around £300.  I reckon the girl would earn that back in week or two through increased bookings.  I often don't bother with a girl if her pix are so bad I can't work out what she looks like, even if she has good reviews on here.

That's why this thread exists:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=10615.0  :sarcastic:


Apparantly, most (if not all) men prefer decent amateur pics or selfies, rather than glossy, over-tweaked, photo shopped glam photos. We all look beautiful with the right photographer/retoucher, while a decent amateur pic (good light, natural position, nice clothes etc) should show the 'real' us, so it temps you while at the same time not giving you a :scare: when we open the door to you!

Offline CatBBW

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If the girl is working low key then she can't get mates/friends/family to take pics obviously, so we end up with poor badly framed pics etc..   

No excuse - most cameras and phones have timers on them these days. Frame up the shot, set the timer, go stand/sit/lie in the area you framed up, pose, wait for the flash, go look at the photo, retake if crap.

Offline smiths

One thing that baffles me, is how many WGs have such totally awful photographs.  There's an old photographers joke about dark pix: "What's that a photo of? A black cat in a coal cellar." But that does sum up the state of some images.

Publicity is a cost of doing business.  All the performers I know have professional glossy pix of themselves - actors, dancers, mime artists, even street performers.  They recognise it is important to get gigs with a good image.  It is an ROI.

Why don't the majority of people on AW do the same?  A "boudoir" session with a professional glamour photographer would cost around £300.  I reckon the girl would earn that back in week or two through increased bookings.  I often don't bother with a girl if her pix are so bad I can't work out what she looks like, even if she has good reviews on here.

This problem isnt just on A/W though. Some Parlours and Agencies are as bad. The extreme photoshopping some use is ridiculous. :thumbsdown:

Offline Sedlmayer

As with most WGs that do something wrong, bad, stupidly complicated: they're thick  :wackogirl:

Yup - #prozilogic  :dancegirl:

Ben4454

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I think a working girl would benefit from unprofessional photos as well as professional photos. I personally prefer a working girl to have a casual sexy photo she has taken herself as her main picture. Makes her look more genuine and real opposed to a professional photo shes using as her display (Any professional photo I see as a display makes me think fake nowadays) If the main display picture is a picture she would put on facebook then the other photos need to be sexy or i will think it is just a timewaster.

Honestly though I have seen some garbage photos over the years. One working girl had a picture of her leg and thought that was sufficient enough to get punters to book her.

The most important things for me to see in a photo are the face and body. If the face can not be shown for personal security reasons than I want them to show the body in different positions and angles to make up for it to see if i fancy her or not.

One other thing that is not mentioned is if I see a girl in a picture wearing stockings and a tight mini skirt then i expect her to have these clothes available for the punt or a similar alternative.

Too many times I have seen a working girl and she is wearing stockings and suspenders in her profile yet when you turn up she says she doesn't have any.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2015, 07:45:42 pm by Ben4454 »

Offline Jimmyredcab

The reason they don't bother with decent photos is because you gentlemen will still visit them, yes, I mean YOU.     :bomb:

Offline smiths

The reason they don't bother with decent photos is because you gentlemen will still visit them, yes, I mean YOU.     :bomb:

Just like you will visit the London Retreat redcab who have no face pics they say due to discretion reasons. You posted you use them as you trust the pimp, well some of us trust other punters on here. You really are the most rank of hypocrites. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: January 06, 2015, 08:04:25 pm by smiths »

yorkshire123

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Just like you will visit the London Retreat redcab who have no face pics they say due to discretion reasons. You posted you use them as you trust the pimp, well some of us trust other punters on here. You really are the most rank of hypocrites. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Thought I would have a quick peep at said place's web site 
Great pictures (& too tight fisted to buy Photoshop, just elongate the picture to make the girls look thinner  :lol:)

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Offline superchamp

Something to hide - that's what usually sums up a photoshopped picture. And anything that looks too professional has me reaching for TinEye. I'm not arsed about the décor either, I just want a few natural, well lit photos to make a judgement. As others have said; not difficult at all with a decent phone. I can't believe there's many prossies that haven't splashed on a decent phone ffs.

Offline Jimmyredcab

I fully understand why some (most) prossies refuse to show their face but it is still possible to display acceptable photos with a little bit of effort, I just searched my area and this is one of the nearest girls to me ------------ how on earth could I be tempted with a photo like this which tells me absolutely nothing about her.     :dash: :dash:

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Offline Jimmyredcab

I thought you don't see romanians?  :D

This pic is a bit better:

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No, it's not, it is still totally shit.     :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:

You are correct, I don't see Romanians under any circumstances.     :hi:

Offline RedKettle

I also get annoyed at galleys that have loads of photos in, perhaps 50, that still fail to show you much.  You worked through them all and have no idea, for example, what her tits are like.  I would have thought an overall body shot, a picture showing her tits and an arse shot would be the minimum. 

Offline Jimmyredcab

I also get annoyed at galleys that have loads of photos in, perhaps 50, that still fail to show you much.  You worked through them all and have no idea, for example, what her tits are like.

If they don't show decent photos of their body then they probably have something to hide.     :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

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I thought you don't see romanians?  :D

This pic is a bit better:

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She looks like she's fallen over drunk and now can't get up in case she wets herself :sarcastic:

I don't think it's a good pic, the pose isn't flattering or revealing, and all you can see is that she has long hair and a pair of legs.

Quesadilla

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The secret to marketing is spending as much as you need to attract your customers - and no more. 
Why spend money on decent pics if you are getting enough business already?  A few selfies seems to do the job for many, I've had conversations with a few WG's and they just don't see any need.  As long as the phone's ringing...  :unknown: 

I personally prefer good quality natural looking selfies to glamour shots which have inevitably been photoshopped.

That said if there's a mix of selfies and professional shots it shows they've invested a bit of cash in their profile which is a positive in my view. 

Offline Jimmyredcab

The secret to marketing is spending as much as you need to attract your customers - and no more. 


It has absolutely nothing to do with money, this is not a professional photo but it gives a good idea of who you will be meeting, face hidden but quite acceptable.

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Offline StevenS

Thought I would have a quick peep at said place's web site 
Great pictures (& too tight fisted to buy Photoshop, just elongate the picture to make the girls look thinner  :lol:)

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That's Amy. She is absolutely stunning. Very tall very slim tanned and facially wow. I would love to know if she works anywhere else when she's not doing her day at the retreat.

a10

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... a good idea of who you will be meeting, face hidden but quite acceptable.

Thought you wouldn't see a WG if there was no face pic?  :D

But you're right, a good photo isn't hard to get. Just a phone and a friend is all you need

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Thought you wouldn't see a WG if there was no face pic?  :D

But you're right, a good photo isn't hard to get. Just a phone and a friend is all you need

You don't even need a friend. You just need to know how to use the timer.

Offline smiths

It has absolutely nothing to do with money, this is not a professional photo but it gives a good idea of who you will be meeting, face hidden but quite acceptable.

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Face hidden is quite acceptable to you now, you change your tune like the wind changes direction. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Offline Sedlmayer

It has absolutely nothing to do with money, this is not a professional photo but it gives a good idea of who you will be meeting, face hidden but quite acceptable.

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Quite agree with this - this type of picture is perfectly OK by me. The girl looks very nice - could we have a link please?

Offline smiths

Quite agree with this - this type of picture is perfectly OK by me. The girl looks very nice - could we have a link please?

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Offline Sedlmayer

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Ha ha ha - should have guessed  :D
Thanks Smiths, wasn't thinking, obviously

BTW - where is she based now. Profile says Kensington and Chelsea, interview says Highams Pk?
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Offline smiths

Ha ha ha - should have guessed  :D
Thanks Smiths, wasn't thinking, obviously

BTW - where is she based now. Profile says Kensington and Chelsea, interview says Highams Pk?

I read on a review thread about her that she had left Highams Park, no idea if thats permanent or not. Charging £20 an hour more than she did when in Highams Park i note.

Offline Sedlmayer

I read on a review thread about her that she had left Highams Park, no idea if thats permanent or not. Charging £20 an hour more than she did when in Highams Park i note.

And profile says "Last days in London" (though that could be a ploy to drum up business during a quiet period, of course  ;) )

greychap

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A lot of girls that work in the industry are simply very tight and don't like spending out, there is some that do go out of there way with better photos etc and those are the ones I try and book it shows they take the there chosen career more serious and no you have to spend a bit to make money.

Anyone who has awful photos has no pride as far as I am concerned but then should not really be surprised it seems a lot of escorts don't even drive or own a car and some of them are in there 30's and there getting taxis to outcalls. Sometimes you find escorts text you asking for you to phone them back as they have no credit or money to buy it I usually avoid then seeing those. Not organised at all :thumbsdown:

Offline smiths

A lot of girls that work in the industry are simply very tight and don't like spending out, there is some that do go out of there way with better photos etc and those are the ones I try and book it shows they take the there chosen career more serious and no you have to spend a bit to make money.

Anyone who has awful photos has no pride as far as I am concerned but then should not really be surprised it seems a lot of escorts don't even drive or own a car and some of them are in there 30's and there getting taxis to outcalls. Sometimes you find escorts text you asking for you to phone them back as they have no credit or money to buy it I usually avoid then seeing those. Not organised at all :thumbsdown:

Indeed, and this is why some WGs are WGs and why many work for pimps. As long as a WG or a pimp are organised enough to accept bookings they WILL get some punters, and possibly enough to get the money they need.

Never under-estimate the number of punters who arent members on here and punt like i did for 20 years pre-net in isolation. I have met some at parties over the years, sure they found the party online but knew nothing of sites like this.

Redhead Lover

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Yep, this has baffled me too.  Any half-decent phone will take a good pic these days!

Offline anyfucker

And profile says "Last days in London" (though that could be a ploy to drum up business during a quiet period, of course  ;) )
Not a ploy, she's moved out of her flat in highams and is leaving London:-( but intends to be back on tour - well that's what she told me recently.

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a10

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Not a ploy, she's moved out of her flat in highams and is leaving London:-( but intends to be back on tour - well that's what she told me recently.

Yeah, ok bud  :lol:

And she'll charge you extra for the privilege  :dash:

Steptoe

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I have been helping lady friends by sorting out their Adultwork profile page. Part of my help is receiving the photos they send me, removing the meta data (just in case) and then periodically changing the pics/ text on their profile according to who is working. 

I do not take the pics. They take them (with iPad).  Typically they send me a batch of 100 pics and I have to sort them out.

They are NOT photographers

I used to be eons ago (weddings mainly) but I never even offer to take the pics because I know they will say no
Like most parlours they have heavy, coloured, curtains on the windows
They do not appreciate that means
a. The camera is working at wide lens aperture/ slow shutter speed so depth of field is crap and pics are not always sharp
b. The pics have a nasty colour cast from the curtains/ walls

Still, I have done my best and apart from that they are all "head cut off" pics the result is not bad.  I will sort the heads-off issue another time.

I think I will lend them a proper camera / tripod and flash reflector

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a10

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I have been helping lady friends by sorting out their Adultwork profile page. Part of my help is receiving the photos they send me, removing the meta data (just in case) and then periodically changing the pics/ text on their profile according to who is working. 

I do not take the pics. They take them (with iPad).  Typically they send me a batch of 100 pics and I have to sort them out.

They are NOT photographers

I used to be eons ago (weddings mainly) but I never even offer to take the pics because I know they will say no
Like most parlours they have heavy, coloured, curtains on the windows
They do not appreciate that means
a. The camera is working at wide lens aperture/ slow shutter speed so depth of field is crap and pics are not always sharp
b. The pics have a nasty colour cast from the curtains/ walls

Still, I have done my best and apart from that they are all "head cut off" pics the result is not bad.  I will sort the heads-off issue another time.

I think I will lend them a proper camera / tripod and flash reflector

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So... you're a pimp then?  :D

Steptoe

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So... you're a pimp then?  :D

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Not really or at least I do not think of it that way BECAUSE I receive absolutely NOTHING by way of return from the ladies.  I never ask for favours either financial or service. Indeed, I always pay my way when I visit them.

What I do for them is because
****** warning ***** outbreak of fluffiness ****

I happen to be emotionally attached to the (non-working) owner of the place and what I do is to try to help her make a go of her business

I do enjoy doing the AW job for them. In the same way I quite enjoy mending the showers/ cooker/ heating, doing some decorating, taking them shopping etc.  I do this because we are FRIENDS
I feel more at home in their place than I do in my own house.

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