Are extras ever worth it ?

[johnybravo]

Having recently paid 20 quid each for two, dfk, and ro with a Thai girl, I am reasonably convinced that SWs who offer extras for extra money are unlikely to be into it ?

Or is it a Thai thing , are Brazilians more involved with their extras

What do we think ?

[hendrix]

I've never paid extras and never will.

[Davey Dykes]

You're pretty much right enough. If it's offered as an extra then not a normal service offering and reluctant to indulge much. Obviously, there will be exceptions but rule of thumb tends to be not too far off the beaten track.

[RandomGuy99]

There's a few Thai SPs where the extras are worth paying as they do get into it.

[SamAsh]

Most Thai girls charge extra for OWO and CIM and they're almost always enthusiastic with it. I don't think most mind these two services if they are offering them and if you can charge more why wouldn't you!

[Stevelondon]

I almost always punt with SP’s who have a fixed price and as they provide all the services I require anyway. I just don’t pay extras.

If I did I would probably be looking at it from the point of view of …….. What is the base price anyway AND would it be stretching the expense too far to pay for the add ons. 🤷🏼

I mean I’ve read some reviews on here where a 60 minute punt has been possibly in the region of £150-£200……… but ends up being £300-£400 because of the extras.

Personally it’s never the cost of extras that would bother me as what was the complete cost altogether.

[signy]

IMO, it depends...

There are some extras that are justifiable. This might be because the SP doesn't want to do them too often, such as anal, impact play (especially if hard/marking) or rough sex, but otherwise is OK and does them well. Alternatively, she might allow for preparation time and/or clean-up time, such as anal (again), wearing latex, complicated costumes or sploshing.

Then there are extras where the SP doesn't want or like to do them, but for extra money will allow them, although delivery is often poor as the reluctance comes across. Examples might be CIM, fingering, deepthroat or watersports.

Finally, there are those SPs just taking the piss. Kissing, receiving oral, 69, uniforms, etc., etc. Definitely to be avoided as a negative experience is on the cards.

Generally, each case needs to be assessed separately. What is the overall price? Are there one or two OK extras, or a long list? How does the profile come across overall? What do reviews on here say?

[SOSPunter]

The only thing I'd ever pay extra for is DFK - but then I do have a kissing fetish !  I know many think that kissing should be a standard "free" offering, but so few SP's in my experience offer what I deem to be DFK. In fact I may start a thread (I know there have been many before in the subject) on exactly what the definition of DFK is, because so many I've met say they do it, and don't. So, long answer to a short question - I'd willingly pay more for genuine DFK

[mancsguy1975]

The only time id pay for extras is a SP who takes a messy facial like an absolute trooper, with no cum dodging whatsoever 

[Nomerzypuntr]

Like others mentioned here, extras are worth when seeing well reviewed SPs, ll opt for DFK as extras.
About CIM OWO Anal I’ll do only if these services included in hourly price rate, not extras.
It’s becoz sometimes if we calculate the extras price range, we can do threesome or another punting next day. It all depends on my income

[FLYING BLUE]

I have no objection to 'extra's' per se but for goodness sake, please be upfront & honest with it in the advert.

Pisses me off greatly, when just about to make a booking, only to be suddenly informed that OWO is £30 extra on a 30 min booking

[simon07]

Sometimes the answer is Yes. I might ask for a sample kiss and often i pay as kissing a hot beautiful Thai or Brazilian woman is much fun.

Of course you could pass and get nothing of value.

[Upsndowns79]

I used to have a bee in my bonnet about extras but copped myself on.

In reality the price of extras is irrelevant. The overall cost is the only important thing.

If a girl provides a good service for £120 ph but charges and extra £20 each for DFK and OWO then she is still good overall value at £160 per hour.

In my experience with the right research here you can tell the ones where it’s worth paying the extra and the ones where it’s better to not bother.

I also find that in 30 min bookings it’s not good value as it can cost nearly as much as an hour at the basic rate.

[pythondan]

I like the basic services I want to be included in the standard fee - so kissing, OWO and reverse oral. I am fine with paying extra for anal and filming but not anything else.

[Upsndowns79]

I like the basic services I want to be included in the standard fee - so kissing, OWO and reverse oral. I am fine with paying extra for anal and filming but not anything else.

So, hypothetically  if you had 2 girls

Girl 1 was £120 per hour but charged £20 each for DFK and OWO

Girl 2 was £180 per hour hour Inc these services

Both are attractive and stacks of positive reviews. Which one do you choose?

[Pleasure4ever]

So, hypothetically  if you had 2 girls

Girl 1 was £120 per hour but charged £20 each for DFK and OWO

Girl 2 was £180 per hour hour Inc these services


Both are attractive and stacks of positive reviews. Which one do you choose?

I CHOOSE THE ONE WITH BETTER REVIEWS HERE

[simon07]

Girl 1 

[Upsndowns79]

I CHOOSE THE ONE WITH BETTER REVIEWS HERE

Me 2 but assuming they are very similar and you think they are both FAF?

[Nomerzypuntr]

I CHOOSE THE ONE WITH BETTER REVIEWS HERE

Same

[Fookmefooku]

I'm more inclined to take the girl who's all inclusive as to me, she must enjoy giving those services

[koshkaj]

Like others have said, it depends on the total and how important they are to you. If you have a price range in mind that the extras do not exceed, then i don't think it makes much difference.

The only exception is RO. This should never be paid extra for under any circumstances. Fucking diabolical.

[johnybravo]

So, hypothetically  if you had 2 girls

Girl 1 was £120 per hour but charged £20 each for DFK and OWO

Girl 2 was £180 per hour hour Inc these services

Both are attractive and stacks of positive reviews. Which one do you choose?

I think I am more likely to get full on extras with the one that doesn’t charge for it as an extra ,


Does anyone think there is a difference in the enthusiasm for some of the extras in different races ?

I haven’t been with many Brazilians , I have heard for then DFK isn’t a big deal and therefore more liberal with it ?

[southcoastpunter]

The only exception is RO. This should never be paid extra for under any circumstances. Fucking diabolical.

Good of you to tell others how to spend (or not spend) their money!
So What is so special about RO to make it “ not to be paid for “ it’s a service like all the others!

The Ops question was “are ( paid)  extras worth it” - which imo is a bit of a pointless question as some will stay yes , some will say no and others will say “well it depends” - which is pretty much what has happened!

[Jonestown]

I’ve happily paid £20 extra in many a Chinese rotational on top of the £70 door fee, and I can see that mid-range SPs would want to charge extra for the likes of anal or CIM, but it’s beyond me how £300/£400 plus girls can justify extras, except for possible filming.

[johnybravo]

I will rephrase

How often have you paid for extras and it was worth it because the SW got into it

[Upsndowns79]

I will rephrase

How often have you paid for extras and it was worth it because the SW got into it

Yes and often

By reading reviews on here it’s easy to spot a girl who is worth paying the extra for a service that I like.

[LLPunting]

Yes and often

By reading reviews on here it’s easy to spot a girl who is worth paying the extra for a service that I like.

Your support for extras is highly conditional on some other chancer getting lucky and reporting it here for you to benefit from.
Having read many reviews of the girls reported here in London who charge extras on a sub 160 ph base, the vast majority don't justify the price, especially when you get past the hyperbolics of some reviewers.

[JonasG]

Definitely worth it in some cases.

There's a good few Thais over the last few years who charge extra for DFK and it gets delivered to a top level.

[Jomoore]

It seems clear that this question is being answered differently by those who, a) frequent independents, AW etc and b) those who use cheap parlours and oriental massage joints.

Re a), I can see the point of those who object to extras.

Re b), extras are the norm.  No-one seriously expects to go to a Chinese joint for an hour and get everything for the published price of £45 or whatever; an additional £20/30 for HR, £50/60 for B2B, another £20 maybe for owo, are expected and the norm.
Likewise the cheap parlours (dying out but there are still a handful around, eg, Attercliffe Rd in Sheffield etc) advertise as low as £25 for 15 mins, £40 for 30 mins, but everyone expects there to be some significant addition for a "full" service, the exception maybe being with the superannuated long serving ladies who are keen to get some business at any price.

[JonasG]

The only thing I'd ever pay extra for is DFK - but then I do have a kissing fetish !  I know many think that kissing should be a standard "free" offering, but so few SP's in my experience offer what I deem to be DFK. In fact I may start a thread (I know there have been many before in the subject) on exactly what the definition of DFK is, because so many I've met say they do it, and don't. So, long answer to a short question - I'd willingly pay more for genuine DFK

I see it as if there's tongue used consistently throughout the punt from the WG then it's DFK.

If it's mainly lips but you're kissing throughout the punt still but it's with a bit of tongue then it's LFK.

[LLPunting]

I’ve happily paid £20 extra in many a Chinese rotational on top of the £70 door fee, and I can see that mid-range SPs would want to charge extra for the likes of anal or CIM, but it’s beyond me how £300/£400 plus girls can justify extras, except for possible filming.

If you're talking about flats of Chinese FS girls then they are starting (past 12 months) to scalp like the Thais are in the cancerous wake of the Latina scourge. In the past when owo was +10 and other extras also less and more genuinely justifiable like cim, swallow, A, fetishes it was understandable. But as more and more new entrants arrive asking for 20-30 more per extra, including "fk", 69, ro, fingering, receive rim, and seemingly shit at doing so skillfully or passionately, pretty much the odds of decent quality is odds against, especially from actual young pretties.

The fact that extras are being demanded by 300+ph SPs shows that the London market is well past peak or excellent. The few aging out SP darlings who deliver skillfully have few reported new entrants to keep that banner flying.

[LLPunting]

It seems clear that this question is being answered differently by those who, a) frequent independents, AW etc and b) those who use cheap parlours and oriental massage joints.

Re a), I can see the point of those who object to extras.

Re b), extras are the norm.  No-one seriously expects to go to a Chinese joint for an hour and get everything for the published price of £45 or whatever; an additional £20/30 for HR, £50/60 for B2B, another £20 maybe for owo, are expected and the norm.
Likewise the cheap parlours (dying out but there are still a handful around, eg, Attercliffe Rd in Sheffield etc) advertise as low as £25 for 15 mins, £40 for 30 mins, but everyone expects there to be some significant addition for a "full" service, the exception maybe being with the superannuated long serving ladies who are keen to get some business at any price.

Don't think anyone was really talking about cheap Chinese parlours (or Soho walkups) where no one would be surprised that extras are being charged for more than a basic p&d or tug.  Most then would be "worth it" in that they were offered at all as opposed to delivered with skill or gusto.  The varied reports we have of masseuses and matrons in these joints being skilled at edging or a decent oily tug and prostate prodding suggest that it's evens to odds on you'd get a goodish time from horny/thankful but out of shape and "less pretty" woman of a certain age.

[paul_tall_]

So, hypothetically  if you had 2 girls

Girl 1 was £120 per hour but charged £20 each for DFK and OWO

Girl 2 was £180 per hour hour Inc these services

Both are attractive and stacks of positive reviews. Which one do you choose?

Obviously if reviews matched and you were attracted to both you would go for Girl 1 if you were not bothered about DFK and OWO
I think girls should be clear when messaging what is included and what isnt, its obvious these days that thai providers just offer a basic service and you basically get a templated message of extras . When adding up it tends to match the all inclusive providers anyway though maybe its an area thing

[koshkaj]

Good of you to tell others how to spend (or not spend) their money!
So What is so special about RO to make it “ not to be paid for “ it’s a service like all the others!

The Ops question was “are ( paid)  extras worth it” - which imo is a bit of a pointless question as some will stay yes , some will say no and others will say “well it depends” - which is pretty much what has happened!

i am not telling him how to spend his money. This was just my way of saying that I do not think paying extra for RO is worth it, in answer to "are (paid) extras worth it"

[jamiekinkxxx]

100% prefer escorts with a flat fee structure. Cannot remember if i have ever paid for an extra, I may have but it would be very very rare indeed

[bops909]

I am reasonably convinced that SWs who offer extras for extra money are unlikely to be into it ?

Or is it a Thai thing , are Brazilians more involved with their extras

What do we think ?

There was a Youtube video shared on here recently of a "fixer", who arranged places for girls to work from. He went so far as to show a Brazilian WG's phone number on screen to show the conversation he was having with her, and went into details about how he worked.

His set-up was that he kept a proportion of the base fee from every booking, but the WG kept all the money she made from any extras. He's unlikely to be the only one working like that.

So that might explain why so many touring WGS offer extras. It's a money-maker. Whether they are into it or not is secondary.

From experience, when I'm dealing with WGs through an agent, they don't tend to be all that bothered about what extras I might want. They list them, and that's it. Then they just want to agree a time.

To me, that would support the idea that it's something they don't make any money from.

[MLawro93]

Typically I prefer to just pay the flat fee, but extras are becoming more and more common. Will need to adjust accordingly.

For the argument some make about SPs not enjoying what they charge extra for, I don't agree with. Some just do it to keep the volume down.

[LLPunting]

Typically I prefer to just pay the flat fee, but extras are becoming more and more common. Will need to adjust accordingly.

For the argument some make about SPs not enjoying what they charge extra for, I don't agree with. Some just do it to keep the volume down.

Set prices for extras don't work to keep volume down in a reviewed industry so if the girls truly are trying to control how much they throat, swallow, fk, take in the A with any prized skill then they would have to start surge pricing like Uber.  Some do quote silly extras face to face but that may not be welcomed by the reviewing community if they're not simps, paypigs or into findom.

[MLawro93]

Set prices for extras don't work to keep volume down in a reviewed industry so if the girls truly are trying to control how much they throat, swallow, fk, take in the A with any prized skill then they would have to start surge pricing like Uber.  Some do quote silly extras face to face but that may not be welcomed by the reviewing community if they're not simps, paypigs or into findom.

Don't give them any ideas! 

[Markc]

I happy to pay extra to a SP if the overall price gives me the service l require. I used to see a escort in a local
parlour between 2012 and 2014 where l would pay her £50 for 30 minutes. Half of that fee went to woman who run
the parlour and she get £25. It was for a basic service like a body massage, oral with condom and protected sex.

So the women who worked there charged extras for additional services which they kept the full amount. So the regular
I saw charged an extra £10 each for kissing, OWO, Swallow and £50 extra for anal. So l could pick and choose what services
l wanted and pay for what l had. So sometimes l pay £80 for 30 mins and get a basic service, Kissing, OWO and swallow and other
times pay £100 for a basic service plus anal and have sex first followed by anal and cumming in her ass.

Recently l visited what seamed a legit massage but l had read some women provided extras. So l had a 30 massage for
£50 with a quite fit blonde 40 year woman and while laying on my back she could see my erect cock pushing up the towel.
She removed the towel and asked if she would like her to sort it out. I asked how much and she said £25 for handjob or £50
for a blowjob. I asked if the oral would include CIM she said no she would pull away before l cum and finish by hand. £100
seemed a lot for that service so l went for the handjob. She was really good at it and it wasn’t long until l cum.

[LLPunting]

Don't give them any ideas! 

They've already had them, or their feckin Sergios have, and more.
If I had the skills for one of them digital nomad jobs I'd rebase to the safest punting spots I could find in LatAm and tour there half the year before doing the rounds of the Pacific Rim (fnah!)

[pythondan]

So, hypothetically  if you had 2 girls

Girl 1 was £120 per hour but charged £20 each for DFK and OWO

Girl 2 was £180 per hour hour Inc these services

Both are attractive and stacks of positive reviews. Which one do you choose?

The one with the biggest norks 

Serious answer with all things equal probably the £180 girl. In reality the one I fancy most and who I am most confident of having a good time with. This would be based on UKP reviews, nationality and gut feeling.

[SOSPunter]

I see it as if there's tongue used consistently throughout the punt from the WG then it's DFK.

If it's mainly lips but you're kissing throughout the punt still but it's with a bit of tongue then it's LFK.

Interesting JonasG, and that's where the confusion lies for me because it's not about the frequency of the kissing throughout the punt for me, it's more about the intensity and depth of tongue work in the mouth. Mouth locked on mouth, very deep and slow tongues probing, not gentle flicks of the tongue tip, that's what I call DFK.

[JonasG]

Interesting JonasG, and that's where the confusion lies for me because it's not about the frequency of the kissing throughout the punt for me, it's more about the intensity and depth of tongue work in the mouth. Mouth locked on mouth, very deep and slow tongues probing, not gentle flicks of the tongue tip, that's what I call DFK.

Yeah i would agree with that.

If it's gentle flicks of tongue then it's LFK. As a standard rule.

In terms of frequency, that's more just my enjoyment of it.

If a WG does DFK but it's not constant in the punt, i still think that's a bit shit. And would prefer LFK constantly throughout as opposed to that.

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

I agree with the general consensus the Thai give 100%  and deliver amazing "Extras"  as do some of the "Rotation Chinese" joints...so yes, worth it.

As for Mr U-79's dilemma,  it would be "Girl 1: (subject to, Looks, Chebs and reviews on here... plus saving £20)..

[MaxVerstappen]

I've never paid extras and never will.

+1

[Atlas1957]

Extras are sometimes great value and well worth it, but they are sometimes a huge waste of money, and then plenty of the time they are somewhere in between on the scale.

What type of punting you do will have an impact on the value of extras. Parlours or indies. English vs EE vs South East Asian vs Brazilian. Starting price per half hour, etc.

[raging_bull]

Filming is worth the extra IMO. Only ever been disappointed once and that's cos it was a shit punt so I deleted the footage

[Upsndowns79]

For those still saying I never pay for extras I’m going to restate my scenario but this time the difference is there is only 1 girl.

You’ve seen her AW profile and she ticks all your boxes. You’ve think she’s FAF. You check her reviews and she’s got 50 plus green reviews and every review says her OWO & Kissing is great and enthusiastic.

On her profile she list 2 options for services

Option 1:

Basic Rate Inc Sex, OW, RO, light kissing = £120 with the option to add OWO and DFK for £20 extra each.

Option 2:

All Services Sex but also included rate OWO, DFK, RO = £180

You want to experience her OWO and kissing as it’s an important service to you. Which option do you chose? Same girl, same services.

[deg_dilemma]

Are extras more a thing for the UK than other countries?

Having come back from Barcelona recently, I did a lot of 'window' shopping and the hourly fees were nearly always all-inclusive. And the price was lower at €120 to €150 per hour rising to say €250 for the real special ones. In London we're being charged £150 base for the cheap ones , with extras extortionately priced individually.

As others have said, Filming is probably the only extra I would be happy to pay for. But anything related to the physical act should be part of the fee.

For me the discussion of extras with SPs kills the mood because it makes the whole event transactional rather than sexual or emotional. And it was just a few years ago that you would pay a set flat fee and you would get your full GFE or PSE without negotiating and ruining the mood.