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On 26-27 April, YouGov asked Britons to write down up to five UK “national treasures”.  Here are the scores of those appearing on at least 2% of the respondents’ lists:

David Attenborough: 36%
Judi Dench: 17%
Stephen Fry: 7%
King Charles III: 4%
Kate Middleton: 4%
Prince William: 4%
Joanna Lumley: 4%
Mary Berry: 4%
David Jason: 3%
Helen Mirren: 3%
Ant and Dec: 2%
Ian McKellen: 2%
David Beckham: 2%
Princess Anne: 2%
Miriam Margolyes: 2%
Paul McCartney: 2%
Billy Connolly: 2%
Maggie Smith: 2%

I’ve tended to take the view that many so-called national treasures are in fact national irritations, not least because national treasuredom is sometimes accompanied by a certain smugness.  On the list above, Stephen Fry, Ant and Dec, and David Beckham come into that category – and I find it odd that Fry scores more than three times better than Paul McCartney.

For those more geeky even than me, here’s the full list down to 1%:
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It includes two dead people, Margaret Thatcher and Princess Diana.  Why not Boudicca and Henry VIII?

An unexpected omission is Alan Bennett, usually a by-word for being a bit of a treasure.

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Where are Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips?

You can't leave those two off the list.

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Disappointed Carol Kirk's not there.

Offline Blackpool Rock

On 26-27 April, YouGov asked Britons to write down up to five UK “national treasures”.  Here are the scores of those appearing on at least 2% of the respondents’ lists:

David Attenborough: 36%
Judi Dench: 17%
Stephen Fry: 7%
King Charles III: 4%
Kate Middleton: 4%
Prince William: 4%
Joanna Lumley: 4%
Mary Berry: 4%
David Jason: 3%
Helen Mirren: 3%
Ant and Dec: 2%
Ian McKellen: 2%
David Beckham: 2%
Princess Anne: 2%
Miriam Margolyes: 2%
Paul McCartney: 2%
Billy Connolly: 2%
Maggie Smith: 2%

I’ve tended to take the view that many so-called national treasures are in fact national irritations, not least because national treasuredom is sometimes accompanied by a certain smugness.  On the list above, Stephen Fry, Ant and Dec, and David Beckham come into that category – and I find it odd that Fry scores more than three times better than Paul McCartney.

For those more geeky even than me, here’s the full list down to 1%:
External Link/Members Only

It includes two dead people, Margaret Thatcher and Princess Diana.  Why not Boudicca and Henry VIII?

An unexpected omission is Alan Bennett, usually a by-word for being a bit of a treasure.
You've missed a load out though such as QE2 on 6% and Churchill on 5% is it because they're dead  :unknown:

Plenty on that list that I look at and know many people seem to like but I can't stand, no surprise though that David Attenborough is not only top but way out in front, I momentarily sat and thought who i'd include and his name was the only one I could think of

Something in the list did make me chuckle however as it's not the politics thread I can't say what it was  :D

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There are some very dodgy characters on that list.

I can think of a couple of people that would have been considered national treasures during their lives but now dead are regarded as the devil incarnate.

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Carole Vordermann?
John Cleese?
Liz Sladen?

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Wot nun of the "Page 3 Girls" ??

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Sophie Howard should have been in the top 10.

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People get identified as National Treasues by the media when they slip into their dotage and are no longer capable of doing any good or inflicting any damage, they simply sit there gurning.

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no surprise though that David Attenborough is not only top but way out in front, I momentarily sat and thought who i'd include and his name was the only one I could think of


Yes, he really is quite an extraordinarily popular man. Possibly the only name that nobody would challenge as being deserving of the title?

Offline Blackpool Rock

Yes, he really is quite an extraordinarily popular man. Possibly the only name that nobody would challenge as being deserving of the title?
Yeah doesn't seem to have done anything wrong / no controversy (well that we know of  :rolleyes:), hasn't pissed anyone off, I mean even my Dad seemed to like him and he seemed to hate anyone and everyone else (He did like his brother but then again he was an actor  :D)

Offline Iamforreal

If talking about people who passed away how about Newton, Shakespeare?

Offline Private Parts

If talking about people who passed away how about Newton, Shakespeare?

And sadly now Penelope Keith. RIP funny lady.

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Offline Thephoenix

No Spike Milligan?

I'd also include Ken Dodd, but I'm slightly biased.

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I don't think national treasures are allowed to be dead.

That would make them buried treasure.  A separate category.

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I am no royalist, indeed instinctively more a republican although I am happy with our typical British compromise that makes no sense but kinda works.  However I find myself being surprisingly positive about William and Kate and probably agree with them being on the list, to my own surprise. 

Perhaps it is just in comarison to other Royals that they look good.  :D

His earthshot prize has done some fantastic work and she is quite bonny.

Offline flatcap

List is dominated by actors and royals. Shame there are so few names from the sporting world.

Offline Thephoenix

Sporting legends

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I don't think national treasures are allowed to be dead.

That would make them buried treasure.  A separate category.

Not even Spike Milligan?

He's determined to make a comeback.
Only got 18" to go.

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I’ve tended to take the view that many so-called national treasures are in fact national irritations, not least because national treasuredom is sometimes accompanied by a certain smugness.  On the list above, Stephen Fry, Ant and Dec, and David Beckham come into that category – and I find it odd that Fry scores more than three times better than Paul McCartney.

Long ago David Beckham was just a harmless-enough bloke who was pretty good at hoofing a football about.  OK, for some reason he married a not very talented pop star, but there’s nowt so queer as folk (as we Southerners say). 

But then it became all about relentless self-promotion; endless showing-off; and an unhealthy obsession with making more and more money.

Also, perhaps he’s not as nice as he makes out?  Take this, from a piece by Carol Midgley in yesterday’s Times:
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Did you see David Beckham’s deliciously awkward moment at Wimbledon? Imagine his horror when he took his seat in the Royal Box… and discovered that sitting directly behind him was the opera singer Katherine Jenkins.

Why was it awks? Oh, just that in a series of leaked emails published in 2017 Beckham allegedly questioned why Jenkins had got an OBE, calling it a “fucking joke”.

“Katherine Jenkins OBE for what? Singing at the rugby and going to see the troops, plus taking coke. Fucking joke,” the former footballer reportedly wrote.

It’s unclear why he picked on Jenkins but he did call the honours committee “unappreciative cunts” (allegedly) for not giving him a knighthood.

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Personally, I rather admire people who decline knighthoods.  Over the course of the past 60 years, the list includes Peter O'Toole, David Bowie, L.S. Lowry, Roald Dahl, Stephen Hawking, Albert Finney and David Hockney. 

Quite a few former national treasures there...

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Long ago David Beckham was just a harmless-enough bloke who was pretty good at hoofing a football about.  OK, for some reason he married a not very talented pop star, but there’s nowt so queer as folk (as we Southerners say). 

But then it became all about relentless self-promotion; endless showing-off; and an unhealthy obsession with making more and more money.


I'm wondering if he has body doubles. :unknown:

His smug gob seems to appear on our TV screens anywhere the hoity toity gather in VIP boxes etc.

One day he's in with some suits at the world cup, next day he's on display in the royal box in Wimbletown.

Maybe there's another at home shagging her ladyship.  :unknown:

Offline Blackpool Rock

I'm wondering if he has body doubles. :unknown:

His smug gob seems to appear on our TV screens anywhere the hoity toity gather in VIP boxes etc.

One day he's in with some suits at the world cup, next day he's on display in the royal box in Wimbletown.

Maybe there's another at home shagging her ladyship.  :unknown:
Yeah I thought he was watching the WC one day and tennis the next, to be honest i'd find all that travel really shit and tiring, going on a trip or holiday is OK but all the time surely just gets a real bore  :unknown:

Perhaps he does have body doubles, and I believe he's been known to hide his crown jewels in the Loos on occasions  :rolleyes:

Offline mr.bluesky

Yeah I thought he was watching the WC one day and tennis the next, to be honest i'd find all that travel really shit and tiring, going on a trip or holiday is OK but all the time surely just gets a real bore  :unknown:

Perhaps he does have body doubles, and I believe he's been known to hide his crown jewels in the Loos on occasions  :rolleyes:

To be fair to him he was at Wimbledon because he made a promise to his mother to take her there every year but of course this has now clashed with the World cup. It still hasn't stopped him appearing in every commercial break  advertising Burgers, Crisps, Coca Cola, Lager, Whiskey in fact it would be easier to list products he doesn't advertise .
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