AW feedback system is flawed. It needs a change.

[iq129]

I can’t understand why many escorts insist on punters having AW feedback.

I have AW feedback of 84 with wonderful comments but most if not all is fake feedback. This fake AW feedback is unfair on the lady that is about to see me. Based on this bogus feedback, the lady is expecting her Prince Charming when her door knocks, but to her disappointment the client is nothing like what she has imagined to be.

This leads to a disappointed escort and therefore a below par service. Both the escort and the client suffer because of this misleading AW feedback.

Just because I provide ladies with positive feedback, that doesn’t oblige the lady to return positive feedback even though she doesn’t mean what she says.

The whole AW feedback system is flawed just like eBay feedback was until eBay decided that only buyers can leave negative feedback. AW should follow the standard set by eBay so that only escorts can leave punters with feedback. That would allow escorts to leave negative feedback without worrying about receiving negative feedback in return. That would then result in an accurate assessment of a client.

[daviemac]

I can’t understand why many escorts insist on punters having AW feedback.

 so that only escorts can leave punters with feedback. That would allow escorts to leave negative feedback without worrying about receiving negative feedback in return. That would then result in an accurate assessment of a client.

Who else but escorts are going to leave punters feedback? and why are you concerned about punters having accurate feedback?   

Our concern is punters leaving inaccurate feedback for escorts for fear of a neg in return which gives us a false impression of services provided.

[patelprat]

One thing i will say about AW feedback is that it's not really about the positives (it's hard not to get a positive), but any negatives are usually serious negatives, which is probably what SPs (and punters) care about the most.

It's hard to get a negative there, so they (usually) point to a real issue (not always), especially if more than one negative and so not a one-off.

[iq129]

Who else but escorts are going to leave punters feedback? and why are you concerned about punters having accurate feedback?   

Our concern is punters leaving inaccurate feedback for escorts for fear of a neg in return which gives us a false impression of services provided.

Accurate feedback results in realistic expectations for both the punter and the escort. This avoids disappointing punts.

I hope you will find my answer as logical.

[daviemac]

Accurate feedback results in realistic expectations for both the punter and the escort. This avoids disappointing punts.

I hope you will find my answer as logical.

Why are you concerned about escort's expectations? this is a site for punters, whether or not an escort is disappointed with a punter is irrelevant.

We need punters to stop posting fake positive feedback for escorts.

[iq129]

One thing i will say about AW feedback is that it's not really about the positives (it's hard not to get a positive), but any negatives are usually serious negatives, which is probably what SPs (and punters) care about the most.

It's hard to get a negative there, so they (usually) point to a real issue (not always), especially if more than one and not a one-off.

I am talking about a negative for the punter and not for the escort. By leaving positive feedback for the punter, the escort is being nice to the punter and at the same time is protecting her own reputation. She doesn’t want to lose business by being seen as someone who frequently leaves clients with a negative.

[iq129]

Why are you concerned about escort's expectations? this is a site for punters, whether or not an escort is disappointed with a punter is irrelevant.

We need punters to stop posting fake positive feedback for escorts.

Punters are worried about retaliatory negative feedback. That is why the AW feedback system is flawed. eBay overhauled their feedback system and so should AW.

[Jonestown]

Thousands of people manage to punt successfully, even plucking girls from AW, without getting enmeshed in the AW feedback system, why do you bother getting worked up about it, no one believes a word that is written by either side.

[daviemac]

I am talking about a negative for the punter and not for the escort. By leaving positive feedback for the punter, the escort is being nice to the punter and at the same time is protecting her own reputation. She doesn’t want to lose business by being seen as someone who frequently leaves clients with a negative.

That has nothing to do with us, this is NOT a support service for escorts. Escorts have their own sites where they can discuss any issues they have.

Our only concern is whether or not the AW feedback given by the punter for the escort is accurate.

It would make no difference at all to us if a punter had 100 negative feedbacks from escorts, we aren't booking punters, we are booking escorts.

[big-al93]

I am talking about a negative for the punter and not for the escort. By leaving positive feedback for the punter, the escort is being nice to the punter and at the same time is protecting her own reputation. She doesn’t want to lose business by being seen as someone who frequently leaves clients with a negative.

You've kind of answered your own question there. SP's would not leave negative feedback as they'd come across badly. Nobody takes notice of feedback there anyway, we have here and SP's have CE NUM ect. Which is where real feedback exists. Which is also why some (not all) SP's hate this place.

[iq129]

I have negated my false positive feedback by providing my response. I should have adopted this approach years ago and I might have saved myself from many disappointing punts.

Here is my response to Kasia’s false AW feedback. I hope it sets a precedent so that other punters who are handicapped by ugly looks don’t suffer like me. They should go into a punt with full knowledge that the escort knows what to expect when her door knocks.

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[daviemac]

I have negated my false positive feedback by providing my response.

You need to stop posting on here and get some genuine help or you risk being labelled a troll unless you are actually trolling.

[iq129]

You need to stop posting on here and get some genuine help or you risk being labelled a troll unless you are actually trolling.

OK. No posts from me for a while, unless it is absolutely necessary.

[daviemac]

OK. No posts from me for a while, unless it is absolutely necessary.

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[PilotMan]

Who really gives a shit about AW feedback, it's all utter bollox.

We know that and it's not unrealistic to think that SP's know that too.

[RandomGuy99]

Do you really want them to put the truth in your feedback?

"Short, fat bloke with limited social skills. Took far too long exchanging messages, but eventually he booked me. Turned up 15 minutes early and sent me chasing texts. When he got in he declined a shower and had bad breath, long pubic hair and a smelly arse. Took ages to get hard and fucked about a lot, bad at oral and sex. Really annoying and I was glad when he came and left. There's got to be a better way to make money. On to the next one"

[big-al93]

Do you really want them to put the truth in your feedback?

"Short, fat bloke with limited social skills. Took far too long exchanging messages, but eventually he booked me. Turned up 15 minutes early and sent me chasing texts. When he got in he declined a shower and had bad breath, long pubic hair and a smelly arse. Took ages to get hard and fucked about a lot, bad at oral and sex. Really annoying and I was glad when he came and left. There's got to be a better way to make money. On to the next one"

I knew there was someone in the wardrobe, I didn't realise it was you! 

OP, I don't have a particularly high opinion of myself, but you are something else. Please take DM's advice and find some help, I hope you find it.

[MLawro93]

Feels like you are spiralling a bit OP. Assuming you aren't trolling, please follow through with daviemac's post on the number of resources available.

[Nomerzypuntr]

I have negated my false positive feedback by providing my response. I should have adopted this approach years ago and I might have saved myself from many disappointing punts.

Here is my response to Kasia’s false AW feedback. I hope it sets a precedent so that other punters who are handicapped by ugly looks don’t suffer like me. They should go into a punt with full knowledge that the escort knows what to expect when her door knocks.

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You againnnnnnnn

[Garyhart]

Feels like you are spiralling a bit OP. Assuming you aren't trolling, please follow through with daviemac's post on the number of resources available.

Agreed, this isn’t the place to continuously vent out what sounds like deep rooted self confidence issues. We’re not professionals in this aspect. You’d be better off getting genuine help from a medical professional who can come up with actual well thought through solutions.

[Garyhart]

Who really gives a shit about AW feedback, it's all utter bollox.

We know that and it's not unrealistic to think that SP's know that too.

True, UKP is where punters say the truth about punts (for most parts) and SPs have their own equivalent website / forum where they air out any bad punters.

It’s normal for very badly reviewed SPs on here to have nothing but glowing AW feedback and likewise for punters to have hundreds of splendid AW feedback but also a shit ton of very horrific feedback on the SPs equivalent of this 

Only red flag is when an SP hides her aw feedback.

AW is a scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours type of website when it comes to feedback

[Fuzzyduck]

I have negated my false positive feedback by providing my response. I should have adopted this approach years ago and I might have saved myself from many disappointing punts.

Here is my response to Kasia’s false AW feedback. I hope it sets a precedent so that other punters who are handicapped by ugly looks don’t suffer like me. They should go into a punt with full knowledge that the escort knows what to expect when her door knocks.

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[patelprat]

Maybe AW should wait for both sides to submit feedback and then release them both the same time, so one doesn't influence the other 

[RandomGuy99]

Maybe AW should wait for both sides to submit feedback and then release them both the same time, so one doesn't influence the other 

They have changed the feedback system so that you submit feedback and it looks like an admin reviews or the SP review it and if they're happy with it then they can accept the feedback and then it appears on the SP's profile.

[Paul9144]

They have changed the feedback system so that you submit feedback and it looks like an admin reviews or the SP review it and if they're happy with it then they can accept the feedback and then it appears on the SP's profile.

The AW moderators simply review the rating feedback both ways prior to allowing for it to be published.

The reason most likely being is to look for any derogatory language or personally sensitive information in line with GDPR.

I however don't believe that the SP or the SS have any influence in that process once the feedback has been submitted both ways.

The AW moderators will email both the SP and the SS each way to say if the rating feedback has been accepted or not each side.

[patelprat]

They have changed the feedback system so that you submit feedback and it looks like an admin reviews or the SP review it and if they're happy with it then they can accept the feedback and then it appears on the SP's profile.

I know, they've been doing that for a while now (although not sure why they can't train AI to do it much faster), I was just suggesting to only release once the other side is in and approved too, so both sides SP and SS see their feedback at the same time.

[Blackpool Rock]

Punters are worried about retaliatory negative feedback. That is why the AW feedback system is flawed. eBay overhauled their feedback system and so should AW.

But you previously said that ebay changed their so that only the buyer can leave Negative feedback, in this instance we "The punters" are the buyers yet you advocate for the seller to be able to leave us bad feedback but not vice versa 

[Blackpool Rock]

I have negated my false positive feedback by providing my response. I should have adopted this approach years ago and I might have saved myself from many disappointing punts.

Here is my response to Kasia’s false AW feedback. I hope it sets a precedent so that other punters who are handicapped by ugly looks don’t suffer like me. They should go into a punt with full knowledge that the escort knows what to expect when her door knocks.

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WTF 
Mate perhaps you should have just left that comment in your original feedback for the girl in which case it should logically have been a Negative 
Surely then you are actually guilty of having been dishonest in the feedback you left   

In a nutshell nobody or certainly nobody on here pays anything more than lip service to AW feedback, it is sometimes useful to establish that a girl is real / exists and does in fact escort rather than just being a cammer etc but it's often only established by checking who else has given her feedback and whether they in turn have feedback from well known reputable escorts, then you know it's probably genuine.

Often the "Feedback only" comments are more worthwhile

[RandomGuy99]

WTF 
Mate perhaps you should have just left that comment in your original feedback for the girl in which case it should logically have been a Negative 
Surely then you are actually guilty of having been dishonest in the feedback you left   

In a nutshell nobody or certainly nobody on here pays anything more than lip service to AW feedback, it is sometimes useful to establish that a girl is real / exists and does in fact escort rather than just being a cammer etc but it's often only established by checking who else has given her feedback and whether they in turn have feedback from well known reputable escorts, then you know it's probably genuine. The new AW members were possibly leaving positives.because they didn't know what a good booking looks like or they didn't want to leave a negative in case she left a negative for them.

Often the "Feedback only" comments are more worthwhile

Yes, last week I was watching the positive feedback land on an SP's profile from relatively new AW members. She sounded good. I had a look at her feedback on here from previous bookings and she was getting negatives and neutrals at best, so although I was sorely tempted to give her a go, I decided not to and saved my money for someone else.

[DastardlyDick]

Who else but escorts are going to leave punters feedback? and why are you concerned about punters having accurate feedback?   

I suppose if you think of AW feedback from SPs being a public version of the various "ugly mug" databases only SPs have access to, then having negative feedback as a punter could limit your choices of SP in the future. You can see why we, as punters,  might get worried about it
I have no issue with it, but I don't do AW feedback.

[daviemac]

I suppose if you think of AW feedback from SPs being a public version of the various "ugly mug" databases only SPs have access to, then having negative feedback as a punter could limit your choices of SP in the future. You can see why we, as punters,  might get worried about it
I have no issue with it, but I don't do AW feedback.

The OP is concerned that escorts aren't leaving punters accurate negative feedback, he wants them to leave him negative feedback when in fact it should be the other way round, punters should be able to leave negs without retaliation.

I have negated my false positive feedback by providing my response. I should have adopted this approach years ago and I might have saved myself from many disappointing punts.

Here is my response to Kasia’s false AW feedback. I hope it sets a precedent so that other punters who are handicapped by ugly looks don’t suffer like me. They should go into a punt with full knowledge that the escort knows what to expect when her door knocks.

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Punters leave false positives for fear of getting a negative in return because negative feedback affects who they can book.

[flatcap]

OP: you suggest the feedback from the SP should have read "You found me extremely ugly and we're not interested".

Our role as punters is to :
1. Turn up on time
2. Pay the agreed fee for the services that we request
3. Be clean and hygienic
4. Be polite and friendly
5. Be respectful of the SP's boundaries
6. Leave on time
7. Be discreet when needed

If you are all of those things then the SP would be justified in leaving a positive. Its irrelevant if you're ugly, or fat, or hairy, or bald, or old, or a bit socially awkward, or nervous, or if you take a while to get hard, or have a small cock, or cum quickly, or are useless at oral.  The SP is reviewing you as a punter, not as potential boyfriend material.

In this case she described you as a "perfect gentleman" , so it sounds like the SP thought that you satisfied most or all of those points and deserved the positive feedback. She took the time to give you a positive review, I'd try to reflect on that and focus less on what you see as your bad points.

[OakTree]

One of the strangest threads I’ve seen.

I could understand it if it was from a relatively new punter but this guy is by his numerous reviews quite experienced. You’d think he’d know the score.

It’s business.

[MLawro93]

One of the strangest threads I’ve seen.

I could understand it if it was from a relatively new punter but this guy is by his numerous reviews quite experienced. You’d think he’d know the score.

It’s business.

I genuinely believe he is a troll at this point. Some people are just weird, no understanding why they post what they do.

[Garyhart]

I genuinely believe he is a troll at this point. Some people are just weird, no understanding why they post what they do.

I don’t think he’s trolling unfortunately. He’s responded to other SPs on AW, confused at their positive feedback on him.

As flatcap said, what constitutes a positive for an SP on AW isn’t your looks or dick size. Don’t let random punters fool you into thinking the sp saw them as the next leonardo di caprio, they’re paid quasi actresses for the duration of your booking. It’s all about hygiene, turning up on time and being respectful.

From your reviews IQ, you don’t seem to have done anything wrong with the Sps so stop beating yourself up about these things. If you was a bad punter, you’d have a shit ton of bad reports on platforms that aren’t AW, which I’m sure you don’t.

[iq129]

I don’t think he’s trolling unfortunately. He’s responded to other SPs on AW, confused at their positive feedback on him.

As flatcap said, what constitutes a positive for an SP on AW isn’t your looks or dick size. Don’t let random punters fool you into thinking the sp saw them as the next leonardo di caprio, they’re paid quasi actresses for the duration of your booking. It’s all about hygiene, turning up on time and being respectful.

From your reviews IQ, you don’t seem to have done anything wrong with the Sps so stop beating yourself up about these things. If you was a bad punter, you’d have a shit ton of bad reports on platforms that aren’t AW, which I’m sure you don’t.

Gary sir, I was very depressed. Even suicidal until I read your post. Thanks for cheering me up. The world needs good people like you.

[Doc Holliday]

Gary sir, I was very depressed. Even suicidal until I read your post. Thanks for cheering me up. The world needs good people like you.

Really? Oh please. I was quite sympathetic before, but now I think you are just full of attention seeking shite.

[Nomerzypuntr]

OP: you suggest the feedback from the SP should have read "You found me extremely ugly and we're not interested".

Our role as punters is to :
1. Turn up on time
2. Pay the agreed fee for the services that we request
3. Be clean and hygienic
4. Be polite and friendly
5. Be respectful of the SP's boundaries
6. Leave on time
7. Be discreet when needed

If you are all of those things then the SP would be justified in leaving a positive. Its irrelevant if you're ugly, or fat, or hairy, or bald, or old, or a bit socially awkward, or nervous, or if you take a while to get hard, or have a small cock, or cum quickly, or are useless at oral.  The SP is reviewing you as a punter, not as potential boyfriend material.

In this case she described you as a "perfect gentleman" , so it sounds like the SP thought that you satisfied most or all of those points and deserved the positive feedback. She took the time to give you a positive review, I'd try to reflect on that and focus less on what you see as your bad points.

Iq see this..

[boardyhell]

I am definitely in older bracket, your senior by a good few years and well past my best and don't always get the same service as a young fit bloke but do you have to go on about it
you need professional help
stop pitying yourself and take up a hobby which you enjoy,
why don't you just see the girls who give you the best feelings than set yourself for another headache

[daviemac]

well past my best and don't always get the same service as a young fit bloke

How do you know?   

[boardyhell]

I haven't have dfk from girls who are renowned for it ,these days I go with the flow and not that bothered
I wouldn't want to kiss me,having said that I have had some amazing times
you have to have realistic expectations
never had a girl look at me with bad feelings
maybe iq129 should visit ladies who make him happy as I do

[daviemac]

I haven't have dfk from girls who are renowned for it ,these days I go with the flow and not that bothered
I wouldn't want to kiss me,having said that I have had some amazing times
you have to have realistic expectations
never had a girl look at me with bad feelings
maybe iq129 should visit ladies who make him happy as I do

Like iq129 maybe you are giving off negative or the wrong vibes and the escorts 'go with the flow' to match that.

The only expectation you should have is that you get the service you paid for.