What am I doing wrong…no responses?

[jseop109]

Interesting. All I can say is that my usual routine is to send a text the day before, with just a suggested time and duration (plus a request for a postcode if she is available), then confirm by text on the morning of the punt.

I have rarely had any problem, but maybe I've just been lucky.

[msosvr]

Well, I woke up at 9, got started messaging a few and immediately got a hit from the rather lovely Lil Miss Peachy External Link/Members Only. Couple of messages back and forth and 45 mins later I am at her place having a very nice time. So I guess my learning from this is to try advanced bookings, but be open to seeing what happens on the day in a worst case situation.

Field report pending. Thx chaps.

[daviemac]

Well, I woke up at 9, got started messaging a few and immediately got a hit from the rather lovely Lil Miss Peachy External Link/Members Only. Couple of messages back and forth and 45 mins later I am at her place having a very nice time. So I guess my learning from this is to try advanced bookings, but be open to seeing what happens on the day in a worst case situation.

Field report pending. Thx chaps.

You've just posted a link to a map showing who's available mate.

BTW the 'm.adultwork' links don't work with the indexing system that links reviews on here. You need to use the link from the desktop version.

 External Link/Members Only    External Link/Members Only

[msosvr]

Well aren't I a plumb!  - External Link/Members Only

[GoodLookinGuy]

Hello, I haven't read thw whole thread so appologies if someone else has suggested it, but you may have found yourself on some kind of escorts blacklist. Did you have a falling out with anyone ?

[msosvr]

No - never even spoken to any. Think I was just not approaching it the right way.

[Jonestown]

Sometimes I wonder if this hobby wasn’t easier before we had all this tech, when it was analogue rather than digital.

[daviemac]

Well aren't I a plumb!  - External Link/Members Only

Mate, the m.adultwork.com link doesn't work with the indexing system on here you need to use the link from the desktop version. -  External Link/Members Only

[snoopy]

OK... So I have sent out a request to several providers and got no reply...

1 Some have not logged in since.
2 Some have logged in but not read my mail.
3 Some have read it but ignored it.

I can understand 1 and 3 but what about 2?
Are SPs just overwhelmed with emails, do they just respond to the first plausible-looking one?

[puntmiester]

OK... So I have sent out a request to several providers and got no reply...

1 Some have not logged in since.
2 Some have logged in but not read my mail.
3 Some have read it but ignored it.

I can understand 1 and 3 but what about 2?
Are SPs just overwhelmed with emails, do they just respond to the first plausible-looking one?

Sounds like you used AW’s messaging service ? I don’t think people use this unless the profile specifically tells people to use it .

Paste the links to the profiles and we’ll tell you where you’re going wrong

[Strawberry]

OK... So I have sent out a request to several providers and got no reply...

1 Some have not logged in since.
2 Some have logged in but not read my mail.
3 Some have read it but ignored it.

I can understand 1 and 3 but what about 2?
Are SPs just overwhelmed with emails, do they just respond to the first plausible-looking one?

Do you mean a booking request form, or do you mean an AW email, or do you mean an AW paid message?

[PilotMan]

OK... So I have sent out a request to several providers and got no reply...

1 Some have not logged in since.
2 Some have logged in but not read my mail.
3 Some have read it but ignored it.

I can understand 1 and 3 but what about 2?
Are SPs just overwhelmed with emails, do they just respond to the first plausible-looking one?

As is apparent, you're wasting your time sending AW messages - use that if it is the only way to contact the SP (i.e. she has no number displayed, ever).

The exception is the very few, well organised and highly sought after SP's, who get booked weeks in advance.

Other than that, SP's get so many messages on all the various platforms, whether you're plausible or not, you are just a nuisance.

Put your big boy pants on, pick up the phone and call 

[RandomGuy99]

As is apparent, you're wasting your time sending AW messages - use that if it is the only way to contact the SP (i.e. she has no number displayed, ever).

The exception is the very few, well organised and highly sought after SP's, who get booked weeks in advance.

Other than that, SP's get so many messages on all the various platforms, whether you're plausible or not, you are just a nuisance.

Put your big boy pants on, pick up the phone and call 

Except quite a few don't do phone calls.

[PilotMan]

Except quite a few don't do phone calls.

I thought I covered that?

As is apparent, you're wasting your time sending AW messages - use that if it is the only way to contact the SP (i.e. she has no number displayed, ever).

[snoopy]

As is apparent, you're wasting your time sending AW messages - use that if it is the only way to contact the SP (i.e. she has no number displayed, ever).

The exception is the very few, well organised and highly sought after SP's, who get booked weeks in advance.

Other than that, SP's get so many messages on all the various platforms, whether you're plausible or not, you are just a nuisance.

Put your big boy pants on, pick up the phone and call 

Think you have it there Pilotman. Some do respond to my AW emails but not many. I suppose it is a good filter to get someone who is organised.

[snoopy]

Sounds like you used AW’s messaging service ? I don’t think people use this unless the profile specifically tells people to use it .

Paste the links to the profiles and we’ll tell you where you’re going wrong

I'm using the email service.
Here's a couple of examples:
External Link/Members Only
External Link/Members Only

[puntmiester]

Think you have it there Pilotman. Some do respond to my AW emails but not many. I suppose it is a good filter to get someone who is organised.

Not really ,
I asked you to show an example of a profile for this reason, so I get help wrap your head around it.
AW is treated as marketing . Less and less is it used as the primary booking platform .
Girls advertise on several different websites more and more and are turning on their green light in AW  less as it actually costs money to do this.

[puntmiester]

I'm using the email service.
Here's a couple of examples:
External Link/Members Only
External Link/Members Only

If you search 6130847 on here, you can see other reviews .
It looks like she rarely displays her number .
Maybe it means she doesn’t do an assembly line of fucks a day or has too many regulars and you do in fact need to be patient and send her AW message and wait .
Sometimes if the price and service is good , the balls in her court and you have to be patient .

Remember every working girl is different and they’ll prioritise different things . Some will charge a lot or like to have back to back bookings and just make as much money as possible and some would rather fuck the same regulars at a lower price.

Some like clients that book days in advance and some think they may just flake and only do on the day bookings . Some probably had bad experience with last minute evening punters as they’re often drunk.

Some have an agency doing their messaging so sound organised . But some do it all themselves

It doesn’t necessarily reflect their organisation

You just need to read between the lines so you don’t waste too much time

[snoopy]

Not really ,
I asked you to show an example of a profile for this reason, so I get help wrap your head around it.
AW is treated as marketing . Less and less is it used as the primary booking platform .
Girls advertise on several different websites more and more and are turning on their green light in AW  less as it actually costs money to do this.

OK... so what is the best primary booking platform?

[RandomGuy99]

OK... so what is the best primary booking platform?

Read the SP's AW profile and use the method they have indicated is their preferred means of contact.

[myothernameis]

I’ve been trying to arrange my first punt for 2 weeks and am struggling to get any responses to my messages.

Wonder how the op getting on, did he manage to get a booking, and will we hear back 

[puntmiester]

OK... so what is the best primary booking platform?

Dude , try to understand , there is no primary booking platform .
This isn’t the optician.
This thread now has enough information . If you can’t figure it out you may be a bit too dopey for this .

[snoopy]

Dude , try to understand , there is no primary booking platform .
This isn’t the optician.
This thread now has enough information . If you can’t figure it out you may be a bit too dopey for this .

I can't be arsed to reply to stupid comments like this

[koshkaj]

OK... so what is the best primary booking platform?

Read the SP profile. If she has not specified to contact her via AW email and her number is not showing, consider her as unavailable. She'll put her number up when she is ready. In the meantime, look for another SP who has her number showing.

[PilotMan]

Maybe it means she doesn’t do an assembly line of fucks a day or has too many regulars and you do in fact need to be patient and send her AW message and wait .
Sometimes if the price and service is good , the balls in her court and you have to be patient .

Wait, wait, wait, be patient, seriously?

It ain't some sort of strategic game where you're trying to book some elusive world renowned super star.

When you want to fuck, you want to fuck - simple.

Said SP is displaying an advert, you contact her for a booking. She doesn't respond in a reasonable time frame, just jog on to the next one.

[PilotMan]

I can't be arsed to reply to stupid comments like this

I agree. Unnecessary and unhelpful.

[RandomGuy99]

Wait, wait, wait, be patient, seriously?

It ain't some sort of strategic game where you're trying to book some elusive world renowned super star.

When you want to fuck, you want to fuck - simple.

Said SP is displaying an advert, you contact her for a booking. She doesn't respond in a reasonable time frame, just jog on to the next one.

Some choice SPs are worth being patient for. Sometimes they have other stuff happening in their lives and haven't checked their messages for a few days. I don't really do on the day bookings.

[snoopy]

Do you mean a booking request form, or do you mean an AW email, or do you mean an AW paid message?

Sorry Strawberry, just saw your reply... I am using the AW email service.

[Hurley]

thanks for all the responses. My account on AW is brand new so I have no ratings etc and I guess I will avoid the direct messaging system.

This is what I am putting in my message:
"Hi,
Hope you’re well. I’m looking for some relaxed company this weekend, ideally morning or afternoon on Sat or Sun (though I’m fairly flexible and could do late evening).
I’m 40, trim, very good hygiene, respectful and easy-going. I have cash ready in hand. Could you let me know if you’re available for 60 minutes? Also interested in any costs for extras."

I guess maybe I just need to start calling directly rather than using any form of message. I did find that quite a few of the mobile phone numbers for the SP's does not work at all. I just get message not sent warning, or number does not exist in whatsapp.  Is that normal? I did try sending message from my punting phone to my personal one and was getting message back and forth just fine?

I guess this is just a numbers game! Is booking in advance recommended - I would assume so?

To flowery you don’t need to tell them your age or body shape.

[Thephoenix]

To flowery you don’t need to tell them your age or body shape.

I don't think it does any harm. '40' & 'trim' doesn't take much room, and may be of interest to the SP .
Having said that I'd tend to use 40s rather than specific age.

In some cases I think it's courteous to give the lady your age, as in my case to mention that I'm in my 80s, just in case she's not trained in CPR.   

However I agree the rest is too flowery.

[JonasG]

To flowery you don’t need to tell them your age or body shape.

Yeah, your initial comms needs to be as simple as possible.

Unless their profile specifically asks you to state your age and ethnicity, or some other detail don't bother.

It's like in any job, people who send me long drawn out emails at work full of waffle will get replied to much later than someone who's conscise and straight to point. Same goes for escorts.

Just say hello whatever her name is and if you're available at this time for this duration. If not, let me know of your availability on this day/time frame. That's it done.

That goes for AW emails and texts.

[Strawberry]

I don't think it does any harm. '40' & 'trim' doesn't take much room, and may be of interest to the SP .
Having said that I'd tend to use 40s rather than specific age.

In some cases I think it's courteous to give the lady your age, as in my case to mention that I'm in my 80s, just in case she's not trained in CPR.   

However I agree the rest is too flowery.

It is not uncommon for a punter to include age, shape, sometimes nationality or race. For me it's not of interest and I am not sure if some think 'white, 40s, fit, professional' will gain them some favours. For me this information is not of any consequence apart from if or when planning equipment to fit for say a kink or BDSM session, then I will also need relevant medical and physical information.

[GreyDave]

It is not uncommon for a punter to include age, shape, sometimes nationality or race. For me it's not of interest and I am not sure if some think 'white, 40s, fit, professional' will gain them some favours. For me this information is not of any consequence apart from if or when planning equipment to fit for say a kink or BDSM session, then I will also need relevant medical and physical information.

  I give age height weight colour shape what I am wearing ( and willy size to avoid disapointment.  ) ..

Ive  turned up and rung for exact adresss and be told to walk so they can see me Ive been refused several times at last min due to Age and Size weight and recently when in the room with a Chinese girl refused several postions and she held on to me to prevent full penetration complaning in good English... English men too Big! (    I wish I was ) I have been ghost when turning up and ringing from said spot outside particlar shop ect I am pretty sure I get looked at then refused as I am Grey and balding with a pot belly    ...Good to hear there are some ladies out there who dont descriminate. but it happens frequently to myself and when Ive chatted at parties in past its an accepted expectation  just part of the scene 

[PilotMan]

I am not sure if some think 'white, 40s, fit, professional' will gain them some favours.

You mean to say I've wasted thousands on pointless texts   

[Paul9144]

It is not uncommon for a punter to include age, shape, sometimes nationality or race. For me it's not of interest and I am not sure if some think 'white, 40s, fit, professional' will gain them some favours. For me this information is not of any consequence apart from if or when planning equipment to fit for say a kink or BDSM session, then I will also need relevant medical and physical information.

I tend to stick to the format of what an SP has specifically asked for when I reach out as per the below extracted example.

It shows that you've read the SP's profile which appears to go a long way with them, thus you can't really go wrong in doing so.

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[Doc Holliday]

You mean to say I've wasted thousands on pointless texts   

   Yes ... including mentioning being a pilot 

[Strawberry]

I tend to stick to the format of what an SP has specifically asked for when I reach out as per the below extracted example.

It shows that you've read the SP's profile which appears to go a long way with them, thus you can't really go wrong in doing so.

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Certainly does, it's very refreshing when someone does this.

I am aware some punters like to use the scattergun effect, so I wonder if that's where some of the generic and over done enquiries come from?

Of course there's the added problem of AW restricting profile details to age verified members only.

[advent2016]

I’ve been trying to arrange my first punt for 2 weeks and am struggling to get any responses to my messages.

Maybe you are on some list
Are you using a normal 07 type phone?

I've had a few successful encounters with SPs, but few through AW messages.
Mostly I phone, text or WA a number. If I get voicemail I state some basics about me "White, old, average cock size and what service I would like", in person similar but don't mention the tiny cock, but a lot of SPs have said "Thank god, you've got an average sized pecker as I'm sore from a lot of donkey cocks - fine for BF, not for punters"

I get a lot of responses from VA and AW. I have a few regs on AW and they are quite responsive.

Today I called 5 VS numbers in one area and often they end up at the same phone, but I now have a firm booking and a plan B (call 30 mins before coming to post code)

Expect review soon

[GreyDave]

Today I called 5 VS numbers in one area and often they end up at the same phone, but I now have a firm booking and a plan B (call 30 mins before coming to post code)

  Been there done that last week wasted time VS is as you said 7 numbers for one WG 

I leave you with the old saying ......" It aint a firm booking till youre firmly inside! " 

[Thephoenix]

It is not uncommon for a punter to include age, shape, sometimes nationality or race. For me it's not of interest and I am not sure if some think 'white, 40s, fit, professional' will gain them some favours. For me this information is not of any consequence apart from if or when planning equipment to fit for say a kink or BDSM session, then I will also need relevant medical and physical information.

Don't I even need to check if you're CPR trained, have a defibrillator and are competent with the use of jump leads?

I know some ladies specify an upper age limit, but if not I would usually at least say I'm in my mid 80s to avoid some of the looks of surprise, bemusement, shock or admiration I get on arrival.

[Strawberry]

Don't I even need to check if you're CPR trained, have a defibrillator and are competent with the use of jump leads?

I know some ladies specify an upper age limit, but if not I would usually at least say I'm in my mid 80s to avoid some of the looks of surprise, bemusement, shock or admiration I get on arrival.

I have quite a few late 70s, into 80s clients. My First Aid certificate isn't up-to-date but did cover CPR. I don't have a defibrillator.

Of the two clients who have been ill during a booking one was in his 30s, the other mid-60s.

I discovered recently however some people don't even know how to take a pulse.

From your post I guess I shall look up the risk of heart attack in octogenarians, but provided they are confident in my abilities I doubt I'll be suddenly bringing in a top age limit.

Of course independents work differently, have different requirements. My profile states my age range limits which are difficult to exceed legally.

[Paul9144]

Certainly does, it's very refreshing when someone does this.

I am aware some punters like to use the scattergun effect, so I wonder if that's where some of the generic and over done enquiries come from?

Of course there's the added problem of AW restricting profile details to age verified members only.

Morning Strawberry,

In regards to the booking etiquette of other punters. I can only go by what I do and advise the best COA to support others/our members when booking in line with the thread subject, which for me as aforementioned is to go by each SP's requested format.

To answer your point on AW restricting profile details in line with the OSA - Yes, I'm cognizant of various concerns raised by SP's and punters alike. As I touched on it here (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=453418.msg4462516#msg4462516).

I believe the only way to get around this is for SS's to create an (SS) AW profile and go through AW's verification process.

It appears even when using VPN's (no matter which country it is set to) it otherwise doesn't appear to make any difference at all.

[Thephoenix]

I have quite a few late 70s, into 80s clients. My First Aid certificate isn't up-to-date but did cover CPR. I don't have a defibrillator.

Of the two clients who have been ill during a booking one was in his 30s, the other mid-60s.

I discovered recently however some people don't even know how to take a pulse.

From your post I guess I shall look up the risk of heart attack in octogenarians, but provided they are confident in my abilities I doubt I'll be suddenly bringing in a top age limit.

Of course independents work differently, have different requirements. My profile states my age range limits which are difficult to exceed legally.

Thanks for your reply.

I hope you realise I was being a tad frivolous,  however I  guess it would be prudent for SPs or parlours to give some thought to how they'd deal with emergencies. 

Ps.... I wonder if there are statistics available on the number of punters who've died on the job so to speak.

[Strawberry]

Thanks for your reply.

I hope you realise I was being a tad frivolous,  however I  guess it would be prudent for SPs or parlours to give some thought to how they'd deal with emergencies. 

Ps.... I wonder if there are statistics available on the number of punters who've died on the job so to speak.

I've had 2 sudden deaths I know of resulting in no shows, one a man in his 40s. Another client I know of died even younger. I am not afraid of older clients becoming ill or dying but I suspect they are much more likely to die at home, in hospital, in an accident or the other hundreds and thousands of hours they are not in a booking with me or any other SP.

I could be wrong but the fraction of life spent in bookings, is likely to be small compared to the remainder of their lives.

[RandomGuy99]

I've had 2 sudden deaths I know of resulting in no shows, one a man in his 40s. Another client I know of died even younger. I am not afraid of older clients becoming ill or dying but I suspect they are much more likely to die at home, in hospital, in an accident or the other hundreds and thousands of hours they are not in a booking with me or any other SP.

I could be wrong but the fraction of life spent in bookings, is likely to be small compared to the remainder of their lives.

Just keep a 12V battery and some jump leads by the side of the bed and you should be fine

[Thephoenix]

Just keep a 12V battery and some jump leads by the side of the bed and you should be fine

I carry mine with me. 

[Strawberry]

Just keep a 12V battery and some jump leads by the side of the bed and you should be fine

Will an e-stim machine have the same effect?Uses mains power or a 9V battery. I also have a Taboom Prick Stick electric shock wand.

[RandomGuy99]

Will an e-stim machine have the same effect?Uses mains power or a 9V battery. I also have a Taboom Prick Stick electric shock wand.

I'm not sure. Try sticking it up the SS' bum and put it on full power. What could possibly go wrong?

The jump leads are easier as you can clamp them on the SS' nipples.

[Strawberry]

I'm not sure. Try sticking it up the SS' bum and put it on full power. What could possibly go wrong?

The jump leads are easier as you can clamp them on the SS' nipples.

E-stim is contraindicated for anyone with heart problems, and or above the waist line although some people do use e-stim nipple clamps and even shock collars.

I will keep it in the cupboard unless requested.

[GreyDave]

  Good to hear some ladies know about First Aid.

I had a scare a few years ago at a Soho Walk (Mixing Sil and Tad) the Maid and girl couldnt of cared less or got me out of hallway quicker , thankfully I bumped in to an Americana Tourist punt who Id passed afew times earlier in day and he took me for a coffe and stayed with me asking if i was ok ....Becarefull out there, as they used to say in Hill St Blues