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Offline FunTimesYesPlease

Wasn't great experience for me

A did a very detailed itemised trip across China.

Started with Beijing only tried a bit there as was jet lagged. Nothing I could find really with prostitution as I understand it being illegal in China, swiped on Tinder but no hits.

Nothing while travelling through Guyan and Xian, not many connections in range on Tinder so again not many hits.  Read on here that you can get extras in massage places so got a full body massage in Xian but nothing was offered.

Last stop was Shanghai, nothing really around when looking.  Went to the hotel massage but it seemed above board and not a great looking masseuse so didn't go further. 

I tried the links posted by Contrapuntist (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=425291.msg4237410#msg4237410) They didn't seem to work, kept asking for a username and password with no way of registering.  (I now know from reading his updated post today that you need to do it before you go or use a VPN.)

So I went on Tinder and started to get white a few matches quickly to my surprise with decent looking profiles.  First I thought this is strange don't normally get so much in China and so quickly, then thought happy days.  Tried to line some up and was quite straight forward, looking for fun etc as only here 3 days no point wasting time.  First day tried to keep the conversation going with the few that connected, one girl I had a bit of rapport with who was after something long term says to me you're looking for trouble.  I said what do you mean.  She said on this platform looking for what you're looking for.  I thought strange because she's on the same platform.

Anyway carried on but couple wanted me to come to their apartment and weren't keen coming to my hotel. I said same thing just come here and they wouldn't have it.  No way I was going to a random apartment in random part of Shanghai.

Also you had quite a few who just wanted to be treated, dinner, drinks etc. Which might be fine if you have the time, get some company while having a meal etc Conversation might not be engaging as very few speak English or English is more basic so will have to use the translator quite a bit and may or may not get something in the end.  Honestly I think it is just a way of getting pampered and likely giving you nothing back, as they wanted a date dinner, drinks, partying etc

Anyway I then got 2 who said that I could meet them in the lobby of their aparthotel as they are there working etc get couple of drinks and if we hit it off could be something more and we could move upstairs.  I though this sounds much better so I said ok.  This was at 12am and I was trying to choose between the 2 and work out their chinese addresses and how far they are etc which was taking me a short while.  Then one of the girls said I’ll send you a taxi.  I was like she’s keen, yes let’s do it.  She was asking me my hotel details and room number for taxi in conversation but I don’t know why I told her the holiday inn 7 mins down the road and gave her no room number and told her i’m just getting a bit to eat and told her to send the taxi to the eatery 2 doors down.  It was a Bar and Grill.  She questioned me a couple of times and claimed she couldn’t find the bar to send tax etc which took another 15 mins.  I sent her a web link to the bar. The other one was messaging me so I told her give me 30 mins , I figured taxi will be here and I can be there and assess the situation if odd I can leave and go to her.  Anyway I’m obviously thinking with my pants.

Taxi arrives and I get in and start driving to her location and then I start thinking what am I doing as this drive is taking a bit long or maybe it’s my spidey senses kicking in.  Taxi driver doesn’t speak English and I couldn't question him when i tried. Then I thought let me check on the other girl in Tinder, and i’ve been signed out.  I’m thinking how did that happen ?  It’s asking me to sign in again but I can’t as I don’t have my UK sim to verify my account.  I thought this is very odd how is that possible, so now i’m locked out of Tinder so no way for backup option etc or to contact the one i’m meeting (Later i’m thinking is there a way the girl did this by reporting account etc). 

Anyway I arrive at the hotel and the girl is sitting in the lobby all ready and walks out towards me so I know it is her.  She looks like the pics i saw but older and they have a habit of airbrushing pics with apps in Asia.  So i figured it’s kind of ok so far, I hug her.  She makes a comment about my shirt and says ‘Tommy nice’ i thought odd  and she grabs my hand and starts walking me to a bar.  I said I thought we were doing your hotel lobby bar, she said it closed now.  It was 1 am now and I thought maybe it is now.

Anyway she knows where she is going and we walk about 5 mins to what looks like a bar.  It is black and we walk in past a guy at the door.  I take a quick look and there is about 3 partitioned cubicles /  tables at the front and she is trying to take me upstairs to a closed room with a door.  I’m like what is going on here so I said can we just sit on the front ones here.  So she said ok and took me to the one in the corner next to the wall.  It’s kind of clear she’s been to this place before.  We do small talk and she confirms my hotel again I said Holiday inn at Nanjing do you know it ?  She said yes 4 star my one is 3 star.  She messages someone on her chat app which I noticed. 

A girl comes to take the order and she starts ordering in chinese, I told her i’ll just have a coke and you can get what you want to drink.  Anyway I noticed her look at my expensive watch and she did this at least twice quite visibly.  The order arrives and I noticed she has ordered 2 drinks for her (Glasses of Wine) and my coke as well as a large fruit bowl.  I’m thinking it would of been normal to ask me if she can order food and what else might be coming.  Then she asks me am I not wearing any jewellery ?  which I thought was odd, maybe one of my Tinder pics had some jewellery on.  I said No didn’t bring any,  conversation is limited as she is chinese and then she messages again on her chat app.  I thought this isn’t adding up and I’m not sure I like this.  I said i’m going to go out and make a quick phone call. 

She got up with me and said why, we are enjoying ourselves.  I said it’s ok I just need to make a quick phone call and i’ll be back 2 mins.  She doesn’t want me to go, I start walking out the partitioned cubicle and startle the serving girl.  As luck would have it the guy at the door (security ?) was behind the counter getting something at that exact moment.  My adrenaline kicked in and I just quickly walked outside with the girl following me and making a scene.  I said go back in and I will be in give me 2 mins.  She started to say no you won’t I know what you are doing, you are calling a taxi.  She said you have to pay for all of this and the security guy comes out and starts looking around.  She is telling him in chinese to help i think but for some reason he is either looking around for support or not keen as i’m outside.

The girl starts saying she is going to follow me and that she knows where i’m staying - hotel Holiday Inn and everything.  I said that is fine. The girl pops inside as her bag and phone and everything is in there, I start walking the girl is cursing me ‘ you will die a horrible death etc’.  I notice a guy who starts walking behind me on the phone.  I also saw a second guy on the otherside. So I started running and cross the road and see him pick up pace.  I must of run maybe only 6 mins and saw 2 guys in yellow high vis across the road standing against a car.  I cross the road to be with them and as luck turns out they are traffic police ticketing a guy in a car.  They see me flustered and wondering what i’m doing.  I didn’t say anything as they don’t speak english.  I just cancelled my first cab going to the bar and order another one.  I saw the guy following me walk straight past on the other side still on the phone looking at me as he walks past now that he has seen the police just keeps going. It’s 1.30am streets are dead in this area and I didn’t move from these 2 policeman who looked at my phone and figured he is waiting for a cab.  Taxi arrives and I shoot back to my hotel.  So many thoughts rushing through my head.  I’m so glad I gave that girl misinformation about where I'm staying etc

Not sure what would have happened to be honest, maybe got fleeced with a big bill and forced to pay and use my watch etc to make payment if i couldn’t or just get robbed.

It was my last night and I slept with one eye open to be honest just in case taxi was followed etc.

Anyway I would much rather get a nice call out service at a fixed price had those links worked.  I get the impression there is alot of scamming on tinder, girl either wants to be wined and dined or you get fleeced when you think with your pants.  Maybe the 1st girl who said ‘you’re looking for trouble’ was trying to tell me something.  Also somehow that girl got me signed out of my own tinder, so maybe i couldn't show her pics to police or something while there ?  they know most tourists don't have their own sim to verify ? who knows.

Anyway if this info helps anyone be extra careful then i did my job




« Last Edit: April 20, 2026, 03:11:06 pm by FunTimesYesPlease »

Offline Cambridgy

Very sorry to hear you had a shit time.
Usually heading out with a local is the best way, alternatively using seeking.com can be excellent but you need to sub in about a month before - and do video calls on WeChat first to verify.

The easy way is pretty much any hotel Spa (just be prepared to negotiate hard) in BJ and Shanghai will offer extras.


Offline Cambridgy

Also did you install WeChat and AliPay? Both are pretty well vital for a trip!

Assuming External Link/Members Only is blocked in China - and you need to use WeChat to make bookings prior to departure.

Proton External Link/Members Only seems to be the most reliable free VPN for travel - or streaming the footy!

Offline styussr

Textbook Chinese clip joint it sounds like. Glad you got out of there.

Offline ceridan99

Textbook Chinese clip joint it sounds like. Glad you got out of there.

Clip joint?

Offline Cambridgy

Clip joint?

Ha - shows how old many of us are - Soho used to be full of them!

It's controlled extraction of money through pressure, confusion, and implied threat.
My experience as an 18yo in Rome was being driven in the back of a Renault 5 to an ATM!


   
1.   The invite
   •   Friendly person or attractive hostess invites you in
   •   “Cheap drinks”, “private strip club”, “bed show”
   
2.   Inside
   •   No clear prices
   •   Drinks arrive fast, often not clearly ordered
   •   Staff or hostesses start adding to your tab
   
3.   The trap
   •   Bill arrives, massively inflated
   •   Extra charges appear out of nowhere
   
4.   Pressure to pay
   •   Intimidation, arguments, or refusal to let you leave easily
   •   Card taken and charged

Offline FunTimesYesPlease

Very sorry to hear you had a shit time.
Usually heading out with a local is the best way, alternatively using seeking.com can be excellent but you need to sub in about a month before - and do video calls on WeChat first to verify.

The easy way is pretty much any hotel Spa (just be prepared to negotiate hard) in BJ and Shanghai will offer extras.

Thanks I had Alipay etc which did payments and transalation but just relied on Whatsapp rather than We Chat

How do you find a local unless you know one, good shout on seeking for next time and vpn - why didn't i think of vpn for that link i don't know. I mean I used it for whatsapp and google but didn't think the local websites would need it.

Offline FunTimesYesPlease

Textbook Chinese clip joint it sounds like. Glad you got out of there.

Thanks got real lucky i guess, the girl was really not happy for someone not great with english she knew her curses well.  Someone was looking after me i think, what are the odd the police would be down the road.  It helped the girl was not subtle she really zoomed in to check the brand of my watch etc then asking me if i have jewellery ? etc I'm like who you are messaging ?  this don't add up.

Strange China is generally safe and most of the gangs have been cleared up but the scams and dodgey stuff is still there if you go looking for it.  There was a sign in the hotel when I checked in along the lines of

'Chinese people will rarely approach you if they do just avoid them, if you are invited to a tea cerenomy or offered watches / bags it will be scam.'  Also use registered cabs or have us call you one.

I never really saw these signs in the other cities but Shanghai hotel had it up.

Just shows mongering is risky business
« Last Edit: April 22, 2026, 05:33:50 pm by FunTimesYesPlease »

Offline Cambridgy

Thanks I had Alipay etc which did payments and transalation but just relied on Whatsapp rather than We Chat

How do you find a local unless you know one, good shout on seeking for next time and vpn - why didn't i think of vpn for that link i don't know. I mean I used it for whatsapp and google but didn't think the local websites would need it.

WeChat is really a must - there is also a 'people nearby' function that SPs use to connect with potential punters.

After work, after business dinner, Chinese folk will usually ask do you want to join them at the Massage Spa...It's not really frowned upon - everyone knows that it will be more than a massage.





Offline FunTimesYesPlease

WeChat is really a must - there is also a 'people nearby' function that SPs use to connect with potential punters.

After work, after business dinner, Chinese folk will usually ask do you want to join them at the Massage Spa...It's not really frowned upon - everyone knows that it will be more than a massage.

What is the typical seeking rate do you know?

Offline Cambridgy

This is not helpful I realise - but it depends!

The last time I used it in BJ no cash changed hands but she wanted some hard to get K-cosmetics that I picked up in Seoul before meeting her.

I'm fortunate to stay in nice hotels - this trip was staying at CWSW which is the BJ equivalent of the Shard. She's into yoga and swimming and their facilities are amazing.

I also got to know one of the therapists in the Spa there, book with her specifically and keep in touch on WeChat. Last visit I booked a 120min treatment session that turned into FS session she initiated. She refused to take more than 1000 RMB tip.

Had a similar experience in San Diego with seeking - a nice suite at the HRH and dinner at Nobu etc. were enough of an attraction for a couple of girls to want to join for a threesome.


Offline FunTimesYesPlease

This is not helpful I realise - but it depends!

The last time I used it in BJ no cash changed hands but she wanted some hard to get K-cosmetics that I picked up in Seoul before meeting her.

I'm fortunate to stay in nice hotels - this trip was staying at CWSW which is the BJ equivalent of the Shard. She's into yoga and swimming and their facilities are amazing.

I also got to know one of the therapists in the Spa there, book with her specifically and keep in touch on WeChat. Last visit I booked a 120min treatment session that turned into FS session she initiated. She refused to take more than 1000 RMB tip.

Had a similar experience in San Diego with seeking - a nice suite at the HRH and dinner at Nobu etc. were enough of an attraction for a couple of girls to want to join for a threesome.

Is that through work the hotels? Or you just book fancy

Online simon07

I went to China a couple of years ago and I found it difficult to find any fun. The massages were limited too.

Offline Bru1901

Wasn't great experience for me

A did a very detailed itemised trip across China.

Started with Beijing only tried a bit there as was jet lagged. Nothing I could find really with prostitution as I understand it being illegal in China, swiped on Tinder but no hits.

Nothing while travelling through Guyan and Xian, not many connections in range on Tinder so again not many hits.  Read on here that you can get extras in massage places so got a full body massage in Xian but nothing was offered.

Last stop was Shanghai, nothing really around when looking.  Went to the hotel massage but it seemed above board and not a great looking masseuse so didn't go further. 

I tried the links posted by Contrapuntist (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=425291.msg4237410#msg4237410) They didn't seem to work, kept asking for a username and password with no way of registering.  (I now know from reading his updated post today that you need to do it before you go or use a VPN.)

So I went on Tinder and started to get white a few matches quickly to my surprise with decent looking profiles.  First I thought this is strange don't normally get so much in China and so quickly, then thought happy days.  Tried to line some up and was quite straight forward, looking for fun etc as only here 3 days no point wasting time.  First day tried to keep the conversation going with the few that connected, one girl I had a bit of rapport with who was after something long term says to me you're looking for trouble.  I said what do you mean.  She said on this platform looking for what you're looking for.  I thought strange because she's on the same platform.

Anyway carried on but couple wanted me to come to their apartment and weren't keen coming to my hotel. I said same thing just come here and they wouldn't have it.  No way I was going to a random apartment in random part of Shanghai.

Also you had quite a few who just wanted to be treated, dinner, drinks etc. Which might be fine if you have the time, get some company while having a meal etc Conversation might not be engaging as very few speak English or English is more basic so will have to use the translator quite a bit and may or may not get something in the end.  Honestly I think it is just a way of getting pampered and likely giving you nothing back, as they wanted a date dinner, drinks, partying etc

Anyway I then got 2 who said that I could meet them in the lobby of their aparthotel as they are there working etc get couple of drinks and if we hit it off could be something more and we could move upstairs.  I though this sounds much better so I said ok.  This was at 12am and I was trying to choose between the 2 and work out their chinese addresses and how far they are etc which was taking me a short while.  Then one of the girls said I’ll send you a taxi.  I was like she’s keen, yes let’s do it.  She was asking me my hotel details and room number for taxi in conversation but I don’t know why I told her the holiday inn 7 mins down the road and gave her no room number and told her i’m just getting a bit to eat and told her to send the taxi to the eatery 2 doors down.  It was a Bar and Grill.  She questioned me a couple of times and claimed she couldn’t find the bar to send tax etc which took another 15 mins.  I sent her a web link to the bar. The other one was messaging me so I told her give me 30 mins , I figured taxi will be here and I can be there and assess the situation if odd I can leave and go to her.  Anyway I’m obviously thinking with my pants.

Taxi arrives and I get in and start driving to her location and then I start thinking what am I doing as this drive is taking a bit long or maybe it’s my spidey senses kicking in.  Taxi driver doesn’t speak English and I couldn't question him when i tried. Then I thought let me check on the other girl in Tinder, and i’ve been signed out.  I’m thinking how did that happen ?  It’s asking me to sign in again but I can’t as I don’t have my UK sim to verify my account.  I thought this is very odd how is that possible, so now i’m locked out of Tinder so no way for backup option etc or to contact the one i’m meeting (Later i’m thinking is there a way the girl did this by reporting account etc). 

Anyway I arrive at the hotel and the girl is sitting in the lobby all ready and walks out towards me so I know it is her.  She looks like the pics i saw but older and they have a habit of airbrushing pics with apps in Asia.  So i figured it’s kind of ok so far, I hug her.  She makes a comment about my shirt and says ‘Tommy nice’ i thought odd  and she grabs my hand and starts walking me to a bar.  I said I thought we were doing your hotel lobby bar, she said it closed now.  It was 1 am now and I thought maybe it is now.

Anyway she knows where she is going and we walk about 5 mins to what looks like a bar.  It is black and we walk in past a guy at the door.  I take a quick look and there is about 3 partitioned cubicles /  tables at the front and she is trying to take me upstairs to a closed room with a door.  I’m like what is going on here so I said can we just sit on the front ones here.  So she said ok and took me to the one in the corner next to the wall.  It’s kind of clear she’s been to this place before.  We do small talk and she confirms my hotel again I said Holiday inn at Nanjing do you know it ?  She said yes 4 star my one is 3 star.  She messages someone on her chat app which I noticed. 

A girl comes to take the order and she starts ordering in chinese, I told her i’ll just have a coke and you can get what you want to drink.  Anyway I noticed her look at my expensive watch and she did this at least twice quite visibly.  The order arrives and I noticed she has ordered 2 drinks for her (Glasses of Wine) and my coke as well as a large fruit bowl.  I’m thinking it would of been normal to ask me if she can order food and what else might be coming.  Then she asks me am I not wearing any jewellery ?  which I thought was odd, maybe one of my Tinder pics had some jewellery on.  I said No didn’t bring any,  conversation is limited as she is chinese and then she messages again on her chat app.  I thought this isn’t adding up and I’m not sure I like this.  I said i’m going to go out and make a quick phone call. 

She got up with me and said why, we are enjoying ourselves.  I said it’s ok I just need to make a quick phone call and i’ll be back 2 mins.  She doesn’t want me to go, I start walking out the partitioned cubicle and startle the serving girl.  As luck would have it the guy at the door (security ?) was behind the counter getting something at that exact moment.  My adrenaline kicked in and I just quickly walked outside with the girl following me and making a scene.  I said go back in and I will be in give me 2 mins.  She started to say no you won’t I know what you are doing, you are calling a taxi.  She said you have to pay for all of this and the security guy comes out and starts looking around.  She is telling him in chinese to help i think but for some reason he is either looking around for support or not keen as i’m outside.

The girl starts saying she is going to follow me and that she knows where i’m staying - hotel Holiday Inn and everything.  I said that is fine. The girl pops inside as her bag and phone and everything is in there, I start walking the girl is cursing me ‘ you will die a horrible death etc’.  I notice a guy who starts walking behind me on the phone.  I also saw a second guy on the otherside. So I started running and cross the road and see him pick up pace.  I must of run maybe only 6 mins and saw 2 guys in yellow high vis across the road standing against a car.  I cross the road to be with them and as luck turns out they are traffic police ticketing a guy in a car.  They see me flustered and wondering what i’m doing.  I didn’t say anything as they don’t speak english.  I just cancelled my first cab going to the bar and order another one.  I saw the guy following me walk straight past on the other side still on the phone looking at me as he walks past now that he has seen the police just keeps going. It’s 1.30am streets are dead in this area and I didn’t move from these 2 policeman who looked at my phone and figured he is waiting for a cab.  Taxi arrives and I shoot back to my hotel.  So many thoughts rushing through my head.  I’m so glad I gave that girl misinformation about where I'm staying etc

Not sure what would have happened to be honest, maybe got fleeced with a big bill and forced to pay and use my watch etc to make payment if i couldn’t or just get robbed.

It was my last night and I slept with one eye open to be honest just in case taxi was followed etc.

Anyway I would much rather get a nice call out service at a fixed price had those links worked.  I get the impression there is alot of scamming on tinder, girl either wants to be wined and dined or you get fleeced when you think with your pants.  Maybe the 1st girl who said ‘you’re looking for trouble’ was trying to tell me something.  Also somehow that girl got me signed out of my own tinder, so maybe i couldn't show her pics to police or something while there ?  they know most tourists don't have their own sim to verify ? who knows.

Anyway if this info helps anyone be extra careful then i did my job

Has happened to me a few times but not in asia

Basically you wine and dine and a bill comes for aeound £400-500

Either you then bolt and not pay but exit is blocked

Someone follows you to a atm

Happened once in an incall to me also, csme to my room and wouldnt let go of phone. Messaging someone and asking for money etc

Instead i legged it and she followed. A guy met me outside and said payment for time bla bla bla

Told him to fuck off in hia own language

As for your scenario. Felt for the same.one during covid. I didnt realise until i had a minder when going to a atm. Lost £200 but could have been more. This was a male friend who i had met while walking and he asked for directions and from there we chatted. If they see designer they increase the tab etc

Just be wary



Offline Bru1901

Ha - shows how old many of us are - Soho used to be full of them!

It's controlled extraction of money through pressure, confusion, and implied threat.
My experience as an 18yo in Rome was being driven in the back of a Renault 5 to an ATM!


   
1.   The invite
   •   Friendly person or attractive hostess invites you in
   •   “Cheap drinks”, “private strip club”, “bed show”
   
2.   Inside
   •   No clear prices
   •   Drinks arrive fast, often not clearly ordered
   •   Staff or hostesses start adding to your tab
   
3.   The trap
   •   Bill arrives, massively inflated
   •   Extra charges appear out of nowhere
   
4.   Pressure to pay
   •   Intimidation, arguments, or refusal to let you leave easily
   •   Card taken and charged

Use seeking. Mich less chance of it happening in countries where escorting is banned so to speak