When do you discuss massage extras?

[Chalk50]

Might seem an odd question, I prefer massages followed by body to body, and generally use Asian parlours.
Do you wait until they turn even in places your have been before or could your request a nude massage as an example on arrival.
It seems you are led to them room and left to strip once face down then conversation is more difficult.

[Jonestown]

I think the question of extras is quite often brought up at turn over by the girl if you have not asked before then. I’d suggest casually asking, say 20 minutes in, if the girl does B2B, then you both know where you are. The other classic ploy is to let your arms fall down over the sides of the massage table and again about 20 mins in casually brush the leg of the girl in an obvious move so that she knows you are a player.

[Gustav Klimt]

As I’ve grown in confidence I sometimes wait until the girl returns to the room before fully stripping, I find standing there in just a T-shirt & a hard on lets her know why I’m there.

[myothernameis]

One option, but comes with risks, when the girls legs are near your hand, maybe just run your fingers up and down just below her thighs. 

Now the risk, you get told sorry your not allowed to do that, and they continue with the massage, or ask you to leave

Most responses I get, so what more do you want, and more or less I know, body to body

[Kingfisher69]

I tend to be up front with them in the sure knowledge that they would have been asked before. I strip off and ask if they offer any extras. Very occasionally I'm told they don't, but most of the time they offer B2B, blowjob or more. Personally I like to pay at the beginning as I hate breaking the flow half way through to pay in the middle.

[runner in the woods]

for me , with a new girl, it is anticipation , especially when you get a few cc or knacker brushes before the turn over . Virtually every massage Ive had in a Thai or Chinese place, you get a whisper in the ear. Then a bit of back and forth bartering. Which i find exciting.

[qarma]

I've learnt from experience that the best approach is to discuss extras right at the very beginning. When you're paying for the massage it seems like a natural thing to ask about extras so you can pay for those at the same time.

If you're at a place where you pay on entry and are joined in the room by the masseuse later then I'd discuss extras with her at this point.

Not only is it better for you (you can enjoy the massage knowing your extras are already agreed and paid for) but it's better for the masseuse too, as she knows exactly what extras she is providing. If you're seeing Asian ladies then I think the more detail you give them about what you want the better for you and them.

[stevesucks69]

I've learnt from experience that the best approach is to discuss extras right at the very beginning. When you're paying for the massage it seems like a natural thing to ask about extras so you can pay for those at the same time.

If you're at a place where you pay on entry and are joined in the room by the masseuse later then I'd discuss extras with her at this point.

Not only is it better for you (you can enjoy the massage knowing your extras are already agreed and paid for) but it's better for the masseuse too, as she knows exactly what extras she is providing. If you're seeing Asian ladies then I think the more detail you give them about what you want the better for you and them.

Also if you've been there before you may be able to get your review count as an extra

[DastardlyDick]

I mostly see Independent girls, and they often ask up front. The few parlour girls are more discreet, probably because they don't want management finding out, and whisper it just before the flip.

[maxxblue]

One option, but comes with risks, when the girls legs are near your hand, maybe just run your fingers up and down just below her thighs. 

Why would you do this? The risk is that you are potentially committing sexual assault.

[Jonestown]

Why would you do this? The risk is that you are potentially committing sexual assault.

The trick is to let your hand hang down and it it brush the girls leg as she moves back and forward along the massage table. If she moves away it’s a no no, but if she keeps returning and making contact then there is some accord at least. This contact will invariable take place below the girls knee.

[maxxblue]

The trick is to let your hand hang down and it it brush the girls leg as she moves back and forward along the massage table. If she moves away it’s a no no, but if she keeps returning and making contact then there is some accord at least. This contact will invariable take place below the girls knee.

But it is completely unnecessary - if the masseuse is going to offer extras she will offer extras. No trick required.

[Jonestown]

But it is completely unnecessary - if the masseuse is going to offer extras she will offer extras. No trick required.

No, in many cases she will not know if you are a straight customer or a player.

[maxxblue]

No, in many cases she will not know if you are a straight customer or a player.

Not in my experience. 

[RogerHealey]

But it is completely unnecessary - if the masseuse is going to offer extras she will offer extras. No trick required.

+1

Either ask before the massage starts* or enjoy the WSWS experience. Even with regulars I don't start 'mauling' them whilst they're trying to give a massage there's time enough and I try to extend some respect for their efforts.

*Even this can and does cause offense for those trying to run a legit operation.

[Jonestown]

+1

Either ask before the massage starts* or enjoy the WSWS experience. Even with regulars I don't start 'mauling' them whilst they're trying to give a massage there's time enough and I try to extend some respect for their efforts.

*Even this can and does cause offense for those trying to run a legit operation.

I quite agree, no one should be “mauled” whilst doing their job, this was not what I was suggesting at all.

[myothernameis]

A few years back, went to Well Health on Praed Street, and reviewed a few times on here.   So I new extra were on offer, so when in the place, the first thing I was asked, is this your first time.

Now I knew dont just say no, but rather say yes, and tell them you were here 12 months ago.   I'm guessing if you say, no, never been here, and then you ask the questions, are there any extra on offer, she might not be forth coming

So my first time here, the girl was wearing a red silky dress, and I let my hands wander, and before I knew, she had removed the dress

I think we all know, if you go to a legitimate place, dont let your hand wander, and a good chance before your massage, you will have filled in a medical document.   One place where I had filled in the form, included a part about extras, and any form of asking would end the massage

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Just ask simple as that and ask price too if you want to haggle the price a bit now is the time to do it..

Some want paying up front, some will wait till after depends a bit if your known there as a good punter!..

[RogerHealey]

I quite agree, no one should be “mauled” whilst doing their job, this was not what I was suggesting at all.

Yes, I agree it wasn't your implication. And I know using the word "mauled" was provocative however in my defence this is in the eye of the beholder. Any deliberate contact other than neutral brushing (and c'mon we all know what we're talking about) can cause the masseuse to be uncomfortable. Consent is everything and I repeat some masseuse will provide a legit service only, some will do massage with extras and some will only provide extras once they know the customer. I've experienced all these including some girls impatient with my reticence who put my hands on their bum after 2 minutes!

 If you want a dead cert then do the research or go to a provider who gives you what you're looking for upfront. Oh, and by the way, I think I've only gone without an offer twice over the years so fortunately I hardly have to live the life of a monk!

[shagmore]

The places I go and have reviewed,  I know they give extras, if you sit bollock naked on the table when they walk in, in most cases they say about extras, also when they are massaging you running your hands up and down their legs gets a goodcresponse.
I prefer to ask for naked at the beginning as no point waiting till half way through.
But would not recommend my approach unless you are a regular or familiar with the girls

[fredhiggins]

Complicated one, I'm sure I've read of SPs who only provide HE etc if the client asks.

Probably best to stick to well reviewed places. However, a bit of WSWS is a nice thrill.

[Jonestown]

Complicated one, I'm sure I've read of SPs who only provide HE etc if the client asks.

Probably best to stick to well reviewed places. However, a bit of WSWS is a nice thrill.

You can say that again, the massage room is clearly a minefield, if you touch the SP it’s sexual assault, if you ask for extras it’s sexual harassment, if the SP asks if you want B2B/HJ that is presumably sexual harassment as well. It’s can become a Mexican standoff, which I’ve experienced a few times, with neither party able to get the subject out in the open.

Sticking to well reviewed places is not the answer either, that’s just allowing others to do the heavy lifting whilst you follow in their footsteps later. The board would quickly stagnate with few fresh opportunities being reported.

[Cambridgy]

Polite, respectful, upfront enquiry is usually best - you can make it playful, “I’m naked - is there any chance of you getting that tunic off later?”

The point about touching - client initiating is a bit of a tricky one, but you don’t need to do that.
Just let your arms hand over the side of the table, if the therapist keeps rubbing her fanny against your arm - then you know that it’s a SW.

The occasional issue is, She Will when the client wishes She Won’t
Remember a stop at a shop in Kings Cross a few years ago where I was told to ‘stick it in me’ and ‘it didn’t matter’ that I didn’t have condoms…me saying no thank you was all a bit embarrassing for both of us…

[daviemac]

You can say that again, the massage room is clearly a minefield, if you touch the SP it’s sexual assault, if you ask for extras it’s sexual harassment, if the SP asks if you want B2B/HJ that is presumably sexual harassment as well. It’s can become a Mexican standoff, which I’ve experienced a few times, with neither party able to get the subject out in the open.

One way is to casually ask if anyone ever asks for more than a massage, then you can tailor your reply to suit her's.

[RandomGuy99]

Lie on bed and let her massage you. Comment on how it feels good. Provide more access to parts of your body and see what happens. Just before the turn over she'll probably ask if you want any extras.

[The Vicar of Dibley]

Lie on bed and let her massage you. Comment on how it feels good. Provide more access to parts of your body and see what happens. Just before the turn over she'll probably ask if you want any extras.

That's good advice.

If I am unsure of a shop or SP I will sometimes wait for them to return after undressing and ask if I should keep my underwear on or not.

As RandomGuy said, provide feedback on the massage. Say it feels nice. Compliment them on their skills as a masseuse. Ask how long they have been a masseuse.

Once the SP realises you are a decent chap and they don't have to constantly fend off wandering hands they tend to relax a bit I find.

I have also realised that just because others have reported certain services available it doesn't mean everyone will offered the same. Also just because I have been given a certain service in the past doesn't mean it will be offered every time. For example I was offered, and accepted, FS on my third visit to a SP but on the forth she wouldn't even take her top off.

[Stevelondon]

The only massage shop (I guess) I go to is part of the Osterley crews business in Motspur Park. So I’m no real expert here.

But I have done in the past visited one or two other places. I’m not one for WSWS or YMMV.
So I’m almost certainly going to somewhere where I know extras are on offer.

So as I can’t stand bartering and the ruination of a relaxing time by having to stop half way to extract more dosh out of my moth eaten wallet. I always have the chat at the beginning. 🤷🏼

[randyrobert]

Usually you can tell during the massage-if she studiously avoids the top of your inner thighs then she will often wait until the turnover to offer extras.

 If you get the occasional “accidental “brush then I will reach under and grab her hand and place it on my tackle and encourage her to have a good feel. Sometimes I rise up on hands and knees to let her have better access. All part of the anticipation

[RandomGuy99]

If you get the occasional “accidental “brush then I will reach under and grab her hand and place it on my tackle and encourage her to have a good feel. Sometimes I rise up on hands and knees to let her have better access. All part of the anticipation

That could go badly wrong.

[Munter84]

If it's a place that's known for offering extra services I would say expect the question to be asked, and there's nothing wrong with letting the masseuse know you're on the same level. Some respectful touch to her, ask her if she wants to undress, etc.

I wouldn't ask for extras at the very start of a massage unless the girl is a regular of yours, it could come across as a police or local authority raid. Let some trust get established first.

[Zanderpanda]

Ive asked some massage therapists who offered me etras how they knew i wanted them because its not always obvious. In an AMP it is obvious but in other places you can never tell. here is what i have been told by a few.

if you take your pants off they get a good indication.
if you get hard its a good indication.
they ask if things are ok if the hands are getting closer to the fun stuff

I would never touch anyone without their permission. 

[sparkus]

Ive asked some massage therapists who offered me etras how they knew i wanted them because its not always obvious. In an AMP it is obvious but in other places you can never tell. here is what i have been told by a few.

if you take your pants off they get a good indication.
if you get hard its a good indication.
they ask if things are ok if the hands are getting closer to the fun stuff

I would never touch anyone without their permission.

If you rest your hands either ahead of you or at the sides of the table then nine times out of 10 they take the initiative and deliberately lean their crotch over them.  Also in winter I've casually mentioned my hands are cold and this has immediately led to the SP putting them up their dress and between their thighs.  Sometimes they've also pointed this out and asked if I wanted them warmed in this way.

I think a general rule of thumb is that it's perfectly fine to ask about them before or during a massage in a shiop if WSWS and cc swipes aren't part of the experience for you as the staff are well versed in such approaches, it's more an issue if you're visiting a woman's home then you should wait to be asked.

[Upsndowns79]

I posted something very similar in a recent massage review but I’d agree with quite a lot of what’s been said above. I echo the comments about treading carefully in trying to “handle the goods” unprompted.

In the main the thing to remember is these girls will have heard it all before (and probably continue to hear it several times every day) so it’s fine to politely ask a direct question.

A few tips I’d add.

Never just leave the underwear on (this gives the signal that you want your intimate parts to remain private). Either just remove (the worst that can happen is they cover you up) or simply ask “on or off”.

Telling the lady that they (or the shop) have been recommended by a friend who said he enjoyed the massage very much/left happy etc. Of course after reading reviews on here and using the info as a guide.

Ask for a specific type of massage like “can you massage medium to firm to start but moving to soft and sensual after a while” & then as she alters her technique your body language and a few ooohhs and aahhs when she moves to website areas will let her know what you want.

Don’t be afraid to ask or joke about additional services. Always remain polite and respectful but asking if she massages your whole body with a smile or as joking that “he looks like he wants some attention too” etc.

If you are clean, fresh, respectful and lighthearted then if extras are available on the menu you’ll almost definitely be ok.

[Thephoenix]

When I'm with the masseuse.

[Naughtyboyuk]

I have taken to tucking my cock downwards when hopping face down onto the table.  It is exposed for the massuese to see and absolutely clear I am interested in extras.

Have had 100% success rate with the massuese taking the initiative by massaging my cock/balls and getting me fully hard before we discuss what extras are available.

[worstnameever]

Id ruined my back doing some heavy lifting and my usual legit massage person wasn't available so i went to the local Chinese massage place that i was sure offered every service, Id left my boxers on to show i was just after a back massage, When it came to the roll over she just pulled my boxers down and asked if i wanted a HJ, I just laughed and said just a back massage, then she had a quick play with my tackle to try to tempt me, So i asked her how much, She told me then i said i would just pay her that to continue with my back, She got happy about this and gave me a bloody good massage after that.

So i'd say ask pants on/off at the start and if they put a folded towel over your bum with pants on then they are probably staying on :-(

[RandomGuy99]

I have taken to tucking my cock downwards when hopping face down onto the table.  It is exposed for the massuese to see and absolutely clear I am interested in extras.

Have had 100% success rate with the massuese taking the initiative by massaging my cock/balls and getting me fully hard before we discuss what extras are available.

doesn't the cock get in the way when she's massaging your feet?

[Naughtyboyuk]

doesn't the cock get in the way when she's massaging your feet?

I wish hahaha !!!

[Norwichwood]

I love getting free benefit - lots of reach under - before they ask the q of anything extra - and I sometimes say 'no thanks just massage please' what a bastard lol - but I always change my mind!

Just get a boner and let her see it

[Kojac]

Might seem an odd question, I prefer massages followed by body to body, and generally use Asian parlours.
Do you wait until they turn even in places your have been before or could your request a nude massage as an example on arrival.
It seems you are led to them room and left to strip once face down then conversation is more difficult.  BINGO 

There are levels to this massage parlour game. 

[Thephoenix]

doesn't the cock get in the way when she's massaging your feet?

She probably just tucks it into his arsehole out the way. 

[PuntyMcPunter]

If you aren't sure whether extras will be available or not,  then I think asking right at the start "underwear on or off?" is good codethat you want extras.
a legit place will say "keep underwear on", otherwise, they will say "off please" or "up to you"

[Skeleton]

I always go underwear off, if they drape a towel then I assume there are no extras and hope I’m wrong.

No towel, happy days 

[folma322]

I've had no underwear and no towel without extras.

If it's a shop and they ask you if you've been here before, always answer yes
If they touch you inappropriately, extra are probably available, that being said Ive had a massuese basically massage my balls without extras.
Also hanging your arms off the table, I find that's one way to not get your arms massaged. Some put it up and massage, some just leave your arms dangling and just move on to extras.