Dating a WG

[cueball]

Ricky, I agree with LL, I think you'll have get to the end of this road without taking any of our advice. Don't beat yourself up though, that fanny has profound effects on us. When it's all done and dusted you'll be a better wiser man at the other end (just don't give her your fuckin credit card)

[berksboy]

"She also has really appreciated when I have bought her gifts which a lot of thought has gone into, e.g. engraving a personal msg into a watch I bought her"

             Sorry but this is so going to go tits up , sounds like you are a very nice guy but maybe to nice to be seeing working girls ? You are paying to fuck her and go its not a fucking date - get real !

[akauya]

Stupid question but what is eas?

EAS (Emotional Attachment Syndrome) it's a serious sexually transmitted disease although the majority of punters have a natural immunity a few catch it very easily, for them no amount of condoms can prevent it.

Symptoms make the affected punters go all fluffy, needy, wanting cuddles, kisses and meaningful chats instead of sex. It can also turn them into puppies in the presence of their "loved-one" (i.e. the prossie). They can become possessive and get upset if other men show interest in "their" woman.

The only known cure is for the EAS afflicted punter to post the link of said prossie so we can all go shag her and tell him all about it. Once he realises that he is not that special to her he will soon stop him wanting to see her.

[socks]

She also has really appreciated when I have bought her gifts which a lot of thought has gone into, e.g. engraving a personal msg into a watch I bought her. 

If you did that for me I'd be appreciative.

We'll be here for you after next Tuesday mate. Been there, done it, still get the odd pang, but I don't delude myself that it's anything other than a fantasy.

[OakTree]

Yes i realise that, she has received many sugar daddy offers from clients and turns them down, she is not money grabbing at all and has a normal job in a care home the other days of the week she's not working.  I have only met one wg since meeting her, yes I would be completely faithful as I am not a serial punter or sex addict that I "need" sex.

To be honest mate you sound like someone who should not be punting. If you hadn't fallen for this girl sooner or later it would've been another.

[peter_bungee]

If you did that for me I'd be appreciative.

lol

We'll be here for you after next Tuesday mate. Been there, done it, still get the odd pang, but I don't delude myself that it's anything other than a fantasy

My head is saying use common sense and deep down I know she doesn't/won't feel the same for me.  But i can't help thinking everyone comes into your life for a reason either to teach you a lesson or to be in it forever, I have to take a chance and just try and find out the truth asap as longer i leave it worse it will get.

Fraserlad:  I think you are right I have always fallen in love too easily, I wish I had not seen her more than once as it has been effecting my normal life and energies/thoughts have gone into her and have been neglecting real friends.

[JohnEv]

You've got to trust your own judgement, if in the future you think you've missed an opportunity you will spend a long time beating yourself up.

There's not real difference between a WG and other girls, some will take you for a sucker and some won't and has been said many times, WG's are more honest in many ways.  Despite what some like to say, WG's are human too.

I've taken the full plunge twice, first time didn't realty work out (lasted about 9 months), second time did (3 years), 50% is a better percentage than my record with civvy street relationships.  A third attempt didn't get off the starting line as a proper relationship but we were ordinary friends on and off with the occasional punt and a few favours both ways

WG = A person who exchanges money for sex
Punter = A person who exchanges money for sex
Which one is the damaged goods and an STD risk????

[jackdaw]

lol

  But i can't help thinking everyone comes into your life for a reason either to teach you a lesson or to be in it forever, I have to take a chance and just try and find out the truth asap as longer i leave it worse it will get.

This sounds a lot like the Mills and Boon novels that all my favourite aunts told me were "too soppy to read to read".

I can see why it might be  a good idea to try to get a WG you really fancy to become your girl friend if you really believe she likes you. BUT there's a lot more effective, quick, and cheap ways to find out if she really likes you than going for a load of paid encounters, buying engraved gifts, etc. You've received some excellent advice on how to do it... main one is ask her out for a cheap date and see how she see reacts.

But then you've asked her out, and she hasn't "taken the bait". When you write things like "asked her out, but she's too lazy and disorganised to meet"... I suspect practically every other person on this site is thinking "get real". Come on ... how organised does anybody need to be to get to a date??

[sucky2dollar]

Ricky is clearly a troll, no one can still act that fucking fluffy after all this good advice.

As for OP and his dilemma:
If you think a woman who rent$ out her fanny and gets jizzed on all day makes a respectable partner then go for it. 

>Prostitute
>Self respecting woman

Pick one.

[cueball]

Ha ha, love your avatar sucky2dollar

[Sienna_Bronze]

What has sex got to do with self respect? There was must just thinking it was a biological function...

I've been married, we were together for 6 years and the relationship ended not because of my job but for for other reasons. It was an open relationship and the sex part of it was ok. As a previous poster pointed out all of us on here exchange sex for money and it makes us no less self respecting or damaged from the other. Ricky is clearly being taken for a mug but anyone would be able to see that! It doesn't mean all relationships with wgs are the same.

[squeezebox]

wow did not expect such a reaction!  Thanks for the feedback, I understand I might very likely be being naive and have only been punting for 12 months so have never experienced this "EAS" before however do intend to find out within the next few months if there is anything to it.

She has not simply given herself to me, partly due to the job she has to have a barrier to separate personal life and business otherwise it will be a disaster especially when keeping it hidden it from family, she has already trusted me with her name but that is obviously not the same as saying "i do"

To answer some of the questions, she has only been in the business 6 months and is looking for a way out, so there is no issue of making her leave the job and her resenting it, she hates it and is looking for other jobs.  I could live with what she has been doing as I know she is a good person and is just looking for a quick financial boost.   She has not met me outside work as she is quite disorganised/lazy and part of the reason she has possibly gone into this job…but as i said i have only been seeing her few months so not had many chances.

She does not refuse sex just does not initiate it, and I am too busy getting to know her (my choice) so forget about the sex and then time runs out, she has on a few occasions asked if I want to do anything towards the end.

I will keep everyone updated in the coming weeks/months..

This bit suggests to me as a WG, she is offering you a service other than sex as part of the booking.  ie: Fantasy - (sit and talk). There are plenty of WG's that offer this service in this form, you pay your money and take your choice. (you say it's your choice)

The test in this scenario would be when your time is up, suggesting you get down to some serious fucking, unlimited cum. You may get a reaction: "Sorry hun, i've got Tom, Dick and Adbul lined up today and have to get ready for them"

One consideration though could be she is looking for an exit strategy from this type of work, although working in a care home may not float her boat either. 

[figleaf]

If you date a WG then be prepared for a world of pain.

I'm one of the most laid back and open minded guys walking but it's a new kind of hell thinking about randomers fucking the girl you are close too.  Everything goes through your head and you will drive yourself nuts.

You'll never trust each other and always be looking over your shoulder.  This will result in some bitter arguments over trivial things.

She will be tied to the job.  Even if you can afford to support her she will hate to give up the independence and take the pay cut to do a minimum wage job.

If it does come crashing down its much more painful and bitter than a civvie relationship hitting the skids too.

Bad idea on so many levels but like the others I suspect Ricky and the OP will need to learn for themselves. 

[rafatheira]

I hope it works out for you Ricky,but I fear you're in a messy situation as of now.

I had one of my regulars try something like this on me...like talk more, tell me her real name, why she does this etc and mentioned how we got on so well.. blah di blah. And as absolutely gorgeous as she is...and given that there's no age difference...she's a year older than me in fact, I was tempted but I'm able to compartmentalize punting vs real life quite well, and made it abundantly clear that I didn't want the lines to be blurred.

I find it absolutely shocking that you genuinely believe she doesn't have an hour a week outside of work to see you...unpaid. That should set the alarm bells ringing. Date a civvy...shag a wg and leave the 'feelings' behind in rubber. 

[SirFrank]

There's none so blind as those that won't listen. I suggest we stop wasting our breath here

[blue]

Some of you gents should not be punting (Ricky), try a dating site mate - this WG is clearly using you and you'll most likely get hurt fella.

[sticko]

I've been in a similar position to the OP and as a married punter who spends time with prostitutes precisely to avoid complicated emotional entanglements I backed the fuck away.  As long as I'm paying for sex there's less moral hazard, in my head at least.  I explained this to the woman at the time and she was ok with it.  We still see each other; I still pay. 

By the way, I only recently started paying attention to UKP.  I've been punting for years and have used PN for years.  You lot are a breath of fresh air, and the a/w knowledge and insight here is very, very helpful.  So thanks, and I'm looking forward to reciprocating.

S

[iceraider]

Thanks for the input fellas.

I've got a few punts lined up the first week of January. Going to go through with these and I'm meeting the girl in question on the 10th. She's coming to mine to stay for a few days so we can talk etc.
I'm in a position where I make enough to support the both of us if she is to give up the game.
I'd give up punting so we'll see where the conversation goes on the 10th.
I'm not going to make any snap decisions but I don't think I would want any of you lot having a go while I was at work.
I'll leave it up to her to make that call but I don't think I could take it any further if she carried on working.

I'm heavily into the swinging side so hopefully that would be something to keep things fresh between us etc.

Only time will tell.

Cheers again chaps.

[Tjkooker]

Here just stop it now. This isn't even her fault. It's all in your head. You really have no grip on reality whatsoever. She probably dreads you coming to see her. The sauna probably refuse to turn you away as it's easy money for them. The poor lass probably goes home constantly looking over her shoulder incase your following her.

[Lewis]

I've got a few punts lined up the first week of January.

You can't be that much in love with her if you're continuing to punt other girls.

She's coming to mine to stay for a few days so we can talk etc.

Lock up or hide anything of value then.

But ultimately, as a couple of others have already said - this has got to be a wind up.

[iceraider]

You can't be that much in love with her if you're continuing to punt other girls.

Lock up or hide anything of value then.

But ultimately, as a couple of others have already said - this has got to be a wind up.

Think you have the 2 posters mixed up fella. I'm not the daft twat paying a prossie to talk. That's Ricky

[LL]

Think you have the 2 posters mixed up fella. I'm not the daft twat paying a prossie to talk. That's Ricky

That's right you're the other daft twat - the one who believes a prostitute has fallen in love with him 

[figleaf]

I explained this to the woman at the time and she was ok with it.  We still see each other; I still pay. 

There be dragons. If I start liking a WG I have to stay away as its only going one way from there.  I've lost some of the best girls I've met in order to avoid serious EAS.

[figleaf]

That's right you're the other daft twat - the one who believes a prostitute has fallen in love with him 

It sounds like the OP has much more encouragment and has his feet much more on the ground than the second guy.

[Jeremy]

I've enjoyed this episode of "Fluffies make the funniest rationalisations", can't wait til next Tuesday for the next instalment

[thefoxman]

EAS is a rite of passage with punting. And who can blame WG's for taking an easy option of money without sex...

At least hope you don't lose too much money learning your lesson.

I did this for a while - non paid meets, and nights out
- but there was a drip,drip of minor and major financial disasters in her life that took me a while to realise I was being played
TBH I lost hundreds, but got some "free" sex so it probably balances out (so I tell myself now).

We pay for "GFE", and sometimes it's too real !

[socks]

I experience two types of EAS I think. One to a particular girl I already blabbed on about in the EAS thread. Still would probably let my heart rule my head if the opportunity for more than paid sex came up but don't act like a twat now and being aware of feelings and what's actually going on enables me to manage it, so I can enjoy sex with her for what it is!

The other is to punting itself. Most of the time it's just the chance for NSA pervy sex in a massive variety of forms, with a complete range of fit and/or up for it girls. Sometimes though I look at my disinterested leech of an OH and think fucking hell why can't there just be at least a little bit of punting magic there!? Happily though this EAS-type induced depression only lasts however long it takes me to get off my arse, log onto UKP and come to my senses - or wank myself silly over the banks of selfie-porn this wonder of punting has given me!

With luck one or both of the current lost sufferers in this thread will come through their current madness in some way or another!