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Offline Blackpool Rock

Sound logic

On the Jizzer thread should something new surface linked to her
That side of the pond etc

& on this thread / this side of the pond its the paedo nonce
IMO best to include Mandy the paedo nonce here too
But the Jizzy Maxwell thread has been going for 5-6 years so i'd have thought it was preferable not to have yet another new thread about all of this (AMW has been widely posted about on that thread and these latest misconduct issues have only come to light as a result of the Jizzy / Epstein files)

Surely if (when) Mandy gets arrested that will now need it's own bespoke thread as this one is specifically about AMW being arrested  :unknown:

I'll accept Davie's decision but it seems to run counter to other similar situations where the need for a new thread is questioned by the Mods  :unknown:

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Although there is overlap, my view, for what it's worth, is that the issues around the three M's (Mandelson, Maxwell and Mountbatten-Windsor) are sufficiently distinct to merit separation.

Meanwhile, in the context of "distinct" or "combined" threads more generally...

While it was obviously appreciated by many users of this site when the powers-that-be relaxed the rules about discussion of politics to allow just one thread, it does mean that an awful lot of themes are simultaneously covered on it.

Politics, after all, is a vast field.  Over the past week, for example, Donald Trump, Jim Radcliffe, Tony Blair, the “Deep State” and the Roman Empire have all been tangled up together on the politics thread!

If it is not felt that more separation should be allowed when it comes to politics, could there at least perhaps be one thread for UK politics and one for world politics?  Obviously there would still be different themes jostling for attention, but so much as now.

I appreciate that even a single politics thread was a concession, but some such further concession would be an aid to the clarity of debate.

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Although there is overlap, my view, for what it's worth, is that the issues around the three M's (Mandelson, Maxwell and Mountbatten-Windsor) are sufficiently distinct to merit separation.

Meanwhile, in the context of "distinct" or "combined" threads more generally...

While it was obviously appreciated by many users of this site when the powers-that-be relaxed the rules about discussion of politics to allow just one thread, it does mean that an awful lot of themes are simultaneously covered on it.

Politics, after all, is a vast field.  Over the past week, for example, Donald Trump, Jim Radcliffe, Tony Blair, the “Deep State” and the Roman Empire have all been tangled up together on the politics thread!

If it is not felt that more separation should be allowed when it comes to politics, could there at least perhaps be one thread for UK politics and one for world politics?  Obviously there would still be different themes jostling for attention, but so much as now.

I appreciate that even a single politics thread was a concession, but some such further concession would be an aid to the clarity of debate.
And herein (IMO) lies the issue of having too many distinct threads on the same / similar subject, exactly how many threads do we end up with when actually 1 will suffice  :unknown:
Why limit it to UK and world, why not have UK; Europe; N America; S America; Asia; Africa  :unknown:

Where does it stop, we have separate review boards for standard punts; TS punts and massage but what about sub boards for all of those based on ethnicity white; black; Asian  :unknown:

You just end up creating a monster  :thumbsdown: 

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Hopefully, Mandy is absolutely shitting himself after this!

Hopefully indeed
Just like the young women who were constantly in fear shitting themselves trapped on paedo island & in other places

The rozzers are finally  :rolleyes: taking a wider look & things are gonna unravel.  A lot

As for Thames Valley Police now mentioning speaking with diplomatic protection officers [DPO] previous & current they'll have been doing this already
This also applies to Mandy the only difference being fewer of them with him
They'll be more likely to open up about Mandy
Mandy & AMW could end up incriminating each other as there'll be some cross over as they both stayed on the island & in New York
I wonder if they were ever together hosted by Epstein ?

I'm sure some of the DPOs & their higher ups are appalled with what they both got up to especially AMW as more frequent over a longer time period
Limited think zero loyalties as AMW is known to continually behave like an utter cunt to staff & those around him

They'll be thinking of their pensions for those retired
& their jobs for the current crew tho its not hard to work out that AMWs scope for doing anything untoward since his bbc interview & Epstein's death is limited
They'll be wanting indemnities to open up
I wouldn't be surprised if the higher ups aren't averse to some unfortunate leakage to the media
There's more than one way to get stuff out in the open
& once it is out in the open they need to investigate it, thats a shame


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I'll accept Davie's decision but it seems to run counter to other similar situations where the need for a new thread is questioned by the Mods  :unknown:
Not a decision mate, just a suggestion to keep the topic in one place.

My personal opinion is that as you have to go back nearly 400 years for the last time a British royal was arrested the arrest of Andrew warrants a thread of it's own.

Various royals have motoring convictions and Princess Anne has a criminal conviction but none were arrested, King Charles I in 1647 was the last.

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Hopefully indeed
Just like the young women who were constantly in fear shitting themselves trapped on paedo island & in other places

The rozzers are finally  :rolleyes: taking a wider look & things are gonna unravel.  A lot

As for Thames Valley Police now mentioning speaking with diplomatic protection officers [DPO] previous & current they'll have been doing this already
This also applies to Mandy the only difference being fewer of them with him
They'll be more likely to open up about Mandy
Mandy & AMW could end up incriminating each other as there'll be some cross over as they both stayed on the island & in New York
I wonder if they were ever together hosted by Epstein ?

I'm sure some of the DPOs & their higher ups are appalled with what they both got up to especially AMW as more frequent over a longer time period
Limited think zero loyalties as AMW is known to continually behave like an utter cunt to staff & those around him

They'll be thinking of their pensions for those retired
& their jobs for the current crew tho its not hard to work out that AMWs scope for doing anything untoward since his bbc interview & Epstein's death is limited
They'll be wanting indemnities to open up
I wouldn't be surprised if the higher ups aren't averse to some unfortunate leakage to the media
There's more than one way to get stuff out in the open
& once it is out in the open they need to investigate it, thats a shame
Yes it's deceptively vague (no doubt intentionally) exactly what "consider carefully" actually means  :unknown:

The Metropolitan Police said it was "identifying and contacting" former and serving protection officers and asking them to "consider carefully" whether they had seen or heard anything.

So if someone is aware of something or they turned a blind eye which i'm assuming they often did exactly where do they now stand  :unknown:
I'm thinking it must feel distinctly different for an officer whose still serving compared to someone whose retired but even so can they now spill the beans on having seen a "Youngish" looking girl being taken into his room  :unknown:

As you say Randy is well known for treating and talking to staff like shit and i'm wondering whether that also extended to his protection officers, if it did then there may be quite a few rubbing their hands together with glee about now getting their revenge after 20+ years.
As an ex boss of mine once said "Be careful who you piss off on the way up as you may meet them again on the way back down"


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My take on 'consider carefully' is that they would rather not have officers come forward opening up
They could have announced for officers to come forward if anything leave it at that
Usually when the police are appealing for info on whatever it is they include wording like 'however small you might consider it may be'

For the past two decades they've been conveniently looking in the wrong direction / not looking at all
& the royal protection unit have kept ultra tight lipped
If anyone thinks that the police haven't been giving AMW preferential treatment they are clueless
Suddenly TVP are in the spotlight & are having to rapidly play catch up

What needs to be remembered is despite their protestations to the contrary misogyny is embedded in the police especially in the older higher ups some of the old duffers could be thinking well he hasnt really done anything wrong
Me thinks they'll be praying that no one comes forward so they can announce they've found no evidence
Close protection officers are skilled in situational awareness so to suggest that they saw nothing on the island in New York etc is naieve
They'll be much preferring to dutifully report back to the King that Operation Look The Other Way a complete success finding the square root of ...  :thumbsup: phew TFFT

If it comes out that there were situations which looking back clearly weren't acceptable they drop themselves in the shit for not having done anything about it at the time
They have the opportunity to go one of two ways:
1 - we did see stuff & [regretfully - well learn from this - blah blah] chose not to do anything about or
2 - we were so clueless we didn't have a scooby
Which would they prefer to admit to ?
It could be both different places times etc

I don't consider TVP to be neutral too many connections on many levels
What we need is an independent police force doing the investigations
I have the perfect solution = The French Police, they'll be asbsolutely perfect not much !




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I don't really see the point of passing legislation to remove him from the succession ;(although he undoubtedly deserves it).
He's 9th in line - the chances of all 8 of those in front of him snuffing it before he does must be massively against.  :unknown:

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I don't really see the point of passing legislation to remove him from the succession ;(although he undoubtedly deserves it).
He's 9th in line - the chances of all 8 of those in front of him snuffing it before he does must be massively against.  :unknown:

Exactly, a pointless exercise. 

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I reckon thats just "Lets rub his nose in his shit".

To humilate him more..

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And herein (IMO) lies the issue of having too many distinct threads on the same / similar subject, exactly how many threads do we end up with when actually 1 will suffice  :unknown:
Why limit it to UK and world, why not have UK; Europe; N America; S America; Asia; Africa  :unknown:

Where does it stop, we have separate review boards for standard punts; TS punts and massage but what about sub boards for all of those based on ethnicity white; black; Asian  :unknown:

You just end up creating a monster  :thumbsdown:

On the contrary!  You would get rid of the monster (the unwieldy portmanteau politics thread).

I'm not suggesting new boards.  Just more flexibility in allowing "stand-alone" political threads on the Off Topic Chat board.

There are 17 threads which have been posted on this board either today or yesterday. 

Silly topics (or those no-one is interested in) soon drop out of sight.  Worthwhile topics climb back up the list.

Allowing more "stand-alone" threads wouldn't inconvenience anyone.  There are masses of different stand-alone threads already, often on trivial matters.

If political themes were allowed stand-alone threads, you would destroy the monster – while natural selection would continue to mean that redundant or pointless threads gradually disappear.

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On the contrary!  You would get rid of the monster (the unwieldy portmanteau politics thread).

I'm not suggesting new boards.  Just more flexibility in allowing "stand-alone" political threads on the Off Topic Chat board.

There are 17 threads which have been posted on this board either today or yesterday. 

Silly topics (or those no-one is interested in) soon drop out of sight.  Worthwhile topics climb back up the list.

Allowing more "stand-alone" threads wouldn't inconvenience anyone.  There are masses of different stand-alone threads already, often on trivial matters.

If political themes were allowed stand-alone threads, you would destroy the monster – while natural selection would continue to mean that redundant or pointless threads gradually disappear.
It's very clear that political posts are only allowed on the dedicated political thread, this was decided when the political thread was introduced. We could just go back to a total ban on politics or even remove the whole off topic section if it causes too many issues.

Why not leave things as they are with politics on the politics thread and anything else in the normal off topic section?

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It's very clear that political posts are only allowed on the dedicated political thread, this was decided when the political thread was introduced. We could just go back to a total ban on politics or even remove the whole off topic section if it causes too many issues.

Why not leave things as they are with politics on the politics thread and anything else in the normal off topic section?

Agreed

Its just a shame that I miss the odd nugget in the politics thread because of all the dross - but I definitely don't want that dross muddying up other threads

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I don't really see the point of passing legislation to remove him from the succession ;(although he undoubtedly deserves it).
He's 9th in line - the chances of all 8 of those in front of him snuffing it before he does must be massively against.  :unknown:
I see it as inevitable however not until investigations have concluded
IMO "The Firm" will be quite happy to do this if it means their public opinion goes up slightly as they've "Done the right thing", and right now they need anything they can get

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I reckon thats just "Lets rub his nose in his shit".

To humilate him more..
Just like he's rubbed other peoples noses in shit most of his life

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I reckon thats just "Lets rub his nose in his shit".

To humilate him more..

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Starmer trying to appear to be ahead of the curve & in tune with the nation, trying
A very helpful distraction AMW keeping Labour off the front pages
Not a political post whichever party in power & under pressure would be breathing a sigh of relief, for a while anyways

& if it is to humiliate him ideal
Just like arresting him on his birthday
Blew a big hole in his birthday plans to maybe have a teddy bear picnic, well he hasn't got anyone else to be with him
His 50+ teddy bears apparently have to be arranged in a certain order on his bed after it is made or he goes off at the deep end
The staff * have a picture to make sure no errors to avoid him going into a rage at them
All but one of the teddy bears are still at Royal Lodge he must be missing them already
He does have a favourite with him @ Sandringham, he was allowed one bless
How weird is that something definitely not right there

* numerous staff have apparently refused to go to Sandringham with him coz he's such a cunt and it would be working away from where they live famility etc
I can't see the firm getting shot of them anytime soon so they've not got a job no money coming in this could be disastrous

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This is the Royal Family playing Russian roulette, if Andrew goes down then the hammer is going to fall on a full chamber.

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Can anyone expain why he has to have "staff"

Can't he cook his own dinner like any pensioner would have to?. No bugger in Windsor whats to make the tirip to the arse end of nowhere.

Stirkes me he's a grade spoilt cunt. Hope he is convicted and has to do time perhaps some of the older senior lags will have him working for them!.

Somehow suspect the firm will prevent it mores the pity.

Suppose his ex bint will be after some more loot before long and where does his money come from anyway big bro bailing him out?.

Can understand his "exile" good place for it don't think theres a bloody pub in the area anyway...
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Suppose his ex bint will be after some more loot before long and where does his money come from anyway big bro bailing him out?.

Can understand his "exile" good place for it don't think theres a bloody pub in the area anyway...
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 The ex is no doubt fully aware that he has little money now, so why would she come after him for it?
My understanding is that he has a pension from his days in the RN plus an "allowance" from His Majesty both amounts are (afaik) not available to the public.
As for pubs, I was in that area for a couple of weeks last year, and there are a couple not too far away, but I don't suppose he'd be welcome in them.

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On Friday I wrote on this thread: "On the one hand, no-one, I imagine, would dissent from the view that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor needs to be treated like anyone else being investigated for criminal behaviour.  On the other hand, that is an impossibility, in view of his status (or, rather, ex-status)."

In yesterday's Times, the paper’s lead opinion columnist on Saturdays, Fraser Nelson, expatiated on the same theme in a more informed and lucid way than I could.

Under the heading, “Spectacular arrests don’t always serve justice", the sub-heading “Our judicial tradition is one of operational independence, evidential thresholds and restraint — we should hold on to it”, and the out-quote “A dawn raid is not a neutral administrative step but a public event”, Nelson’s article included this:
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It is now ten years since Leon Brittan, a Thatcher government minister, died while under investigation for paedophilia. The police, then, had been urged into action by Tom Watson, Brown’s protégé, who used parliament to amplify allegations from a fantasist who was later imprisoned for making it all up.

Lord Bramall, former head of the armed forces who had waded ashore on D-Day, was in his nineties, caring for his terminally ill wife, when officers in forensic suits arrived to search his home on the same baseless grounds.

This was panic under political pressure. It has a close cousin: spectacle in the name of equality. I’m no fan of Nicola Sturgeon but was not sure why police sealed off her house like a murder scene when her husband faced investigation for fraud.

The understandable need by police to show that the powerful are not above the law always risks being twisted so those in the public eye are hit far harder, almost as a performance. Perhaps the most notorious example of this was the raid on Cliff Richard’s house on paedophilia charges, televised by a BBC helicopter. He was rich, powerful — and entirely innocent.

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Nelson’s examples are people who were innocent (apart from Sturgeon’s husband), while the e-mails AMV exchanged with Epstein on financial matters strongly suggest that AMW is not.

However there is more than a suspicion that the police may have been “grandstanding” when they came for AMW.   Behaviour from which they are far from immune.  Others on this thread have also questioned the justification for the police raid in which he was arrested. 

More widely, there remains something unsettling about the treatment of AMW in much of the National Press and the broadcast media – an unpleasant relish in kicking a man when he is down.

Justice needs to be served, and seen to be served.  It is not healthy, however, when vindictiveness, malice and spite become part of the process. 

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AMW is the gift that keeps on giving
Had a look on sky news app which previews the next days papers [testerday evening for today]
Highlights include
- using tax payer funded PJs & raf bases to meet up with JE [Gordon Brown has kicked this off  :thumbsup:]
- AMW & Mandy to be investigated for treason
- an inquiry into the role of the royal police protection [RPP], potential them getting too close to AMW   [edit:  obvious or what  :rolleyes:]
- RPP officers [two] being used to provide security for a private dinner held by JE in New York [for guests incl. AMW *] likening them to bouncers / doormen
* i think it highly likely that the RPP will know exactly who was on the guest list [they'd be doing a shit job if they didn't] & this info needs to come out

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Bless him AMW having a rant

Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor tried to talk himself out of trouble by begging, “I’m the Queen’s second son, you can’t do this to me,” as he was kicked out of Royal Lodge, it has been claimed.
The ex-prince’s desperate plea came when he was evicted from the Windsor mansion to Sandringham.
A royal insider told The Sun on Sunday: “He refused to leave or take any responsibility.
“When he was told to get out he was so arrogant and deluded he repeatedly shouted, ‘But I’m the Queen’s second son, you can’t do this to me’.


A quick thinking member of staff maybe helped solve the situation by fetching his favourite teddy
Its like when you have a two year old [full on terrible twos] & you're trying to get the little fucker in his car seat to go somewhere & they're not having it 

AMW was forced to do a midnight flit to Sandringham
Word is that the King went ballistic with pictures of AMW in the media out riding & then in his Range Rover smiling & waiving to onlookers without a care in the world
This balloon about to go bang

AMW has got form for driving like a cunt [as well as being one]
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DUKE OF HAZARD Oblivious Prince Andrew nearly runs over dog as mortified owner sprints to save pet a day after shock Netflix show airs
The currant bun on form with their headlines  :thumbsup:
AMW thinks it hilarious nearly running over someone's dog

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"RPP officers [two] being used to provide security for a private dinner held by JE in New York [for guests incl. AMW *] likening them to bouncers / doormen
* i think it highly likely that the RPP will know exactly who was on the guest list [they'd be doing a shit job if they didn't] & this info needs to come out"

They would have had a guest list, as that would have been used as part of the risk assessment - for example, if a guest was known for anti royalty views, the officers would have been in the room, rather than standing outside.
The use of them would have been justified just because AMW was there - it becomes dubious if it could be proven that they were paid 'off the book' in addition to their regular pay.

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As mentioned in the two posts above, the role of officers from Royal Police Protection is now coming under a great deal of scrutiny.

One feels a bit sorry for them.  They were damned if they did and damned if they didn't.

It would have been all but impossible for them to tell a bossy and overbearing prince that such-and-such a procedure (for example, allowing unnamed young women into Buckingham Palace) was unacceptable – or to “tell tales” to their bosses about inappropriate carryings-on chez Epstein or Maxwell.

And a separate point.

It is worth noting that, while Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor may – currently – be only eighth in line to the throne, if the then Prince Charles had died at any time during the two decades between AMW's birth (on 19 February 1960) and just before Prince William was conceived (in late September 1981), AMW would now be King!

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As mentioned in the two posts above, the role of officers from Royal Police Protection is now coming under a great deal of scrutiny.

One feels a bit sorry for them.  They were damned if they did and damned if they didn't.

It would have been all but impossible for them to tell a bossy and overbearing prince that such-and-such a procedure (for example, allowing unnamed young women into Buckingham Palace) was unacceptable – or to “tell tales” to their bosses about inappropriate carryings-on chez Epstein or Maxwell.

And a separate point.

It is worth noting that, while Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor may – currently – be only eighth in line to the throne, if the then Prince Charles had died at any time during the two decades between AMW's birth (on 19 February 1960) and just before Prince William was conceived (in late September 1981), AMW would now be King!
I'm sure that the RPO's would have all talked between themselves and probably fed information upwards so they were aware of certain things, whether this was purely off the record or actually documented is another question entirely.

I'm reminded of John Bindon and Princess Margaret, Bindon was an actor but also a violent man with London underworld connections and a couple of spells inside yet he was attending the same Caribbean island retreat parties as she was.
There was a documentary about this a few years ago and it was said that the RPO's were phoning back asking for more information about this guy and had a real quandary about this guy as they couldn't really tell Margaret that she had to get off the island and also couldn't really chuck him off as it would cause a real scene.

I believe once back in Blighty he was "Persuaded" not to attend again  ;) 

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I'm sure that the RPO's would have all talked between themselves and probably fed information upwards so they were aware of certain things, whether this was purely off the record or actually documented is another question entirely.

I'm reminded of John Bindon and Princess Margaret, Bindon was an actor but also a violent man with London underworld connections and a couple of spells inside yet he was attending the same Caribbean island retreat parties as she was.
There was a documentary about this a few years ago and it was said that the RPO's were phoning back asking for more information about this guy and had a real quandary about this guy as they couldn't really tell Margaret that she had to get off the island and also couldn't really chuck him off as it would cause a real scene.

I believe once back in Blighty he was "Persuaded" not to attend again  ;)
Wasn't he the bloke rumoured to have an unfeasably large penis ?

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Were "we" and by that I mean our leaders naive ?

what did they think  AMW was doing as trade ambassador ?  he wasnt exactly knowledgeable about the products - he was using his influence and large circle of "friends"

How did they think he acquired these "friends"? Most of us think that Starmer getting free tickets to Taylor Swift is a bit grubby but they could be bought by you and me What about tickets to the Royal box at Wimbledon etc - which aren't available to you and me at any price
did they really think that these powerful people were squeaky clean ?  What did they expect him to do if something dodgy happened at one of those parties ?  make an excuse and leave?
Did we really think we provided AMW & wife with enough £££s to move in these circles with Billionaires like Bezos who blow $50million on a wedding

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Were "we" and by that I mean our leaders naive ?
what did they think  AMW was doing as trade ambassador ?  he wasnt exactly knowledgeable about the products - he was using his influence and large circle of "friends"
How did they think he acquired these "friends"? Most of us think that Starmer getting free tickets to Taylor Swift is a bit grubby but they could be bought by you and me What about tickets to the Royal box at Wimbledon etc - which aren't available to you and me at any price
did they really think that these powerful people were squeaky clean ?  What did they expect him to do if something dodgy happened at one of those parties ?  make an excuse and leave?
Did we really think we provided AMW & wife with enough £££s to move in these circles with Billionaires like Bezos who blow $50million on a wedding

Unsurprisingly there is much about all of this in today’s Sunday Times, including a long piece (four-fifths of a broadsheet page) entitled "Will the Establishment be torn apart?” and another piece (half a page) entitled "The business chiefs, academics and politicians felled by Epstein fallout". 

The second article names more than 20 individuals, mostly Americans.  It is staggering how many rich and powerful people were caught up in Epstein's web.  Simply staggering.

A very sad casualty of this imbroglio is likely to be the reputation of Queen Elizabeth II, whose turning a blind eye to the antics of her second son (and whose apparent bankrolling of most of the Virginia Giuffre pay-off) are becoming harder for people to accept.  The King apparently never thought it was a good idea that Andrew should be a trade envoy,

Although I don’t agree with the voices that suggest the monarchy is doomed, I fear that it is damaged and diminished.

Some commentators say it is more serious than the Abdication crisis, others not.   Only time will tell.  Not least because it clearly has some way to run.

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Wasn't he the bloke rumoured to have an unfeasably large penis ?
According to Wiki, he did indeed:-
 "The princess later denied meeting Bindon, despite pictures of them next to one another.[citation needed] During this time Bindon gained the nickname "Big John", due to the reported size of his penis.[7] Apparently demonstrated on multiple occasions over decades, when inebriated, Bindon was able to hang five half-pint beer glasses from his manhood.[3]"

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While there was probably some royal prodding I assume that the governments of the time actually appointed AMW as trade envoy and organised many of the trips - although presumably not to Epstein Island

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While there was probably some royal prodding I assume that the governments of the time actually appointed AMW as trade envoy and organised many of the trips - although presumably not to Epstein Island

Yes, Tony Blair appointed him on the recommendation of Mandelson. Jack Straw (Forieign Office) and Patricia Hewitt (Trade & Industry) were the relevant ministers who signed off on it at the time.

It is alleged that Prince Charles tried to block his appointment at the time as “a disaster waiting to happen”.



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I see The Sun is speculating that Sarah Ferguson may be prepared to reveal stuff if the price is right:-
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Two news items this morning on the subject:

AMW charged massages against his taxpayer-funded expenses while away as trade envoy. Civil servants who handled the expense claims thought it wrong but paid up anyway.

AMW is furious that his 'staff' will comprise just two - a chef and a valet, and they have been told that he must be addressed as "sir".

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AMW is furious that his 'staff' will comprise just two - a chef and a valet, and they have been told that he must be addressed as "sir".

hopefully spelt "cur"

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Two news items this morning on the subject:

AMW charged massages against his taxpayer-funded expenses while away as trade envoy. Civil servants who handled the expense claims thought it wrong but paid up anyway.

AMW is furious that his 'staff' will comprise just two - a chef and a valet, and they have been told that he must be addressed as "sir".

Cant the fucker cook like most everyone else ?
What does he need a valet for ?, he won't be going anywhere far
I can't see Wills & Kate inviting him round
Maybe off to see his bruvva for yet another bollocking
I suggest he doesn't go anywhere near Tyndall unless he wants a pasting
Suppose he'll need a suit white shirt to attend Court thats about it 

Offline myothernameis

What does he need a valet for ?, he won't be going anywhere far

If Andrew is sent to prison, will his valet accompany him, to prison  :sarcastic: :scare:



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Sarah Ferguson was exposed accepting £40k as an advance of £500k to 'open doors' through access to AMW (at the time a UK Trade Envoy). Did AMW know nothing of this arrangement? Did the journalist just strike lucky first time? (presumably there would have been a reason to try the sting...)

The scandal was monetised through a book and interview tour....leading to this interview. At four mins,  the interviewer starts to drill into her questionable narrative - confusingly, she states she betrayed herself because she believed the 'access for cash' was genuine. 

When she is questioned about the timing of the return of the £40k advance she becomes irate as seemingly she thinks she did the right thing by returning the money but will not state when it was returned...she appears to think she acted honourably in returning the money.

A bit like AMW telling Emily Maitlis he was doing the right thing when foregoing pen, paper, post, telegram, email, carrier pigeon, telephone - and visiting Jeffery Epstein for four days to tell him they could not remain in contact - clearly not the case as released files now show.

Sarah does state that she has been a good mother - however bringing scandal to her family through questionable relationships, greed, dishonesty, stupidity and finally friendship with a convicted paedophile are not good qualities for any parent. She also says that she doesn't want to look back at the mistakes she has made in the past so that should stop anyone asking anything further...

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Friendship? It looks like she, Epstein, Maxwell and the Andrew formally known as prince were in some kind of partner swapping merry-go-round, with the ginger moneysponge actually playing hostess at some of the Epstein events. Add to that the daughters being taken along as well and you do get the impression that they may well have been pimped out at these events by the Duchess

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Add to that the daughters being taken along as well and you do get the impression that they may well have been pimped out at these events by the Duchess
If they were, at least no-one will be popping up saying "I shagged a Royal" in the papers.

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Brilliant thing to do

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It must be the first time someone's sneaked a picture into a gallery  :D

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Offline thimble29

I don't really see the point of passing legislation to remove him from the succession ;(although he undoubtedly deserves it).
He's 9th in line - the chances of all 8 of those in front of him snuffing it before he does must be massively against.  :unknown:
To play devil's advocate, at what point would you remove him? 6th? 5th? 3rd? Will's side of the family often travel together.
I think they pass the legislation as a matter of sensible tidying up, set the precedent (or reiterate it) and move on. It's only a big deal if people make it a big deal

Offline myothernameis

I don't really see the point of passing legislation to remove him from the succession ;(although he undoubtedly deserves it).
He's 9th in line - the chances of all 8 of those in front of him snuffing it before he does must be massively against.  :unknown:

I would have thought, would it not be easier if King Charles put this question to Andrew, and ask him to sign some sort of document