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Simon S

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In fact I'm so angry about her attitude, if I knew who she was I'd call Social Services.

Offline Sedlmayer

Has anyone ever reported a prostitute to Social Services for not minding if her under-age daughter has sex with a much-older nonce so long as she uses a condom..... :wackogirl:?

Offline sushi

In fact I'm so angry about her attitude, if I knew who she was I'd call Social Services.
+1

password02

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Well clearly you haven't>>> :crazy:

yes I know - Sorry keep coming back to read updates !!! :crazy:

Andrew Sanderson

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Andrew mate - I think you are losing the battle - thread has been totally de railed in 5 different directions !!! Not sure how & Why but unlikely to get back to the original OP - I have stopped reading !!! :unknown:

I'm with you there.
Thought I'd give it a try though!

unclesweetheart

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I have a 17 year old daughter who is definitely not mature enough for a boy friend - even a platonic one. People mature at different rates. Sienna is the only one who can determine the justice in this situation. She was clearly mature enough at 12 to lose her virginity and not be concerned and now when old enough to have children of her own understands that the child has rights and its own mind and would be able to determine whether a relationship is technical or real abuse... None of us knows the full circumstances and therefore the only one who can have a valid interpretation of the events is the person involved.

There can't be anything "technical" about the abusive nature of sex between a 12 year old and a 24 year old. The 24 year old must have known that at the time, unless he was mentally sub-normal. Sienna says - or implies - that at 12 she was mature enough for sex. Ok. But losing your virginity at 12 to a boy of 14 (say) is one thing: to lose it to a 24 year old is something else altogether. In one case it's kids playing around - not a great idea but there's some equality there and maybe even some mutuality. An adult engaging in sex with a child is a paedophile. And therefore a criminal. As well as dangerous.

Sienna_Bronze

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Due to a dusty phone sienna is just winding people up on here as she has duck all else to do  :hi:

My phone is off at the moment, I don't work weekends.

Offline finn5555

My phone is off at the moment, I don't work weekends.

Sienna as suspected you are full of shit  :wackogirl:

Sienna_Bronze

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Sienna as suspected you are full of shit  :wackogirl:

And what do you have to back this up. Other than the fact you don't agree with me of course?

Offline finn5555

And what do you have to back this up. Other than the fact you don't agree with me of course?

Read back your posts that's the last I'm saying on the matter  :hi:

Offline socks

Sienna I'd accept Jimmyredcab's world view willingly before defending a 24 year old paedo who took advantage of a 12 year old and raped her!!! We're as varied a bunch of liberals, racists, homophobes, perverts, socialists, fascists, etc etc as you'll ever find on here, yet we all agree you've got to stop defending this cunt, nor should you feel any need to defend your actions, or accept you had any role to play in this event. He took advantage of you, black and white, no grey, no doubt. It doesn't matter what you did at 12 you should not have been used for sex by a 24 year old. He is vile and disgusting and shameful.

Dusktildawn

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Sienna-next you'll be saying your rape had no impact in your career choice  :wackogirl:

Your as fucked up as the sick fucker who raped you

The sooner we can find your identity and report you to protect your children the better  :thumbsup:

Offline OakTree

Sienna-next you'll be saying your rape had no impact in your career choice

Actually that's an interesting point and certainly something to consider.

Dusktildawn

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Actually that's an interesting point and certainly something to consider.
We're all thinking it  ;) :crazy:

Offline Dani

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At the end of the day we all know the guy who had sex with a 12 year old is a sick mother F**ker and should be hung by his bollocks.  However we all also agree that Sienna was abused and even if she disagrees how on earth can giving her abuse over it be helpful in anyway?
Perhaps she feels it easier to deal with by believing she was mature enough and if that helps then so be it.  Some abuse survivors do find a way to justify it to help them cope with what has happened.  what possible use is having a go at her and making her feel a victim?
I think the person who went through the abuse is allowed to justify it any way they want if it helps them get on with life

However I have a daughter and whilst I did speak to her about birth control etc if an adult tried to have sex with her I would castrate the bastard before the police got near him and would not in any way at all think its ok.  All 12 year old girls think they are mature but we know they are not.  At 12 they have either just entered or recently entered puberty and have no control over their hormones let alone their mental well being. A 12 year old may consent to sex but she is not fully aware of what she is actually consenting too as at that age she wont be thinking about her future mental well being.  Hence a Law being set that takes away her right to agree as she doesn't know just what she is agreeing too.
I have to believe that Sienna saying she would just give her daughter condoms etc is her just saying it to save face and would in fact report the guy to the police straight away and get her daughter emotional support as I cant and do not want to believe any half decent mother would think any man doing this to their 12 year old daughter is acceptable in any way at all. 

I have said before on this subject the man involved is a peado who groomed this and probably many other girls and needs to be locked up but having a go at the woman who was groomed and then abused is not going to help anyone but may well end up making the person who was a victim feel much worse. 

Andrew Sanderson

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At the end of the day we all know the guy who had sex with a 12 year old is a sick mother F**ker and should be hung by his bollocks.  However we all also agree that Sienna was abused and even if she disagrees how on earth can giving her abuse over it be helpful in anyway?
Perhaps she feels it easier to deal with by believing she was mature enough and if that helps then so be it.  Some abuse survivors do find a way to justify it to help them cope with what has happened.  what possible use is having a go at her and making her feel a victim?
I think the person who went through the abuse is allowed to justify it any way they want if it helps them get on with life

However I have a daughter and whilst I did speak to her about birth control etc if an adult tried to have sex with her I would castrate the bastard before the police got near him and would not in any way at all think its ok.  All 12 year old girls think they are mature but we know they are not.  At 12 they have either just entered or recently entered puberty and have no control over their hormones let alone their mental well being. A 12 year old may consent to sex but she is not fully aware of what she is actually consenting too as at that age she wont be thinking about her future mental well being.  Hence a Law being set that takes away her right to agree as she doesn't know just what she is agreeing too.
I have to believe that Sienna saying she would just give her daughter condoms etc is her just saying it to save face and would in fact report the guy to the police straight away and get her daughter emotional support as I cant and do not want to believe any half decent mother would think any man doing this to their 12 year old daughter is acceptable in any way at all. 

I have said before on this subject the man involved is a peado who groomed this and probably many other girls and needs to be locked up but having a go at the woman who was groomed and then abused is not going to help anyone but may well end up making the person who was a victim feel much worse.


Ditto


Have a quick look here for more of the same

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=30838.1325

Offline akauya

I have a 17 year old daughter who is definitely not mature enough for a boy friend - even a platonic one. People mature at different rates. Sienna is the only one who can determine the justice in this situation. She was clearly mature enough at 12 to lose her virginity and not be concerned and now when old enough to have children of her own understands that the child has rights and its own mind and would be able to determine whether a relationship is technical or real abuse... None of us knows the full circumstances and therefore the only one who can have a valid interpretation of the events is the person involved.

I was trying not to get involved on this thread as I believe Sienna is suffering by some kind of Stockholm Syndrome but the same can't be said about you.

No child at 12 is mature enough to give consent, she was clearly groomed by the bastard who had sex with her and made her believe that she was mature enough for sex. She was abused plain and simple, no matter how much she protests otherwise or you claim she was mature enough. She was a child!

Andrew Sanderson

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I was trying not to get involved on this thread as I believe Sienna is suffering by some kind of Stockholm Syndrome but the same can't be said about you.

No child at 12 is mature enough to give consent, she was clearly groomed by the bastard who had sex with her and made her believe that she was mature enough for sex. She was abused plain and simple, no matter how much she protests otherwise or you claim she was mature enough. She was a child!

Do you think you are helping an abused person by insisting she was abused?

Offline akauya

At the end of the day we all know the guy who had sex with a 12 year old is a sick mother F**ker and should be hung by his bollocks.  However we all also agree that Sienna was abused and even if she disagrees how on earth can giving her abuse over it be helpful in anyway?

Perhaps she feels it easier to deal with by believing she was mature enough and if that helps then so be it.  Some abuse survivors do find a way to justify it to help them cope with what has happened.  what possible use is having a go at her and making her feel a victim?

I think the person who went through the abuse is allowed to justify it any way they want if it helps them get on with life

[...]

I have said before on this subject the man involved is a peado who groomed this and probably many other girls and needs to be locked up but having a go at the woman who was groomed and then abused is not going to help anyone but may well end up making the person who was a victim feel much worse.

Exactly the reason why I said in my previous post that I believe Sienna is suffering from some kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

It would be good for those outraged at Sienna to remember that she is the victim here, no matter how much she protests otherwise or defends her abuser. Any adult can clearly see that but some seem to vent their anger at the victim.

Troubling.

Andrew Sanderson

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I was trying not to get involved on this thread as I believe Sienna is suffering by some kind of Stockholm Syndrome but the same can't be said about you.

No child at 12 is mature enough to give consent, she was clearly groomed by the bastard who had sex with her and made her believe that she was mature enough for sex. She was abused plain and simple, no matter how much she protests otherwise or you claim she was mature enough. She was a child!


Do you think you are helping an abused person by insisting so publicly that she was abused?

Offline OakTree


Do you think you are helping an abused person by insisting so publicly that she was abused?

It is a subject that she repeatedly brings up.

Offline akauya

Do you think you are helping an abused person by insisting she was abused?


Do you think you are helping an abused person by insisting so publicly that she was abused?

WTF?

Do you think you are helping an abused person by ignoring she was abused?

At least I'm not attacking her like some others are doing or you trying to ignore or change the subject.


Andrew Sanderson

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WTF?

Do you think you are helping an abused person by ignoring she was abused?

At least I'm not attacking her like some others are doing or you trying to ignore or change the subject.

I note you have evaded a direct answer to an easy question.  It only takes one word to answer

Andrew Sanderson

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It is a subject that she repeatedly brings up.

Wrong.
Analyse the threads in unbiased fashion.
Each comment she made was a reaction to accusatory posts.


Offline OakTree

Wrong.
Analyse the threads in unbiased fashion.
Each comment she made was a reaction to accusatory posts.


https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=44633.msg596302#msg596302
Just read the thread and you will see she volunteered that information in reference to being able to take more than six inches of cock. Get off your white horse and stop being a fucking smart arse.

Sloppyjoes

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I can see me reporting one, the bits I make that the HMRC don't see or what pay for my hobby, I'm probably not the only punter who does that either :rolleyes:

Offline PumpAction

Some very disturbing posts in this thread. A 24 year old having sex with a 12 year old is a vile animal. A sick son of a bitch who deserves to be tortured before rotting in jail. It's difficult to fathom this Sienna characters posts.

unclesweetheart

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Perhaps the reason why so many contributors to this thread have lost their bearings, as well as their human charity, is that a very large part of the buzz of fucking an escort is that it allows the punter to enjoy a taboo fantasy and in the case of the ever-popular schoolgirl role-play this plays directly on the specific taboo of fucking underage girls. (If not underage why is the role “schoolGIRL”?) It's a standard fantasy. Assuming Jeremy Kyle type moral outrage vis-a-vis Sienna stinks of the kind of hypocritical shite for which Mr. Kyle sets the standard. It also explains the rabid judgementalism.

Not knowing Sienna personally, I have no idea whether she's suffering from Stockholm Sickness. A public forum would scarcely be the place to decide that. But threats to find out her identity and report her to social services reek of the lynch mob and are despicable.

My knowledge of 12 year old girls is zero, so I have no idea if their self-knowledge is likely to be as secure as Sienna claims it was in her case in order to enable them to make consent meaningful. What Danni says, from experience, strikes me as much more plausible. However only Sienna knows what she felt/ thought, and the attacks on her as a parent are vile and cowardly and cheap. And if anyone making the attacks on her has fucked a girl who was young enough to have been his daughter (or granddaughter), or has got a girl to dress as a schoolgirl... then you are just a total, 100% hypocritical cunt.

Offline PumpAction

Consent meaningful? You can't give consent when you're 12 you twat. Your post is complete bollocks in so many ways.

Offline OakTree

Perhaps the reason why so many contributors to this thread have lost their bearings, as well as their human charity, is that a very large part of the buzz of fucking an escort is that it allows the punter to enjoy a taboo fantasy and in the case of the ever-popular schoolgirl role-play this plays directly on the specific taboo of fucking underage girls. (If not underage why is the role “schoolGIRL”?) It's a standard fantasy. Assuming Jeremy Kyle type moral outrage vis-a-vis Sienna stinks of the kind of hypocritical shite for which Mr. Kyle sets the standard. It also explains the rabid judgementalism.

Not knowing Sienna personally, I have no idea whether she's suffering from Stockholm Sickness. A public forum would scarcely be the place to decide that. But threats to find out her identity and report her to social services reek of the lynch mob and are despicable.

My knowledge of 12 year old girls is zero, so I have no idea if their self-knowledge is likely to be as secure as Sienna claims it was in her case in order to enable them to make consent meaningful. What Danni says, from experience, strikes me as much more plausible. However only Sienna knows what she felt/ thought, and the attacks on her as a parent are vile and cowardly and cheap. And if anyone making the attacks on her has fucked a girl who was young enough to have been his daughter (or granddaughter), or has got a girl to dress as a schoolgirl... then you are just a total, 100% hypocritical cunt.

For the life of me I cannot understand how you've linked school girl gantasy with the horror of what might or might not have happened to Sienna.
I also find your judgement of posters being hypocritical if they've fucked someone young enough to be their daughter or grandaughter rather odd. So you think its totally wrong for a punter who's sixty to pay for the services of a girl who's twenty?

Offline NIK

And if anyone making the attacks on her has fucked a girl who was young enough to have been his daughter (or granddaughter), or has got a girl to dress as a schoolgirl... then you are just a total, 100% hypocritical cunt.

I have fucked many young enough to be my daughter and maybe a few young enough to be my granddaughter. Certainly if I can ever punt again there will be more of the latter.

I have never got one to dress as a schoolgirl as this holds no interest for me whatsoever. However your post is bollocks as they are consenting adults who are being also paid for their consent.

Offline NIK

So you think its totally wrong for a punter who's sixty to pay for the services of a girl who's twenty?

There are actually a few who think this, mainly the ageing sisterhood as they are simply jealous.

As far as I'm concerned it's my money and regardless of whatever anyone says I will pay for whatever age I choose providing they are over the age of consent.

Quesadilla

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I am not white-knighting and quite prepared to weather the inevitable shit-storm that ensues.

I first masturbated when I was 11 years old. I loved it. From that moment on I thought about sex all the time.

I saw a movie at a young age - In Praise Of Older Women - about a boy probably my age who gets initiated into sex at an early age.  I fantasised about fucking my 11 year old classmates at school, my teachers even my aunts and female cousins.  I longed for it. Sure I was incredibly inexperienced and naive - but I remember really wanting that experience. If I had met an adult who would have initiated me sexually I would have welcomed it.  I would also not have considered this rape / paedophilia as I was insatiably curious about sex at that age.

Since then I met someone else who at age 11 was having sex with her brother who was a few years older than her. She initiated it, they were both curious, and they had sex together for years before realising it was considered "wrong".  The same girl a few years later, had a "family friend" try to sexually assault her and she escaped, reported it, and her family had the guy crippled (crate at the factory they work "accidentally" fell on him and shattered his legs).
 
She still maintains that the sex with her brother was consensual, but this "family friend" was a rapist / paedeo and got what he deserved. I totally agree with her analysis based on my own horniness at the same age. 

I also have a close friend who's parents divorced, and one of his mother's "boyfriends" sexually assaulted him - this of course was rape.

So I 100% do not condone paedophilia, rape, or incest - anything non-consensual.  But consent is not black and white and not bound simply by law. 

The "age of consent" itself is a local legal matter and variable. Across Europe it varies between 13 and 18! 

In 1275 the age of consent here in the UK was 12. It wasn't raised to 13 until 1875 and then to 16 before the turn of the century.

To some extent it is therefore an arbitrary number and hardly a universal law!  Of course it's designed to protect the young from abuse and I totally agree with the current age - but it doesn't allow for the fact that people mature differently.  If you are sexually curious even at a young age as I was and I suspect Sienna was - then it's totally different to being groomed and abused.  From my personal experience at least. 

There is always a spectrum of human experience and only Sienna can talk authoritatively about her own personal experience and very brave of her to be so public about it.

Bring on the shit storm.  :bomb:

Offline smiths

I have fucked many young enough to be my daughter and maybe a few young enough to be my granddaughter. Certainly if I can ever punt again there will be more of the latter.

I have never got one to dress as a schoolgirl as this holds no interest for me whatsoever. However your post is bollocks as they are consenting adults who are being also paid for their consent.

Absolutely, although I have asked adult WGs to dress as schoolgirls on ocassion, the clue is in the word adult, they were ALL consenting adults afaik and it was an adult i wanted not a child. A seemingly willing adult WG is nothing like a child which is sadly who nonces wish to abuse.

As to the thread question i pay my taxes and from that HMRC employ collectors whose job it is to ensure people who arent paying the tax they owe are investigated and do pay whats owed. So i leave it to them to catch any that are breaking the law.

Offline NIK

I am not white-knighting and quite prepared to weather the inevitable shit-storm that ensues.

I first masturbated when I was 11 years old. I loved it. From that moment on I thought about sex all the time.

I saw a movie at a young age - In Praise Of Older Women - about a boy probably my age who gets initiated into sex at an early age.  I fantasised about fucking my 11 year old classmates at school, my teachers even my aunts and female cousins.  I longed for it. Sure I was incredibly inexperienced and naive - but I remember really wanting that experience. If I had met an adult who would have initiated me sexually I would have welcomed it.  I would also not have considered this rape / paedophilia as I was insatiably curious about sex at that age.

Since then I met someone else who at age 11 was having sex with her brother who was a few years older than her. She initiated it, they were both curious, and they had sex together for years before realising it was considered "wrong".  The same girl a few years later, had a "family friend" try to sexually assault her and she escaped, reported it, and her family had the guy crippled (crate at the factory they work "accidentally" fell on him and shattered his legs).
 
She still maintains that the sex with her brother was consensual, but this "family friend" was a rapist / paedeo and got what he deserved. I totally agree with her analysis based on my own horniness at the same age. 

I also have a close friend who's parents divorced, and one of his mother's "boyfriends" sexually assaulted him - this of course was rape.

So I 100% do not condone paedophilia, rape, or incest - anything non-consensual.  But consent is not black and white and not bound simply by law. 

The "age of consent" itself is a local legal matter and variable. Across Europe it varies between 13 and 18! 

In 1275 the age of consent here in the UK was 12. It wasn't raised to 13 until 1875 and then to 16 before the turn of the century.

To some extent it is therefore an arbitrary number and hardly a universal law!  Of course it's designed to protect the young from abuse and I totally agree with the current age - but it doesn't allow for the fact that people mature differently.  If you are sexually curious even at a young age as I was and I suspect Sienna was - then it's totally different to being groomed and abused.  From my personal experience at least. 

There is always a spectrum of human experience and only Sienna can talk authoritatively about her own personal experience and very brave of her to be so public about it.

Bring on the shit storm.  :bomb:

Far from bringing on a shit storm, I think you make a lot of good points, and I recognise a lot of what you say. The age of consent is arbitrary and  even today varies in different countries. As you suggest however there is a difference between kids experimenting together (many of us will have done it at least to some extent) and considerably older people consciously 'grooming' them.
However such is the hysteria around 'paedophilia' these days, that, rather like bareback, it's difficult to have a sensible debate as some people scream 'paedophile' at the slightest opportunity. I often wonder what it is such people have to hide themselves.

It rather reminds me of the great Chris Morris and his satire Brass Eye, when he attempted to expose the nonsensical hysteria that was going on at the time, but the stupid media showed exactly why they deserved his mockery by getting totally the wrong end of the stick and suggested he was condoning paedophilia and calling him the 'sickest man in Britain.'
As I suggested elsewhere recently the word paedophile, is bandied about too often these days, not least by kids themselves influenced by the media, and it isn't even the correct term. Most 'offenders' are probably ephebophiles (interested in teens) rather than pre pubescent kids (paedophiles). Of course if they are below the age of consent in a particular country then it's an offence.  And there are cunts like Jimmy Savile who seem to show an interest in all age groups.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2014, 07:43:58 am by NIK »

n78

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Petite_kav researches becoming a pro on a punting site (not Saafe), makes an AW profile Christmas Day sans phone number, has feedback Boxing Day.  Her opening gambit is being reported for tax evasion would be a nightmare only to change track to her earnings being under the minimum tax threshold - no mention of National Insurance - and yet seasoned punters are queuing up to give her advice or openly flirt with her.  It is the season to be merry after all.

Something strange is going on, and at the very least it's touting. In a subtle way. But touting nevertheless.

A few pages back saying she's been giving the same phone number her family and friends have of her to random men paying for sex, but there's a need to maintain her privacy?! It's all an act and surprisingly it seems to be working.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2014, 07:47:02 am by n78 »

Quesadilla

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Far from bringing on a shit storm, I think you make a lot of good points, and I recognise a lot of what you say. The age of consent is arbitrary and  even today varies in different countries. As you suggest however there is a difference between kids experimenting together (many of us will have done it at least to some extent) and considerably older people consciously 'grooming' them.
However such is the hysteria around 'paedophilia' these days, that, rather like bareback, it's difficult to have a sensible debate as some people scream 'paedophile' at the slightest opportunity. I often wonder what it is such people have to hide themselves.

It rather reminds me of the great Chris Morris and his satire Brass Eye, when he attempted to expose the nonsensical hysteria that was going on at the time, but the stupid media showed exactly why they deserved his mockery by getting totally the wrong end of the stick and suggested he was condoning paedophilia and calling him the 'sickest man in Britain.'
As I suggested elsewhere recently the word paedophile, is bandied about too often these days, not least by kids themselves influenced by the media, and it isn't even the correct term. Most 'offenders' are probably ephebophiles (interested in teens) rather than pre pubescent kids (paedophiles). Of course if they are below the age of consent in a particular country then it's an offence.  And there are cunts like Jimmy Savile who seem to show an interest in all age groups.
Cheers for that Nik, yes totally agree there is a knee jerk reaction and of course it's there for a reason - I don't have kids but I have nephews, nieces and god children who I feel very protective of - but likewise I remember vividly my own childhood so I know kids awaken sexually much earlier than we as "grown ups" might like.

Not saying we shouldn't be protective but at the same time we need to protect our kids right to mature naturally even if that means experimenting with sex young - they can't remain innocent forever. Repressing their natural sexuality has consequences too, which I am only too well aware of from being raised by a strict Catholic mother who punished me for masturbating! 

Offline Bigus Dickus

a strict Catholic mother who punished me for masturbating!

Secret wanking in a busy household is a skill I acquired very early in life! Fuck knows how you got caught!

 :D

Offline monstar

I agree the age of consent is an arbitrary number, however teenagers and younger experimenting with each other is very different from a 24 year old adult having sex with a 12 year old child.

Q, you said that you would of welcomed an adult initiating sex with you at 11, but think of it the other way round - the adult who initiated with an 11 year old (although happy to consent in their mind), does that not make the adult a paedophile?

Offline iceraider

I fucked my 20 year old babysitter when i was 12. I came on to her because I was a horny little fucker.
No way i would ever class her a paedophile.
My choice and it was fucking awesome.

Offline PumpAction

Cheers for that Nik, yes totally agree there is a knee jerk reaction and of course it's there for a reason - I don't have kids but I have nephews, nieces and god children who I feel very protective of - but likewise I remember vividly my own childhood so I know kids awaken sexually much earlier than we as "grown ups" might like.

Not saying we shouldn't be protective but at the same time we need to protect our kids right to mature naturally even if that means experimenting with sex young - they can't remain innocent forever. Repressing their natural sexuality has consequences too, which I am only too well aware of from being raised by a strict Catholic mother who punished me for masturbating!

What are you talking about? So it's ok for a 24 year old to sleep with 12 year olds in order to "protect our kids right to mature naturally". They don't need to remain innocent forever. Just til 16 which is the age of consent in the UK.  There's also a huge difference between kids experimenting, although bizarrely your example is incestuous, and adults having sex with children. I'm assuming that because you think having an age of consent represses kids sexuality that you think there should not be one? 

Offline sushi

Children are by nature sexually curious, when a couple of kids of a similar age play doctors and nurses its normal, when a 24 year old man takes advantage of a sexually curious 12 year old girl thats criminal.
She must know now this man was wrong to have sex with her. But she defends him! What was just as disturbing was when she was asked what if it happened to her own kids, her reply? Check for pregnancy and sti's thats just what she would tell her prossie friends if their condom split. She is talking about her KIDS!
She has made it plain she sees nothing wrong with men having sex youngsters!!!( if they're willing  :dash:)
To me she's damaged goods and not fit to be a mother.
You can physco analyse her from now to next week but shes fucked up!.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2014, 10:13:02 am by sushi »

Offline Jimmyredcab



In 1275 the age of consent here in the UK was 12. It wasn't raised to 13 until 1875 and then to 16 before the turn of the century.


I expect they were burning witches in 1275.     :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

A 12 year old is a child, a 24 year old is an adult ----------------- that is not a grey area.     :thumbsdown:

petite_kav

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I think the reason that there is such disgust over the situation is:

1. The disparity of ages between a 12 year old GIRL and a 24 year old MAN. The two are in no way equals, much like how a couple of 12 year olds experimenting would be equal.

2. The fact that the situation has essentially blinded SB to the potential damage it could cause if it happened to her own children. For whatever reason she has made the situation acceptable in her head, so if her 12 year old came to her and said the same thing had happened she wouldn't act on it as most of us would.

The age of consent is arbitrary, but it was already in place for 100s of years when SB was born, there was no question as to the status of a 12 year old girl back in the 90s (or whenever she was 12) i.e. that of a person who is not able to consent to sex. The societal precedence had already been set, so no one can say that everyone involved in that situation didn't know she was a child, apart from the precocious 12 year old who thought she was an adult.

Which is why I don't understand why some people seem to be defending the coupling of a 12 year old and a 24 year old.

« Last Edit: December 28, 2014, 11:30:11 am by petite_kav »

Quesadilla

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Secret wanking in a busy household is a skill I acquired very early in life! Fuck knows how you got caught!

 :D
I didn't get caught per se mate it was a skill I mastered too, but my (massive) porn mag stash I hid under the panel of the panel bath and we had a flood so my mum had to take bath apart...the beating I got was nothing compared to the pain of watching years of porn being thrown in the bin. What a fucking awful waste!  :lol:

Quesadilla

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I think the reason that there is such disgust over the situation is:

1. The disparity of ages between a 12 year old GIRL and a 24 year old MAN. The two are in no way equals, much like how a couple of 12 year olds experimenting would be equal.

2. The fact that the situation has essentially blinded SB to the potential damage it could cause if it happened to her own children. For whatever reason she has made the situation acceptable in her head, so if her 12 year old came to her and said the same thing had happened she wouldn't act on it as most of us would.

The age of consent is arbitrary, but it was already in place for 100s of years when SB was born, there was no question as to the status of a 12 year old girl back in the 90s (or whenever she was 12) i.e. that of a person who is not able to consent to sex. The societal precedence had already been set, so no one can say that everyone involved in that situation didn't know she was a child, apart from the precocious 12 year old who thought she was an adult.

Which is why I don't understand why some people seem to be defending the coupling of a 12 year old and a 24 year old.
Because I know when I was a 12 year old boy I would have loved to have my cherry taken by a 24 year old woman.  We all can only speak reliably about our own experience, and that is my genuine personal experience - no amount of rhetoric about "societal precedence" and "age of consent" can change that. 

I don't see why that would be any different for a girl as I say I know a girl very well who was very sexually active from a similar age and always loved sex. 

There are no absolutes of right and wrong - what society imposes on us as laws are simply best guesses to try and protect the vulnerable but we are all individuals and make our own choices - including about which laws to stick to and which to break. 

I am sure many here are quite happy to pick and choose which laws they 100% abide by, which they think are bollocks, and which they sometimes stick to when it suits them - whether it be speeding, underage drinking, drink driving or drug taking for example.  I know from other threads that many here would not immediately quit punting if the law changed.  We all accept that WG's we see could potentially be trafficked, worst case maybe even underage - we can't be 100% sure and just "hope" we're not breaking the law. We all say we'd walk if we suspect such a thing but the risk doesn't stop us punting does it?

As I said before and reiterate - I 100% do not condone paedophilia, rape, or incest - anything non-consensual.  But consent is not black and white and not bound simply by law. 

Sienna_Bronze

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Because I know when I was a 12 year old boy I would have loved to have my cherry taken by a 24 year old woman.  We all can only speak reliably about our own experience, and that is my genuine personal experience - no amount of rhetoric about "societal precedence" and "age of consent" can change that. 

I don't see why that would be any different for a girl as I say I know a girl very well who was very sexually active from a similar age and always loved sex. 

There are no absolutes of right and wrong - what society imposes on us as laws are simply best guesses to try and protect the vulnerable but we are all individuals and make our own choices - including about which laws to stick to and which to break. 

I am sure many here are quite happy to pick and choose which laws they 100% abide by, which they think are bollocks, and which they sometimes stick to when it suits them - whether it be speeding, underage drinking, drink driving or drug taking for example.  I know from other threads that many here would not immediately quit punting if the law changed.  We all accept that WG's we see could potentially be trafficked, worst case maybe even underage - we can't be 100% sure and just "hope" we're not breaking the law. We all say we'd walk if we suspect such a thing but the risk doesn't stop us punting does it?

As I said before and reiterate - I 100% do not condone paedophilia, rape, or incest - anything non-consensual.  But consent is not black and white and not bound simply by law.

This 100% and put FAR better than I could have done! As I have repeatedly said I am talking about my own personal situation. I know how developed I was back then, what my attitude was like and the actual events surrounding the whole thing. My situation would not apply to all people under 16 or even under 18, but I don't condone rape or paedophiles and I wish people could see the difference.

yorkshire123

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Because I know when I was a 12 year old boy I would have loved to have my cherry taken by a 24 year old woman.  We all can only speak reliably about our own experience, and that is my genuine personal experience - no amount of rhetoric about "societal precedence" and "age of consent" can change that. 

But your looking at the situation in the way as SB, The problems isn't with the victim the problem is with the much older man who in my mind took advantage of a sexually vulnerable little girl.
If SB wishes to see what happened to her as ok then that's up to her in my opinion but fundamentally the nonce who took advantage should have had the full weight of the law brought upon him irrespective of SB's wishes or not.
Why the hell SB feels the need to bring this up so often beggars belief as she knows full well how much of an emotive subject it is  :unknown:

Sienna_Bronze

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You called me a porker which in my fat, hormonal mess made me put a sarky comment on in response. I've only ever brought it up once before, and considering what gets talked about on here I don't see why people have gone all mental over it tbh.