Irish kimm - Heathrow

[patelprat]

Oh god can we please kill this thread jumping to the top of the list all the time lol

SP doesn't wanna see you for her own reasons, yeah she should have definitely handled it in a better way (ie before you were already there), but no point to keep moaning here further, you've made your points, just move on. Has happened to me in the past too.

[EmmaJ]

still if I am so bad how do you explain the 13/13 positive feedback I have on aw.

I mean.....  I hate to say it, but you have more negatives overall then positive feedback on adultwork which everyone is aware can be unreliable due to the risk of having a negative back.

I understand you're line of thought when you say reports could be false however so can reviews on here (not that I'm saying this is) however it's the same thing.

[MLawro93]

Ultimately a SP can decline to see anyone for any reason. It works in reverse. As punters we pick and choose just as well. The best thing to do is to move on, especially in a scenario like this. There will always be those who don't take the hint, and still pester the escort.

Clearly you have a lot of reports against you OP, at least you aren't changing your details to get around the escorts screening process (as some obviously will do). If it was purely for something like time wasting, many escorts would take the chance, but for anything serious like BB, violence, etc, they simply won't risk it. Which is understandable.

[Garyhart]

Ultimately a SP can decline to see anyone for any reason. It works in reverse. As punters we pick and choose just as well. The best thing to do is to move on, especially in a scenario like this. There will always be those who don't take the hint, and still pester the escort.

Clearly you have a lot of reports against you OP, at least you aren't changing your details to get around the escorts screening process (as some obviously will do). If it was purely for something like time wasting, many escorts would take the chance, but for anything serious like BB, violence, etc, they simply won't risk it. Which is understandable.

Precisely, I’ve had to pay a deposit around 2/3 times because of this (these are SPs who usually don’t ask for it). His reports which I’m not aware of, but SPs are, clearly is more than this so I’m unsure why he’s acting as if multiple women are lying and punters like Patel prat will run to defend him.

[EmmaJ]

This is insane and good catch by doing your due diligence in advance. I’m sure the punter in this case would’ve said you just refused to see him for whatever minor reason and claimed his innocence in a review if you didn’t make him very aware of why you’re turning him down  (without mentioning his past messed up actions).

Can't be to careful in this game, and did make me think that he clearly knew actually what I've read for him not to even question it, likely had been refused before.

Unfortunately not everyone is the perfect client 

[patelprat]

punters like Patel prat will run to defend him.

Please clarify what you mean by this. Where am I defending him? I asked him to suck it up and move on from the thread.

[MaxVerstappen]

still if I am so bad how do you explain the 13/13 positive feedback I have on aw.

you have more negatives overall then positive feedback on adultwork

   

[Garyhart]

I mean.....  I hate to say it, but you have more negatives overall then positive feedback on adultwork which everyone is aware can be unreliable due to the risk of having a negative back.

I understand you're line of thought when you say reports could be false however so can reviews on here (not that I'm saying this is) however it's the same thing.

So he was questioning me with a lie of his the whole time? The jokes keep on writing themselves 

He said he has 13/13 positive but skipped out at least 14 negatives………..

[Garyhart]

still if I am so bad how do you explain the 13/13 positive feedback I have on aw.

An SP has just said that you have more negatives than positives on AW so answer that please. 

[Waterhouse]

still if I am so bad how do you explain the 13/13 positive feedback I have on aw.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=442695.msg4365171#msg4365171

[Mstar86]

I mean.....  I hate to say it, but you have more negatives overall then positive feedback on adultwork which everyone is aware can be unreliable due to the risk of having a negative back.

I understand you're line of thought when you say reports could be false however so can reviews on here (not that I'm saying this is) however it's the same thing.

Wow, this blew up…

Well Emma has confirmed what was suspected and if it was just BB reports, then I think she would have said? So I’m guessing it’s worse than that :-/

Also just to clarify, the “more negatives” are on multiple different platforms / groups I’m guessing, but AW he has all positive 13/13 feedback?

[EmmaJ]

Wow, this blew up…

Well Emma has confirmed what was suspected and if it was just BB reports, then I think she would have said? So I’m guessing it’s worse than that :-/

Also just to clarify, the “more negatives” are on multiple different platforms / groups I’m guessing, but AW he has all positive 13/13 feedback?

I don't really want to get into it to much because I don't want to break rules here or elsewhere.
What I will say is there is a mixture of different reasons highlighted from the reposts, some more so just he's attitude towards SPs and one of a more disgusting nature.

What would be interesting to know is out of the 13/13 feedback, is there a number of SP who decided not to review him at all?

Personally for me, if I come across a client that maybe made me feel uncomfortable or started boundary pushing them I may just block him rather then have the hassle of negatives back and fourth.

I think accountability is a big thing here as well, yeah everyone fucks up but if the same sort of things keep helping, then he shouldn't be sprised when SP refuse him.

[Garyhart]

Next post is what I modified - made an error. Apologies for the double post

[Garyhart]

This is a good reason why we have SPs on this site. It’s telling how now an SP who wasn’t involved in his review but can access his reports (thanks to him giving up info on his feedback) can now see that he wasn’t being truthful about the nature of his feedback as a whole.

He’s now gone silent on this thread as he was happy to keep questioning me and LLPunting and others who were naturally suspicious to the fact that one man kept on being rejected. It’s obvious to see that if not for an SP confirming what we all suspected, he’d still be pretending as if he’s the victim in all these rejections.

One bad report can be explained away by a punter but it’s now been confirmed that it’s multiple instances, hence he won’t be commenting on this thread anymore. It’s fair to say that he’ll be getting a lot more rejections from experienced SPs rather than the younger ones

[massagepuntingfan]

Just my 2p - probably best to leave the sleuthing to the mods. I can imagine them saying 'if you have a problem with the UKP member being talked about, report him and the mods will look into it'.

[Mstar86]

Just my 2p - probably best to leave the sleuthing to the mods. I can imagine them saying 'if you have a problem with the UKP member being talked about, report him and the mods will look into it'.

I agree but it was the keen eye of some members who noticed the throw away comments about SP’s not seeing him that set off alarm bells prior to this review.

Otherwise it would have been totally unfair on Irish Kim as we would have all scorned her for messing an innocent punter around and she’ll have a negative to her name. Now at least there is context to it all and her business won’t be affected.

[EmmaJ]

Just my 2p - probably best to leave the sleuthing to the mods. I can imagine them saying 'if you have a problem with the UKP member being talked about, report him and the mods will look into it'.

I have no problems with him being here after all it's a punting form for punters, I just wanted to highlight that sometimes there is more to the story then first meets the eye.

However as I do occasionally tour london, I have made notes of he's details just in case and if mods want to look into this I have the reports to hand.

[MissWolf]

I have no problems with him being here after all it's a punting form for punters, I just wanted to highlight that sometimes there is more to the story then first meets the eye.

However as I do occasionally tour london, I have made notes of he's details just in case and if mods want to look into this I have the reports to hand.

I will back Emma on this as I've also followed the breadcrumb trail 

[puntingking]

Message for Gurds


Hi mate 

Regarding this post -

yh is what it is.

May be a good way to cut back on number of escorts you see.

Some feedback I have on aw from some well reviewed girls:

"Lovely guy . Second meet . Can’t wait to see again"  ebony444

"Seen this guy twice, he's reliable and genuine. Great arms too "  baby ariel

"We always have a great time very intelligent and handsome x" lola may (now english lollie)

"Nice Guy, good body and clean xxx" dutch maroccan goddess

"Great guy had an amazing time! Hopefully see you again soon xx" brandi british

"I enjoy every meeting with this guy, he's a beautiful person inside and out" eng nicole

My advice is, never put information out there that would make you easily identifiable to sex workers. 

Some will not want to see you, because they would be scared of a bad review.
Some will not want to see you, because they would rather a review of your encounter with them to stay private between you and them.
Some will not want to see you, because they don't like the sps you have seen in the past.

Just my advice mate 

[gurds]

Tbh I am very good client. Have been described as good looking and fit by one and handsome by another, Spanish girl from Barcelona Jessica who I saw 5-6 yrs ago called me hot. Have even gotten some sex workers gifts in past.

Quite a few reports were complete lies made up from vivastreet. One English escort called English Annabel reported me as well as I booked her but then sent her email saying I was cancelling my booking as I had seen her negative reviews here. Then she made up lies about me. She's well known for making reports on clients on a regular basis.

A feedback of 13/13 positives on aw is very good. Have seen some of those girls multiple times. Some of those girls have told me I am a great guy and even hugged me after the meet e.g. ebony444. Some escorts over the yrs I've seen have even kissed me off the clock -  which says a lot as well. Think the smart escorts know that the aw feedback is more reliable.

Maybe I am narcissistic and can be a bit dominant and like to control the meeting, when you see escorts you are paying money and have a limited time so the focus is more on your pleasure and making the most of the time. This is what the escort Delilah damsel doesn't seem to understand. When you are paying money and under time constraints you can't expect to cultivate a connection out of a romantic movie with a complete stranger off the bat. Generally it's not designed to be the same as a proper meaningful connection that you would get when you don't hand over money

Like I say Dutch moroccan goddess initially refused to see me the first time I saw her based on my reports but after showing her my aw feedback she saw me and told me that I was great and she is amazed at how I had bad reports elsewhere.

She told me as well that her best client is someone with lots of bad reports which says a lot.

Never been violent, or done any malpractices with escorts. I started seeing escorts back in the year 2010 which is a long time ago now. By virtue of the law of large numbers when you see hundreds of escorts you will accrue bad reports by default .

I'm trying not to see too many escorts moving forward, not the healthiest behaviour in the first place to be honest. May be better to keep a smaller stable of escorts. But can be good here and there. Been fortunate that I am still in contact with the best looking girl in England as she was flattered by my positive review. She's currently off the table on aw but remains in touch with me. Says a lot as well.

[EmmaJ]

Tbh I am very good client. Have been described as good looking and fit by one and handsome by another, Spanish girl from Barcelona Jessica who I saw 5-6 yrs ago called me hot. Have even gotten some sex workers gifts in past.

Quite a few reports were complete lies made up from vivastreet. One English escort called English Annabel reported me as well as I booked her but then sent her email saying I was cancelling my booking as I had seen her negative reviews here. Then she made up lies about me. She's well known for making reports on clients on a regular basis.

A feedback of 13/13 positives on aw is very good. Have seen some of those girls multiple times. Some of those girls have told me I am a great guy and even hugged me after the meet e.g. ebony444. Some escorts over the yrs I've seen have even kissed me off the clock -  which says a lot as well. Think the smart escorts know that the aw feedback is more reliable.

Maybe I am narcissistic and can be a bit dominant and like to control the meeting, when you see escorts you are paying money and have a limited time so the focus is more on your pleasure and making the most of the time. This is what the escort Delilah damsel doesn't seem to understand. When you are paying money and under time constraints you can't expect to cultivate a connection out of a romantic movie with a complete stranger off the bat. Generally it's not designed to be the same as a proper meaningful connection that you would get when you don't hand over money

Like I say Dutch moroccan goddess initially refused to see me the first time I saw her based on my reports but after showing her my aw feedback she saw me and told me that I was great and she is amazed at how I had bad reports elsewhere.

She told me as well that her best client is someone with lots of bad reports which says a lot.

Never been violent, or done any malpractices with escorts. I started seeing escorts back in the year 2010 which is a long time ago now. By virtue of the law of large numbers when you see hundreds of escorts you will accrue bad reports by default .

I'm trying not to see too many escorts moving forward, not the healthiest behaviour in the first place to be honest. May be better to keep a smaller stable of escorts. But can be good here and there. Been fortunate that I am still in contact with the best looking girl in England as she was flattered by my positive review. She's currently off the table on aw but remains in touch with me. Says a lot as well.

This is a interesting response I'll be honest.

There are a lot of things here that don't really do you any favours in terms of painting yourself in a better light and
for the people who have suspicions about you and the things you say, will most definitely still hold the same views.

Unfortunately it is what it is.

But like you say, there are plenty of girls who will see you and other punters opinions won't change that.

That's it from me and good night   

[puntingking]

I'm trying not to see too many escorts moving forward.
May be better to keep a smaller stable of escorts. But can be good here and there. Been fortunate that I am still in contact with the best looking girl in England as she was flattered by my positive review. She's currently off the table on aw but remains in touch with me. Says a lot as well.

Keep your reviews up though mate.
Your reviews have provided a good service to this forum. May that continue. 

All the best moving forward 

[Garyhart]

Tbh I am very good client. Have been described as good looking and fit by one and handsome by another, Spanish girl from Barcelona Jessica who I saw 5-6 yrs ago called me hot. Have even gotten some sex workers gifts in past.

Quite a few reports were complete lies made up from vivastreet. One English escort called English Annabel reported me as well as I booked her but then sent her email saying I was cancelling my booking as I had seen her negative reviews here. Then she made up lies about me. She's well known for making reports on clients on a regular basis.

A feedback of 13/13 positives on aw is very good. Have seen some of those girls multiple times. Some of those girls have told me I am a great guy and even hugged me after the meet e.g. ebony444. Some escorts over the yrs I've seen have even kissed me off the clock -  which says a lot as well. Think the smart escorts know that the aw feedback is more reliable.

Maybe I am narcissistic and can be a bit dominant and like to control the meeting, when you see escorts you are paying money and have a limited time so the focus is more on your pleasure and making the most of the time. This is what the escort Delilah damsel doesn't seem to understand. When you are paying money and under time constraints you can't expect to cultivate a connection out of a romantic movie with a complete stranger off the bat. Generally it's not designed to be the same as a proper meaningful connection that you would get when you don't hand over money

Like I say Dutch moroccan goddess initially refused to see me the first time I saw her based on my reports but after showing her my aw feedback she saw me and told me that I was great and she is amazed at how I had bad reports elsewhere.

She told me as well that her best client is someone with lots of bad reports which says a lot.

Never been violent, or done any malpractices with escorts. I started seeing escorts back in the year 2010 which is a long time ago now. By virtue of the law of large numbers when you see hundreds of escorts you will accrue bad reports by default .

I'm trying not to see too many escorts moving forward, not the healthiest behaviour in the first place to be honest. May be better to keep a smaller stable of escorts. But can be good here and there. Been fortunate that I am still in contact with the best looking girl in England as she was flattered by my positive review. She's currently off the table on aw but remains in touch with me. Says a lot as well.

This is funny to read. They hug everyone after a meeting, so I’m not sure what this is supposed to indicate. Why should we believe your 13/13 positive feedback if an SP said majority of your feedback is actually negative? Surely in terms of probability, your 13 reviews are all also crap from these SPs (the way you claim multiple negative ones are?). So many parts here which don’t exonerate you at all and I’m sure asides from puntingking and Patel, most punters on this thread have already seen you and SPs confirm our not so great suspicions about you. You keep telling on yourself the more you type is all I’ll say for now

[patelprat]

I’m sure asides from puntingking and Patel

I am trying to keep out of this thread, but again you keep dropping my name in and not explaining why.
And irrespective of the concerns about the OP, I see you have a very judgemental and holier than thou attitude in your long responses, which also extends to those beyond just the OP.

[Waterhouse]

Your reviews have provided a good service to this forum.

Indeed… they highlight the barebacking SPs he’s supposedly been with, so we know to steer well clear. 

[patelprat]

Indeed… they highlight the barebacking SPs he’s supposedly been with, so we know to steer well clear. 

i'm not defending the OP at all, and i disagree with his BB activities and many other things, but he has uncovered a few good ones too. I remember his TOFTT of Vicky28 which made me (and many others) visit her.

[gurds]

To be honest I only have 2 BB reviews here. Make it sound like I have been raw dogging a whole village 

I get tested regularly and I've never had any STIs in my life. BB is arguably not even too risky if both people have clean results. There are lots of young girls nowadays that will have raw sex with random strangers without checking any results which is more reckless.

[MLawro93]

To be honest I only have 2 BB reviews here. Make it sound like I have been raw dogging a whole village 

I get tested regularly and I've never had any STIs in my life. BB is arguably not even too risky if both people have clean results. There are lots of young girls nowadays that will have raw sex with random strangers without checking any results which is more reckless.

Clean test results don't eliminate all risks from unprotected sex. There are important factors you're overlooking.

STI tests can't detect recent infections due to window periods. HIV may not show for up to 3 months, whilst other STIs like syphilis, hepatitis, and herpes have their own window periods. Someone could test negative whilst actually being infectious.

Unless contraception is being used or pregnancy is desired, this remains a significant consideration that "clean results" don't address. Standard STI panels also don't test for everything, HPV (which can cause cancer) and herpes often aren't included. Many people with herpes are asymptomatic and unaware they have it.

You're also relying on partners being honest about their testing, their activities since testing, and their interpretation of "clean" results. Testing is only a snapshot of status at that moment, not a guarantee going forward.

Comparing yourself favourably to others who may be reckless doesn't make your own risks disappear. Safer sex practices exist for good reason, even between tested partners.

[massagepuntingfan]

To be honest I only have 2 BB reviews here. Make it sound like I have been raw dogging a whole village 

I get tested regularly and I've never had any STIs in my life. BB is arguably not even too risky if both people have clean results. There are lots of young girls nowadays that will have raw sex with random strangers without checking any results which is more reckless.

Would you admit that you've been increasingly vocal about the topic of BB recently? If you don't want to be tarred with the BB brush 'unfairly' then don't talk about it so loosely.

[Mr Garmin]

As Gurds is now an ex-member I can only assume that Dave has been passed information on the nature of his negative reports.

[EmmaJ]

As Gurds is now an ex-member I can only assume that Dave has been passed information on the nature of his negative reports.

I was expecting them to have reached out for the reports however if they had them, it wasn't from me,
Perhaps they didn't need them, he was giving himself away all on his own.
Only the mods would know what the final strew was.

[JonasG]

Who's this so called best looking girl in England lol.

Is that an official title.

[Garyhart]

Who's this so called best looking girl in England lol.

Is that an official title.

  She was very good looking tbf, but that was a weird moment from him. The SP on her old profile link is someone new so there are no pics to show anymore

[puntingking]

I can see that gurds have been banned? I am not too sure if this is a temporary ban or a permanent ban. But why was he banned? 

[patelprat]

I can see that gurds have been banned? I am not too sure if this is a temporary ban or a permanent ban. But why was he banned? 

The "banned reason" against his name should tell you all you need to know.

[Garyhart]

I can see that gurds have been banned? I am not too sure if this is a temporary ban or a permanent ban. But why was he banned? 

He admitted by himself to having multiple altercations with SPs and maids. That alone shouldn’t be normalised / allowed plus I’m not entirely sure, but I’m assuming an SP or someone shared his multiple negative reports.

[puntingking]

The "banned reason" against his name should tell you all you need to know.

ok.
Maybe, It is to do with his adult work feedback or something cause I can't seem to find anything on ukp that suggests he is a boundary pusher. 
Unless I have missed something. 

[puntingking]

He admitted by himself to having multiple altercations with SPs and maids. That alone shouldn’t be normalised / allowed plus I’m not entirely sure, but I’m assuming an SP or someone shared his multiple negative reports.

I think this is the reason. 

 i don't like men who push the boundaries. 

[Mstar86]

ok.
Maybe, It is to do with his adult work feedback or something cause I can't seem to find anything on ukp that suggests he is a boundary pusher. 
Unless I have missed something. 

“Maybe I am narcissistic and can be a bit dominant and like to control the meeting, when you see escorts you are paying money and have a limited time so the focus is more on your pleasure and making the most of the time”

Now this may not seem bad but what if the SP wants to be in control or not just focus on your pleasure?

I’m not accusing anyone but if you can’t see the red flags then 

[Waterhouse]

I can see that gurds have been banned? I am not too sure if this is a temporary ban or a permanent ban. But why was he banned? 

Because he was a dodgy “wrong’n”. Been saying it for a fair while now - as have others.

[Garyhart]

Because he was a dodgy “wrong’n”. Been saying it for a fair while now - as have others.

I really don’t understand why he asked that question after all Gurds was saying in this thread. The answers are there for everyone to read. I’ve never seen a punter repeatedly incriminate himself and then claim SPs who report him for what he said he does are liars.

He’d probably prosecute himself in a hypothetical court case

[puntingking]

Because he was a dodgy “wrong’n”. Been saying it for a fair while now - as have others.

he was also a regular contributor, So I will miss his reporting.   

[MissWolf]

he was also a regular contributor, So I will miss his reporting.   

Wow

So you are going to miss the contributions of a boundary pushing wrongun who in his own postings has openly admitted he thinks all the sps giving him bad reports or refusing to meet him are lying.

That kind of puts you in the same stable imo I mean already you run about here throwing in support for posts then backtracking faster than a man on rollerskates trying to walk up a hill, I get the feeling you will say anything you think someone wants to here.

[Garyhart]

he was also a regular contributor, So I will miss his reporting.   

You’re definitely trolling at this point. Did you not read what you just responded to?

[puntingking]

You’re definitely trolling at this point. Did you not read what you just responded to?

Did you read this?

 i don't like men who push the boundaries. 

Which was before I said.....

he was also a regular contributor, So I will miss his reporting.   

I can still be against one person action but still say that I will miss their contributions.. 

Well, one would of thought anyway... 

 

[Garyhart]

You’re a bit of a weirdo, that’s as much as I’ll say as I don’t want a ban

[puntingking]

You’re a bit of a weirdo, that’s as much as I’ll say as I don’t want a ban

ok, I don't want to get banned as well so I will also be moving on.

[daviemac]

ok, I don't want to get banned as well so I will also be moving on.

You have a habit of trying to defend the indefensible, something maybe you should reconsider. We don't ban people without thorough investigation.

This does not require a reply BTW.

[scutty brown]

Well....at least we now won't have Gurd's deliberate-argument inciting posts. That source of crap has gone.

The idiot posted to provoke and cause a reaction. Nothing more and nothing less: he'd create an argument for the fun and walk away.
You can't trust a word he said

[PilotMan]

Yep, him and his mate SonofAJohn, good riddance.