UKPunting membership question

[5qwerty80b]

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I joined this community approximately 10 months ago. I, like others jumped through the Bitcoin hoops and I nearly gave up as it was a total PITA, but somehow, and it was more by good luck than management that I got through the door.

I’m assuming that at some point over the next few weeks I’ll get a reminder that my membership here will soon be expiring (it’s a 12 month subscription, right?)

My question is: is there an alternative method to renew other than Bitcoin? The reason being that my Bitcoin provider appear to have closed my account or are about to close it because I didn’t supply the correct information when I registered with them. That said, they did take the money I sent to them, reduced it in value by a not insignificant amount and then passed what was left on to UKP for the subscription.

I’d like to stay here but wondered if there was an easier way to remain, or do I just need to buckle up and get on with it?

[Blackpool Rock]

Couple of previous threads on this and there may be others, I believe Bitcoin is still the only way but Head1 is all ears if someone can suggest another way that is anonymous etc

One of these threads does state that there is also a 4 year membership option which would save any hassle for a few years

 https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=385631.msg3979972#msg3979972

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=363157.msg4109827#msg4109827

[daviemac]

At the moment payment is only possible with BTC(Bitcoin) and BCH(Bitcoin Cash)
BCH fees will be a lot lower generally a penny or two

The easiest and safest way to buy and send cryptocurrency is through a hardware wallet
A ledger nano s is perfect for the job

External Link/Members Only

I'm not aware of the situation changing.

[fairyguy]

There should be an option to pay via card to accommodate for those who are not bothered with anonymity which I believe is a significant percentage.

I can imagine the website losing a lot of revenue from people finding the crypto transfer too much hassle. It was a pain for me to do so

[big-al93]

There should be an option to pay via card to accommodate for those who are not bothered with anonymity which I believe is a significant percentage.

I can imagine the website losing a lot of revenue from people finding the crypto transfer too much hassle. It was a pain for me to do so

And which payment processor is going to handle these card payments??? They are mostly US based, will look at the sites subject matter and close it down, probably keeping the money too.

[lewisjones23]

There should be an option to pay via card to accommodate for those who are not bothered with anonymity which I believe is a significant percentage.

I can imagine the website losing a lot of revenue from people finding the crypto transfer too much hassle. It was a pain for me to do so

Would that not make it easier to identify the owner? it doesn't just work one way

[Devon450]

I only use crypto for this site and its a right pain in the butt, mine expired earlier this year and didn't get any message telling me it was coming up for renewal. Understand the reason's behind it but as mentioned I'm sure it probably does discourage a few from joining up etc.

Card payment would be easier, also things like Revlout etc allow you use a disposable card number as well.

[PilotMan]

Yep, it's designed for security and anonymity, your details are not revealed to the vendor.

[PilotMan]

Would that not make it easier to identify the owner? it doesn't just work one way

The owner can use an anonymous vendor name.

There was a "Gentleman's club" in Shoreditch, their name on card receipts was something like Broadgate Steak House.

[lewisjones23]

The owner can use an anonymous vendor name.

There was a "Gentleman's club" in Shoreditch, their name on card receipts was something like Broadgate Steak House.

True but this website has enough enemies to make people go digging

The owner could set it up under ABC but eventually, somewhere along the line he/she/they will have to reveal their real name to an organisation, if that information gets compromised somehow they they'll be revealed as the owner of the biggest paid for sex forum in the UK, hardly an ideal situation

[fairyguy]

And which payment processor is going to handle these card payments??? They are mostly US based, will look at the sites subject matter and close it down, probably keeping the money too.

That’s just not true though.
Plenty of payment processors are happy to accept business. Adult work is able to use variety of payment processors with no issues whatsoever

[PilotMan]

True but this website has enough enemies to make people go digging

The owner could set it up under ABC but eventually, somewhere along the line he/she/they will have to reveal their real name to an organisation, if that information gets compromised somehow they they'll be revealed as the owner of the biggest paid for sex forum in the UK, hardly an ideal situation

There's only one "person (persons)", who can determine if that is a worry, or not.

[puntingking]

I typed a new thread up on this forum asking if members or site owner looked at whether they had or will consider a one off life time fee which members may more encliened to do then having to go through the same process every 1,2,3 or 4 years.

FOR NEW MEMBERS UPON REGISTRATION, THE UKP WEBSITE STATES


How about a membership option that is "for life"?
For example -
£30 one year membership
£110 for four years membership
£200 for life membership?

Just a suggestion for Head1 to think about 

It may influence wannabe members who want to join, another option to guarantee a life membership could encourage members who don't want to have to go through the renewal process again and they will also be protected from any member fee price increase.

This is just a thought, Obviously head1 can decide what he thinks is best.

Cheers 

I don't think it got anyone support or attention. 

I do think there would be a much bigger sign up registration if this was implemented. 

Having to go through this process every year or so is a big pain for many while having to go through this process just once is a small pain but this may not be a deal breaker for many members who want to join.

Right now it may feel it is a yearly hassle  that they would rather not have 


link :  https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=434595.0

[Blackpool Rock]

That’s just not true though.
Plenty of payment processors are happy to accept business. Adult work is able to use variety of payment processors with no issues whatsoever

I believe they did have issues with some of the credit card companies a year or so back 

[lewisjones23]

There's only one "person (persons)", who can determine if that is a worry, or not.

Its fairly obvious that it is important to them

[Strawberry]

I believe they did have issues with some of the credit card companies a year or so back 

Also the credit card companies impose restrictions and rules for example requiring verification of performers, as well as prohibited  content. However quite a few escort directories use a variety of card payment systems. Another headache could be keeping the information, data, details secure.

I am however certain admin has considered options and chose the one that works best.

[Thephoenix]

I typed a new thread up on this forum asking if members or site owner looked at whether they had or will consider a one off life time fee which members may more encliened to do then having to go through the same process every 1,2,3 or 4 years.

I don't think it got anyone support or attention. 

I do think there would be a much bigger sign up registration if this was implemented. 

Having to go through this process every year or so is a big pain for many while having to go through this process just once is a small pain but this may not be a deal breaker for many members who want to join.

Right now it may feel it is a yearly hassle  that they would rather not have 


link :  https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=434595.0

Surely it's worth a try.

[puntingking]

Surely it's worth a try.

Hopefully the site owner may read this and think about it 

When I first joined in 2019, there were so more reviews and information being shared. This was the attraction for me joining in the first place.

Why would someone pay a yearly fee when less people are joining now than they did in 2019 due to the fact of it is now behind a paywall. 

At least a life time membership for a one time fee will be an attraction for many more to join than there is now.

[lewisjones23]

Hopefully the site owner may read this and think about it 

When I first joined in 2019, there were so more reviews and information being shared. This was the attraction for me joining in the first place.

Why would someone pay a yearly fee when less people are joining now than they did in 2019 due to the fact of it is now behind a paywall. 

At least a life time membership for a one time fee will be an attraction for many more to join than there is now.

Have you got any stats to show how many reviews have been posted in 2019 and subsequent years up to the end of 2024?

They look to me like they are largely the same

[Blackpool Rock]

Have you got any stats to show how many reviews have been posted in 2019 and subsequent years up to the end of 2024?

They look to me like they are largely the same

I thought the stats centre would or used to have the yearly number of reviews contained in the stats but it doesn't appear to

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=stats

In the specific review stats it doesn't have yearly but monthly number of reviews so if someone wants to start adding them up and report back (I can't be arsed)

I would say that it does appear to monthly reviews are generally down from around 1700-1800 in 2019 to more like 1400-1500 the last couple of years

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=reviewstatistics

[RedKettle]

I thought the stats centre would or used to have the yearly number of reviews contained in the stats but it doesn't appear to

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=stats

In the specific review stats it doesn't have yearly but monthly number of reviews so if someone wants to start adding them up and report back (I can't be arsed)

I would say that it does appear to monthly reviews are generally down from around 1700-1800 in 2019 to more like 1400-1500 the last couple of years

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=reviewstatistics

2018    22,391
2019    20,031
2020    10,459
2021    24,996
2022    21,289
2023    19,043
2024    17,362

Reviews have reduced 2018 (22,391) to 2024 (17,362) - although 2019 was midway between them at 20,031 and the highest year was 2021 - possibly a release of tension after Covid!!

[Lou2019]

Hopefully the site owner may read this and think about it 

When I first joined in 2019, there were so more reviews and information being shared. This was the attraction for me joining in the first place.

Why would someone pay a yearly fee when less people are joining now than they did in 2019 due to the fact of it is now behind a paywall. 

At least a life time membership for a one time fee will be an attraction for many more to join than there is now.

due to the COL, just as an example, people may not want to commit to a lifetime subscription. What might suit you might not suit the next person. Not everyone punts regularly or may not plan on it being a lifetime hobby so to speak.
Would you pay for a lifetime subscription with Netflix 

[Lou2019]

2018    22,391
2019    20,031
2020    10,459
2021    24,996
2022    21,289
2023    19,043
2024    17,362

Reviews have reduced 2018 (22,391) to 2024 (17,362) - although 2019 was midway between them at 20,031 and the highest year was 2021 - possibly a release of tension after Covid!!

I did laugh when I saw the post Covid figure, everybody was fucking like rabbits 

[puntingking]

due to the COL, just as an example, people may not want to commit to a lifetime fee. What might suit you might not suit the next person. Not everyone punts regularly or may not plan on it being a lifetime hobby so to speak.
Would you pay for a lifetime subscription with Netflix 

I am suggesting it to be one of the options and not the only option.

If there was a lifetime subscription for netflixs, some would get the lifetime subscription rather than a monthly subscription. 

I am suggesting that a life time one time fee to join could be an option for many who don't want to go through the effort for a yearly subcription instread.

Maybe the options can be - 1 year, 2 year, 4 year, one time lifetime. 

[Lou2019]

I am suggesting it to be one of the options and not the only option.

If there was a lifetime subscription for netflixs, some would get the lifetime subscription rather than a monthly subscription. 

I am suggesting that a life time one time fee to join could be an option for many who don't want to go through the effort for a yearly subcription instread.

Maybe the options can be - 1 year, 2 year, 4 year, one time lifetime. 

As it’s been said many times before, the powers that be would’ve given it given it a lot of thought & deliberation around what options best work. If you don’t like it, why don’t you set up your own forum?   
the way you post you seem desperate for your own platform

[puntingking]

why don’t you set up your own forum?   

God knows there are already too many.   

[puntingking]

As it’s been said many times before, the powers that be would’ve given it given it a lot of thought & deliberation around what options best work.

I will message the site owner later to see if this could be an option. 

[Lou2019]

I will message the site owner later to see if this could be an option. 

Clearly you have not listened to a word I’ve said?  you’ve been warned by the mods on a number of occasions, are you trying to get banned  it’s your funeral, crack on fella 

[finn5555]

Clearly you have not listened to a word I’ve said?  you’ve been warned by the mods on a number of occasions, are you trying to get banned  it’s your funeral, crack on fella 

Talking of which welcome back Lou 

[finn5555]

I will message the site owner later to see if this could be an option. 

For once Lou is right! By all means message the owner albeit I think it’s futile as he has made it perfectly clear how he wants payment and when. I am sure he has considered all the options.

However, good luck 🤞

[puntingking]

For once Lou is right! By all means message the owner albeit I think it’s futile as he has made it perfectly clear how he wants payment and when. I am sure he has considered all the options.

However, good luck 🤞

Thank you mate 

[Lou2019]

For once Lou is right!

You cheeky fucker 

[Blackpool Rock]

You cheeky fucker 

Yeah cheeky as fuck that, once indeed, even a broken clock is right twice a day 

[SonofAJohn]

Cryptocurrency is not hard to use
You can use your debit card to buy bitcoin cash with a trust wallet (from app store) then you can directly send the money to pay for your membership here through the trust wallet.
Never understood people's complaints.
It is not as if the site went onto the TOR network, used a onion url and only accepting Monero.
I wonder how most of you would handle that challenge...

[Lou2019]

Yeah cheeky as fuck that, once indeed, even a broken clock is right twice a day 

Sorry you’ve lost me ???

[TomD1343]

Cryptocurrency is not hard to use
You can use your debit card to buy bitcoin cash with a trust wallet (from app store) then you can directly send the money to pay for your membership here through the trust wallet.
Never understood people's complaints.
It is not as if the site went onto the TOR network, used a onion url and only accepting Monero.
I wonder how most of you would handle that challenge...

Agree with this. For the money it costs per year and the mild agro of a crypto payment once a year it’s well worth the money IMO. Saved me a huge amount of cash over my relatively short time on here.

Surely a lifetime thing would cause all sorts of problems with paid lurker accounts who don’t contribute

[Blackpool Rock]

Sorry you’ve lost me ???

It was a joke but obviously went over your head

[PilotMan]

Sorry you’ve lost me ???

That wasn't difficult, do pay attention.

[JontyR]

I will message the site owner later to see if this could be an option. 

If you include your proposed lifetime subscription with the email you may get out alive.

[Trex]

2018    22,391
2019    20,031
2020    10,459
2021    24,996
2022    21,289
2023    19,043
2024    17,362

It’s crazy when I saw over 7,000 guests on here last night. Imagine if the half of them joined, would that help increase reviews, maybe. I think this year will be the same as last year like 17,000 reviews a year or maybe less.
This is not good because this site is on a decline, specially the reviews is not increasing, most older members are not reviewing as much or quit doing it and we need more new members to join to replace.




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[puntingking]

As guests will be able to read this then I would encourage them to join and participate in our community. 

[SonofAJohn]

It’s crazy when I saw over 7,000 guests on here last night. Imagine if the half of them joined, would that help increase reviews, maybe. I think this year will be the same as last year like 17,000 reviews a year or maybe less.
This is not good because this site is on a decline, specially the reviews is not increasing, most older members are not reviewing as much or quit doing it and we need more new members to join to replace.




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Over 10x non registered viewers compared to registered members is crazy.
Something has to be done about that, need to entice people to join

[daviemac]

Over 10x non registered viewers compared to registered members is crazy.
Something has to be done about that, need to entice people to join

The site owner, admin and mods are doing just that, we have changed the way we question new members or those who don't contribute. However what doesn't help the situation is those established members who still insist on pulling others up about a lack of contributions or making unhelpful comments on things they post.

Seeing ordinary members making comments about new members does nothing to encourage others to join.

[90125]

The need to maintain confidentiality for both parties is the driver behind Crypto payments to join. Unless that hurdle can be overcome nothing will change.

The site continues to provide a mountain of useful information for punters.

[Trex]

Paying for membership is the reason why the reviews are declining. If I was a young punter right now wanted to join but you have to pay, I won’t join and I will just be a guest instead.

Been on here for 10 years now and It was FREE to join. That’s why UKpunting was successful because of it.

UKpunting has saved me money and time. And I did my part to TOFTT make sure if she real or not. We here to help each other out if things like that, not to get scammed, keep us safe and award WG’s who deserve a positive review, so she can still keep doing it.

[puntingking]

Paying for membership is the reason why the reviews are declining.

There are still members joining - on average there are about 70 new members each given day according to the stats.
However, less will actually pay the membership fee once joined.
Even less will make useful contributions.

That is why I had suggested a one time joining fee to avoid new members having to go through the process year after year. Also, some may join the first time but cant be arsed to rejoin the 2nd time which is also another advantage of having a one time joining fee.

I have seen a minor surge in new members leaving reviews over the last couple of months.
As a contribution based site to benefit for all its members - the more members we have equals the more reviews we would have so anything that encourage new members to sign up would be a good thing.

 

[Skeleton]

I get where OP is coming from, but can’t imagine many people will shell out a large amount for lifetime membership straight off. Maybe after a year or two when they see the benefits of using the site it’s possible.

Crazy though that right now there are over 6500 guests and only 700 members online, clearly lots of interest but question is what’s stopping them joining? That’s a question for people cleverer than me though

[90125]

Paying for membership is the reason why the reviews are declining. If I was a young punter right now wanted to join but you have to pay, I won’t join and I will just be a guest instead.

Been on here for 10 years now and It was FREE to join. That’s why UKpunting was successful because of it.

UKpunting has saved me money and time. And I did my part to TOFTT make sure if she real or not. We here to help each other out if things like that, not to get scammed, keep us safe and award WG’s who deserve a positive review, so she can still keep doing it.

Consider yourself lucky that you continue to enjoy a free ride  You have no idea how much it costs to run this gaff. It is what it is so it's pointless convo.

[Trex]

Consider yourself lucky that you continue to enjoy a free ride  You have no idea how much it costs to run this gaff. It is what it is so it's pointless convo.

I’m just trying to help mate, because I’m seeing a decline on reviews for the past 3years and way too many guesses than members. Like you said it’s a pointless convo and I will leave it.

[Head1]

Why we use crypto payments
We accept Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash because they offer our members privacy and flexibility that traditional payment methods can’t. Credit card payments leave a trail of personal details and transaction records, while crypto lets you join securely and discreetly. It’s also simpler for us — no payment processors deciding what kinds of communities are “allowed.” Crypto keeps things private, fair, and under our control