What's the protocol if the SP mentions UKP and dislikes being reviewed?

[deg_dilemma]

A position quite a few of us seem to have been in at some point, so firstly apologies if I have missed an existing older thread on this subject.

I've been in a small number of situations where a masseuse or SP has brought up the topic of UKP, and of course I am surprised and confirm that "I have never heard of it". They usually mention (not in a positive light) a previous customer who left a review and they're unhappy to be outed. This applies more often to massage places that want to remain under cover. It does surprise me that some punters go out of their way to tell SPs about UKP, though this discussion has been had already here.

What's the accepted protocol here? Would you write a review to continue help the UKP community, or would you respect the masseuse/SP's wishes?

[MLawro93]

A position quite a few of us seem to have been in at some point, so firstly apologies if I have missed an existing older thread on this subject.

I've been in a small number of situations where a masseuse or SP has brought up the topic of UKP, and of course I am surprised and confirm that "I have never heard of it". They usually mention (not in a positive light) a previous customer who left a review and they're unhappy to be outed. This applies more often to massage places that want to remain under cover. It does surprise me that some punters go out of their way to tell SPs about UKP, though this discussion has been had already here.

What's the accepted protocol here? Would you write a review to continue help the UKP community, or would you respect the masseuse/SP's wishes?

That is the point of UKP. If you are here, then you agree with the ethos. Just be careful about specific details in your review, and you'll be fine. There is nothing else we can do, especially with those who actively discuss the site to SPs for their own gain.

[PilotMan]

I'm always surprised when members say that an SP has brought up UKP. I've punted some of the same girls and they have said nothing to me. My gut feeling is that members are mentioning UKP, e.g. "I saw your reviews and am keen to meet" - as if to garner favour or a preferable service.

IIRC, there was a recent thread where a member said he did exactly that.

With just one exception, I don't recall an SP bringing UKP to my attention, prior to or during a punt.

The exception was an SP who had no reviews, but had some comments about her on UKP. I contacted her via text, all she could do was blab on about UKP, so I swerved her.

I have had SP's "reach out"  to me after I've left negative reviews; it happened recently.

At least until the punt is over, I Plead ignorance.

[WelshClipper]

Deny all knowledge.

If pushed say you’ve heard of it but don’t use it.

I have even been known to pretend I don’t like the sites ethos, I am much more of a m———t kind of a guy

 

Oh and then post review anyway six months later. 

[scouting]

Feign ignorance, review but leave it a little longer than normal and amend a few details to avoid recognition. If it's massage I'm more ready to keep it private, particularly if I'm likely to revisit.

[MissWolf]

I'm always surprised when members say that an SP has brought up UKP. I've punted some of the same girls and they have said nothing to me. My gut feeling is that members are mentioning UKP, e.g. "I saw your reviews and am keen to meet" - as if to garner favour or a preferable service.

IIRC, there was a recent thread where a member said he did exactly that.

With just one exception, I don't recall an SP bringing UKP to my attention, prior to or during a punt.

The exception was an SP who had no reviews, but had some comments about her on UKP. I contacted her via text, all she could do was blab on about UKP, so I swerved her.

I have had SP's "reach out"  to me after I've left negative reviews; it happened recently.

At least until the punt is over, I Plead ignorance.

For me this is the key phrase and specifically the word REVIEWS 

I have had several clients use this phrase and I always assume they are UKP members,  it doesn't bother me either way and makes no difference to the service I provide.

However if they were referring to AW I would expect them to use the phrase  'ive seen your feedback on AW and im keen to meet you' or something similar. It's like when I have a number displayed,  I get clients messaging and saying 'I  got your number off AW.....'

The use of the word review in the correspondence is imo a subtle and possibly underhand way of letting an SP know about their membership and the potential that they will review them.

I however have pointed a few clients in the direction of UKP over the last 8 years if I think they would benefit from membership here, I've always done it as they are dressing, in a casual way, it was a client who told me about UKP a couple of years after I started working.

[chrisintcov]

I punted one girl off AW and she asked me not to leave a review.  She didn’t mention this site and I don’t think I did specifically.  It was going to be a positive so I respected her wishes and didn’t review.

If it was going to be a negative I would have reviewed her for you guys.

[PilotMan]

For me this is the key phrase and specifically the word REVIEWS 

I have had several clients use this phrase and I always assume they are UKP members,  it doesn't bother me either way and makes no difference to the service I provide.

You're clearly savvy and aware of the workings of this site, and I'm sure wouldn't be intimidated / act differently, if someone were to mention they were a member here.

However, I'm sure there are Many SP's (especially if English isn't their first language) who may not be as savvy, and may be intimidated if someone were to use UKP as "leverage". I'm know that happens.

I have seen for myself two different people contacting the same SP. The first was from someone claiming to be the owner of UKP, essentially requesting "an arrangement" in order to keep the positive reviews coming.

The second set of messages were someone saying they were the "Admin" on UKP and requesting she provides an outcall service (which she didn't offer) and they would discuss payment and services upon arrival. Failure to turn up when requested would lead to a "bad outcome" for her.

My guess is that these two incidences are from people who are not "active" members on here, but rather the silent majority, who do not contribute in any way shape or form.

In my book, any member mentioning UKP prior to the completion of a booking is a wrong un! There's only one reason for you to do that.

If a member gets asked, I would suggest feigning ignorance.

[WelshClipper]

For me this is the key phrase and specifically the word REVIEWS 

I have had several clients use this phrase and I always assume they are UKP members,  it doesn't bother me either way and makes no difference to the service I provide.

However if they were referring to AW I would expect them to use the phrase  'ive seen your feedback on AW and im keen to meet you' or something similar. It's like when I have a number displayed,  I get clients messaging and saying 'I  got your number off AW.....'

The use of the word review in the correspondence is imo a subtle and possibly underhand way of letting an SP know about their membership and the potential that they will review them.

I however have pointed a few clients in the direction of UKP over the last 8 years if I think they would benefit from membership here, I've always done it as they are dressing, in a casual way, it was a client who told me about UKP a couple of years after I started working.

Two things

1. So when an SP takes an instant dislike to UKP even if they have had glowing reports, what do you suppose is going through their minds, is it simply a personal preference. I am thinking of a well known BBW sp who works out of Tipton and despite many good reviews she remains adamant to refusing their business.  I am sure your answer is different strokes for different folks but it seems a little anti-business 

2. It’s often been said that a negative review can be a benefit to SP as well allowing her to review her modus operandi and improve her game if she wishes. There are several SPs who start out with a bunch of negatives then suddenly go positive and never look back. I am sure your answer will be the same as above.

In civvie world if I leave a review on google maps or tripadviser even if the review is positive, if you say you don’t like the wallpaper then you usually get a terse response. It’s why the only acceptable review is a 110% positive. Same goes for Adultwork feedback and why it is dismissed so strongly on here.

Musings over but this stuff regularly raises its head

Just curious about how you see it 

[PilotMan]

I punted one girl off AW and she asked me not to leave a review.  She didn’t mention this site and I don’t think I did specifically.  It was going to be a positive so I respected her wishes and didn’t review.

If it was going to be a negative I would have reviewed her for you guys.

Did you see her again?

[big-al93]

I punted one girl off AW and she asked me not to leave a review.  She didn’t mention this site and I don’t think I did specifically.  It was going to be a positive so I respected her wishes and didn’t review.

If it was going to be a negative I would have reviewed her for you guys.

This, if it's a one off and you won't be going back, review. If you are keen to repeat and get the impression a positive review would out you to her and lead to you not getting another booking, then you need to either wait and make the review so sterile that she can't identify you,or do not review at all.

I personally tend not to review SP's who are active members on here, purely for discretion, although you have to assume that every review is read by the SP it is about.

[PilotMan]

Two things

1. So when an SP takes an instant dislike to UKP even if they have had glowing reports, what do you suppose is going through their minds, is it simply a personal preference.

A girl who I gave her first and really glowing review was pleased about the review. However, she felt it revealed quite intimate details about the encounter, which she found embarrassing. Subsequent positive reviews had the same effect on her.

So even though a girl chooses to do Sex Work, she may not want to see what she does in "print".

[chrisintcov]

Did you see her again?

Yes.  She’s no longer active, sadly.

[WelshClipper]

A girl who I gave her first and really glowing review was pleased about the review. However, she felt it revealed quite intimate details about the encounter, which she found embarrassing. Subsequent positive reviews had the same effect on her.

So even though a girl chooses to do Sex Work, she may not want to see what she does in "print".

I can see that. Still think it’s odd not wishing to describe what she offers. Think of AW field reports, none of them would make me go see them. They tell you nothing.

Not saying an sp doesn’t have a say. Of course she does, I still think it is counterintuitive, either you want success or you get out.

Ah well, it is what it is. 

[Colston36]

I think we should always try to respect the other party's wishes - except when they have not respected ours, one being to deliver what is promised. So I pay what was agreed and she does what I asked. If not the deal is off, and I will publicise her inadequacy.

[DastardlyDick]

I think the nearest I've got to this is when I was asked "how did you find me?" I just said AW and she was happy with that. Presumably she deciding which of the many sites were worth paying for 
If I was specifically asked about UKP, I'd feign ignorance, but still do a review a few weeks after the actual punt so (hopefully) the SP won't know it's me! I never bother with doing AW "field reports" - they're so discredited, it's just not worth the time.

[berksboy]

I'm always surprised when members say that an SP has brought up UKP. I've punted some of the same girls and they have said nothing to me. My gut feeling is that members are mentioning UKP, e.g. "I saw your reviews and am keen to meet" - as if to garner favour or a preferable service.

IIRC, there was a recent thread where a member said he did exactly that.

With just one exception, I don't recall an SP bringing UKP to my attention, prior to or during a punt.

The exception was an SP who had no reviews, but had some comments about her on UKP. I contacted her via text, all she could do was blab on about UKP, so I swerved her.

I have had SP's "reach out"  to me after I've left negative reviews; it happened recently.

At least until the punt is over, I Plead ignorance.

"I have had SP's "reach out"  to me after I've left negative reviews; it happened recently."

How did she figure out it was you ? I take it did not take your F15 ?

[PilotMan]

How did she figure out it was you ? I take it did not take your F15 ?

My reviews are fairly detailed, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist, or aeronautical engineer 

[Iamforreal]

Not long I was in a booking and was asked how did I find her, was it UKP? I said AW and asked her what is UKP.
Well, she started to explain that for her is very good and she gets loads of attention after positive reviews on here and encouraged me to check it out.
I wanted to tell her that she shouldn't mention this because some will threat her with negative reviews if she doesn't do certain things, but then she would know I have lied..was awkward anyway, 1st time when I was asked about it in a booking.
Once 1 lady contacted me after I reviewed her and told me that I guessed her age wrong, but she was happy with the review...
Horses for courses, some love the attention and the good business, others don't and hate us, seen plenty of profiles where they say if we are forum members and going to review them they will report us on ClientEye  , Jas JJ and Callie Rocks for example.

[MissWolf]

You're clearly savvy and aware of the workings of this site, and I'm sure wouldn't be intimidated / act differently, if someone were to mention they were a member here.

However, I'm sure there are Many SP's (especially if English isn't their first language) who may not be as savvy, and may be intimidated if someone were to use UKP as "leverage". I'm know that happens.

I have seen for myself two different people contacting the same SP. The first was from someone claiming to be the owner of UKP, essentially requesting "an arrangement" in order to keep the positive reviews coming.

The second set of messages were someone saying they were the "Admin" on UKP and requesting she provides an outcall service (which she didn't offer) and they would discuss payment and services upon arrival. Failure to turn up when requested would lead to a "bad outcome" for her.

My guess is that these two incidences are from people who are not "active" members on here, but rather the silent majority, who do not contribute in any way shape or form.

In my book, any member mentioning UKP prior to the completion of a booking is a wrong un! There's only one reason for you to do that.

If a member gets asked, I would suggest feigning ignorance.

Thank you id like to think I was savvy and that I understand how a forum works not just ukp, after all I co-run Escortinghub which is also a forum, although there are no reviews.

I agree not everyone is this savvy or understands forums and is not bold enough to be unfazed by knowing that the client they are seeing is a member of UKP,  personally I just assume every client is a member.

Sadly there are unscrupulous counts out there who will try and manipulate others for their own gain, just yesterday I had a message asking me what my best price was because if it was good enough he would be a regular 
I explained it wasn't his choice if he became a regular or not and if he couldn't afford me at my price the he best trot on, not quite the same but manipulation in one form or another goes on all the time sadly.

Threats are another thing entirely and if SPs were more open to forums and using them in a more savvy way then less blackmail would go on because they would know they can call out that kind of behaviour or bring those kind of messages to the moderation team and they will help.

[MissWolf]

Two things

1. So when an SP takes an instant dislike to UKP even if they have had glowing reports, what do you suppose is going through their minds, is it simply a personal preference. I am thinking of a well known BBW sp who works out of Tipton and despite many good reviews she remains adamant to refusing their business.  I am sure your answer is different strokes for different folks but it seems a little anti-business 

2. It’s often been said that a negative review can be a benefit to SP as well allowing her to review her modus operandi and improve her game if she wishes. There are several SPs who start out with a bunch of negatives then suddenly go positive and never look back. I am sure your answer will be the same as above.

In civvie world if I leave a review on google maps or tripadviser even if the review is positive, if you say you don’t like the wallpaper then you usually get a terse response. It’s why the only acceptable review is a 110% positive. Same goes for Adultwork feedback and why it is dismissed so strongly on here.

Musings over but this stuff regularly raises its head

Just curious about how you see it 

It's an interesting one I as I said above i don't think a lot of SPs understand how forums work or how to make them work for them, there are many influences clouding someone's judgement of a site like this.
There is the influence of other SPs on sites like saafe, or other girls they meet in person.
Unnecessary information being put into a review, too revealing or personal.

One thing I belive gives girls a negative view of here are the picture collectors,  there is a thread on the London board atm where guys are reminiscing and sharing dozens of pictures of SPs they have punted, most of those girls are retired and no longer working, these guys have kept these pics for years, girls just don't need that if they retire.

I can only speculate as to why girls would refuse someone a booking on the basis of them being a member here
Possibly if they were a known BB punter or their online presence was very misogynistic like KT for example and they made their membership obvious, aggressive language in reviews can also be scary for girls, I've read things like, ....so I pushed her face down and fucked her as hard as I could, thats not something most girls want so fear may be a factor.

I actually think like you its very possible for an SP to learn from reviews and improve the service they offer, I learn all the time from my reviews and from others.

I do wish girls would learn to work with forums more as I think it would be much less stressful if they did and punters interacting on forums with SPs also learn about this industry from a different perspective.

[GreyDave]

  When I ring for the 1st met I always say I saw your ad on X or Y and wondered if you are able to text me details.

Feedback can only be given if you`ve booked though AW and in my experiance only the Indy Brit girls seem to do that the Brazlians Hungarians ,Roms and Chinese Ive seen have just got mme to turn up at time often they are later or i find i am in a line Only the Brit girls Ive seen have ever asked about giving feed back or reveiwing THEY KNOW... the others dont care as they seem to be touring an often profile swapping ..

.I walked today from a very skinny girl I just did not fancy her i felt bad as she was so polite ....now ive done that in Soho and other places and been called names by WG the AW booking system helps cut this down for both SP and Punter and this site gives you an idea of weather its gonna be what youre after...

.if the service was excellent as a previous lad has said and she doesnt want you to reveiw ...I dont  and Im sure theres others that think a reveiw will cause a rush and put an end to both Punters fun and SPs income    This happened to the flat I and a few others were goong to sadly they closed 

[WelshClipper]

I do wish girls would learn to work with forums more as I think it would be much less stressful if they did and punters interacting on forums with SPs also learn about this industry from a different perspective.

Thank you very much for a great response which I am sure required some time and thought 

For what it’s worth, I have learned some things from what you have said. I have taken them on board as well.

 

[OakTree]

Do SP's randomly bring up UKP? I can only think of one time it was mentioned in a punt with me and that was because she'd worked out I'd reviewed her previously. Positively I might add.

I just can't see why an SP would suspect you're going to review her on here unless you lead her to suspect it.

If you think about it the vast majority of punters don't review and are probably not even members on here. What's the chances of an SP out of the literally hundreds of punters she sees randomly bemoaning this site with a punter who's also an active member on this site? Unless of course she moans about it to every punter she sees.

Just my thoughts on it anyway.

[scutty brown]

.............This applies more often to massage places that want to remain under cover...........

That's a key point as as far as I'm concerned it's a case of listening, understanding and doing what seems reasonable and fair.
Outing a girl at a massage place can be destructive - both to the girl, the site - and ultimately your/our future enjoyment.

[scutty brown]

Do SP's randomly bring up UKP?...............

Yes on occasion
I've twice been told by massage parlour managers that if they suspected I'd written a specific review (which I had but wasn't admitting) they'd have no hesitation in stabbing me........

[PilotMan]

Do SP's randomly bring up UKP? I can only think of one time it was mentioned in a punt with me and that was because she'd worked out I'd reviewed her previously. Positively I might add.

I just can't see why an SP would suspect you're going to review her on here unless you lead her to suspect it.

If you think about it the vast majority of punters don't review and are probably not even members on here. What's the chances of an SP out of the literally hundreds of punters she sees randomly bemoaning this site with a punter who's also an active member on this site? Unless of course she moans about it to every punter she sees.

Just my thoughts on it anyway.

Exactly my thoughts too.

I think it's extremely unlikely that an SP will bring up UKP.

The caveat may be an experienced and highly rated SP (on here), who always gives a good service and wants to be reviewed again on here for the continuity of advertising / promotion, but I suspect that is extremely rare. It's not happened to me anyway.

[OakTree]

Yes on occasion
I've twice been told by massage parlour managers that if they suspected I'd written a specific review (which I had but wasn't admitting) they'd have no hesitation in stabbing me........

With all due respect Scutty that doesn't sound like random. There's a fair chance they did actually suspect you of reviewing them previously. Do you think they would of mentioned and threatened you had you not written a review?

[GreyDave]

Yes on occasion
I've twice been told by massage parlour managers that if they suspected I'd written a specific review (which I had but wasn't admitting) they'd have no hesitation in stabbing me........

Well thats not the girl is it ?  It seems to be more of the OCG s way of operating theres much more chance of the control that gets mentioned on here when the Sergi or Managment is involved.

When the WG , SP Woman is savy enough to know of reveiws and forums she is already in the mindset of how to be and respond with client as Stawberry mention if there was more awareness  of forums.

Ive been offered discount on next vist if I write a reveiw , Ive been asked not to as their phone gets so busy and does not bring extra work and a few clued up ladies have openly told me of the punting sites and what to look out for with profiles as the lads on here do to with the reverse photo serch and age of photos used ...I am not rich and to me 60 quid for half hour once or twice a week is a noticable ammount I like to think its well and enjoablly spent and like many lads on here as I get older I probaly wont be able or have the spare cash Id like to think this and the other sites slim down the chance of me being husselded out of cash..
Many many years ago there was a Radio London presenter Robbie Vincent , I remember a caller telling him he went to a "Lady of the Night" he gave her £50  (in 1984 that was a lot, and Soho clip joints were rife ) she took the cash and told him to clear off  He complained there should be some where that he could complain too and warn others about.He was told thats not the sort of thing we talk about on here ..40 years later we aleast have some sort of warnning about this here

[Strawberry]

Well thats not the girl is it ?  It seems to be more of the OCG s way of operating theres much more chance of the control that gets mentioned on here when the Sergi or Managment is involved.

When the WG , SP Woman is savy enough to know of reveiws and forums she is already in the mindset of how to be and respond with client as Stawberry mention if there was more awareness  of forums.

Ive been offered discount on next vist if I write a reveiw , Ive been asked not to as their phone gets so busy and does not bring extra work and a few clued up ladies have openly told me of the punting sites and what to look out for with profiles as the lads on here do to with the reverse photo serch and age of photos used ...I am not rich and to me 60 quid for half hour once or twice a week is a noticable ammount I like to think its well and enjoablly spent and like many lads on here as I get older I probaly wont be able or have the spare cash Id like to think this and the other sites slim down the chance of me being husselded out of cash..
Many many years ago there was a Radio London presenter Robbie Vincent , I remember a caller telling him he went to a "Lady of the Night" he gave her £50  (in 1984 that was a lot, and Soho clip joints were rife ) she took the cash and told him to clear off  He complained there should be some where that he could complain too and warn others about.He was told thats not the sort of thing we talk about on here ..40 years later we aleast have some sort of warnning about this here

I haven't posted on this thread yet, it was Miss Wolf, but many years ago another SP member gave me great advice on using forums, advice I generally heed. I mentioned UKP to a punter last year who had receive some of the scam, blackmail messages some punters have posted about on here, I sent him links to some of the scam threads to make it easier for him to find the threads.

Regards the OP's question my advice is don't play games, someone did that with myself some years ago,  the game went on into the booking. I did my best but combined with a few other things presented I couldn't be as relaxed as I could have been.

[GreyDave]

   My Bad,    Strawberry Sorry A small Grey moment there 

Strawberry is sweeter  to remeber than Wolf    Sorry 

Interestingly though you where watching it and your comment from other side sort of mirrors my experiance,

 Brit Girls are aware of forums and reveiws the others not so much But their " Managment are !!

[MissWolf]

  My Bad,    Strawberry Sorry A small Grey moment there 

Strawberry is sweeter  to remeber than Wolf    Sorry 

Interestingly though you where watching it and your comment from other side sort of mirrors my experiance,

 Brit Girls are aware of forums and reveiws the others not so much But their " Managment are !!

I howl a sweet song does that count 

I'm forgive you this time, but I'm watching ya 

[RedKettle]

Exactly my thoughts too.

I think it's extremely unlikely that an SP will bring up UKP.

The caveat may be an experienced and highly rated SP (on here), who always gives a good service and wants to be reviewed again on here for the continuity of advertising / promotion, but I suspect that is extremely rare. It's not happened to me anyway.

I have had it mentioned twice. Once was a regular who as I walked in addressed me as red kettle. I was a bit slow and gave the game away. She told me she had been doing that to all regulars for a few weeks to find out who had reviewed her! 


The other time was with a WG I had not seen before and was a question out of nowhere about whether I was on UKP.  I played dumb and it was not mentioned again.

[downdog]

I have a couple I can remember. Never brought it up myself.

One saying I should join as it's such a great way to see reviews of the best SPs. She is one of the best reviewed people here though.
Said I would take a look at the site.

The other one brought it up when I offered to do an AW review that she hates UKP , it's full of fake reviews as they are not attached to bookings. Obviously did not mention my own membership.

[lewisjones23]

I only book WG using a random number generated by the Text Me app now, literally generate the number that day and then delete it straight after the punt.

From this I take no real interest if a WG wants me to review or not, I'll leave a review as and when I see fit.

If I'm asked if I use or know of UKP, I tend to say I've heard of it but don't use it, I don't think it is realistic for an experienced punter, which I am by the way I carry myself in bookings, not to have at least heard of UKP in this digital age

That tends to fend any WG questions off

[petermisc]

Exactly my thoughts too.

I think it's extremely unlikely that an SP will bring up UKP.

The caveat may be an experienced and highly rated SP (on here), who always gives a good service and wants to be reviewed again on here for the continuity of advertising / promotion, but I suspect that is extremely rare. It's not happened to me anyway.

I have had a few girls who have asked me to leave AW feedback, after asking where I found their number.  Nowadays if asked I will say I found them on VS or elsewhere that doesn't have reviews.

I have no issue with leaving an AW review with a girl I would consider going back to, obviously it will be positive.  On the other hand I can't be bothered leaving an AW review for a girl that I have no intention of ever going back to, and would rather not run the risk of her retaliating.  It is this clear disincentive to leaving negative reviews that makes AW reviews the crock of s*** they are.

I have never ever had a girl mention UKP to me.  I suspect that girls bring it up because they already suspect the punter of having reviewed them.  I am amazed at the amount of unnecessary detail some reviewers include, which will only help a disgruntled SP narrow it down.

[Massage Bloke]

I have had a few girls who have asked me to leave AW feedback, after asking where I found their number.  Nowadays if asked I will say I found them on VS or elsewhere that doesn't have reviews.

I have no issue with leaving an AW review with a girl I would consider going back to, obviously it will be positive.  On the other hand I can't be bothered leaving an AW review for a girl that I have no intention of ever going back to, and would rather not run the risk of her retaliating.  It is this clear disincentive to leaving negative reviews that makes AW reviews the crock of s*** they are.

I have never ever had a girl mention UKP to me.  I suspect that girls bring it up because they already suspect the punter of having reviewed them. I am amazed at the amount of unnecessary detail some reviewers include, which will only help a disgruntled SP narrow it down.

Parking is the first clue.  Most men who drive and own a car are unable to really get their mind around the fact the some other blokes use public transport. They can't help telling the SP that parking was a pig, or they had no problem with the parking. So right away the SP can narrow a review down to those punters that have driven to the venue, because those punters HAVE to mention parking in their reviews!

Just read a review where the punter says he asked for a sexy striptease first.  Thus the SP has a clue as to the ID of the punter.

The "War and Peace" reviews, are inevitably littered with clues for an SP to ID a punter.

[southcoastpunter]

I have never ever had a girl mention UKP to me.  I suspect that girls bring it up because they already suspect the punter of having reviewed them.  I am amazed at the amount of unnecessary detail some reviewers include, which will only help a disgruntled SP narrow it down.

i agree - some girls whilst they don't mind a review hate all the detail - especially those guys that score them eg face 5.5/10. and actually because of personal preference, for most guys a comment like "looks like her pics" is far more useful.

I have no issue with leaving an AW review with a girl I would consider going back to, obviously it will be positive.  On the other hand I can't be bothered leaving an AW review for a girl that I have no intention of ever going back to, and would rather not run the risk of her retaliating.  It is this clear disincentive to leaving negative reviews that makes AW reviews the crock of s*** they are.

no, its's because of guys like you that AW feedback is a crock of s*** (to use your words) . FWIW, i have left 4 negative reviews (carefully worded and including something positive as well as the negative) and i have not had one come back and dispute it let alone "retaliate". anyway with over 50 positive feedbacks over a good number of years from over 40 different girls, i don't care whether one did leave me negative feedback in response.

[petermisc]

no, its's because of guys like you that AW feedback is a crock of s*** (to use your words) . FWIW, i have left 4 negative reviews (carefully worded and including something positive as well as the negative) and i have not had one come back and dispute it let alone "retaliate". anyway with over 50 positive feedbacks over a good number of years from over 40 different girls, i don't care whether one did leave me negative feedback in response.

Unfortunately my experience is very different.  Early on in my AW membership I left a review that the SP took a dislike to, and retaliated, making claims that were patently untrue.  I believe several SPs blocked bookings because of it.  I resolved not to leave a negative review on AW again.  It is the very nature of the AW system that allows SPs to influence their reviews, even outright scam them, that makes it a crock of s***.  Even you admit that you have had to carefully word your reviews on there to avoid retaliation.

[Thephoenix]

In my 30 years of punting UKP has never come up in conversation.
Neither  have any other review sites I've been associated with.

[RedKettle]

I have never ever had a girl mention UKP to me.  I suspect that girls bring it up because they already suspect the punter of having reviewed them.  I am amazed at the amount of unnecessary detail some reviewers include, which will only help a disgruntled SP narrow it down.

I always change a few details that do not impact the value of the review. Things like time of day etc. Just to throw them off the scent.  Details I give the WG, like my job, tend to be fantasy.  It has become automatic over the years.

[petermisc]

I always change a few details that do not impact the value of the review. Things like time of day etc. Just to throw them off the scent.  Details I give the WG, like my job, tend to be fantasy.  It has become automatic over the years.

I rarely mention either the day or time of day in my reviews, as it rarely has any relevance to the service received.  All it does is provide clues to help identify you.

[WelshClipper]

I rarely mention either the day or time of day in my reviews, as it rarely has any relevance to the service received.  All it does is provide clues to help identify you.

I made the mistake of mentioning it once about four years ago, absolute mistake never to be repeated, must have been suffering from the post Covid blues or something.

Now I play the “I’ve heard of it but don’t use it” line and if that fails just say I don’t like the site.

Not much else she can then say 

[petermisc]

Now I play the “I’ve heard of it but don’t use it” line

Which probably leaves the SP not believing a word you say.  As in the old excuse "There might be drugs in my place, but I don't use them, honest, officer".

[davey.edwards1969]

Many years ago I arranged a meeting with a SP who had only just joined AW
Had a great punt during which she mentioned that she had only just started working and she wasn't as busy as she thought she would be
I offered to post a review and she seemed grateful - I even went to the trouble of asking her how much detail I should include and she said she didn't mind

I posted reviews on 3 different sites thinking it would help boost her profile
Shortly after I received a message from her on AW saying that she wasn't happy that I had posted a review of her "all over the internet " !!!!
Then she complained that I had gone into the graphic details of the services she provided
FFS it was on her profile that she did anal , CIM and swallow !!

On the other hand I have had girls who have openly asked for a review and insisted I tell everything

I guess you can't win 

As to being identified by the SP it really doesn't bother me - If it was a good punt I will go back - and if it was crap then I won't

[petermisc]

As to being identified by the SP it really doesn't bother me - If it was a good punt I will go back - and if it was crap then I won't

The issue is if an SP takes offence at what you intend as a good review, going back may not be a good option.

[Problem Child]

I think we should always try to respect the other party's wishes - except when they have not respected ours, one being to deliver what is promised. So I pay what was agreed and she does what I asked. If not the deal is off, and I will publicise her inadequacy.

100% this.
If a sw’er  has on their profile “no reviews” or if I was asked not to review then I wouldn’t , unless said escort was ripping cunts off or endangering their clients then I would definitely neg.

Wrt to “I read your reviews”  that’s fucking awful, underhand, sleazy behaviour, imo even worse than just coming straight out with it. Fuck that!
I’m probably being a bit naive here (like most hookers probably know who all the regular posters on here anyway) but there’s a world of difference when you make it known yourself. 

Ukp has been brought up from time to time with me, but one escort really sticks out my memory.
On my first booking with her after immediately after I had came in her mouth she came straight up, spat my load in my mouth and started dfk’ing me. Now I’ve no idea on stats, but I would imagine less than 50% of men would not enjoy this, but that’s right up my street.. I remember saying to her that was a bit of a gamble and she just winked at me lol
Then a while later I had said semi-jokingly on here that I hadn’t done a sexy secretary clothing request for a while and needed to do one again soon.  So she turns up for my next booking and takes off her coat and is like “tadaaaaa!” , awesome secretary outfit underneath 
She never uttered the words uk punting or reviews, but she didn’t need to..

[Mstar86]

Many years ago I arranged a meeting with a SP who had only just joined AW
Had a great punt during which she mentioned that she had only just started working and she wasn't as busy as she thought she would be
I offered to post a review and she seemed grateful - I even went to the trouble of asking her how much detail I should include and she said she didn't mind

I posted reviews on 3 different sites thinking it would help boost her profile
Shortly after I received a message from her on AW saying that she wasn't happy that I had posted a review of her "all over the internet " !!!!
Then she complained that I had gone into the graphic details of the services she provided
FFS it was on her profile that she did anal , CIM and swallow !!

On the other hand I have had girls who have openly asked for a review and insisted I tell everything

I guess you can't win 

As to being identified by the SP it really doesn't bother me - If it was a good punt I will go back - and if it was crap then I won't

Hopefully a lesson to others trying to offer reviews as charity and to gain good favour, you can still get burned!

I’ve been blocked by sp’s after a review which is fair enough but never mentioned UKP to one ever.

[RandomGuy99]

I think most SPs dislike UKP as they don't see the services they provide as something that should be reviewed. They view it as a personal service and what happens behind a closed door between two or more adults is private. We may think that giving someone a positive review helps them get business, but often SPs will say that it brings them the wrong kind of business. Negative reviews cause them problems and could lose then business.  Reviews can often cause SPs offence especially if you call them fat, ugly or lazy. There are ways to write a review that don't involve using offence language, but still gets the negative experience over.  Also remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so while an SP may not tick your boxes they may be exactly what someone else is looking for and there is a space in the market for all SPs. SPs probably see that both positive and negative reviews cause them drama and they would prefer as little drama in their working lives as possible.

SPs can probably spot when they get a review on here as the amount of messages they get probably spikes for a few days and thus it's easier for them to identify who is a member on here.

Also some SPs see it as being two faced when a SS leaves positive feedback on AW and then a negative review on here.  However, this is because leaving negative or neutral feedback on AW often results in the SP leaving you negative or neutral feedback, which can then cause the SS problems when trying to book other SPs in the future, so SSs tend to leave positive feedback on AW regardless of their actual view of the experience, hence why you can't totally trust the feedback on AW.

[RandomGuy99]

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