Questions and thoughts

[rioblack90]

It’s close to 6 years since I started punting. In that time Iv met so many lovely ladies even some absolute stunners I thought I wouldn’t be able to shag in my real life. However I have afew questions that have peeked my mind while wearing in my well worn punting shoes

1. The Chinese: why are there so many Chinese SP? Especially considering it’s literally on the other side of the planet. I’m not complaining, they tend to be the most professional and will do whatever you want (add to the fact they are cheap too). I like to book 15 minute duos and have them suck my nipples. Anyway why are so many here yet you never see authentic Japanese or Koreans? Same goes for Thais, there are a lot of them but you never see girls from say Laos or Vietnam? Also, why do they ALL use fake pictures? Hey the Chinese arnt the ones who only do this but ALL the adverts are fake. In a country of a billion, im surprised they all use fake pictures

2. Brazilians; I fucking love them. This probs links to the question above but why are there so many drop dead gorgeous Brazilians but there doesn’t seem to be any Chinese? I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but iv seen about 30 Chinese and one was drop dead gorgeous. I’m talking early to mid 20s and a 10/10. but with Brazilian girls they are nearly all stunning with good waists and big bundas. How are there so many here aswell? There seems to be so many here. I’m all for it but it just surprises me

3. Roms: this one baffles me the most but there seems to be a lot of Romanians and Hungarians. I don’t know how so many are here but it seems to have lessened a lot since Brexit. Could see how movement of people when we were in the EU they would get her but don’t understand now why there are so many

4. Last one but how on earth do massage parlours especially ones up north exist? They are clearly brothels. I get it might be down to individual councils discretion but it’s very clearly a place that sells sex even tells you such on a lot of websites

5. How on Earth do some WGs DONT have lube? A bottle costs 5-10 pound if that and they make on average about 80-100 an hour. If they run out of lube why don’t they just ask us to go pick some up. Baffles me, imagine going to a garage and buying the mechanic a wrench.   

To preface in case the tone of this sounds off, I love people of all nations and love meeting new people from different cultures. I’m not griping, these are just questions that have popped up the last 6 years. It seems that the most consistent nationalities are Brazilians, Thais, Chinese, Romanians and Hungarians. I’d be interested if its politics based and movement of people but I can’t seem to find anything online

[WelshClipper]

I’m no expert and there are better guys than me on here that could answer.

But for what it’s worth…

1. A lot of girls come here on “holiday”, study etc which is why they disappear so suddenly. This goes for most of the nationalities you mention. Many countries have a 90 day stay rule.

2. In my view Brazilians are no more attractive than other races I have seen, on the contrary there is an awful lot of Botox ruining some of the prettiest of all nationalities.

3. Hong Kong Chinese, a lot have British passports. 

4. Massage parlours I’m on dodgier ground as I know nothing about them but from what I have read before on here, they provide a safe place to work and many councils prefer that to these same girls walking the streets.

There are guys on here who have a much wiser view but I hope this partially helps you.

 

[rioblack90]

I’m no expert and there are better guys than me on here that could answer.

But for what it’s worth…

1. A lot of girls come here on “holiday”, study etc which is why they disappear so suddenly. This goes for most of the nationalities you mention. Many countries have a 90 day stay rule.

2. In my view Brazilians are no more attractive than other races I have seen, on the contrary there is an awful lot of Botox ruining some of the prettiest of all nationalities.

3. Hong Kong Chinese, a lot have British passports. 

4. Massage parlours I’m on dodgier ground as I know nothing about them but from what I have read before on here, they provide a safe place to work and many councils prefer that to these same girls walking the streets.

There are guys on here who have a much wiser view but I hope this partially helps you.

 

Ahhh I see thanks WC, never considered any of these. Yes all nationalities are indeed beautiful. Could be my Western Modern Man brain being influenced by porn why I love Brazilians. There culture is health conscious when it comes to fitness and they love the big bundas. A lot are botched but when I boot up Vivastreet I always see at least 5 really good looking Brazilians with nice asses and there like £80.

There was that one Chinese girl I saw in Wimbledon, she was honestly such a good looking girl that when I went back to the same place afew days later she had gone. (Ofcourse they baited me that she was still in Wimbledon) I was heartbroken. She was a good lil nipple sucker

Ah I’m gonna have to do a deep dive into Hong Kong and British relationships but I feel like il open a can of worms 😅

[WelshClipper]

Or simply stick to the well reviewed girls on here…..

Good luck 

[Munter84]

5. How on Earth do some WGs DONT have lube? A bottle costs 5-10 pound if that and they make on average about 80-100 an hour. If they run out of lube why don’t they just ask us to go pick some up. Baffles me, imagine going to a garage and buying the mechanic a wrench.   

I once visited an SP who hadn't thought to buy condoms (and left me sitting in her flat while she popped to the shops). Another girl was hosting incalls in a rented flat that had a shower, but not a single towel to use after. No bog roll either for that matter, luckily I didn't need it.

How do these basic fuckups happen? Easy: WGs are people, and a percentage of people are hopelessly disorganised, unprepared, or living with the fairies. I'm sure everyone can think of one such person in their workplace!

[rioblack90]

I once visited an SP who hadn't thought to buy condoms (and left me sitting in her flat while she popped to the shops). Another girl was hosting incalls in a rented flat that had a shower, but not a single towel to use after. No bog roll either for that matter, luckily I didn't need it.

How do these basic fuckups happen? Easy: WGs are people, and a percentage of people are hopelessly disorganised, unprepared, or living with the fairies. I'm sure everyone can think of one such person in their workplace!

Yeah fairs, even me when I get disorganised I’m baffled how I’m in that situation. I would just think wg’s would stock up on Condoms and lube and tissues. Towels I can understand, iv stayed in many an Air BnB which didn’t provide towels

[rioblack90]

Or simply stick to the well reviewed girls on here…..

Good luck 

Haha fair do’s, obvs there is pretty Chinese workers. I like them young tho, and I feel the price would massively shoot up. I think the real cherry on top was she was £60 for 30 and (IMO) she could have charged £150 for 30 easy.

[Mr Garmin]

It seems to me based on the number living here and providing services, that prostitution must be a national pastime in Poland

[rioblack90]

It seems to me based on the number living here and providing services, that prostitution must be a national pastime in Poland

Poland is another one! I see the odd Lithuanian but never and Denmark Sweden and barely any Finnish. Is it an economic reason? As in the countries you never really see are economically developed so girls are less likely to engage in this line of work? I barely see Rep of Ireland girls and they are a stone throw away

[Stevelondon]

I know this avswers not one thing the OP is on about. But as someone mentioned it.


I’ve been on my way to see someone and they have messaged me to buy some wet wipes. She even said please and thank you and told me there would be a £10 reduction. 

A running late SP. (On her way to her own flat) messaged me apologising. Advised me to go to the pub at the bottom of her street and have a beer until she got there…………. I told her this was totally unacceptable and I would be leaving unless she joined me in the pub 😂…… she did.

I was drinking wine with a SP after the event. We got chatting and were just enjoying things. She told me to stay put……… and popped out to buy more wine (she paid)

I’ve a million stories and they make me smile………….. I deliberately forget bad ones. 😀

[rioblack90]

I know this avswers not one thing the OP is on about. But as someone mentioned it.


I’ve been on my way to see someone and they have messaged me to buy some wet wipes. She even said please and thank you and told me there would be a £10 reduction. 

A running late SP. (On her way to her own flat) messaged me apologising. Advised me to go to the pub at the bottom of her street and have a beer until she got there…………. I told her this was totally unacceptable and I would be leaving unless she joined me in the pub 😂…… she did.

I was drinking wine with a SP after the event. We got chatting and were just enjoying things. She told me to stay put……… and popped out to buy more wine (she paid)

I’ve a million stories and they make me smile………….. I deliberately forget bad ones. 😀

Incredible haha that was really wholesome

[WelshClipper]

Incredible haha that was really wholesome

He is a well known devastatingly handsome punter-dude and gets away with murder. 

[nigel4498]

It seems to me based on the number living here and providing services, that prostitution must be a national pastime in Poland

Thank god for that.
Just love the Polish girls.

[scutty brown]

It’s close to 6 years since I started punting. In that time Iv met so many lovely ladies even some absolute stunners I thought I wouldn’t be able to shag in my real life. However I have afew questions that have peeked my mind while wearing in my well worn punting shoes

A few quick answers

1) There are so many Chinese places because the Chinese OCGs are continuously expanding and looking for new markets Whether it be chip shops, drugs, cockle picking or sex work - they'll move into it and try to hog the market

2) Brazilians don't need a visa to come here as a tourist. They can flit in and out as they like. Makes them more user-friendly for the EE gangs post-Brexit. Roms & Albanians and other EE girls now need visas so the Sergeis have largely swapped to Brazilians

3) Yes the Roms and other EE girls have dropped post-Brexit (see above). Partly due to now needing visas, but also because the drop in exchange rates makes in less profitable to fuck in the UK than in Italy or Germany

4) Massage parlours exist  because the police and councils don't have the resources to deal with them. Not enough police numbers to raid them, not enough understanding of the market to identify them

[snaitram99]

Regarding no. 4, in Cardiff at least, there are several well known "massage parlours" which have operated for years, largely left alone by the police as long as they don't give rise to complaints from neighbours. Places that occasionally crop up in other places outside large cities tend to be shut down though.

[WelshClipper]

2) Brazilians don't need a visa to come here as a tourist. They can flit in and out as they like. Makes them more user-friendly for the EE gangs post-Brexit. Roms & Albanians and other EE girls now need visas so the Sergeis have largely swapped to Brazilians

Scutty, can you elaborate please.

Any EU member state just needs that ETA document according to GOV.UK website.

A lot of Brazilians hold dual Portuguese passports and so also just need the ETA document.

The ones that don’t have dual passports can use an ETA or visitor visa.

(I get your point that the Roms may now find Italy easier.)


But I don’t think there is any difference between the two from the point of view of UK entry for a “holiday”.

So I am still confused why Brazilians (and indeed Thais) have easier access to UK than traditional Roms, Poles and Hungarians

Not challenging you, just unclear 

[daviemac]

Regarding no. 4, in Cardiff at least, there are several well known "massage parlours" which have operated for years, largely left alone by the police as long as they don't give rise to complaints from neighbours. Places that occasionally crop up in other places outside large cities tend to be shut down though.

It's the same in the NE, if the massage establishments operate in a reasonable way and don't employ trafficked or illegal workers they are left alone, the police do regular checks and take action against any found to be breaking the law.

There's regular raids on Chinese massage parlours as well as Romanian brothels and active investigations into child sex abuse all done by officers dedicated to sex work.

We thought this raid - External Link/Members Only - involved the massage parlour but it tuned out to be the flats above.

[rioblack90]

Cheers for all the answers I never even considered this so appreciate all info. Mad about Brazilians if true, we must have some sort of trade deal to allow that. Just can’t see any correlation with the two countries that makes it so easy for them to get here and in great number. Same with the Thais

[Malvolio]

It's not as if you ever get to see a passport to verify where a WG is actually from, so the country a WG says she's from should be taken with a pinch of salt.

[DastardlyDick]

One reason for the number of Polish and Hungarian SPs may be that some of them have extended family members living here as a result of WW2 and the 1956 Soviet Invasion respectively. A lot of them took full advantage of the EU Settlement Scheme post Brexit, so they can come and go as they please.
As already said, Brazilians can get Portugese Nationality on an ancestry basis as Portugal was the Colonial Power in Brazil back in the day, so they can stay for up to 90 days in 180 days after which they can either return to Brazil or go to another EU Country for 90 days before returning to the UK.

[Stevelondon]

He is a well known devastatingly handsome punter-dude and gets away with murder. 

Oh how I wish 
I’ve got a face like a cobblers thumb. 😂

But if you’ve got charm and the personality to go with it. 🤷🏼

[Iceman90]

Brazilians tend to be fake everything. Fake tits, fake ass, lip and cheek fillers, botox, veneers and covered in tattoos. Chinese girls tend to be more conservative and natural. It’s nothing to do with being more attractive.

[rioblack90]

Brazilians tend to be fake everything. Fake tits, fake ass, lip and cheek fillers, botox, veneers and covered in tattoos. Chinese girls tend to be more conservative and natural. It’s nothing to do with being more attractive.

Interesting iceman, never thought of that. Each to their own and I know my tendencies is because of western values but damn not even aesthetic, the girls tend to be much older (Chinese)

[LLPunting]

A few quick answers

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3) Yes the Roms and other EE girls have dropped post-Brexit (see above). Partly due to now needing visas, but also because the drop in exchange rates makes in less profitable to fuck in the UK than in Italy or Germany

4) Massage parlours exist  because the police and councils don't have the resources to deal with them. Not enough police numbers to raid them, not enough understanding of the market to identify them

3) Not just exchange rate, the comparative cost of living translating to cost of operations is much higher here with rents that are already too high for civvies jacked even higher by knowing landlords charging a prostitution premium (making them lawbreakers so I'd love for these twice+ over shits stripped of criminally funded assets).

4) Parlours are treated like other brothels, if they're not causing problems then the cops would rather have the girls operating relatively safely somewhere they can be checked in on.  Sure if it's women compelled by gangs or a pimp then shut them down but if the girls are all there freely then leave em be.

[bigden40]

I know people like to blame Brexit for a lot of things but the drop off in EU nationals in the UK didn’t really happen in the run up to or immediately after Brexit at the end of 2019.  The drop off really happened from the summer of 2020 after the first wave of Covid lockdowns.

So probably Covid rather than Brexit for impact on punting

Exchange rate is a non-issue.  GBP/EUR just has fluctuated in a fairly narrow band (1.10 to 1.20) since 2016 or so and Brexit hasn’t really changed that.

[pbrown355]

2014 it averaged about 1.25, 2015 it averaged about 1.35!