Author Topic: The good old days  (Read 6439 times)

Offline Jimmy Cagney

From my viewpoint there is a dearth of girls available these days. Long gone are the times when every agency in the North East had a host of girls to choose from.

See this snapshot from Amour in 2014 as an example. No wonder I punt a lot less these days than I used to.

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Offline FLYING BLUE

From my viewpoint there is a dearth of girls available these days. Long gone are the times when every agency in the North East had a host of girls to choose from.

See this snapshot from Amour in 2014 as an example. No wonder I punt a lot less these days than I used to.

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Sadly, I have to agree with you.
The 'good old days' of Diamonds & Amour / NG - are way behind us

Premium stepped up to fill the void but these days, it also appears to be struggling.

Offline johnr1

The good old days and they were, I remember logging onto Notorious girls and Dimond's site on a Sunday evening, as that was when the cladder was up for the next seven days, you could then plan your fun for the week, the quality and amount of girls working back then was amazing, around that time I worked a lot in Amsterdam but would prefer to wait until I got home as the choice was so much better, Boy how times have changed  :cry:

Offline Shutty238

Definitely mooted this before, but in comparison, the risk and hassle that comes with escorting in comparison to online content provision is huge. I know platforms like OF and AW are really crowded marketplaces and it's difficult to stand out, but I can imagine how this would seem a better option for those tempted by sex work that wasn't there ten years ago.
That's said, I still think by comparison we're pretty well served in the north east by some outstanding indies. I only punt 3-5 times a year so variety not a huge issue for me, and I have my favourites!
Looking back is part of getting old I guess.

Offline foreverchanges

From my viewpoint there is a dearth of girls available these days. Long gone are the times when every agency in the North East had a host of girls to choose from.

See this snapshot from Amour in 2014 as an example. No wonder I punt a lot less these days than I used to.

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Just seen the images of Savannah and Keeva on that snapshot and strangely I lost the use of my legs again. :wacko: 

There's still some good ones out there who I've seen this year (tellingly most are are from that era) but as has been said on here many times before that was a truly Golden Age.

Offline nightdriver76

Got to agree and very rarely do they advertise girls in advance. Premium are the worst, nobody on the rota, next thing a couple of girls and they are fully booked.

Offline toon972

I agree, was lucky to start punting in that era. My first ever girl was Samantha though she was not called that then. I remember every Sunday night going through Diamonds availability and was so hard to pick a girl, there was so many. Happy days indeed.

Offline WelshClipper

Don’t wanna be contrary but “rose tinted spectacles” comes to mind.

I actually find the number of available SPs on AW quite overwhelming at the moment.

Horses for courses is another phrase that comes to mind.

I’ll shut up now, as you were

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Don’t wanna be contrary but “rose tinted spectacles” comes to mind.
How often have you punted in the North East? as unless you were around this area and punting at the time we're talking about you can't comment.

Amour, the agency linked to had 53 girls and 1 TS on their books in 2014, now the same agency has 22 and you think that's an improvement?   :unknown:

This area has always been dominated by agencies and around 2014 2 of the main agencies, Amour and Diamonds had long lists of available escorts, all reasonably priced and well worth seeing.

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The numbers and quality of available escorts in this area today is nothing compared to 10 years ago.

I should add, Notorious Girls from a bit earlier even had one with an authentic police woman's uniform complete with genuine warrant card.

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Offline FLYING BLUE

Wow - full face pic of the "Heaton Minx" herself - my oh my, what memories that brings back (including feedback from me on her profile  :thumbsup: :blush:

Offline johnr1

Thanks for that post Davie, that certainly highlighted the good old days  :drinks: Blast from the past looking at those old agency adds, plenty of girls on there I have seen and interesting looking through my old reviews  :D

Offline foreverchanges

Wow - full face pic of the "Heaton Minx" herself - my oh my, what memories that brings back (including feedback from me on her profile  :thumbsup: :blush:

Not forgetting her 'partner in crime' Eva plus other NE legends such as Morgan, Frankie May, Honey, Louise, Grace, Holly and of course Collette.  :wacko: :yahoo:

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How often have you punted in the North East? as unless you were around this area and punting at the time we're talking about you can't comment.

Amour, the agency linked to had 53 girls and 1 TS on their books in 2014, now the same agency has 22 and you think that's an improvement?   :unknown:

This area has always been dominated by agencies and around 2014 2 of the main agencies, Amour and Diamonds had long lists of available escorts, all reasonably priced and well worth seeing.

Amour - 53  - External Link/Members Only

Diamonds - 45 - External Link/Members Only

The numbers and quality of available escorts in this area today is nothing compared to 10 years ago.

I should add, Notorious Girls from a bit earlier even had one with an authentic police woman's uniform complete with genuine warrant card.
Blast from the past looking at those archives and remembering several bookings.

I punted occasionally and had a break leading up to January 2014. In January and February that year I met for the 1st time:-
-Keeva
-Savannah
-Yvonne (Angel of the North)
-Tori T (Northern Kara at the time)
Over the following months/years had numerous bookings with these as they all became regulars  :wacko:

Offline Jimmy Cagney

Notorious Girls - 2007

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Some North East legends there.

Victoria - no need to say anymore
Sharona - the dirtiest escort I have ever seen, insatiable



Offline WelshClipper

How often have you punted in the North East? as unless you were around this area and punting at the time we're talking about you can't comment.

Amour, the agency linked to had 53 girls and 1 TS on their books in 2014, now the same agency has 22 and you think that's an improvement?   :unknown:

This area has always been dominated by agencies and around 2014 2 of the main agencies, Amour and Diamonds had long lists of available escorts, all reasonably priced and well worth seeing.

Amour - 53  - External Link/Members Only

Diamonds - 45 - External Link/Members Only

The numbers and quality of available escorts in this area today is nothing compared to 10 years ago.

I should add, Notorious Girls from a bit earlier even had one with an authentic police woman's uniform complete with genuine warrant card.

Sorry I missed the “North East” forum indication

My bad

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Sorry I missed the “North East” forum indication

My bad
No probs.   :drinks:

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Notorious Girls - 2007

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Some North East legends there.

Victoria - no need to say anymore
Sharona - the dirtiest escort I have ever seen, insatiable
Don't forget the genuine police woman uniform complete with real warrant card.  :D

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Frankie with glowing feedback from Dennis, I take that was the guy on here who was besotted with her and always talked about her. She was good though.

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Frankie with glowing feedback from Dennis, I take that was the guy on here who was besotted with her and always talked about her. She was good though.

Haha he was a character, I saw her once as a last minute replacement and had a great time with her.

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Haha he was a character, I saw her once as a last minute replacement and had a great time with her.

He was a character, he got some stick but always came back.

Offline foreverchanges

Frankie with glowing feedback from Dennis, I take that was the guy on here who was besotted with her and always talked about her. She was good though.

Was a running joke on here that every booking with her ran the risk of Denyason leaping out of the wardrobe or emerging from under the bed. Saw her three or four times - A definite stunner who always gave a great service.

Offline toon972

Was a running joke on here that every booking with her ran the risk of Denyason leaping out of the wardrobe or emerging from under the bed. Saw her three or four times - A definite stunner who always gave a great service.


That is his name, I was trying to remember his name.

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Was a running joke on here that every booking with her ran the risk of Denyason leaping out of the wardrobe or emerging from under the bed. Saw her three or four times - A definite stunner who always gave a great service.
Didn't they have a right falling out when they went on a holiday together?

Offline FLYING BLUE

Didn't they have a right falling out when they went on a holiday together?

Yep!
He told me she sacked him off on the 3rd day of a very expensive holiday which he had paid for.....
There's one born every day  :rolleyes:

Offline FLYING BLUE

Was a running joke on here that every booking with her ran the risk of Denyason leaping out of the wardrobe or emerging from under the bed. Saw her three or four times - A definite stunner who always gave a great service.

Your memory is far better than mine - go to the top of the class Mr FC :D

Offline toon972

Didn't they have a right falling out when they went on a holiday together?


I am sure it was Thailand, who takes a girl to Thailand.  :unknown:

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I am sure it was Thailand, who takes a girl to Thailand.  :unknown:

It was indeed  :hi:

Offline hec123

Belinda and vic from notorious girls had a duo with them blew me mind Belinda’s fucking vic with a strap on will forever live in my mind

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Belinda and vic from notorious girls had a duo with them blew me mind Belinda’s fucking vic with a strap on will forever live in my mind
Was Belinda  from Norway or some such place or am I thinking of another one.

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Was Belinda  from Norway or some such place or am I thinking of another one.

It was either Norway or Finland, but you have the correct person I believe.  She passed away about 4 or 5 years ago.


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It was either Norway or Finland, but you have the correct person I believe.  She passed away about 4 or 5 years ago.
Sorry to hear that, had a few good bookings with her.

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From Norway she moved down to hull am sure and yes sadly passed away had some great times with her

Offline AgedCases

Seems I chose the wrong time to start punting as these gems quickly began disappearing and I'm in Teesside so started my adventure there instead. Got 2 regulars that both disappeared and soon had to trek to Gateshead for a bit of fun. Saw a couple of SPs that went on to taint their reputations and have disappeared since. Then covid-19 got in the way of me meeting Victoria Kavanagh. Haven't punted for a few years now.

Offline Eurypides

I’m a bit late to this thread but this decline and the reasons for it is something I’ve thought about a lot.

Looking at those archived pages and seeing the likes of Antonia of Diamonds definitely makes me nostalgic…

But onto the hypothesising!

1) Growth in OF etc. Definitely a factor, particularly at the ‘higher end’. Some girls switched at Covid and never came back, others may have been discouraged from escorting entirely. I do however think this has been exaggerated as a cause of decline in escorting, because it is an oversaturated global market: available statistics suggest the vast majority make very little, a top few percent do nicely, and a tiny elite are printing money and becoming millionaires. Also, in reality we see an OF business can actually reinforce an escorting business and vice versa, making both more lucrative: see for example the NE’s own Porscha who seems to combine the two well - much of OF content seems to be filmed with clients, and I expect OF acts as an additional funnel of client interest when she’s on tour.

2) The UK labour market. Mostly I think that the issues with punting are tied in with a lot of other issues in the UK economy.
- Loss of dynamic young single workers through ending of free movement* (no politics please, hear me out😂). These people created more competition in the casual labour market generally, making escorting more relatively attractive, and also created more competition specifically within escorting.
- Covid and people leaving the workforce. Again, even if these mostly aren’t potential sex workers I’m more talking about lower competition in the labour pool at a macro-level. Even the government / civil service seems puzzled as to why 1 million people left the workforce, but apparently aren’t on benefits or at state pension age. Then you have the massive increase of people on disability since Covid, particularly for mental health.
- National Living Wage. This is probably the biggie. In 2015/16 this was £7.20 ph for 25+. Now it’s £12.21. That’s a 70% increase! This is creating lots of weirdness in the labour market more generally, like if you work 40 hrs a week at McDonalds you can earn almost as much a year (~£25k)as what many entry-level graduate jobs are (laughably) advertising for. But let’s talk about escorting and agencies specifically. In 2015/16 Amour’s hourly rate was £100. Now it’s £120. That’s an increase of only 20%. And some girls at Diamonds were already asking for £120 back then (there was a whole drama). Now I’m sure you can still earn way more than NLW as a successful agency escort but the point is more the relative gap has been closed. Also, girls often have another job and “top up” via a few hours escorting. There’s less incentive to take more hours meaning you often see girls these days working 1 day a week with agencies. If you’re a student like Lily D was, supplementing your income through other escorting is now relatively far less attractive than in 2015/6.
- Fixed costs like accommodation rent has gone up by roughly 25% across the UK since 2015, excluding London. Obviously this differs for agencies and independents but the cost has to be met by someone, and it has already eaten the 20% increase in agency fees we mentioned earlier before we even talk about what inflation has done to the remaining earnings.
- Escorting carries more risks than many jobs, such as violence, social stigma or even loss of education opportunities and other jobs through outting etc. The risks need to be adequately defrayed with “danger money” relative to alternative employment.

Conclusions (the unpopular part where I speak hard truths and get yelled at)
1) Agencies are no longer setting rates appropriately to attract enough of the same calibre of girls as 10 years ago. Take Germany, for comparison. At FKK Saunaclubs pre-Covid the going rate was €50 for 30 mins. Now at the majority of places like FKK Sharks near Frankfurt it is €100 for 30 mins. You can try to negotiate because technically they are self-employed and can set their own rates but you will not get far in most places. So that’s a huge increase by comparison with our local situation, in a market which still has access to EE girls.
2) There will be no return to the “glory days” because even if agencies started to set their prices more appropriately - which will certainly stimulate some improvement - there are wider structural issues with the UK labour market, which is acting as a giant drag on the whole economy, and escorting / punting isn’t immune to this. As many on this thread have attested, they have disposable income but decide not to spend it, or spend less often. That in turn deflates demand leading to a vicious cycle.


*Note on immigration/ free movement: I want to avoid politics here, but sufficed to say, while there was a post-Brexit so-called “Boris Boom” of legal non-EU immigration, most of these people seem to have come specifically for certain jobs in healthcare, carers, IT workers, students etc, with many bringing their families, with fewer single women available to integrate. In the 2000s and 2010s you had a constant influx of dynamic young, European, unattached workers from (relatively) socially liberal countries, looking for temporary or flexible work. Now only a small % became sex workers, but it created more competition for casual work in the labour pool overall, be that hospitality work or whatever. This made escorting a more attractive option for UK nationals and EEA visitors alike. I do think this is part of the issue but definitely not the whole issue. For example, in Germany paying for sex has definitely got worse / more expensive post-Covid while still obviously being in the EU, but the dropoff is nowhere near as dramatic as in the UK.
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Offline tobyhardy2

Speaking of the good old days, I wish Francesca would return. We can dream.

Offline foreverchanges

Speaking of the good old days, I wish Francesca would return. We can dream.

I'll second that! :thumbsup:

Offline Jimmy Cagney

Speaking of the good old days, I wish Francesca would return. We can dream.

One of the best. I had some memorable times with her, including an amazing duo with her and Kiaragirl  :thumbsup:

Offline Dunelm

Me too. I had some memorable duo sessions with her and Kiaragirl and the immortal Victoria Kavanagh. Filth does not even come close.

Offline Thepegmeister

Re Francesca, she worked out of a flat (which I think was actually her home tbh) quite near to where I was living at the time so would see her regularly. When I first went to see her, I had this strange feeling I had met her before.

Turns out I had. After seeing her a couple of times, we realised she used to live next door to my cousin and we’d met at a house party years before.  :D

As others had said, she was absolutely fucking amazing. Lovely, lovely lass as well.


Offline BernieSumner

Plugging the gap between NG and diamonds was ENE. My first venture was 2008 and a blonde girl  named Sienna. Can anyone do waybackwhen for ENE around 2008? Curious, lol

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Plugging the gap between NG and diamonds was ENE. My first venture was 2008 and a blonde girl  named Sienna. Can anyone do waybackwhen for ENE around 2008? Curious, lol

Feb 2009 is the earliest snapshot showing their roster of girls that I can find:
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Click on the blue "20 captures" link at the top left of the page to view more snapshots of the same page from different dates.

Here is a different page showing their list of girls but the snapshots only go back to Feb 2013:
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Offline Third Man

Amazing memories here for sure. Thinking back I never realised at the time just how lucky I was to be part of it all. I do realise now though!

Offline Jimmy Cagney

Temporarily Yours - from 2004!!

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Paula was one of my first punts in the North East, she was great  :P

Intreating to note that 1 hour punt was between £110 to £130.. which is around the same that a number of agencies charge 21 years later!!

Offline Squire Haggard

North of the border, where I am, has never had any good websites. There was a good choice of girls in the Edinburgh saunas in the past, but their photos were never online. Like everywhere else their numbers and quality today has nosedived.

Not from the North East, but an example of how things have changed.

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Offline foreverchanges

North of the border, where I am, has never had any good websites. There was a good choice of girls in the Edinburgh saunas in the past, but their photos were never online. Like everywhere else their numbers and quality today has nosedived.

Not from the North East, but an example of how things have changed.

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I count myself very lucky indeed to have experienced both the 'Golden Age' in my native NE but also years before that the Edinburgh Sauna Golden Age (especially the legendary London St Sauna). 20+ years on and the memories of Kerry, Becky C, the late great Lisa, Carrie etc etc still bring a smile on my face.

Offline FLYING BLUE

I count myself very lucky indeed to have experienced both the 'Golden Age' in my native NE but also years before that the Edinburgh Sauna Golden Age (especially the legendary London St Sauna). 20+ years on and the memories of Kerry, Becky C, the late great Lisa, Carrie etc etc still bring a smile on my face.

Ahh......the memories of LSS - it's where I truly began my punting life

Big Dave, Ricky & Raymond
The Macaw
Leibfraumilch (yuk) & 'brandy' were gratis
A dozen UK ladies available
Bring beer in from the pub next door
If you were unhappy with your 'service' - let Dave know on the QT & you get in for free next time

So many ladies, names forgotten..... only 4 that I can remember;

Lucinda
Lisa
Chelsea
Tina

Happy, happy days (at a difficult time in my life) :drinks:

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Ahh......the memories of LSS - it's where I truly began my punting life

Big Dave, Ricky & Raymond
The Macaw
Leibfraumilch (yuk) & 'brandy' were gratis
A dozen UK ladies available
Bring beer in from the pub next door
If you were unhappy with your 'service' - let Dave know on the QT & you get in for free next time

So many ladies, names forgotten..... only 4 that I can remember;

Lucinda
Lisa
Chelsea
Tina

Happy, happy days (at a difficult time in my life) :drinks:

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