Author Topic: How to stay STD safe for B2B massage?  (Read 11117 times)

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It really is an eye opener  :bomb:

Reading this thread and so many other threads and reviews on this subject

The majority of SS don't think there is a risk or a danger 😔

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that depends on the girl....


Agreed. I've been lucky 3 times with getting mono railed, all from Chinese Ladies and one of those times I very nearly slipped in. I reckon she was up FS the way she was frothing at the gash and keeping eye contact?
It's the closest you'll get to penetrative sex.

Offline RandomGuy99

If you get into naked pussy slides, then there is definitely a risk. I once got an STI from pussy sljdes. She almost barebacked me and I had to jump up and get a condom before it happened. You have to look after your own health in these situations

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that depends on the girl....

An African Lady I used to see in East London was very strict with clients and BB. Would always report clients who requested BB. More of an escort than a masseuse.

Once she was massaging my back with oil told me to turned around. As I did she started sliding up and down. I wasn’t hard at the point in time but could feel her vag rubbing against my flaccid penis. I told her to stop immediately and she was adamant nothing forbidden was going on. She told me she trusts me. (I am quite hygienic, never had a STI/STD, always clean) We did become good friends but after that incident I stopped seeing her. Luckily I didn’t catch anything from her.  Makes me wonder with her other regulars if she does participate in BB.


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An African Lady I used to see in East London was very strict with clients and BB. Would always report clients who requested BB. More of an escort than a masseuse.

Once she was massaging my back with oil told me to turned around. As I did she started sliding up and down. I wasn’t hard at the point in time but could feel her vag rubbing against my flaccid penis. I told her to stop immediately and she was adamant nothing forbidden was going on. She told me she trusts me. (I am quite hygienic, never had a STI/STD, always clean) We did become good friends but after that incident I stopped seeing her. Luckily I didn’t catch anything from her.  Makes me wonder with her other regulars if she does participate in BB.

Alot of wishful presumption there

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If you get into naked pussy slides, then there is definitely a risk. I once got an STI from pussy sljdes.

May I enquire which STI?

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The STI.

Severe testicular impetigo.

Offline RandomGuy99

May I enquire which STI?
I don't know. I just got given some antibiotics and it cleared up in 2 weeks.

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I don't know. I just got given some antibiotics and it cleared up in 2 weeks.

Ok thanks. No testing?

Anyway I have posted about genital to genital contact in the past and the relative risks and stated that it is broadly considered a low risk activity and is generally a lower risk than OWO. I always get shot down in flames despite linking to evidence.

Rather than quote my usual source again, I thought I would take a leaf out of your book and ask AI as it seems that people may pay more attention to this?

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Ok thanks. No testing?

Anyway I have posted about genital to genital contact in the past and the relative risks and stated that it is broadly considered a low risk activity and is generally a lower risk than OWO. I always get shot down in flames despite linking to evidence.

Rather than quote my usual source again, I thought I would take a leaf out of your book and ask AI as it seems that people may pay more attention to this?

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I got a UTI and went to GP. GP did urine test and sent for analysis. In the meantime they gave me antibiotics and I was on those for 2 weeks and it cleared up. I had STI test and it showed negative after 2 weeks. I had seen an SP the day before and I she had got a kittle over excited and in the heat of the moment was doing pussy slides before I jumped up and got the condom for penetration. She probably would have BBed me if I hadn't jumped up.

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I got a UTI and went to GP. GP did urine test and sent for analysis. In the meantime they gave me antibiotics and I was on those for 2 weeks and it cleared up. I had STI test and it showed negative after 2 weeks. I had seen an SP the day before and I she had got a kittle over excited and in the heat of the moment was doing pussy slides before I jumped up and got the condom for penetration. She probably would have BBed me if I hadn't jumped up.

Thanks for clarification. Did you have OWO during the same session? Also 1 day is a very short incubation period?
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Thanks for clarification. Did you have OWO during the same session? Also 1 day is a very short incubation period?
Yes, I did have OWO.

The UTI was bad as I had a fever, pain in testicles, difficulty peeing and peeing was like peeing razor blades. Urine sample was extremely cloudy and dark.

GP didn't ask have you been shagging recently?
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Yes, I did have OWO.

Then that is a more likely culprit?

I got a UTI and went to GP.  I had seen an SP the day before

Re incubation is the above correct?

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Then that is a more likely culprit?

Re incubation is the above correct?
It was probably 36 to 48 hrs after the booking.

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It was probably 36 to 48 hrs after the booking.

So now not the day before as you first said?

The reason I am pushing this is because you stated you contracted an STI from brief pussy rubbing and people will read this.

On the basis of your further information there is no evidence whatsoever to support that statement  :hi:

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So now not the day before as you first said?

The reason I am pushing this is because you stated you contracted an STI from brief pussy rubbing and people will read this.

On the basis of your further information there is no evidence whatsoever to support that statement  :hi:
In your opinion.

In my opinion, I had shagged nobody else and I had not had a UTI before, so I think there is a connection.

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Man dips his finger into a pot of blue ink and wipes his finger on a paper towel.

Man notices his blue finger. He's never had a blue finger before.

Must be the paper towel says man.

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Man dips his finger into a pot of blue ink and wipes his finger on a paper towel.

Man notices his blue finger. He's never had a blue finger before.

Must be the paper towel says man.

Indeed correlation and causation etc

In your opinion.

In my opinion, I had shagged nobody else and I had not had a UTI before, so I think there is a connection.

This is not about opinions. You have every right to think there is a connection and there could be, but this is about medical evidence to support your definitive statement that you contracted an STI from very brief pussy rubbing. There isn't any evidence that you even had an STI let alone how it was contracted.

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In your opinion.

In my opinion, I had shagged nobody else and I had not had a UTI before, so I think there is a connection.

Wow, when you firmly believe something, there's no swaying you or showing you the possibilities of other scenarios is there. You must be fun to work with.

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It was probably 36 to 48 hrs after the booking.

Agree with Doc H, this is too soon, especially for such a supposedly virulent reaction that a credible GP would prescribe without diagnosis.  Uninformed use of antibiotics is why many clinicians are concerned about rising antibiotic resistance and inefficacy.
Either you rawdogged someone else a week or more previous who had something or maybe the SP you're accusing was so badly infected that you proceeded with unprotected contact despite obvious symptoms like really bad breath or virulent and noxious discharge, and you would have had to be penetrating not just some gliding on your shaft away from tip, furthermore you would not have done any effective cleaning after with sanitary wipes, peeing and washing.
Also for you to be so susceptible you would likely have been having reactions to other previous partners given the pattern of your (much appreciated) documented Punting history.

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Agree with Doc H, this is too soon, especially for such a supposedly virulent reaction that a credible GP would prescribe without diagnosis.  Uninformed use of antibiotics is why many clinicians are concerned about rising antibiotic resistance and inefficacy.
Either you rawdogged someone else a week or more previous who had something or maybe the SP you're accusing was so badly infected that you proceeded with unprotected contact despite obvious symptoms like really bad breath or virulent and noxious discharge, and you would have had to be penetrating not just some gliding on your shaft away from tip, furthermore you would not have done any effective cleaning after with sanitary wipes, peeing and washing.
Also for you to be so susceptible you would likely have been having reactions to other previous partners given the pattern of your (much appreciated) documented Punting history.
Possibly, but I didn't see this particular SP again and I did see the others and never had any further problems. The SPs I've seen didn't engage in pussy slides, but did do OWO. They did protected penetration, hence my conclusion that it is possible to catch an STI from pussy slides.
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Possibly, but I didn't see this particular SP again and I did see the others and never had any further problems. The SPs I've seen didn't engage in pussy slides, but did do OWO. They did protected penetration, hence my conclusion that it is possible to catch an STI from pussy slides.

Slides from someone infected might give you some dermal reaction but to get a rapid and virulent urethral infection you would have had to have noticeable fluid lathering over the tip or immersion from penetration for more than scant seconds AND not cleaned up properly after.

Just because any given SP might not have infected you in one encounter doesn't mean they're not a risk in others.
They may be working whilst taking their course of treatment or before they knew they were infectious.  :dash:

For someone so prolific it's hard to believe you weren't properly cogniscent and experienced in managing your sexual health, seems you're willfully taking risks.  Sure you may be super lucky or super resistant like some infamous rawdoggers claim here but that's unlikely statistically.
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Possibly, but I didn't see this particular SP again and I did see the others and never had any further problems. The SPs I've seen didn't engage in pussy slides, but did do OWO. They did protected penetration, hence my conclusion that it is possible to catch an STI from pussy slides.

I was going to leave this, but you just cannot stop digging a bigger hole.

I had this feeling of deja vu regarding UTIs and yourself and remembered this thread.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=387982.msg3947145#msg3947145

In which you say this

Not nonesense.

I've had 2 UTIs in the last 4 years. Both resulted in urge to pee every 15 minutes and a painful kidney. Both treated by GP with antibiotics and cleared up.

And I had my prostate checked out too.

So you do have at least a couple of other experiences of UTI's which are not sexually related?


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Slides from someone infected might give you some dermal reaction but to get a rapid and virulent urethral infection you would have had to have noticeable fluid lathering over the tip or immersion from penetration for more than scant seconds AND not cleaned up properly after.

Just because any given SP might not have infected you in one encounter doesn't mean they're not a risk in others.
They may be working whilst taking their course of treatment or before they knew they were infectious.  :dash:

For someone so prolific it's hard to believe you weren't properly cogniscent and experienced in managing your sexual health, seems you're willfully taking risks.  Sure you may be super lucky or super resistant like some infamous rawdoggers claim here but that's unlikely statistically.
This SP was fully turned on and raring to go with a very wet pussy. I was lying on the bed and she was on top kissing me and the next thing I knew she had her wet pussy glding up and down my cock. My cock wasn't inside, but I could sense she was about to penetrate herself with me, so I shot out from under her and got a condom and then returned. Phew! I thought but a couple of days later it turned out I was too late, so I took a break while I had the antibiotics and tested. The symptoms disappeared within a couple of days. It could just have been from OWO and some bacteria from saliva got up me pipes and led to a UTI.  She was a relatively new SP and didn't have all the wet wipes to hand that the more experienced SPs do. She tried to get me to return a few weeks later, but I declined. She was a great shag but perhaps not the safest.

I"ve previously had two UTIs from kidney stones and then this one. Men have longer pipes than women, so it is more unusual for men to get UTIs. Ideally, you should have a pee after sex to clear your pipes of an saliva or other fluids that have gotten into them.
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Possibly, but I didn't see this particular SP again and I did see the others and never had any further problems. The SPs I've seen didn't engage in pussy slides, but did do OWO. They did protected penetration, hence my conclusion that it is possible to catch an STI from pussy slides.

ALSO:
Don't forget that aside from urethral infection, non penetrative raw contact still exposes you to risk of scabies, herpes and warts.  You can encounter and become an asymptomatic carrier of herpes, in fact a large majority of the population is likely to be carrying herpes from (asymptomatic) kissing but also other skin contact. You can go decades without a breakout just takes a (temporary) degradation of your immune system for sudden and even protracted or recurring bouts thereafter.

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This SP was fully turned on and raring to go with a very wet pussy. I was lying on the bed and she was on top kissing me and the next thing I knew she had her wet pussy glding up and down my cock. My cock wasn't inside, but I could sense she was about to penetrate herself with me, so I shot out from under her and got a condom and then returned. Phew! I thought but a couple of days later it turned out I was too late, so I took a break while I had the antibiotics and tested. The symptoms disappeared within a couple of days. It could just have been from OWO and some bacteria from saliva got up me pipes and led to a UTI.  She was a relatively new SP and didn't have all the wet wipes to hand that the more experienced SPs do. She tried to get me to return a few weeks later, but I declined. She was a great shag but perhaps not the safest.

I"ve previously had two UTIs from kidney stones and then this one. Men have longer pipes than women, so it is more unusual for men to get UTIs. Ideally, you should have a pee after sex to clear your pipes of an saliva or other fluids that have gotten into them.

Being a new sex worker (young or old) is not some formula for inept sanitary practices, considering how much women need to attend to their genital health.  ANY sex worker can be derelict or negligent but the vast majority who aren't rationality-compromised by mental health issues, substance abuse or systemic cultural indoctrination will be taking some precaution.

The way you're describing all this is as one who is self-deluding about the actual conditions and risks possible.  It is NOT unusual for men to get STIs, NSUs and UTIs, they are medically considered the most culpable for sexual transmission given the functioning of female genitals and their evidenced symptomology and greater harms from infection.

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Being a new sex worker (young or old) is not some formula for inept sanitary practices, considering how much women need to attend to their genital health.  ANY sex worker can be derelict or negligent but the vast majority who aren't rationality-compromised by mental health issues, substance abuse or systemic cultural indoctrination will be taking some precaution.

The way you're describing all this is as one who is self-deluding about the actual conditions and risks possible.  It is NOT unusual for men to get STIs, NSUs and UTIs, they are medically considered the most culpable for sexual transmission given the functioning of female genitals and their evidenced symptomology and greater harms from infection.
No — urinary tract infections (UTIs) are uncommon in men, especially younger men.

Here’s why:

* The male urethra is longer than the female urethra, so bacteria have a harder time reaching the bladder.
* Prostatic fluid has antibacterial properties, offering some protection.

When a man does get a UTI, it’s often considered complicated and tends to have an underlying cause, such as:

* Enlarged prostate (BPH) causing incomplete bladder emptying
* Kidney stones
* Structural or functional urinary tract abnormalities
* Recent urinary catheter use or urologic procedures
* Chronic illnesses that impair immunity (e.g., diabetes)
* Sexually transmitted infections (STIs), especially in younger men with urethritis symptoms

Because UTIs are unusual in men, doctors often investigate further to rule out these factors.

If a man presents with UTI symptoms — burning urination, frequency, urgency, suprapubic discomfort, cloudy or bloody urine — they usually check urine culture and sometimes do imaging or a prostate exam depending on the case.

For men, post-sex UTI prevention mostly focuses on reducing bacterial entry into the urinary tract and keeping urine flow healthy.

While UTIs are less common in men than in women, certain habits can still lower your risk:

After sex precautions

1. Urinate soon after sex – This helps flush out any bacteria that may have entered the urethra during intercourse.
2. Gently wash the genital area – Use mild, unscented soap and warm water to remove bacteria from the skin. Avoid harsh scrubbing or scented products, which can cause irritation.
3. Stay hydrated – Drinking water afterward increases urine output, which helps clear bacteria.
4. Practice safe sex – Condoms reduce the spread of bacteria and sexually transmitted infections, some of which can mimic or cause urinary symptoms.
5. Empty your bladder fully each time you urinate – Incomplete bladder emptying can allow bacteria to multiply.

If UTIs happen repeatedly after sex

* A healthcare provider may check for underlying issues like enlarged prostate, urinary tract abnormalities, or kidney stones.
* In rare, recurrent cases, they might recommend a single low-dose antibiotic taken after sex as a preventive measure.

Extra note: If your partner has frequent vaginal infections or UTIs, both partners should be evaluated, since bacteria can be exchanged back and forth
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No — urinary tract infections (UTIs) are uncommon in men, especially younger men.

Here’s why:

* The male urethra is longer than the female urethra, so bacteria have a harder time reaching the bladder.
* Prostatic fluid has antibacterial properties, offering some protection.

When a man does get a UTI, it’s often considered complicated and tends to have an underlying cause, such as:

* Enlarged prostate (BPH) causing incomplete bladder emptying
* Kidney stones
* Structural or functional urinary tract abnormalities
* Recent urinary catheter use or urologic procedures
* Chronic illnesses that impair immunity (e.g., diabetes)
* Sexually transmitted infections (STIs), especially in younger men with urethritis symptoms

Because UTIs are unusual in men, doctors often investigate further to rule out these factors.

If a man presents with UTI symptoms — burning urination, frequency, urgency, suprapubic discomfort, cloudy or bloody urine — they usually check urine culture and sometimes do imaging or a prostate exam depending on the case.

You're like Joe Rogan putting up a graph that evidences Climate Change and saying it debunks it.
Longer urethra means more tube to get infected.  STIs do NOT need to infect your bladder to cause symptoms and infection risk.  YOU experienced burning when peeing, that wasn't your bladder speaking that was part of your LONGER urethra telling you it was in trouble.
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You're like Joe Rogan putting up a graph that evidences Climate Change and saying it debunks it.
Longer urethra means more tube to get infected.  STIs do NOT need to infect your bladder to cause symptoms and infection risk.  YOU experienced burning when peeing, that wasn't your bladder speaking that was part of your LONGER urethra telling you it was in trouble.
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We aren't talking UTIs in general we are talking STIs

This:
* Sexually transmitted infections (STIs), especially in younger men with urethritis symptoms
Is the only particularly relevant phrase from your "ask AI" or hapless copy paste.
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We aren't talking UTIs in general we are talking STIs
Yes, well I think I had either an STI or a UTI. The GP just told me something showed up in the culture, but not what and she didn't wait for the culture result to come back before putting me on the antibiotics.

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Yes, well I think I had either an STI or a UTI.

TBF, I think I had something, I'm not sure what it was, is really not sufficient to be saying that you caught something from an SP, especially when you are unclear about how you caught whatever you think you had. I understand how it matches up in your mind, but in reality it just doesn't add up to enough to be making accusations IMHO.

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I"ve previously had two UTIs from kidney stones and then this one. Men have longer pipes than women, so it is more unusual for men to get UTIs. Ideally, you should have a pee after sex to clear your pipes of an saliva or other fluids that have gotten into them.

No mention of kidney stones in the thread I linked to? Also if you read the whole thread you also said this

Years ago I caught an STI from an SP. I went to the GUM at the local hospital and got antibiotics.

So having claimed the pussy slides incident was the only time you had experienced UTI symptoms we now have another STI and two UTIs?
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So having claimed the pussy slides incident was the only time you had experienced UTI symptoms we now have another STI and two UTIs?
That visit and STI was from OWO from a Hungarian SP. I didn't get a UTI that time. That was a sore on the entrance to the urethera. Antibiotics from the GUM clinic cleared it up.

My third UTI was from kidney stones again. I had an x ray to find it, but so small doesn't need removing.

Is there anything else you'd like to know?
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My detailed medical history isn't really important.

What is important is that I believe you can get an STI from pussy slides and thus SSs should avoid unprotected pussy slides. You are welcome to disagree. You're welcome to do whatever you like.

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Am looking to get a body to body massage, I’ve never done one before and have only done happy endings.

But I’d like some advice and suggested boundaries that are common practice to do when getting on. As things I would be uncomfortable with is her pussy touching me. As I don’t want any risk of STD infection.

How do B2B massages normally work? When my masseuse offers a B2B is that code word for sex? Does sex normally happen at the end of the B2B or do they normally just rub their boobs on your body until you cum? Do you cum on them?

Very funny if startlingly ignorant. It would be a medical miracle if you got infected.

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My detailed medical history isn't really important.

On the contrary a detailed and past medical history is highly important in reaching a diagnosis.

However, it is most beneficial if it is accurate and yours appears to be increasing inconsistent and contradictory with each post?


What is important is that I believe you can get an STI from pussy slides and thus SSs should avoid unprotected pussy slides. You are welcome to disagree. You're welcome to do whatever you like.

At no point have I said that pussy sliding may not lead to STI’s. It is a risk, but I have compared the risk to OWO and it is considered at most comparable and generally considered less. I even provided your favourite AI source to back this up.

There is no confirmation you had an STI on this occasion as it wasn’t tested for until post antibiotics. Developing such advance symptoms so soon is also inconsistent with an STI related to this session a day previously.

However, lets assume that your UTI symptoms were related to sexual activity during this session. You have been adamant that it was as a result of the genital to genital contact (which you describe as very brief) and that it was not related to OWO which you also received.

The basis of this was that you hadn’t had any issues with OWO and that this must therefore be related to the pussy slides.

Not only is that assumption totally unsound, but it now seems you have in fact had experience of an STI from OWO in the past yet you still discounted it as a possibility?

As I said earlier I have pursued this, because unfortunately many people do use UKP to enquire about risks. It is a complex subject.
As such it is important that when high profile posters make definitive statements and are then challenged, they should  acknowledge the possibility it may not be entirely accurate. In your case this refusal is purely though stubbornness ... a characteristic you frequently exhibit.

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On the contrary a detailed and past medical history is highly important in reaching a diagnosis.

However, it is most beneficial if it is accurate and yours appears to be increasing inconsistent and contradictory with each post?

At no point have I said that pussy sliding may not lead to STI’s. It is a risk, but I have compared the risk to OWO and it is considered at most comparable and generally considered less. I even provided your favourite AI source to back this up.

There is no confirmation you had an STI on this occasion as it wasn’t tested for until post antibiotics. Developing such advance symptoms so soon is also inconsistent with an STI related to this session a day previously.

However, lets assume that your UTI symptoms were related to sexual activity during this session. You have been adamant that it was as a result of the genital to genital contact (which you describe as very brief) and that it was not related to OWO which you also received.

The basis of this was that you hadn’t had any issues with OWO and that this must therefore be related to the pussy slides.

Not only is that assumption totally unsound, but it now seems you have in fact had experience of an STI from OWO in the past yet you still discounted it as a possibility?

As I said earlier I have pursued this, because unfortunately many people do use UKP to enquire about risks. It is a complex subject.
As such it is important that when high profile posters make definitive statements and are then challenged, they should  acknowledge the possibility it may not be entirely accurate. In your case this refusal is purely though stubbornness ... a characteristic you frequently exhibit.
I haven't discounted the possibility as I said in my responses earlier.

You seem to get off with haranguing people who offer an opinion based on their personal experiences. My experiences are just valid as anyone else's. You, yourself admit that it is possible to get an STI from pussy slides. It is also possible to get an STI from OWO as I have also experienced, but it was a different type of STI in my case.  Both were treated by means of antibiotics and cleared up and when I tested there were no STIs found.  Your experiences may be different and that's ok. I make my decisions based on my own personal experience not on what people, even those presenting themselves as medical experts, post on here. :hi:

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I got a UTI and went to GP. GP did urine test and sent for analysis. In the meantime they gave me antibiotics and I was on those for 2 weeks and it cleared up. I had STI test and it showed negative after 2 weeks. I had seen an SP the day before and I she had got a kittle over excited and in the heat of the moment was doing pussy slides before I jumped up and got the condom for penetration. She probably would have BBed me if I hadn't jumped up.

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Body to body massage doesn't include pussy slides


 Or getting on the table?

 

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Or getting on the table?

You have never booked me or done a review on me so how can you comment on my service

I'm not a cheap one who scams guys with just a boob sweep

I actually do body to body slides on the table skin to skin just not cock to vagina without a condom

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You have never booked me or done a review on me so how can you comment on my service

I'm not a cheap one who scams guys with just a boob sweep

I actually do body to body slides on the table skin to skin just not cock to vagina without a condom
He isn't commenting on your services, he's making a statement that for some SPs a B2B massage does not include getting on the table let alone anything else.

I know this from personal experience BTW.

Offline Mkhelen

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There are lots of scammers

Same as saying Nuru massage is body to body with baby oil  :angry:

Yet Nuru is a special substance a seaweed gel heated up to slide In not Johnson and Johnson baby oil  :dash:

Offline webpunter

There are lots of scammers

Same as saying Nuru massage is body to body with baby oil  :angry:

Yet Nuru is a special substance a seaweed gel heated up to slide In not Johnson and Johnson baby oil  :dash:

Going off at a tangent differentiating between whats on offer / not re nuru

Anyways unless for the hour its +30 ish [or more] likely it isnt nuru & indeed is johnsons
Or a minimal amount of nuru gel
On the basis of cost of the gel + prep & tidy up time

Whilst off on a tangent inadvertently possibly relevant to b2b & err ... pussy slides [PS]
PS are far from risk free obvs however IMO given the amount of nuru gel floating around especially around the important areas this must provide a teeny weeny bit of a barrier
Coz supa slippy lots of sliding & perhaps not so much real contact
Did i just go up her bum crack or minge ?  :unknown:

Edit: when mixed with warm even slightly hot water to start with [as it does cool down quite rapidly as i've found out with the civvy] heated up you need to be extremely careful not to slide in
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Offline Mkhelen

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Going off at a tangent differentiating between whats on offer / not re nuru

Anyways unless for the hour its +30 ish [or more] likely it isnt nuru & indeed is johnsons
Or a minimal amount of nuru gel
On the basis of cost of the gel + prep & tidy up time

Whilst off on a tangent inadvertently possibly relevant to b2b & err ... pussy slides [PS]
PS are far from risk free obvs however IMO given the amount of nuru gel floating around especially around the important areas this must provide a teeny weeny bit of a barrier
Coz supa slippy lots of sliding & perhaps not so much real contact
Did i just go up her bum crack or minge ?  :unknown:

Edit: when mixed with warm even slightly hot water to start with [as it does cool down quite rapidly as i've found out with the civvy] heated up you need to be extremely careful not to slide in


You put a condom on your dick and then slide around

It's not difficult to apply one

It's concerning the amount that don't want to wear one

Offline webpunter

You put a condom on your dick and then slide around

For a nuru massage ?
Thats sacrilege if its nuru where no full service [if on the menu you can whazz it on at the appropriate moment]
The seaweed is good for your skin and littleWP + his helmet lurve it

It's not difficult to apply one

Oh yes it, they're fiddly & never big enuf  ;)
Its much better when the SP / massage burd applies one with her mouth
A couple have been so skillful doing this i didnt realise that one had been applied

It's concerning the amount that don't want to wear one

There's a big difference between punters who actively seek going commando / dont get rubbered up when BB on offer to those frequenting an occasional pussy slide on b2b / nuru

Offline Jazzy99

B2B is probably the safest activity to partake. The risk is very low though theoretically not impossible. Make sure you opt for oil as it reduces friction thus preventing micro-tears in your skin which can allow virus to penetrate. Avoid genital to genital contact. Only do covered oral if offered. if you notice anything unusual like skin lesions on the provider then leave. Make sure it is a reputable provider \ agency.

Offline webpunter

B2B is probably the safest activity to partake. The risk is very low though theoretically not impossible. Make sure you opt for oil as it reduces friction thus preventing micro-tears in your skin which can allow virus to penetrate. Avoid genital to genital contact. Only do covered oral if offered. if you notice anything unusual like skin lesions on the provider then leave. Make sure it is a reputable provider \ agency.

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Part of your thesis ?
Term time does start soon  :rolleyes:

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Offline webpunter

:D

You will have to try harder than that
No point trying to shut the gate when the horse has bolted  :rolleyes:
So whats next on your advice offering to fellow UKPers ?