Condom issues

[mahler44]

This may have been discussed before so apologies in advance.
For some time, I've been finding that I lose my erection when transitioning from OWO to full sex which, of course, involves the lady putting a condom on me. Well, yesterday, I was with a lovely Chinese lady who gave me OW: not quite the sensation of 'without' but it meant that I was able to penetrate her. I must add that my climax was not as intense as, say, my marital, bareback sex used to be or even covered sex a few years ago with favourite SP's.
With the Chinese lady, we were in 'mish' so when I see her again I shall try a different position - maybe 'doggie'.
I should add that I'm one of the older members on here and I realise that age has a bearing on this. Also, I was with her for an hour so maybe a shorter time would be better. 
Any suggestions or thoughts would be most welcome.   

[Thephoenix]

I don't know how old you are, but in my experience as I got older the use of condoms gradually became more problematic.
I would lose my erection, climaxing would be more difficult and orgasms weren't as intense.

Intercourse or oral is bound to be more enjoyable uncovered as the condom reduces the sensation.

The likelihood is that as you age further you'll find that using condoms become pointless and resign yourself to just enjoying the delights of OWO or HJ to climax.

[Doc Holliday]

I'm not sure I fully understand what advice you are seeking, however the issues you describe around condoms are commonplace.

The recent scenario whereby the condom is applied firstly for oral, then later progresses to penetration is one method of compensating (and is widely used) but it is also likely given your age etc that you have some degree of ED. You don't mention whether this has been investigated or treated?

This has indeed been discussed many times before but there seems to be recent a trend of creating multiple threads on the same subject so just go for it 

EDIT I just looked at your reviews and it mentions you taking ED meds, so Phoenix's post is probably more use than mine 

[jseop109]

I find the same. The pause when the condom is being put on can lead to my erection weakening. Though it does tend to come back again (on a good day). Partly this will be the ageing process - I too am getting on a bit -  but I think also there's a mental/anxiety aspect. It is far less of a problem for me when the WG is skilled at doing it quickly and seamlessly so there's less of a time gap.

I also wonder about when to take the pill. At the moment I pop a taladafil (generic cialis) about an hour before, but I haven't really worked out whether this is optimal or whether sildenafil would be better.

[Maak]

I suggest stop watching porn & wanking, it will improve your erection issues.

[thatsaint]

It can also be down to what condoms the SP is using/providing. They are often the cheapest ones, and sometimes don't fit well at all.
A recent punt (and I don't have a huge or girthy dong) it was overly tight, like it was too small for me.

I imagine most SPs don't like you using your own condoms, but might be worth investigating that, and asking ahead of time if you can use your own

[Kesar]

This may have been discussed before so apologies in advance.
For some time, I've been finding that I lose my erection when transitioning from OWO to full sex which, of course, involves the lady putting a condom on me. Well, yesterday, I was with a lovely Chinese lady who gave me OW: not quite the sensation of 'without' but it meant that I was able to penetrate her. I must add that my climax was not as intense as, say, my marital, bareback sex used to be or even covered sex a few years ago with favourite SP's.
With the Chinese lady, we were in 'mish' so when I see her again I shall try a different position - maybe 'doggie'.
I should add that I'm one of the older members on here and I realise that age has a bearing on this. Also, I was with her for an hour so maybe a shorter time would be better. 
Any suggestions or thoughts would be most welcome.

Tadalafil 5mg daily would help you alot

[Stevelondon]

I’m like Doc H here and am confused about what help or advice the OP is requesting.

I also go along with Phoenix.
I’m a mature chap myself (less of the old please) Penetrative sex is not something vital in my punting life anymore. I’m into a lot of other things rather than just shagging in different positions.

[Thephoenix]

I also wonder about when to take the pill. At the moment I pop a taladafil (generic cialis) about an hour before, but I haven't really worked out whether this is optimal or whether sildenafil would be better.

The optimal time for the various meds has been discussed before.
Official guidance for sildenefil (Viagra) is fairly simple and says 1 hour after taking
In the many  years I've been using them, I've generally found that to be the case.

Tadalafil (Cialis) is far less simple to determine the optimal time for maximum effect.
Even the NHS just say effective after 30 mins and that's it.
The cialis leaflet doesn't help much. It just says - Starts working after 30 minutes, effective up to 36 hours.
Pharmaceutical advice suggests it peaks between 1 - 2 hours.
That's a hell of window and during previous posts, members have said it peaks in 4 - 6 hours.

I thought, that being an ol' codger, Tadalafil might work quicker, but in fact my experiences are that it seems to be more effective after about 12 hours!!
That means if I've booked a rub n tug for 10am, I've got to swallow the tablet with my cocoa when I'm watching The Epilogue the night before.

I'd be interested to hear of similar experiences.

[DastardlyDick]

As with most oral meds, the time between taking it and it doing what it's supposed to do can be influenced by several factors, but the biggest one is taking it on a full or empty stomach, which may be why the instructions for Cialis are so vague, and almost certainly explains the variations experienced by users.
Much to my surprise, there are actually different sizes of condom. It's basically done on the "average" cock size in a region, so those sold in the Far East have a slim circumference, but long length, African ones have a greater girth and European ones are somewhere between the two. It may be that the OK has somehow used a Far Eastern one which could explain the right fit 

[Thephoenix]

The optimal time for the various meds has been discussed before.
Official guidance for sildenefil (Viagra) is fairly simple and says 1 hour after taking
In the many  years I've been using them, I've generally found that to be the case.

Tadalafil (Cialis) is far less simple to determine the optimal time for maximum effect.
Even the NHS just say effective after 30 mins and that's it.
The cialis leaflet doesn't help much. It just says - Starts working after 30 minutes, effective up to 36 hours.
Pharmaceutical advice suggests it peaks between 1 - 2 hours.
That's a hell of window and during previous posts, members have said it peaks in 4 - 6 hours.

I thought, that being an ol' codger, Tadalafil might work quicker, but in fact my experiences are that it seems to be more effective after about 12 hours!!
That means if I've booked a rub n tug for 10am, I've got to swallow the tablet with my cocoa when I'm watching The Epilogue the night before.

I'd be interested to hear of similar experiences.

Ps.... I've had a message to tell me that the epilogue finished years ago.
I said I know, but I've got a very old TV.

[Doc Holliday]

As with most oral meds, the time between taking it and it doing what it's supposed to do can be influenced by several factors, but the biggest one is taking it on a full or empty stomach, which may be why the instructions for Cialis are so vague, and almost certainly explains the variations experienced by users.

Yes indeed there are many factors, although stomach contents is not really considered an issue with Tadalafil only Sildenafil.

As Phoenix mentions, this has been discussed before and is related to the time taken for the medication to reach maximum plasma. level. For Sildenafil the range for the majority is between 30 mins to 2 hours with a median of around one hour.

For Tadalfil the range is from 30 mins to around 6 hours with a median of two to four hours which is quite a broad range.

This does not mean that before (or after) the maximum level is reached there is not still an effective level and in the case of Tadalfil that is quite a long period. That effective level will also vary considerably on an individual basis.

In the case of Tadalfil single dose on demand, the broad range means each person must experiment to find the optimal timing to suit them but often the best starting point is around 2 hours before sex.

[Kingfisher69]

I've found this too, the transition from going from OWO to putting a condom on means I start to lose my erection. I recently tried OWO in RO position and CIM, far more enjoyable, no loss or erection and I got to lie on my back so hardly any effort on my part.

[Thephoenix]

I've found this too, the transition from going from OWO to putting a condom on means I start to lose my erection. I recently tried OWO in RO position and CIM, far more enjoyable, no loss or erection and I got to lie on my back so hardly any effort on my part.

As Mr Punch would say:......"That's the way to do-it!" 

[jseop109]

The cialis leaflet doesn't help much. It just says - Starts working after 30 minutes, effective up to 36 hours.

I had to smile when I read (I think it was) in the leaflet "This doesn't mean that your erection will last 36 hours"

Damn! I want my money back.

[simon07]

I take my Skyn large condoms on punts and usually WGs are ok with that.
 I find if the WG uses a tight fitting condom, it affects my performance and enjoyment because I find them uncomfortable.