UK petition to repeal online safety act

[Hottest Kat]

Sorry for intruding guys but I got sent a link for this petition. Not sure it'll do any good or if it's already been mentioned on here but thought it worthwhile to drop the link.
There's been a response but the the deadline is oct 25 so its still active.
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For guests who can't see the external link, just google the title.

[scutty brown]

423,000 signatures so far
But more needed - the more the better

[RandomGuy99]

It won't happen.

[HarryZZ]

Can I ask why we would want it repelled?
Genuine question, I don't really know much about it, I can understand why the government might want it but what is it that we think is bad about it?
Civil liberties, overreaching?

[Rose_128]

Can I ask why we would want it repelled?
Genuine question, I don't really know much about it, I can understand why the government might want it but what is it that we think is bad about it?
Civil liberties, overreaching?

The person who started the petition explained parts of it. No mention of adult industry. They applied a broad ban/block without judging each site individually. A lot of the times people mention free speech too, but we are delving into another territory I guess. So it's not just about adult stuff.

[finn5555]

I won’t be signing 

I think it’s a good thing and will have little impact on prostitution 

[scutty brown]

Overreaching, unworkable and ultimately ineffective

[finn5555]

Overreaching, unworkable and ultimately ineffective

That’s your opinion of course

[Strawberry]

As far as I understand the government hasn't actually blocked anything, it placed the blocking in the hands of the tech companies. Platform owners who haven't developed easy universal age verification solutions, and in the case of AW effective and appropriate content moderation systems.

[uncle jessie]

I won’t be signing 

I think it’s a good thing and will have little impact on prostitution 

Yes totally agree they need to limit what kids can see with just a quick google search , considering we got by with a sneaky wank over the women's underwear section of mums kays catalogue  .But seeing as using a VPN will bypass 99% of the restrictions it does seem rather pointless unless this  goes global which is unlikely , even then it will be a bit like playing whack a mole because people will always find a way around putting 18+ content online  . What the solution is I don't know .   

[Adoniron]

So people will riot to "protect are kids" but don't like practical steps taken to do so.

You can't just call for the Act to be scrapped without proposing an alternative solution to protect children from online harm. So those of you who want it to be scrapped what's your solution?

If you can get round the Act by using a VPN why do you want it scrapped? What else about it don't you like?

Or don't you think there was a problem before?

I think maybe more people would be willing to provide proof or age if they thought their personal data would be safe, but I'm not sure how that is achieved.

[Insideman]

when has the gov ever repelled anything

[Nightingale]

I won’t be signing 

I think it’s a good thing and will have little impact on prostitution 

Absolutely.

[scutty brown]

That’s your opinion of course

If it wasn't my opinion I wouldn't have said it....

[scutty brown]

This will give an idea of why this law isn't going to work. It's obviously written by someone in the pron industry who has a lot to use, but the main arguments are fairly sound
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[Rose_128]

I am just wondering, if the government already knows ( some ) kids may try to use VPN to access various content, what are they going to do about that? Make them criminally responsible as a deterrent? I don't think they have the answers themselves.

[webpunter]

This will give an idea of why this law isn't going to work. It's obviously written by someone in the pron industry who has a lot to use, but the main arguments are fairly sound
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Pretty balanced
Loads of porn websites still work no problemo
Either no checks or are you over 18 answer yes crack on

The act won't be repealed as it will show the extent of how inept the Govt are [& the same for the fucktards they employ to generate the legislation]
When there was the brexit crisis issue over goods ferries from france the Govt panicked & set about organising ferries
Britanny Ferries a bunch of french cunts they cant be relied on
The Govt give £20m+ to a company who have no experience of running ferries no ships & their T&Cs copied from a local kebab shop 
'I saw you coming' 

You cant make it up as to how useless Governments [whichever party] are

Its not a political post as unless i'm mistaken the ferry debacle on the tories & the online safety act down to labour

[pbrown355]

I posted similarly on another of these threads:-
1 Is there measurable proof of harm to minors (and I don't mean anecdotes)?
2 How is this law intended to prevent the cause of the harm (if harm is provable)
3 Will this have the desired effect?
4 How are you going to measure the reduction (or the lack of it) in harm?

I've looked for info on points 1, 2 and 3. I can see what its proponents think is the answer to 2. To me, the jury seems firmly out on 1. As for 3, most of the sage voices seem to think it won't stop young people from finding whatever they are looking for on the internet.
And 4, I can't find a plan anywhere to do this.

Any of you well informed guys out there who can help with any of the above?

[JontyR]

Its not a political post as unless i'm mistaken the ferry debacle on the tories & the online safety act down to labour

You are mistaken, it's a political post. That's like saying "its not a football post because it mentions both United and City."

[JontyR]

I posted similarly on another of these threads:-
1 Is there measurable proof of harm to minors (and I don't mean anecdotes)?
2 How is this law intended to prevent the cause of the harm (if harm is provable)
3 Will this have the desired effect?
4 How are you going to measure the reduction (or the lack of it) in harm?

I've looked for info on points 1, 2 and 3. I can see what its proponents think is the answer to 2. To me, the jury seems firmly out on 1. As for 3, most of the sage voices seem to think it won't stop young people from finding whatever they are looking for on the internet.
And 4, I can't find a plan anywhere to do this.

Any of you well informed guys out there who can help with any of the above?

I'm not going to spend a lot of time going into academic studies relating to your number 1. But the jury isn't really out at all. The research will be increasing significantly in the post covid envrionment, but the impacts and demands on a range of services  (education, health, police) is significant.
2. The solution makes much more sense if you view this as a public health issue. The counter arguments are actually remarkably similar too but carry a lot less weight when you view them in this light. "Kids can still buy booze if they get a false ID" "If you stop kids getting fags from the corner shop they'll endup going to the local drug dealer"
3. Not in every case, no. But it will have an effect. As ever, those who are determined to do something - they will find a way. Heck look at all of us here. But it may make the gateway for others more difficult or "normal" going forward. What will not be addressed directly on this will be where kids still get access to things via their parents accounts or usage. (the equivalent of taking a snifter from the decanter or nicking a fag out of the unattended box). Porn usage is so normalised in some domestic situations that it is mentioned specifically in safeguarding training as a form of abuse.
4. I'd expect there to be a lot of research done, its made for dissertations and doctorates.

[JontyR]

There are always unintended consequences.

I think one that may arrive here is that there will become a more open, more honest and more responsible attitude to pornography and sex work within the UK.

[Iloveoral]

Politics will get you banned
Last warning

There’s a thread for that shit

[webpunter]

Politics will get you banned
Last warning

There’s a thread for that shit

Duly noted
Apologies

[pbrown355]

ILO, is your post aimed at me as well? I didn't intend my post to be political and would like to respond to the response to my post. If you think it is political I'll post in the politics thread.
Thanks in advance

[Northerndave666]

I won’t be signing 

I think it’s a good thing and will have little impact on prostitution 

Until the next piece of Legislation bans online promotion of prostitution if course. Too late to complain about diminished freedoms then.

[finn5555]

Until the next piece of Legislation bans online promotion of prostitution if course. Too late to complain about diminished freedoms then.

Pure speculation    besides there will always be prostitution 

[chadpitt]

I won’t be signing 

I think it’s a good thing and will have little impact on prostitution 

Have a fun time sifting through blurred photos or risk giving your personal data away. Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you.

[finn5555]

Have a fun time sifting through blurred photos or risk giving your personal data away. Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you.

What blurred photos 🤷🏼‍♂️ the only thing blurred here is you 🤣🤣

[Strawberry]

This is where it gets interesting;

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[Rose_128]

Thanks Strawberry. Now we can see why AW went over the top even though it's not a porn site as such. 

Sadly some girls are already reporting not getting any hits on their profiles ( maybe because of the pixelation ) even though you can see girls in lingerie on Instagram too....

[chadpitt]

What blurred photos 🤷🏼‍♂️ the only thing blurred here is you 🤣🤣

The blurred photos on vivastreet and adult work. You clearly don't pay attention

[finn5555]

The blurred photos on vivastreet and adult work. You clearly don't pay attention

Read again what I posted before posting you’re egotistical views 

You haven’t punted in nearly 2 years so why you worried about blurred photos 

And you’re right I don’t pay attention to melts like you 

[chadpitt]

Read again what I posted before posting you’re egotistical views 

You haven’t punted in nearly 2 years so why you worried about blurred photos 

And you’re right I don’t pay attention to melts like you 

You asked what blurred photos and it you had paid attention to what's happening you would know about it.

Nobody has need of your dimwitted ignorance