Author Topic: Virtually Retired from the scene but still get a kick from reading.  (Read 5784 times)

Online Little Ralph

Wonder what you all think of my situation. As i stated in post tittle, i am virtually retired from punting ( no fun in at least a year) due to age and health problems. I am still hoping for a comeback but not sure it will happen. Anyway reading about the exploits of you all keeps me entertained and reminds me of happier times. What do you think of this? Are there many others in my situation, who have become sort of literary voyeurs, and if so is it acceptable conduct?

Offline finn5555

Wonder what you all think of my situation. As i stated in post tittle, i am virtually retired from punting ( no fun in at least a year) due to age and health problems. I am still hoping for a comeback but not sure it will happen. Anyway reading about the exploits of you all keeps me entertained and reminds me of happier times. What do you think of this? Are there many others in my situation, who have become sort of literary voyeurs, and if so is it acceptable conduct?

Its a site for sharing, not for voyeurs  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Whilst I am sympathetic to your position, admitting you're becoming ( for want of a better word) a lurker isn't going to do you any favours.

The site only works through a regular input of new reviews, and indeed the Rules say that members are expected to contribute reviews.

Most recent bannings have been, almost exclusively, due to lack of reviews.

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Op - its not for other members to comment on whether that is acceptable or not - its up to the Mod team. we can only give our view/opinion. But like others, i suspect not - especially as you have only input 3 revews in 4 and a half years of being here and not contributed much to the various discussions that have occurred during your time here - you have a low "posts" number !

But the decision is with the Mods!

Online Charliehutton

Plenty of members post few if any reviews, but make terrific contributions to the forum in other ways, perhaps that might be the way forward.

Offline pbrown355

If someone is not punting but has history on here it does not bother me if they continue to be part of the community. I read all the punting abroad posts but have never punted abroad.
There is arguably a difference between lurking and leeching.
But, as others have said, not my decision.

Offline DastardlyDick

Whilst I am sympathetic to your position, admitting you're becoming ( for want of a better word) a lurker isn't going to do you any favours.

The site only works through a regular input of new reviews, and indeed the Rules say that members are expected to contribute reviews.

Most recent bannings have been, almost exclusively, due to lack of reviews.

I define a "lurker" as someone who uses the site to find and fuck SPs using reviews without leaving a review themselves, which the OP isn't doing, so he derives no "benefit" from the efforts and money of reviewers, but others may disagree.
Obviously, the Mods decision is final.

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You need to contribute to stay a member, unfortunately it’s not a library.
As a non member you can still view the site, thought it will be more limited.

27 Lurking / Dormant Accounts
Members who do not contribute Reviews or whose accounts have become dormant may have their membership revoked.

As mentioned, it’s a sharing site, and we only survive if members contribute.

Offline LLPunting

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You need to contribute to stay a member, unfortunately it’s not a library.
As a non member you can still view the site, thought it will be more limited.

27 Lurking / Dormant Accounts
Members who do not contribute Reviews or whose accounts have become dormant may have their membership revoked.

As mentioned, it’s a sharing site, and we only survive if members contribute.

If this is true there are an awful lot of registered accounts that do not seem to be contributing, will we ever see an accounting of actual active contributors and will there be an actual broadcast for all non-contributors to heed that a cull will be implemented?
If management are trying to protect income then perhaps a PAYG or significantly higher tariff could be charged to those not wanting to contribute with a cap on number of pages they can view in a given week or month?  This would fund a discounted rate for genuine sharers who are all that keep the site from failing.

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If this is true there are an awful lot of registered accounts that do not seem to be contributing, will we ever see an accounting of actual active contributors and will there be an actual broadcast for all non-contributors to heed that a cull will be implemented?
If management are trying to protect income then perhaps a PAYG or significantly higher tariff could be charged to those not wanting to contribute with a cap on number of pages they can view in a given week or month?  This would fund a discounted rate for genuine sharers who are all that keep the site from failing.
Each case is judged on an individual basis, post history and previous contributions are taken into account, a member who is unable to punt for any reason but has a history of useful contributions and reviews will be looked on more favourably than someone who has not made any useful contributions despite being a regular visitor to the site and has only posted 3 reviews, the last of which was over 2 years ago.

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If management are trying to protect income

We moderator to run the site, we have no interest in the finances of the site, paying/ non-paying members follow the same rules, get treated exactly the same, are expected to contribute the same regardless. It’s not a money thing at all, nothing further from the truth.

Offline puntingking

You need to contribute to stay a member, unfortunately it’s not a library.
As a non member you can still view the site, thought it will be more limited.

27 Lurking / Dormant Accounts
Members who do not contribute Reviews or whose accounts have become dormant may have their membership revoked.

As mentioned, it’s a sharing site, and we only survive if members contribute.

But if a non contribtutor stay quiet on here such as not posting nothing then they could be a member for years and the mods team don't/not able to pick them up through their lack of reviews.

I just found three ukp members who joined in 2019 in quick succession who have never posted, let alone contributing to this site.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=290262 - joined in auguest 2019 (no reviews)
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=280241 - joined in june 2019 (no reviews)
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=262223 - joined in febuary 2019 (no reviews)

these three members have never even posted, hence they will gladly stay in the dark without going notice to the mods team by their lack of contribution.

Does'nt seem right to me that a member who doesn't review but posts will get questioned by a mod and yet a member who doesn't post won't be questioned by the mod team  :unknown:

Offline Blackpool Rock

But if a non contribtutor stay quiet on here such as not posting nothing then they could be a member for years and the mods team don't/not able to pick them up through their lack of reviews.

I just found three ukp members who joined in 2019 in quick succession who have never posted, let alone contributing to this site.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=290262 - joined in auguest 2019 (no reviews)
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=280241 - joined in june 2019 (no reviews)
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=262223 - joined in febuary 2019 (no reviews)

these three members have never even posted, hence they will gladly stay in the dark without going notice to the mods team by their lack of contribution.

Does'nt seem right to me that a member who doesn't review but posts will get questioned by a mod and yet a member who doesn't post won't be questioned by the mod team  :unknown:
Well all 3 of those have logged in today so now probably sat thinking  :scare:   :D

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But if a non contribtutor stay quiet on here such as not posting nothing then they could be a member for years and the mods team don't/not able to pick them up through their lack of reviews.

I just found three ukp members who joined in 2019 in quick succession who have never posted, let alone contributing to this site.
Firstly why are you hunting out members who haven't contributed? it has nothing to do with you. You should concentrate on your own contributions.

Can you tell me how often the three you mention have logged into and used the site?  :unknown:

In case you aren't aware we have access to a full list of members which shows us when they joined, how many posts they have made, when they last logged in and from that we can see their login history which tells us how often they use the site.

Can you tell me what the difference is between a non member using the site to view reviews etc and a member who has never contributing using the site to view reviews etc.   :unknown:

Have a look at the PMs we send to members on a regular basis when we need to ask them questions but can't / don't want to do it on the open forum, oh wait you can't see that either can you?   :unknown:

Finally read reply #9
« Last Edit: July 25, 2025, 07:53:41 am by daviemac »

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But if a non contribtutor stay quiet on here such as not posting nothing then they could be a member for years and the mods team don't/not able to pick them up through their lack of reviews.


Too many warnings now, have a couple of weeks off, get back read this - next warning your gone for good, switch off and stop involving yourself in everything, especially digging up members that aren’t contributing, we are aware, do you think you see something we don’t?  :dash:
« Last Edit: July 25, 2025, 09:06:50 am by daviemac »

Offline DastardlyDick

Too many warnings now, have a couple of weeks off, get back read this - next warning your gone for good, switch off and stop involving yourself in everything, especially digging up members that aren’t contributing, we are aware, do you think you see something we don’t?  :dash:
On that note, isn't there a rule about "wanna be mods"?

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Hang on, you just suspended a guy for looking at available information on logged in users?    He asked how are their non-contributions policed if they never post (also valid is they posted (long ago) but weren't noticed).  That's not being a moderator.  Wtf guys?!

Offline jseop109

Well I'm not a mod so it's not up to me, but I'd say best of luck to you.

You're contributing financially by paying your subscription.

What would piss me off is people who use reviews on here to plan their own punts but never leave a review themselves. Takers, not givers. Since you don't punt any more that doesn't apply. Or who constantly ask for help without making a contribution. As a former punter maybe you have relevant recollections or insights. And since you have just outed yourself as a lurker, you are by definition no longer a lurker.

In my case I was a lurker for quite a while before posting, but my first post (IIRC) was a review. There can be a bit of a psychological barrier to overcome before sticking one's head above the parapet, so to speak.

As I say, not my decision, just my 2p worth. 

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Hang on, you just suspended a guy for looking at available information on logged in users?    He asked how are their non-contributions policed if they never post (also valid is they posted (long ago) but weren't noticed).  That's not being a moderator.  Wtf guys?!

Perhaps note the "too many warnings" comment - I believe he is a serial pain in the arse for the mods.

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Hang on, you just suspended a guy for looking at available information on logged in users?    He asked how are their non-contributions policed if they never post (also valid is they posted (long ago) but weren't noticed).  That's not being a moderator.  Wtf guys?!
Read reply #13, it explains a lot. Especially the first sentence, - "Firstly why are you hunting out members who haven't contributed?"

Quick question for you, do you know the full history behind the warnings he's had and the temporary ban?   :unknown:

Online Hornydevil666

This place amazes me sometimes, members try and contribute , post or comment something, ask a silly question etc and you get clowns ripping you to bits and slagging your option, so that member starts to be less involved and just "lurks" about then you get the mods on your case for not contributing, talk about rock and hard place.

The mods should spend a little more time reigning in the arseholes being trolls, ( but its ok because they contribute)

Incoming alert 28 day ban coming 🤣

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Read reply #13, it explains a lot. Especially the first sentence, - "Firstly why are you hunting out members who haven't contributed?"

Quick question for you, do you know the full history behind the warnings he's had and the temporary ban?   :unknown:

"hunting" might be as simple as randlomly clicking on the list of logged in members and just seeing if they have a review count and posted recently.  Your loaded term is overly accusatory in this context.

I'm aware of how you investigate individuals brought to your attention as we have discussed it on board and via dm previously.  That does not directly answer the question of proactively finding non-contributors. 
Site stats declare over 130k members, daily max recently was around 12k logins and the average daily member logins reported as about 2400.  Assuming these stats are true and derive from whatever reporting you guys have access to and from the sense that all of us get from browsing reviews and topics and seeing the chatter, noting who's chipping in, there's a motley crew of regular participants and then smatterings of a wider circle of occasional ones but very much less than many tens of thousands of different individual in the chorus.
If your reporting tools are showing that most of the 130k are indeed logging in and contributing useful intel and commentary then by all means post up a summary so all of us can see and be assured that everything is being done to ensure that the much fewer of us who share reviews aren't carrying the site whilst far more sponge off our goodwill.
Perhaps a clarification on membership by stating the number of grandfathered free subs and active subscriptions (paid terms ongoing) would give us all a better picture of how active the site is?  Weekly/monthly total page count racked up by non-registered visitors and registrees who haven't paid due subs?
I understand a fair number of accounts were grandfathered over at the change of ownership for (assumed/confessed) retirees but such a category surely cannot be the majority of a subscription site supposedly here to support active punting? 
Again if you have stats to show what the community is really made of it would be great to share that so again us contributing punters can get a sense of how many active fellows we can count on to broaden our punting scope per the raison d'etre of the site.
We all know there are only a few mods and it's near impossible to individually police every active user in just the sharing community of thousands.  Everyone respects what they have to do.  The impression was that the 30-day timer was meant to be an effective means of getting persons of interest to explain themselves or be ejected with reduced but certain admin by the mods.  It could also be an effective tool to flush the silent out of the bushes and stand-to to commit to contribute or not.
It would be in all our interests to discover if the vast majority using the site claim to be retirees/non-punters that enjoy the same unfettered access equivalent to active contributors.

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Perhaps note the "too many warnings" comment - I believe he is a serial pain in the arse for the mods.
:unknown:
Looked thru his posts for July and he didn't appear to be giving that much grief, mostly contributing, thanking and blathering inoffensively in the off topic areas.  One brush with DM that didn't seem to get any formal warning.
My own passing recollection of pk is that he's a contributor rather than trouble maker.

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"hunting" might be as simple as randlomly clicking on the list of logged in members and just seeing if they have a review count and posted recently.  Your loaded term is overly accusatory in this context.
I'll say it again, you have no idea what has gone on previously to him being temp banned and I for one don't think it would be right to publicise details of what has been effectively done in private.

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Looked thru his posts for July and he didn't appear to be giving that much grief, mostly contributing, thanking and blathering inoffensively in the off topic areas.  One brush with DM that didn't seem to get any formal warning.
My own passing recollection of pk is that he's a contributor rather than trouble maker.
One question for you now that you've looked through his post history.

What has he said in the many post reports he has made?    :unknown:

Sorry just to add to the same question, how far does he go back when reporting non contributers.  :unknown:
« Last Edit: July 25, 2025, 03:17:20 pm by daviemac »

Offline Avabar

I’m in a similar position. Stopped punting a few months back as I got in a new relationship that’s going really well so didn’t feel the urge. Do still like logging on and reading up on everyone else’s adventures though. And can sometimes contribute to a discussion on posts about a girl I may have seen before.

Offline big-al93

I’m in a similar position. Stopped punting a few months back as I got in a new relationship that’s going really well so didn’t feel the urge. Do still like logging on and reading up on everyone else’s adventures though. And can sometimes contribute to a discussion on posts about a girl I may have seen before.

Firstly, congratulations on the new relationship.  :hi:

However imho you are not really in a similar position, the OP has been unable to punt for medical reasons, you have not wanted or needed to because of your new partner, which is great, but still coming on here is potentially dangerous for you, either by being discovered posting and is your partner going to accept that you haven't punted since being together? Would be shocked to know you had previously used escorts?
Keeping logging in and reading the forum is a reminder of how easy it is, maybe when you have fallen out, to go and get what you want.
Obviously the genie can never go back in the lamp, but you don't have to keep polishing the lamp.

Either way hope it all works out for you.

Offline Avabar

Firstly, congratulations on the new relationship.  :hi:

However imho you are not really in a similar position, the OP has been unable to punt for medical reasons, you have not wanted or needed to because of your new partner, which is great, but still coming on here is potentially dangerous for you, either by being discovered posting and is your partner going to accept that you haven't punted since being together? Would be shocked to know you had previously used escorts?
Keeping logging in and reading the forum is a reminder of how easy it is, maybe when you have fallen out, to go and get what you want.
Obviously the genie can never go back in the lamp, but you don't have to keep polishing the lamp.

Cheers. She probably wouldn’t like me logging in here, but she’s not that computer savvy so doubt she’d ever see. I actually told her all about my punting past. Something I thought I’d never do.
Either way hope it all works out for you.
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Hang on, you just suspended a guy for looking at available information on logged in users?    He asked how are their non-contributions policed if they never post (also valid is they posted (long ago) but weren't noticed).  That's not being a moderator.  Wtf guys?!

No it’s a mixed bag of things he’s been warned for, numerous times that I don’t need to explain.

If you have an issue and don’t think I’m acting correctly report it, the boss will read matey

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The impression was that the 30-day timer was meant to be an effective means of getting persons of interest to explain themselves or be ejected with reduced but certain admin by the mods.
He’s not on a 30 day ban

Your arguing against a decision made by a moderator, that isn’t up for debate, suggesting you are trying to be a “wanna be mod” also, there’s room on the bench if you wish to join PK matey.
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 :hi: lurcher vs leachers Hmmm :rolleyes:
IMO
Lurcher is someone who reads the reveiws and maybe comments on forums.
Leachers are those who read the reveiws Acts on them which makes service provider busy  But doesn`t reveiw thus giving impression service provider might be contactable.

Example how leeches are impacting on a local flat
I ve reveiwed local flat and have seen the increse in footfall, bumping in to punters now at every time ive gone, its got like a Soho walkup  :unknown:

 :hi:  But Ive only seen a few reveiws all by same regular guys (that have also Pmed me  )
its so busy now neighbours know and its just gonna be a small slip and itll be shut down for sure ... :unknown:

Offline Northerndave666

But if a non contribtutor stay quiet on here such as not posting nothing then they could be a member for years and the mods team don't/not able to pick them up through their lack of reviews.

Bloody 'ell, it's the Stazi !  :D

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I’ve unbanned him, he can come back now, apologies in advance guys  :lol:

Offline Blackpool Rock

I’ve unbanned him, he can come back now, apologies in advance guys  :lol:
Yeah thanks for that, as I believe you'd say "Matey"  :rolleyes:  :D

Offline puntingking

I’ve unbanned him, he can come back now, apologies in advance guys  :lol:


Thanks for that.  :hi:

However, I understand why you gave me a temp ban in the first place.

I will leave the mods to do the moderating and I will stick to just being a member from now on  :hi:

No Hard feelings.  :drinks:


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No it’s a mixed bag of things he’s been warned for, numerous times that I don’t need to explain.


I agree, I have taken it on board.  :hi:

For members who are seeing this - ILO & daviemac have both gave me some warnings in the past for trying to be a mod before.

I can understand why ILO has given me a temp ban. It is worth nothing he did not give me a permanent ban but a temp ban and on reflection it may be an appropriate response in light of pass behaviour of me trying to "act like a mod".

I have taken this on board and so I will leave it at that  :drinks:


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I agree, I have taken it on board.  :hi:

For members who are seeing this - ILO & daviemac have both gave me some warnings in the past for trying to be a mod before.

I can understand why ILO has given me a temp ban. It is worth nothing he did not give me a permanent ban but a temp ban and on reflection it may be an appropriate response in light of pass behaviour of me trying to "act like a mod".

I have taken this on board and so I will leave it at that  :drinks:

Nice one  :hi:

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Thanks for that.  :hi:

However, I understand why you gave me a temp ban in the first place.

I will leave the mods to do the moderating and I will stick to just being a member from now on  :hi:

No Hard feelings.  :drinks:

Appreciated matey
It was quiet without you, so let you back early  :lol: :lol:  :drinks:

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I agree, I have taken it on board.  :hi:

For members who are seeing this - ILO & daviemac have both gave me some warnings in the past for trying to be a mod before.

I can understand why ILO has given me a temp ban. It is worth nothing he did not give me a permanent ban but a temp ban and on reflection it may be an appropriate response in light of pass behaviour of me trying to "act like a mod".

I have taken this on board and so I will leave it at that  :drinks:
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What has he said in the many post reports he has made?    :unknown:


Being able to view post reports used to be the most entertaining part of this site, sadly missed, by me anyway.

You'd have people giving it the big'un on the forum and then crying to Admin in the reports for back up, without realising they would then be visible.

Guessing they were removed as part of the drive to make the place friendlier, but they did cause a few laughs at the time 🤣

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Being able to view post reports used to be the most entertaining part of this site, sadly missed, by me anyway.

You'd have people giving it the big'un on the forum and then crying to Admin in the reports for back up, without realising they would then be visible.

Guessing they were removed as part of the drive to make the place friendlier, but they did cause a few laughs at the time 🤣
The trouble was people would bring what was reported up on the open forum which cause some issues and some things should be kept private.

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Appreciated matey
It was quiet without you, so let you back early  :lol: :lol:  :drinks:

it is nice to know you missed me  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Offline lewisjones23

The trouble was people would bring what was reported up on the open forum which cause some issues and some things should be kept private.

Fair points

Offline Blackpool Rock

The trouble was people would bring what was reported up on the open forum which cause some issues and some things should be kept private.
I don't recall if everyone could read them but many years ago Old Admin gave sight of post reports to a lot of people, the problem was that dozens of people would read them and then there was a free for all pile on of the OP for what was often a minor transgression which then resulted in a banning of a member who in  reality could have been a good productive part of the forum.

Thankfully we've largely moved on from the bear pit way of doing things  :thumbsup:

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Thankfully we've largely moved on from the bear pit way of doing things  :thumbsup:


I thought the forum was a lot funnier back then, but I've got a thick skin and don't let words on the internet get to me.

Can understand why the mentality shifted, times change


Offline Blackpool Rock

I thought the forum was a lot funnier back then, but I've got a thick skin and don't let words on the internet get to me.

Can understand why the mentality shifted, times change
Well yes I do agree with you that there was some quite funny stuff that used to get posted and I do miss some of the banter but on the flip side i'm sure a lot of people got banned for reacting to the baiters

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Well yes I do agree with you that there was some quite funny stuff that used to get posted and I do miss some of the banter but on the flip side i'm sure a lot of people got banned for reacting to the baiters

Yeah 100%, they'd get piled on and then lash out as a form of defence

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banter is only banter when it is recognised and accepted as banter by BOTH sides. a lot of it was not banter - just plain rude and/or aggressive and mainly was an opportunity for the "wolf pack" to assemble and target someone!

it was far more toxic in those days and i for one am glad they have mainly gone!