Find My Phone Warning and a rookie mistake

[LeedsGent]

On another thread about not being caught Punting (I can’t remember which one , would update it), I mentioned that turning off mobile data while on a punt would show you at the location where you turned it off.  I have been using this trick for years and until now has worked perfectly.  I would go to meet a “supplier” at a Costa Coffee and turn my data off.  I would walk around the corner to the hotel for a punt or to meet my SB.  I would then turn the data back on as I walked back past the Costa.  If the OH had been looking at Find My Phone.  She would have just seen me in meeting in Costa for 2 hours.  If I had been seen by someone in that area I had a ready-made excuse.
Here is the warning.  I have just upgraded my iPhone to a 16.  It appears that iPhone 14 and above tell your wife where you are when the data is switched off, via satellite.  Fortunately, I was not caught in a hotel where I should not have been.  I was in places that I should not have been and when asked my reply did not match the location on Find My Phone, I was busted.  This led to a huge argument.  I was planning on leaving wife in a few weeks anyway.  I was out and about looking at apartments.  This incident has brought forward my departure to now.  It could have been a lot worse.

[stevesucks69]

Not sure how worse it could be though, you've effectively been busted and she's not buying it.
Been there and I don't have find phone live on any of mine

[Stevelondon]

If I were in a relationship where my OH was asking to know where I was all of the time.
I’d be seriously thinking….    “Why”

I like to know where my luggage is.
I like to know where my car is.
That’s about as far as it goes.

Why I need someone else to know where I am. I don’t get that.

[fatboy]

+1 me too...

[PilotMan]

If I were in a relationship where my OH was asking to know where I was all of the time.
I’d be seriously thinking….    “Why”

I like to know where my luggage is.
I like to know where my car is.
That’s about as far as it goes.

Why I need someone else to know where I am. I don’t get that.

Could depend on relationship history and previous trust issues.

Every relationship is different, people are different, circumstances are different.

[LLPunting]

If you're in a relationship where you're being tracked against your will then you're deluding yourself that you can make it work; the relationship or cheating on it.

[Demon8]

Why are you being monitored anyway? Seems like the relationship was dead in the water a long time ago.

[Blackpool Rock]

Why are you being monitored anyway? Seems like the relationship was dead in the water a long time ago.

Exactly there was either suspicion or lack of trust etc to begin with, if a man did this to his wife he'd be accused of controlling or coercive behaviour etc or similar

Then again I guess her suspicions were actually right   

[newhere456]

She's sussed there's something going on - just a matter of time before you are caught out. 

Even if you are able to sort out your phone, it wouldn't take much for her to slip an airtag into your jacket/car/briefcase etc.

[Doc Holliday]

For anyone who isn't aware of the history here, then this thread needs to be read in conjunction with others that LeedsGent has started, in particular this one

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=428835.0

He has updated the above thread last night

[RandomGuy99]

See point 2 External Link/Members Only

[Thehatedone]

Why are you being monitored anyway? Seems like the relationship was dead in the water a long time ago.

Not speaking on behalf of op at all
And he doesnt need to speak about his personal relationship
But I can see myself being in a similar situation some day or worse
Some people just have suspicious and possessive partners
Its not something we did that drives their suspicion but how they are wired
We decide that we love them enough to stay with them
I have a very possessive partner with mental health issues (bpd, ocd and ptsd)
I think she will definitely hurt me if she found out I have sexual relations with other women wnd see escorts
If I look at a woman on the street she jokes why am I looking at that lady and not her? Am I thinking to cheat?
I am fortunately *very* unfortunate looking so that actually works sometimes for me
I tell her who would want me?
But she is still super suspicious
Few days ago
I came home late
She was angry as I ignored her texts for few hours (dead phone)
She insisted on smelling my penis
One time I borrowed her car to go punting and started getting alerts on my smartphone about some apple airtag had been detected by my device
I think she tried to stalk me
Lucky I took a detour
And never burrowed her car again
She is also sending me texts to check up on me every hour
Yes it gets exhausting but when you build a deep bond with someone you can easily justify or overlook their quirks and just work around them
Rather than waste energy on conflict that risks eroding the connection

[Cheltclient]

Not speaking on behalf of op at all
And he doesnt need to speak about his personal relationship
But I can see myself being in a similar situation some day or worse
Some people just have suspicious and possessive partners
Its not something we did that drives their suspicion but how they are wired
We decide that we love them enough to stay with them
I have a very possessive partner with mental health issues (bpd, ocd and ptsd)
I think she will definitely hurt me if she found out I have sexual relations with other women wnd see escorts
If I look at a woman on the street she jokes why am I looking at that lady and not her? Am I thinking to cheat?
I am fortunately *very* unfortunate looking so that actually works sometimes for me
I tell her who would want me?
But she is still super suspicious
Few days ago
I came home late
She was angry as I ignored her texts for few hours (dead phone)
She insisted on smelling my penis
One time I borrowed her car to go punting and started getting alerts on my smartphone about some apple airtag had been detected by my device
I think she tried to stalk me
Lucky I took a detour
And never burrowed her car again
She is also sending me texts to check up on me every hour
Yes it gets exhausting but when you build a deep bond with someone you can easily justify or overlook their quirks and just work around them
Rather than waste energy on conflict that risks eroding the connection

Hmmm these don’t sound like quirks. Just possessiveness. But I guess if she doesn’t trust you, then she’s right, as you’re seeing escorts. That’s no judgment btw. I’m not pretending to know all about your relationship from one post. But fair play to you - sounds exhausting and not sure I’d stick around (says the eternally single guy)

Asking to smell your cock though? That is excessive. Hope you had cleaned it

[campkh]

I think it is not about "switching off data", but about "sharing my location".
 

[deg_dilemma]

Hmmm these don’t sound like quirks. Just possessiveness. But I guess if she doesn’t trust you, then she’s right, as you’re seeing escorts. That’s no judgment btw. I’m not pretending to know all about your relationship from one post. But fair play to you - sounds exhausting and not sure I’d stick around (says the eternally single guy)

Asking to smell your cock though? That is excessive. Hope you had cleaned it

Yes that's one horrible relationship to be stuck in, regardless of how 'unfortunate' looking he is.

As for cock smelling, it's a service I often ask SPs to do for me   

[stevesucks69]

Not speaking on behalf of op at all
And he doesnt need to speak about his personal relationship
But I can see myself being in a similar situation some day or worse
Some people just have suspicious and possessive partners
Its not something we did that drives their suspicion but how they are wired
We decide that we love them enough to stay with them
I have a very possessive partner with mental health issues (bpd, ocd and ptsd)
I think she will definitely hurt me if she found out I have sexual relations with other women wnd see escorts
If I look at a woman on the street she jokes why am I looking at that lady and not her? Am I thinking to cheat?
I am fortunately *very* unfortunate looking so that actually works sometimes for me
I tell her who would want me?
But she is still super suspicious
Few days ago
I came home late
She was angry as I ignored her texts for few hours (dead phone)
She insisted on smelling my penis
One time I borrowed her car to go punting and started getting alerts on my smartphone about some apple airtag had been detected by my device
I think she tried to stalk me
Lucky I took a detour
And never burrowed her car again
She is also sending me texts to check up on me every hour
Yes it gets exhausting but when you build a deep bond with someone you can easily justify or overlook their quirks and just work around them
Rather than waste energy on conflict that risks eroding the connection

Hope she's getting the professional help she needs too

[PilotMan]

Not speaking on behalf of op at all
And he doesnt need to speak about his personal relationship
But I can see myself being in a similar situation some day or worse
Some people just have suspicious and possessive partners
Its not something we did that drives their suspicion but how they are wired
We decide that we love them enough to stay with them
I have a very possessive partner with mental health issues (bpd, ocd and ptsd)
I think she will definitely hurt me if she found out I have sexual relations with other women wnd see escorts
If I look at a woman on the street she jokes why am I looking at that lady and not her? Am I thinking to cheat?
I am fortunately *very* unfortunate looking so that actually works sometimes for me
I tell her who would want me?
But she is still super suspicious
Few days ago
I came home late
She was angry as I ignored her texts for few hours (dead phone)
She insisted on smelling my penis
One time I borrowed her car to go punting and started getting alerts on my smartphone about some apple airtag had been detected by my device
I think she tried to stalk me
Lucky I took a detour
And never burrowed her car again
She is also sending me texts to check up on me every hour
Yes it gets exhausting but when you build a deep bond with someone you can easily justify or overlook their quirks and just work around them
Rather than waste energy on conflict that risks eroding the connection

I was in a similar on / off relationship, I stopped punting during the relationship and did my best to allay any fears she had. I even gave her access to my CCTV at work!

She also had Bi-Polar traits (undiagnosed), one minute she would be loving, sweet, soft and gentle, the next she was uncontrollably mad and irrational. I would get accused of looking at women constantly, when it wasn't the case. I literally had to keep my eyes and head straight in public places.

We got in to a serious altercation one night after she berated me for taking a sweet from a restaurant hostess at the door when were leaving. She just went crazy, and started ripping her clothes off, slapping and punching herself (alcohol played a part in it). I ran out of the apartment and tried to get away, but she followed me naked in to the street (Central London). The neighbours called the police, I was arrested and spent a night in the cells.

After that she vowed not to drink, which she did follow through on, but it didn't stop the insanity, just the physical attacks.

There were many more crazy things that went on, like making me leave the apartment at XMAS. It was very late and I couldn't get booked in to a hotel, so I ended up sleeping in my car on Boxing Day.

As @Thehatedone says, some people are just wired that way, but as much as you love someone and a large part of the relationship is great, the bad bits are debilitating.
 
In my case, I couldn't see that the behaviour would ever stop, no matter what I did, so after 3 years on / off the relationship came to an end. I do think about her all the time, but I have to remind myself of the crazy shit, to get grounded.

[HS4000Kestral]

Reminds me of a close shave I had once - I was using both my own phone and punting phone at the same time - made the mistake of texting my wife to say "in Eastville at the moment will be there in 15" - which was a message to an SP.

My wife texted back asking "what does that mean"

Luckily enough I said that "Eastville" was the name given to a meeting room and the message was to a collegaue saying I'd be finished in 15 and be back at my desk and I'd text my her instead of my colleague.

Luckily enough she believed me!

[Cheltclient]

Reminds me of a close shave I had once - I was using both my own phone and punting phone at the same time - made the mistake of texting my wife to say "in Eastville at the moment will be there in 15" - which was a message to an SP.

My wife texted back asking "what does that mean"

Luckily enough I said that "Eastville" was the name given to a meeting room and the message was to a collegaue saying I'd be finished in 15 and be back at my desk and I'd text my her instead of my colleague.

Luckily enough she believed me!

Fuck me you were lucky. Imagine if you added ‘can’t wait’ or ‘don’t forget to wear the slutty thong’

[PilotMan]

Not sure about iPhone, but there's any Android App called "Fake GPS Route".

You can spoof your location.

If I'm going on a punt, I set my location to my house. If anyone checks then it says I'm at home; I just put it down to the technology not being perfect.

[bigboy96]

It seems that I am very lucky in having a wife who has zero interest in technology! I go out for the day once or twice a week, and for local walks on some other days.   The vast majority of times I'm good when I'm out, with just the occasional massage.  That suits me fine.

[lewisjones23]

She insisted on smelling my penis

🤣🤣🤣 what are you playing at putting up with that madness?

[Stevelondon]

Smelling cock.
If I were you mate. I’d fuck an SP’s ass. If your partner wants to smell your cock then. Just admit it,
“Yes I’m gay”

See how she deals with that. 

[Stevelondon]

Could depend on relationship history and previous trust issues.

Every relationship is different, people are different, circumstances are different.

Trust is what makes a relationship work.

Even if that trust is hidden discreetly 

You shouldn’t be together if you both need to keep an eye on each other. 🤷🏼

[Taxidriver1111]

Before I ever started punting, an ex of mine smelt my cock when i was late home from work(taxidriver). I didn't stay in that relationship long.

[Lou2019]

Just a word of warning, some of the information you’ve posted could be very outing.

[mrwhite]

just don't share your location with the OH from the outset.

Neither I nor SWMBO have ever shared our location with each other - it just never came up.

[Cheltclient]

Just a word of warning, some of the information you’ve posted could be very outing.

A very good warning. Was thinking the same thing.

[LeedsGent]

Exactly there was either suspicion or lack of trust etc to begin with, if a man did this to his wife he'd be accused of controlling or coercive behaviour etc or similar

Then again I guess her suspicions were actually right   

We started sharing our locations years ago, when things were better. It was never an issue for me, until I started punting.

My defence, all be it a poor once. If she had wanted to have sex with me I would not be outsourcing the job.

[Stevelondon]

Just a word of warning, some of the information you’ve posted could be very outing.

This thread has really got me thinking.
I’ve penned a message to an agony aunt on that Loose Women telly programme.

“Dear Aunt Beryl,
So my partner clips an apple tag to my ear every time I leave the house.
The cars got a tracker fitted.
She double locks my cock in a chastity cage and as soon as I get back from wherever I’ve been. The retired drug sniffer dog she got from the Met. Stuff’s it’s nose into my y-fronts.

Am I right in having suspicions that she may be experiencing trust issues”

[Mark.wilmots]

A lot of replies on this thread are assuming the worst intention from his partner and shows that a lot of you are still single care free men (enjoy!)

I will say this is common practice for safety and security reasons to share ones location with your partner and a lot of the time nothing to do with trust issues (though there should be some if you're married and on this forum!)

I used this trick in past as described and have also needed to update. If any of you overly judgmental gents ever find yourself in a similar situation in the future and itching for punt:

Use an old iphone/ipad (no sim needed) and log into your Apple account and in the "Me" section of the Find My app you, there is an option to select "Use This iPhone as My Location" that once selected will change the tracking to the old device (no notification is sent to the people following you) leaving you to roam freely with your current device without tracking. The key is to leave the old device somewhere discreet (I leave it at work so it looks like i'm working late into the night) so the Costa trick won't work anymore, you can get creative with places and won't share all my tricks. Once finished with the punt, use your current device to change the location back once you're on the way home. Pick up the device the next day. 

[Cheltclient]

A lot of replies on this thread are assuming the worst intention from his partner and shows that a lot of you are still single care free men (enjoy!)

I will say this is common practice for safety and security reasons to share ones location with your partner and a lot of the time nothing to do with trust issues (though there should be some if you're married and on this forum!)

I used this trick in past as described and have also needed to update. If any of you overly judgmental gents ever find yourself in a similar situation in the future and itching for punt:

Use an old iphone/ipad (no sim needed) and log into your Apple account and in the "Me" section of the Find My app you, there is an option to select "Use This iPhone as My Location" that once selected will change the tracking to the old device (no notification is sent to the people following you) leaving you to roam freely with your current device without tracking. The key is to leave the old device somewhere discreet (I leave it at work so it looks like i'm working late into the night) so the Costa trick won't work anymore, you can get creative with places and won't share all my tricks. Once finished with the punt, use your current device to change the location back once you're on the way home. Pick up the device the next day.

A lot of people have this function on. I guess it depends on how you use it. I recall my last civvie relationship, we had it on, but I can’t speak for her but I rarely used it. I recall once she was with family and said she may be home at a certain time and I recall checking it as her parents lived an hour away and if she was still there, I had time to do something else. The only other time I recall using it was when she lost her phone and we had to find it. Of course, I didn’t mind mine being on as in a relationship, I never cheat and never use escorts.

But if you are constantly checking each others whereabouts - does suggest trust issues.

[hairdownthere]

A lot of replies on this thread are assuming the worst intention from his partner and shows that a lot of you are still single care free men (enjoy!)

I will say this is common practice for safety and security reasons to share ones location with your partner and a lot of the time nothing to do with trust issues (though there should be some if you're married and on this forum!)

I used this trick in past as described and have also needed to update. If any of you overly judgmental gents ever find yourself in a similar situation in the future and itching for punt:

Use an old iphone/ipad (no sim needed) and log into your Apple account and in the "Me" section of the Find My app you, there is an option to select "Use This iPhone as My Location" that once selected will change the tracking to the old device (no notification is sent to the people following you) leaving you to roam freely with your current device without tracking. The key is to leave the old device somewhere discreet (I leave it at work so it looks like i'm working late into the night) so the Costa trick won't work anymore, you can get creative with places and won't share all my tricks. Once finished with the punt, use your current device to change the location back once you're on the way home. Pick up the device the next day.

I don't know a single person who does this

[PilotMan]

I don't know a single person who does this

I know plenty.

Many women are concerned about being attacked or something happening to them, particularly if you work alone.

Not everyone has things to hide, many people want to be in touch with their loved ones.

[webpunter]

A lot of people have this function on. I guess it depends on how you use it. I recall my last civvie relationship, we had it on, but I can’t speak for her but I rarely used it. I recall once she was with family and said she may be home at a certain time and I recall checking it as her parents lived an hour away and if she was still there, I had time to do something else. The only other time I recall using it was when she lost her phone and we had to find it. Of course, I didn’t mind mine being on as in a relationship, I never cheat and never use escorts.

But if you are constantly checking each others whereabouts - does suggest trust issues.

I suppose you think that noshing a trannie with CIM [in yours] & not quite getting done up the gary [despite trying] doesn't count

Its not a TS piss take - i've done a post + reviewed and a one off FAF you cant tell pre is on to do list [tho no CIM & no backdoor action on me]

[Stevelondon]

A lot of replies on this thread are assuming the worst intention from his partner and shows that a lot of you are still single care free men (enjoy!)

I will say this is common practice for safety and security reasons to share ones location with your partner and a lot of the time nothing to do with trust issues (though there should be some if you're married and on this forum!)

I used this trick in past as described and have also needed to update. If any of you overly judgmental gents ever find yourself in a similar situation in the future and itching for punt:

Use an old iphone/ipad (no sim needed) and log into your Apple account and in the "Me" section of the Find My app you, there is an option to select "Use This iPhone as My Location" that once selected will change the tracking to the old device (no notification is sent to the people following you) leaving you to roam freely with your current device without tracking. The key is to leave the old device somewhere discreet (I leave it at work so it looks like i'm working late into the night) so the Costa trick won't work anymore, you can get creative with places and won't share all my tricks. Once finished with the punt, use your current device to change the location back once you're on the way home. Pick up the device the next day.

I’d give up punting if I had to go through all that crap.
It’s just more stuff to worry about.



What did we all do before all this tech wizardry anyway. 🤷🏼

[Stevelondon]

I know plenty.

Many women are concerned about being attacked or something happening to them, particularly if you work alone.

Not everyone has things to hide, many people want to be in touch with their loved ones.

Does this tracking app tell you when your wife/gf/whatever…….is being attacked. ?

I’m not taking the mick here.
Yes I understand if maybe you want to know where your kids are etc.

[PilotMan]

Does this tracking app tell you when your wife/gf/whatever…….is being attacked. ?

I’m not taking the mick here.
Yes I understand if maybe you want to know where your kids are etc.

Nope, just watch a few true crime programmes / podcasts and you'll get the drift.

[Lilywhite]

Does this tracking app tell you when your wife/gf/whatever…….is being attacked. ?

I’m not taking the mick here.
Yes I understand if maybe you want to know where your kids are etc.

Actually there is a function on the newer phones that can detect impact onto the phone and automatically opens up something that asks if you're ok and if you don't reply it calls emergency services. I think it's mostly for car accidents though.

[Stevelondon]

Actually there is a function on the newer phones that can detect impact onto the phone and automatically opens up something that asks if you're ok and if you don't reply it calls emergency services. I think it's mostly for car accidents though.

Jeez……… what happens you drop your phone over the edge of a bridge. It hits the ground hard enough to call emergency services. But your up on the bridge unable to get to it.
Hopefully it will be the fire brigade that attends to help get your phone back. 😂

[Stevelondon]

Nope, just watch a few true crime programmes / podcasts and you'll get the drift.

Nope I’m busy.     You tell me.

[Cheltclient]

I suppose you think that noshing a trannie with CIM [in yours] & not quite getting done up the gary [despite trying] doesn't count

Its not a TS piss take - i've done a post + reviewed and a one off FAF you cant tell pre is on to do list [tho no CIM & no backdoor action on me]

Not quite following what you are trying to get at here. But for clarity, I’ve not been in a relationship for a long time and every review I have on here has been where I’ve been single. So … er … yeah … it doesn’t count … as I’m single … so that booking has nothing to do with anything on this thread.

[PilotMan]

Nope I’m busy.     You tell me.

Nope, I'm not your secretary. You asked the question, you do the leg work.

I'm more busy than you anyway 

[Stevelondon]

Nope, I'm not your secretary. You asked the question, you do the leg work.

I'm more busy than you anyway 

 

Ok I did some research.
I’ve still no idea what you are on about.
I’ll have a word with my secretary after this blow job. 

[LeedsGent]

A lot of replies on this thread are assuming the worst intention from his partner and shows that a lot of you are still single care free men (enjoy!)

I will say this is common practice for safety and security reasons to share ones location with your partner and a lot of the time nothing to do with trust issues (though there should be some if you're married and on this forum!)

I used this trick in past as described and have also needed to update. If any of you overly judgmental gents ever find yourself in a similar situation in the future and itching for punt:

Use an old iphone/ipad (no sim needed) and log into your Apple account and in the "Me" section of the Find My app you, there is an option to select "Use This iPhone as My Location" that once selected will change the tracking to the old device (no notification is sent to the people following you) leaving you to roam freely with your current device without tracking. The key is to leave the old device somewhere discreet (I leave it at work so it looks like i'm working late into the night) so the Costa trick won't work anymore, you can get creative with places and won't share all my tricks. Once finished with the punt, use your current device to change the location back once you're on the way home. Pick up the device the next day.

Fantastic idea, love it thank you.  If you could have told me that a couple of weeks ago it would have helped me out.  I am hoping that it will not be an issue going forward for me. I should not need to resort to such measures.

[Stevelondon]

Fantastic idea, love it thank you.  If you could have told me that a couple of weeks ago it would have helped me out.  I am hoping that it will not be an issue going forward for me. I should not need to resort to such measures.

You mean you’re going to be single. 🤷🏼

[markballoon]

A lot of replies on this thread are assuming the worst intention from his partner and shows that a lot of you are still single care free men (enjoy!)

I will say this is common practice for safety and security reasons to share ones location with your partner and a lot of the time nothing to do with trust issues (though there should be some if you're married and on this forum!)

I used this trick in past as described and have also needed to update. If any of you overly judgmental gents ever find yourself in a similar situation in the future and itching for punt:

Use an old iphone/ipad (no sim needed) and log into your Apple account and in the "Me" section of the Find My app you, there is an option to select "Use This iPhone as My Location" that once selected will change the tracking to the old device (no notification is sent to the people following you) leaving you to roam freely with your current device without tracking. The key is to leave the old device somewhere discreet (I leave it at work so it looks like i'm working late into the night) so the Costa trick won't work anymore, you can get creative with places and won't share all my tricks. Once finished with the punt, use your current device to change the location back once you're on the way home. Pick up the device the next day.

  If he done this with an old iphone the he could turn the data off on that like he used to do and keep it with him.

[magnetico]

.  I have just upgraded my iPhone to a 16.  It appears that iPhone 14 and above tell your wife where you are when the data is switched off, via satellite.  Fortunately, I was not caught in a hotel where I should not have been. 

Am I being thick?


Your wife would only know that there's no data, she won't get the location of the hotel isn't it?

[Mstar86]

Am I being thick?


Your wife would only know that there's no data, she won't get the location of the hotel isn't it?

I think he’s saying that it doesn’t need data as it uses GPS which is a Global Positioning Satellite system that doesn’t need data/internet etc

[Stevelondon]

There are wives all over the country asking their men,
“But why can’t I have a mobile phone”