How do you see your percentage of good versus bad punts?

[Massagetugga]

I was thinking about this recently. For me I think 55-60% good and 40-45% bad/instantly forgettable. I was going to say 50/50 but I think they’re generally a bit better than that. From a brief look (minus using maths on my reviews) my review scores reflect my thoughts. The more recent reviews are probably more accurate too so the older ones would maybe make the percentages wrong (with having more experience and different expectations as time goes on).

Just interested in others broad opinion based on thoughts more than review stats. We all know you all too often come out thinking “that was sh1t” for x, y, or z reason/s.

[alabama1]

90% positive for me, due to me doing my homework ! 

[Massagetugga]

90% positive for me, due to me doing my homework ! 

Nice one. That obviously helps but personally speaking it seems to often not go as well as expected due to factors like rapport/chemistry, maybe a cold room, sometimes likes of a stressful start if you’re struggling to find somewhere or get let in. That sort of thing that homework might not always mean it goes as you hope.

[Jujy78]

Id say in my almost 30 years of punting it's been 70/30 overall 70 being good. But I don't think there's any formula to it. Yes you can go by popular reviews but you might just end up having a bad experience with someone with positive review and vice versa. I might be going off topic slightly but I always thought ones appearance also matters like if you're good looking with a good physique you might get a better service than an old fat bloke I could be wrong. It's a topic I've always wanted to discuss tbh

[southern punter]

Looking at my notes, 37% of SPs seen were "bad punts".  But as a percentage of punts it's down at about 17% because I return to the better SPs many times and don't return to bad ones.

That might be on the harsh side, sweeping some punts that were average and forgettable, but not really BAD bad, into the "bad" category.  On the other hand I need a "good/forgettable" category.  I have positive reviews noting that the SP was good looking, good convo, good shagger ect but five years later I can't remember a thing about it.

Stats and review notes aside I think maybe 10-20% actually bad, 20-25% memorably brilliant, the rest left me happy enough on the day.

[southcoastpunter]

Looking at my notes, 37% of SPs seen were "bad punts".  But as a percentage of punts it's down at about 17% because I return to the better SPs many times and don't return to bad ones.

Stats and review notes aside I think maybe 10-20% actually bad, 20-25% memorably brilliant, the rest left me happy enough on the day.

do you really do that? I can't understand why guys keep spreadsheets or hotlists etc - just seems like a load of unnecessary administration / work to me! isn't it just a case of "i liked her, i'll see her again" or for whatever reason, "no, i won't see her again"?

[southern punter]

I can't understand why guys play fantasy football - just seems like a load of unnecessary administration / work to me!  isn't it just a case of "Salah's a decent player" or for whatever reason, "I fucking hate City"?

[scouting]

90% positive for me, due to me doing my homework ! 

Yeah I'm on the same wavelength. Maybe some of the 90% will drift a bit to so-so due to chemistry, but certainly research on here keeps bad punts to a minimum.

[Bunbury]

90% positive for me, due to me doing my homework ! 

That’s the secret in this game, research, research, research
It does have its draw backs though. A SP looks tasty and you check on here and it’s a hand job that day.

[dub6747]

For me, my best punting days were in the mid 200s to around 2012...no forums like this, not many pics etc and it was pure luck turning up to see who was on and trying out different parlours

I think the game changed with AW and forums like this. Not saying this is a bad thing but the naivety went and for me led to finding regulars which changed the game again for me

Can't beat a good regular girl. In the past 10 years I've tried new girls but none of them give what a good regular gives you

So, nowadays, when I stray from the regulars I'd say since covid it's 10% ok and 90% shite but when the thought of a regular was never in my head it was probably 70% good, 10% shite and 20% weird af 😂

[ForkEscort]

For me, my best punting days were in the mid 200s to around 2012

this is an incredible amount of time to be punting for. what were the roman SPs like?

[Blackpool Rock]

this is an incredible amount of time to be punting for. what were the roman SPs like?

Orgies mainly i'd guess with Roman showers 

[Blackpool Rock]

That’s the secret in this game, research, research, research
It does have its draw backs though. A SP looks tasty and you check on here and it’s a hand job that day.

Yes research on here is crucial and reading reviews has helped me to avoid quite a few girls, in fact i've looked at reviews only to find that i've given the girl a Negative a year or so before and forgotten about her 

The problem however with only seeing well reviewed girls is that you never see a brand new girl and TOFTT, if everyone did the same then we'd end up with the same 5 or 6 girls being punted and reviewed on here 

The proportion of good / bad will vary for every punter even if they see the same girls as different punters have different expectations and easily / hard to please however IMO all punts should be classed as Neutral until the SP moves the punt up to a Positive or down to a Negative

I'm sure if I went back through and added up my review stats then there would be roughly a 33.3% split between Negative; Neutral and Positive

[Stevelondon]

Orgies mainly i'd guess with Roman showers 

Being younger I can’t go that far back. But I’d have to say every Italian lass I’ve met has been very good. 

I’m far to lazy to even attempt a percentage figure never mind work out how to do a spread sheet thingy. As for checking my notes. Do people keep notes ?
Will they be hidden inside the cover of the bible next to the secret punting phone. 🤷🏼

I’ve no idea what my good/bad/indifferent ratio is.
I’m probably the kind of bloke who if, let’s say. Was having a succession of poor punts. Would start by looking into why my research was going wrong.

But as the question is a lot simpler than that.
Sorry….. just don’t know. 🤪

[Fush]

Well you know mine - 50/50 Interesting to read others though.

[Chazz]

Of my 77 reviews on here, only 9 have been neutral or negative, so that's about 11% poor, 89% good. In fact, the only really bad punt that I've had was early on before I joined UKP, so the moral here is do your homework!

[Chazz]

Well you know mine - 50/50 Interesting to read others though.

[simon07]

I will go with the Pareto effect and say 80% have been very good. As I try and screen, my percentage is probably nudging higher. Of my really poor I think around 5%. Gut feeling of course. Still  its all good in this hobby

[superchamp]

Well the data is all on here isn't it? If you look at London reviews page '1' I'd say roughly 2/3rd's are positive. If you wind back randomly to a page 5 years ago it's pretty similar. A few more years back again and the page still looks pretty much the same, to me.

[akauya]

Respect to the spreadsheet warriors and data analysts out here logging punting stats. Me? I'm a simple man and operate on vibes. It's either 'great', 'ugh', or 'meh'.

Keeping spreadsheets of my experiences sounds a bit anal to me - which I prefer to experience with WGs rather than with my computer

But I find your dedication to stats commendable 

[HS4000Kestral]

I rate punts on 3 criteria - Person, Experience & Value for Money - each gets a rating out of 10 and then a final score.

76% have a score OVER 7 which I would take as acceptable.

[Upsndowns79]

I’m definitely in the 90% plus positive category and as stated largely down to research and me been pretty risk averse. Punted over 30 different girls in about a year and had about 100 occasions (had a few regulars).

Of the 30 girls there are only 2 I can think of that I’d say were negative (and even then they were probably more neutral) and both of them were not researched so quite literally a “punt”. I’d say that there are another 4 or 5 that were borderline neutral/positive but again they were largely down to the chemistry not quite been there rather than a moody SP or them turning out to be a minger.

Having said all that if everyone punted like me this place wouldn’t have the wealth of info it has as we need the brave souls that TOFTT.

[simon07]

That is true as every new WG is a TOFFT. Otherwise we have to work on likely probabilities based on Nationalities, assumed true photos etc. Viva street remains is a gamble. Agency hot gals in London may not be value for money.
The WGs are getting older and Milfy.

[Massagetugga]

I think my ratio at the start of this thread is more based on new my new TOFTT tryouts when I think about it. A few regs have generally gotten most of my cash and the experiences there are fine rather than really good or definitely bad.

But unfortunately (or fortunately) depending on how you look at it variety is the spice of life n all that.

[GoodLookinGuy]

Very high probably 90%+. Maybe I'm easy to please or maybe just do my homework.

[WingCommander]

Early in my punting career, my good/bad ratio was about 30/70. A fair few hot Brazilians. Then after a year or two, I started prioritising different things. Since then it's about 80/20.

Now it's far less about how hot she is, much more about attitude, enthusiasm, and crucially, good English. I won't see anyone non-British unless I read on here that she has good enough English for a decent conversation. We've all had punts conducted through google translate - have any of them felt satisfying when walking back to the car?

If she turns out to be hot as well, happy days, she might become a regular.

For me, it all hinges on what happens immediately after sex. This is what shapes the impression that lingers in the mind afterwards. Do we have a nice convo, or does post nut clarity kick in, and make the whole thing feel awkward. If it's an hour or more meet, I will have ideally got to know her a bit on arrival, resisting the urge to get stuck in. It pays off later.

[GreyDave]

I used to keep a book of details ect.. I threw that when I worked out one day how much id spent  funnily Ive been on here ten years and have made 93 reveiws Ive seen some of these WG Ive reveiwed a few times extra so ill call it 100 punts 15 Neutrals I say equal to a Soho pump dump 77 Enjojable fun punts  and 8 Negatives were I felt BS ed and played if I want to be glass half fullish about then 93% Ok punts or glass half empty (this time putting the Neutruals with the Negatives ) 25% Bad punt experiance...

I am 64 and been doing this 40+ years now Id say for me the past few years have been Golden Age Punting I am enjoying it and intend to keep trying until cash and ability run out .

Writing this feeling melancholic and sad as went to a memorial service for a Gentleman who I worked with for 7-8 years or so.
53 years old slim healthy fit guy dropped dead heart attack No warning .... another worker found him slumped at his desk , he had gone in early  Its the thing that pisses me off about aging more than anything constantly seeing people around me fall of this perch of life...I remember having a drink with him for his 50th  and him saying ^We are lucky to of got to 50 many previous generations of men in UK did not get that far,,,, a walk back though a graveyard with some Servicemens graves with their ages on Smashes the reality of luck in my face...God we are lucky

[Dad_Bod]

Imagine you drop dead of a heart attack tomorrow and a loved-one has to log onto your computer in their role as executor of your estate or whatever and they find your spreadsheet. Do you really want your family's overwhelming memory of you to be of "Uncle John, the guy who kept a spreadsheet of all the ladies he'd paid to sleep with*"? Why create a trail or proof that leads back to you and your activities? It's like a serial killer keeping trinkets....logically it just makes no sense and it's often their undoing.

* a family member of mine had to go to the funeral of a guy who'd lead a brilliant life, first as a respected scientist then as a politician. All of that is forgotten in every conversation when he's mentioned now, simply because he died shortly after getting a blow job in a brothel and the press had a field day taking statements from the girl who had refused to sleep with him because he was "too old" and how his final words after getting a brief BJ were "that was nice" just prior to having a fatal heart attack. His wife and daughters couldn't look anyone in the eye at the funeral, and my relative felt like they assumed that every man in attendance at the funeral had known about their Dad's activities (when of course, nobody had known). If your spreadsheets became public knowledge after your death, that would be you - remembered for your one hobby rather than anything else you may have achieved. Keep it all upstairs in your noggin for the love of God.

[GreyDave]

  Dad Bod...not sure if the post was for making me think about my record keeping which now is up in the internet and all the stuff ive written here and the feed back ive gotten under another name on AW site..

I did have a small book which I had several years of adventure and costs numbers scrawled in as I walked the path of this punting life then one day I added it up and it made me quite ill about how much time and money had gone I chucked it and had only written on computer sites since nothing is kept on spread sheets....After a break (perhaps a few months ) I discovered the Sports classified and return to Punting with Couples and parties ...It was though parties and swinging I was told of this site and AW and Id say for the last 11 years my punting experiances have been the sort as Henry Royce says " The Quaity remains after the price has been forgoten" ...Punters version ,,,, One for the WankBank you can remember Obviosly Ive a few Shite ones that I still have etched in my mind ( two fat lesbinans my 1st duo bloody expensive for me a weeks wage for less than 20mins ) and a few scary ones ...and almost Historic Punter experiances I was chucked out by Linda St Clair Miss Whiplash in her Earls Court basement and refused when a teenager for being to young at a Stretham party although I did get to go of to a local WG  Some of the older guys on here might remember who ran those..

I have noticed over the years enjoyable posters on here go silent and never return ...as I said I hope to carry on till either cash or pills run out , I expect Ill run out before 

[GreyDave]

  Sorry I tried to add this to the above post but time rang out ..

The Question what percentage of Punts can only be answered if you have kept a record of some kind,       other wise its just a guess 

And then there is the Posts to reveiws question and that old chesnut lenght of time member to reveiws 
Cash vs Satisfaction...Quailty over quantity (personally Im of the  Ted Cohen school .. Pile em high n cheap )

[jimbobted]

50% shit or totally forgettable. 40% ok. 5-10% amazing.

[GreyDave]

50% shit or totally forgettable. 40% ok. 5-10% amazing.

I just checked out your reveiws matey  12 Negative 10 Netrual and 21 Positive on here any ways

Your figures here would be something like 43 % Amazing ( if possitive is highest) 24 % OK (netrual ) and 33% forgetable or Shite

Youve done yorself down Lad it looks like you are haveing a better time than you think ( well on here anyways ) You might have a book or spread sheet of others which is depressing you a bit like my old one 

All Best 

[mills_and_bhuna]

Respect to the spreadsheet warriors and data analysts out here logging punting stats. Me? I'm a simple man and operate on vibes. It's either 'great', 'ugh', or 'meh'.

Keeping spreadsheets of my experiences sounds a bit anal to me - which I prefer to experience with WGs rather than with my computer

But I find your dedication to stats commendable 

I always have a laugh when these threads start.
The best ones are the tick off ones. Countries. Regions . Etcetera.
An insight into the male brain or at least the autistic or OCD part of it.
And before anyone starts I can recognise tendencies I have to suppress in myself.
Any not allowed interlopers on reconaissance missions must be astounded and amused .

[GreyDave]

I always have a laugh when these threads start.
The best ones are the tick off ones. Countries. Regions . Etcetera.
An insight into the male brain or at least the autistic or OCD part of it.
And before anyone starts I can recognise tendencies I have to suppress in myself.
Any not allowed interlopers on reconaissance missions must be astounded and amused .

I have to point out my OCD  sees your sentences above getting longer....    ( wish my cock would  )

[Juniordossantos]

40% positive for me. Although I have a pretty low sample size as I’ve not been in the punting game for long.

[WelshClipper]

Very hard to say, very subjective.

My answer is I get something out of most punts so 100% good from that perspective.

Example 1 saw a size 18+ a while back who advertised as a 12 BUT Her tits were absolutely fantastic. So I just buried my face and didn’t look at the rest.

Example 2 saw a well know Romanian who used to twist away when she suspected you coming. Something about not wanting the orgasm inside her fanny or some such nonsense. I managed to remain inside until the job was done and I was quite proud of myself.

Every cloud etc etc 

[Ivor Hunch]

 Why create a trail or proof that leads back to you and your activities?

what, like by posting on a punting forum??

[Thehatedone]

90% are pure gar bage

[Ivor Hunch]

Very hard to say, very subjective.

Example 2 saw a well know Romanian who used to twist away when she suspected you coming. Something about not wanting the orgasm inside her fanny or some such nonsense. I managed to remain inside until the job was done and I was quite proud of myself.

very hard to say, as quite ambiguous, but sounds a wee bit non consensual.

[WelshClipper]

very hard to say, as quite ambiguous, but sounds a wee bit non consensual.

I understand your concern and if she had said no and thrown me off, I would have obeyed.
It was more a squirming around and all very gentle, just a bit off putting.
Plus in the heat of the moment, you don’t expect it.
Difficult one.

But it’s a grey area I agree. 

[stevesucks69]

90% are pure gar bage

Why you doing it then 🤡

[JonasG]

95% good I'd say.

But i don't do TOFTTs anymore and just stick to well reviewed girls on here, so the chance of a good punt is very high.

[markballoon]

As i onyl see 3 regulars mine are all just hmmmm Ok.  I need to start seeing others but it pisses me off when you have a bad punt you walk away feeling a right prick for picking the wrong one.

[Colston36]

Sorry I tried to add this to the above post but time rang out ..

The Question what percentage of Punts can only be answered if you have kept a record of some kind,       other wise its just a guess 

And then there is the Posts to reveiws question and that old chesnut lenght of time member to reveiws 
Cash vs Satisfaction...Quailty over quantity (personally Im of the  Ted Cohen school .. Pile em high n cheap )

I have had so few bad experiences I don't need a spreadsheet. Like some others on here, I know what I want and don't bother seeing anyone who doesn't provide it.

[alabama1]

As i onyl see 3 regulars mine are all just hmmmm Ok.  I need to start seeing others but it pisses me off when you have a bad punt you walk away feeling a right prick for picking the wrong one.

You are completely missing the essence/fun of punting, if you are just staying with safe regulars. By your very admission, they are just 'hmmmmm'. Get out there and TOFTT. You may well end up disappointed, but you will at least get the adrenaline rush as the door is opened, which is more than you are getting now.

[Herts_Outcaller]

Most of mine are really good. Even the worst ones are mostly just OK rather than disastrous.

It's not just research. It's being a good punter that gets you better service. preparing yourself right, shaving your face and pubes, showering before, Using aftershave, being polite to the woman.

And once you've had enough punts, you also get the hang of the sex side of it as well, knowing what you're going to enjoy and how to go about it.

[petermisc]

You are completely missing the essence/fun of punting, if you are just staying with safe regulars. By your very admission, they are just 'hmmmmm'. Get out there and TOFTT. You may well end up disappointed, but you will at least get the adrenaline rush as the door is opened, which is more than you are getting now.

Everyone wants something different out of punting.  I doubt I have ever got much of an adrenaline buzz as the door is opened, more a dread of what I am going to find.  I used to get quite a buzz from the build up to seeing a girl that I have fantasised about, but experience has taught me that is a sure road to disappointment.  No girl ever lives up to the fantasy. 

I measure my punts by whether or not I leave with the feeling that was a waste of time and money, or if I look back with a spring in my step.  I have a number of SPs that I see regularly, depending on their availability, who I can be reasonably confident I will leave having enjoyed my time with them.  I do agree that seeing someone regularly who only gives you a hmmm feeling sounds like settling for second best.  I would be casting my net wider for something better than that.

If none of my regulars are available, and noone on my to-do list, I will take a lucky dip at one of the Chinese switch joints.  Have had an unexpectedly high success rate at such joints lately.  And in response to a previous poster, some of those successes have been with girls who have had very limited English, and have needed to use a translate app.  In my experience, all SPs understand the basics (suck, condom, sex, doggy, massage, etc) - what kind of rapport you get is more about how you treat each other than what you say.

So my punting success rate is very high, as most of my punts are with regulars (I am not going to make up some ridiculous percentage estimate).  My success rate with girls I have not seen before is significantly lower, which is why I tend to stick with my regulars.

However, my approach these days is tempered by the fact that I now live in a punting desert, and have to travel a long way to somewhere with reasonable punting opportunities, usually involving me staying overnight in a hotel.  So if a punt is a wipe out, I will have wasted significant time and money.  Which probably makes me more risk averse than most.

[jseop109]

Looking at my reviews, I have marked about 80% of them positive. Only two negative, and one of those was for a no-show.

I notice too that positives way outnumber negatives in others' reviews.

One reason perhaps is that when you post a review, the default is positive, so to change it requires a positive action, even though just one mouse click. If I have a punt that wasn't brilliant - perhaps the chemistry wasn't there - I will tend to leave it as a positive but include as much relevant info in the body of the review as I can. Plus I tend to be a glass-half-full chap and look for positives. If the WG has a reasonable attitude I would tend to leave it as a positive.

But also it shows how valuable this site is in enabling many of us to dodge bad experiences. Before I started on here I had quite a few definite negatives.   

[waymilky77]

Mine are close to 90% positive. First UK punt was a disaster which kept me away for 6 months. Then I've stuck to always going with tried and tested SPs on here. Have made 3 bad spur of the moment decisions since the first disaster on SPs with no review and 3 more disasters... will put a review of the recent one up soon

[scutty brown]

this is an incredible amount of time to be punting for. what were the roman SPs like?

The Romans used slaves, often captured prisoners of war. A lot of them probably came from the barbarians north/east of the Rhine