SAAFE forum, denied access

[campkh]

It is a SP forum. I used to be able to have a read, but now I can’t. Anybody else has experienced the same thing?

[RandomGuy99]

still works for me

[scutty brown]

It is a SP forum. I used to be able to have a read, but now I can’t. Anybody else has experienced the same thing?

You've been Amy'd. She doesn't like men on her forum.
But FWIW it's working OK

[campkh]

Used this link now, it is okay to read.

She can only block some newbies.

[campkh]

Before I was getting this on my Microsoft Edge:

"Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!
SAAFE is not a punting site - you've had plenty of time to nose around and as you're apparently not going to attempt a post, you've long since overstayed your welcome.
This ban is not set to expire."

Now I use Google Chrome okay.

[daviemac]

11 Other punting forums
Discussing other punting forums is not prohibited, but many are often very hostile. Other forums are also anti-punters; therefore, it is not in punters' interests to give them publicity. Posting links to other sites is prohibited, as is slagging off. Use your noodle. We are allowing links in the Punting Abroad section.

SAAFE is very much anti UKP.

[campkh]

You've been Amy'd. She doesn't like men on her forum.
But FWIW it's working OK

Bit odd! It is our men to use their service.

Turned out she blocked my home IP which is normally fixed till next router restart, and once I am outside using a mobile data, the access is fine.

What a loser!

[puntingking]

11 Other punting forums
Discussing other punting forums is not prohibited, but many are often very hostile. Other forums are also anti-punters; therefore, it is not in punters' interests to give them publicity. Posting links to other sites is prohibited, as is slagging off. Use your noodle. We are allowing links in the Punting Abroad section.

SAAFE is very much anti UKP.

Not sure why they are anti UKP, I am not anti SAAFE 

[daviemac]

Not sure why they are anti UKP, I am not anti SAAFE 

That doesn't surprise me.

[scutty brown]

Not sure why they are anti UKP, I am not anti SAAFE 

It's a discussion forum for sex workers, most of whom are female. Not for punters.
You're presumably neither a sex worker nor a female so you don't fit their criteria.

[daviemac]

It's a discussion forum for sex workers, most of whom are female. Not for punters.
You're presumably neither a sex worker nor a female so you don't fit their criteria.

Not forgetting the number of escorts who hate UKP as well as Amy hating anyone who doesn't conform to her rules.

[scutty brown]

Truth is there's relatively little on there that's of real relevance to us anyway.
There's a section on warnings which can be a bit of an eye-opener as regards how bad some punters can be.
Other than that the only section which really is of interest to us is member-only anyway so we can't see: a section about AdultWork and how shit they are as a service. That's an area where we could usefully contribute, but it's only a tiny part of the forum and they don't want us so let them get on with it.

[lewisjones23]

Amy is a bitter old crank

Hates punters to her core and hates more than anything that she needs us

[akauya]

I don't read SAAFE very often but that forum made me realise just how much WGs go through on the job. Their section of warnings opened my eyes as how weird/dangerous some punters can be. How they manage some demanding punters. How sometimes they struggle to find places to work from. How they will be affected by the law. There are so many stories of being threatened or robbed. They put themselves in a very vulnerable situation to earn a living.

It's easy to forget that behind the job, the sexy lingerie, come and fuck me ads, WGs are just ordinary people trying to earn a living like the rest of us.

And before anyone jumps on me, of course I don't think they all WGs are angels, some are definitely out there who take advantage of punters and have very little opinion of us - just like some punters have a very low opinion of WGs.

It's a bit of a reality check and quite an education too; I think every punter should have a look at their forum from time to time.

[puntingking]

just like some punters have a very low opinion of WGs.

Some sps also have a very low opinion on punters (or men in general). You can get that in all walks of life, nothing different here.

However I did nosed on there just now and a escort tells a story of a punter who left without paying the escort 

[akauya]

just like some punters have a very low opinion of WGs.

Some sps also have a very low opinion on punters (or men in general). You can get that in all walks of life, nothing different here.

However I did nosed on there just now and a escort report tells a story of a punter who left without paying the escort 

Did you miss my whole sentence on purpose just to tell me what I already said? "And before anyone jumps on me, of course I don't think they all WGs are angels, some are definitely out there who take advantage of punters and have very little opinion of us - just like some punters have a very low opinion of WGs."

[puntingking]

Some sps also have a very low opinion on punters (or men in general). You can get that in all walks of life, nothing different here.

However I did nosed on there just now and a escort report tells a story of a punter who left without paying the escort 


Did you miss my whole sentence on purpose just to tell me what I already said? "And before anyone jumps on me, of course I don't think they all WGs are angels, some are definitely out there who take advantage of punters and have very little opinion of us - just like some punters have a very low opinion of WGs."

Apologies, I read it completely and now it makes sense in what you were saying. 

[Lou2019]

I don't read SAAFE very often but that forum made me realise just how much WGs go through on the job. Their section of warnings opened my eyes as how weird/dangerous some punters can be. How they manage some demanding punters. How sometimes they struggle to find places to work from. How they will be affected by the law. There are so many stories of being threatened or robbed. They put themselves in a very vulnerable situation to earn a living.

It's easy to forget that behind the job, the sexy lingerie, come and fuck me ads, WGs are just ordinary people trying to earn a living like the rest of us.

And before anyone jumps on me, of course I don't think they all WGs are angels, some are definitely out there who take advantage of punters and have very little opinion of us - just like some punters have a very low opinion of WGs.

It's a bit of a reality check and quite an education too; I think every punter should have a look at their forum from time to time.

 

[Lou2019]

Some sps also have a very low opinion on punters (or men in general). You can get that in all walks of life, nothing different here.

However I did nosed on there just now and a escort tells a story of a punter who left without paying the escort 

And that’s one of the least worse things that can happen !!!

[JohnsonSchlong]

There's some terrifying stuff on that forum - girls reporting being beaten after sex and having the money stolen back, one woman describes a punter attempting to rape her bareback, another describes ‘forced CIM‘. Multiple posts titled ‘Condom Remover Bristol’,  ‘Condom Remover London’ etc etc... Fucking scary.

[PilotMan]

There's some terrifying stuff on that forum - girls reporting being beaten after sex and having the money stolen back, one woman describes a punter attempting to rape her bareback, another describes ‘forced CIM‘. Multiple posts titled ‘Condom Remover Bristol’,  ‘Condom Remover London’ etc etc... Fucking scary.

Some of the things SP's have told me seem beyond belief that people behave in such a way, but we know the world is full of horrible cunts. SP's are vulnerable because of how they have been poorly maligned by society / Police over many years. So cunts do what they do with perceived impunity.

[JohnsonSchlong]

Cunts is exactly what I was thinking they are when I was reading all that. It's a shame they are able to remain anonymous because I'm sure most of us would be quite happy to 'regulate' these cunts in order to help keep the SP's a little safer.

Some of the things SP's have told me seem beyond belief that people behave in such a way, but we know the world is full of horrible cunts. SP's are vulnerable because of how they have been poorly maligned by society / Police over many years. So cunts do what they do with perceived impunity.

[finn5555]

Agree what some have to experience is pretty horrific 

The section called Slow at the minute or just me? makes me laugh, maybe if they had reasonable prices and didn't look like a bulldog chewing a wasp they wouldn't be so quiet 

[advent2016]

Rarely use it. Just tried, it enforced a password reset, seems to work.

[Lilywhite]

And that’s one of the least worse things that can happen !!!

Right? Being robbed is always anger inducing but I'd rather that that any number of the things I hear daily.

[akauya]

Some of the things SP's have told me seem beyond belief that people behave in such a way, but we know the world is full of horrible cunts. SP's are vulnerable because of how they have been poorly maligned by society / Police over many years. So cunts do what they do with perceived impunity.

Yes, I heard similar stories from Brazilian girls about weird punters and also getting robbed a lot. They have their own support network via WhatsApp but the most they can do is share the details of the robbing cunts and warn their friends as they won't go to the police for help. The saddest thing I found was that the foreign girls seemed to be more afraid of the police than the robbers/violent punters, etc.

[Blackpool Rock]

Yes, I heard similar stories from Brazilian girls about weird punters and also getting robbed a lot. They have their own support network via WhatsApp but the most they can do is share the details of the robbing cunts and warn their friends as they won't go to the police for help. The saddest thing I found was that the foreign girls seemed to be more afraid of the police than the robbers/violent punters, etc.

A Thai girl recently told me in Blackpool that she was quiet when I asked if she was busy, it then transpired that she had had quite a few enquiries but had cross checked the numbers somewhere and let's say filtered the majority out as they were flagged on some sort of list

While I do think it's good that girls are able to check numbers to filter out potential bad guys it's also quite sad that there were apparently so many that had to be filtered out 

[daviemac]

A Thai girl recently told me in Blackpool that she was quiet when I asked if she was busy, it then transpired that she had had quite a few enquiries but had cross checked the numbers somewhere and let's say filtered the majority out as they were flagged on some sort of list

While I do think it's good that girls are able to check numbers to filter out potential bad guys it's also quite sad that there were apparently so many that had to be filtered out 

There's no way to check phone numbers on SAAFE, they don't allow the full number to be posted, it's ClientEye where they can check for bad reports.

[scutty brown]

And when you're reading SAAFE just remember that what happens to the most vulnerable girls like the Chinese, Brazilians, Romanians and Albanians (and others who have little or no English) never gets reported on there. By its very nature foreign girls can't use it and most probably don't even know about it.
For instance, red paint isn't all the Chinese girls have to worry about - and some of it is pretty unpleasant

[MLawro93]

A Thai girl recently told me in Blackpool that she was quiet when I asked if she was busy, it then transpired that she had had quite a few enquiries but had cross checked the numbers somewhere and let's say filtered the majority out as they were flagged on some sort of list

While I do think it's good that girls are able to check numbers to filter out potential bad guys it's also quite sad that there were apparently so many that had to be filtered out 

Easy and cheap to use a new number, could just be the same people who keep doing it.

Don't see an issue with Amy being so anti-UKP, she is totally on the side of the SP, and well, at least someone is. They get treated like shit as it is and that isn't fair.

It is always eye opening seeing some of the reports on SAAFE, some right cunts in this world.

[puntingking]

While I do think it's good that girls are able to check numbers to filter out potential bad guys it's also quite sad that there were apparently so many that had to be filtered out 

what happens though if they bin their existing mobile number which allows that number to enter circulation and then get given to another "good" punter but he finds it hard to see sps as that number is flagged up because of some bad guy who had that number in the past.
This could actually happen 

[puntingking]

Easy and cheap to use a new number,

And if all bad punters who don't change and see the errors of their ways keep changing numbers this could eventually affect well meaning and good punters as they could actually end up with their number when it enters citculation after the bad punter keep changing their number.

This could happen, There are only so many numbers to go around.

One of my old numbers I used to use is now given to somebody else to use by the mobile provider.

[daviemac]

Don't see an issue with Amy being so anti-UKP, she is totally on the side of the SP, and well, at least someone is.

Unfortunately there's an awful lot of escorts who would disagree with that. Her site could do so much more for escorts if she let it.

[MLawro93]

Unfortunately there's an awful lot of escorts who would disagree with that. Her site could do so much more for escorts if she let it.

Always figured she would be a popular figure, interesting to know she isn't.

I never realised it was entirely her site. A bit much to manage it altogether solo!

[scutty brown]

Always figured she would be a popular figure, interesting to know she isn't.

I never realised it was entirely her site. A bit much to manage it altogether solo!

If you read the site history and interpret between the lines it looks like she was the last woman standing after a war of attrition between the original founding team. Does look like she has some other admins working with her now, but they all seem to have her mindset

[daviemac]

Always figured she would be a popular figure, interesting to know she isn't.

I never realised it was entirely her site. A bit much to manage it altogether solo!

'Hitler in knickers' I think is the term some SPs use to describe her.

[puntingking]

Unfortunately there's an awful lot of escorts who would disagree with that. Her site could do so much more for escorts if she let it.

Despite being an anti UKP, why else is Amy (SAAFE) so bad? 

[daviemac]

Despite being an anti UKP, why else is Amy (SAAFE) so bad? 

From what I've been told by more than one escort it's the way she runs the site, issues warnings for no reason, removes posts that she doesn't agree with, won't let some warnings be posted, the list goes on.

I doubt very much you'll get any SPs commenting about her on this thread, if she sees it she would ban them.

[Lou2019]

That’s pretty much spot on Davie, it’s her way or no way

[Blackpool Rock]

That’s pretty much spot on Davie, it’s her way or no way

So Lou are you on there, correction were you on there   

[JohnsonSchlong]

Excuse me if this is obvious to everyone else - what do you mean by ''red paint isn't all the Chinese girls have to worry about''?

And when you're reading SAAFE just remember that what happens to the most vulnerable girls like the Chinese, Brazilians, Romanians and Albanians (and others who have little or no English) never gets reported on there. By its very nature foreign girls can't use it and most probably don't even know about it.
For instance, red paint isn't all the Chinese girls have to worry about - and some of it is pretty unpleasant

[Lilywhite]

Excuse me if this is obvious to everyone else - what do you mean by ''red paint isn't all the Chinese girls have to worry about''?

Some Chinese massage places have had red paint thrown on them in some English towns.

[JohnsonSchlong]

I did not know that - thanks

Some Chinese massage places have had red paint thrown on them in some English towns.

[daviemac]

I did not know that - thanks

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=425775.0

[Lou2019]

So Lou are you on there, correction were you on there   

Until I piss her off again 

[scutty brown]

Until I piss her off again 

Until next week then?

She is scary looking though

[Lou2019]

Until next week then?