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Offline Babu

Is the Leeds punting scene dead?

Seem to remember a decade or so ago there was several agencies with decent WGs - IK, Bunnies, Playmates etc. Now it just seems to be Northern Belles.

Independent WGs - again just seems to be less available and the quality providers (SweetCandice for example) are now charging £180hr!

Not sure what other people think? Look in the review section and there's not many in Leeds nowadays.

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For the size of the city Leeds is very poor. Sheffield, Doncaster, Barnsley, Huddersfield all get better tourers but even then not as many as Derby, Leicester, Nottingham.

In terms of the permanent girls, like you say the well established ones like Candice, Sasha23Didsbury, Lizzy_s are all 180 plus and whilst they are all IMO worth it as they provide great consistency it soon adds up.

Manchester by comparison has loads of SP’s with similar reputations at the £140/150 bracket. (For example Eliza Fitness).

I guess the question is why?

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Certainly has been a dearth of new faces, especially British ones, setting up shop in Leeds, although weirdly last week or so have seen more profiles pop up that not seen before but then seem to go a few days later.

Don’t get as many tourers nowadays too and can’t quite put finger on why. Does seem they are trying to make Leeds more of a ‘student city’ what with new student flats being put right in the city centre where The Core shopping centre used to be. Maybe we’ll start seeing more uni student SPs popping up  :unknown:

Offline redmist81

I seem to remember a new agency appearing called noir / noir ladies
Maybe worth a look
I miss the parlours that were around in the late nineties
Seems strange how the angels parlour on Hunslet Road is operating an all the others weren't allowed

Offline Adoniron

I seem to remember a new agency appearing called noir / noir ladies
Maybe worth a look
I miss the parlours that were around in the late nineties
Seems strange how the angels parlour on Hunslet Road is operating an all the others weren't allowed

The lack of a parlour scene really reduces the options. There are lots of parlours in Sheffield and Manchester but West Yorkshire Police have completely killed them off in Leeds.

Offline gazyates86

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I have used this agency before and had some great meetings.
A while since I used them but Delilah and Farah stand out in my memory

Offline Jomoore

There are lots of parlours in Sheffield and Manchester but West Yorkshire Police have completely killed them off in Leeds.

Is it the police?  Or is it the licencing authority, ie Leeds city council who are the problem?

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I have used this agency before and had some great meetings.
A while since I used them but Delilah and Farah stand out in my memory

I've heard mixed reviews and when I tried to book an incall I was asked for a deposit which is a no-no for me.

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Certainly has been a dearth of new faces, especially British ones, setting up shop in Leeds, although weirdly last week or so have seen more profiles pop up that not seen before but then seem to go a few days later.

Don’t get as many tourers nowadays too and can’t quite put finger on why. Does seem they are trying to make Leeds more of a ‘student city’ what with new student flats being put right in the city centre where The Core shopping centre used to be. Maybe we’ll start seeing more uni student SPs popping up  :unknown:

Definitely fewer British SPs it seems like. Don't know if the younger ones are more on Seeking Arrangements. The current agencies don't appear to have the same quality as the ones killed off by the pandemic, IK, McKenzies, Bunnies.

Offline banshee121

Leeds has been awful after covid. So many girls packed it in and not many reliable newbies have popped up.

It isn't popular with touring girls, i'm not sure why. A while back I was punting in Manchester and I met a touring girl when I asked her if she plans to visit Leeds she didn't seem keen and mentioned she found it more expensive for accommodation and apparently wasn't getting the foot traffic she gets from the other big cities she tours.

Offline anonyorks

Leeds has been awful after covid. So many girls packed it in and not many reliable newbies have popped up.

It isn't popular with touring girls, i'm not sure why. A while back I was punting in Manchester and I met a touring girl when I asked her if she plans to visit Leeds she didn't seem keen and mentioned she found it more expensive for accommodation and apparently wasn't getting the foot traffic she gets from the other big cities she tours.

This, also price increases are fine however service quality has decreased massively. I've had a crap time every time I've tried someone new so stuck to favourites who are thankfully still around.

Offline Sir Robin

Unfortunately been thinking exactly the same with Sheffield!

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Unfortunately been thinking exactly the same with Sheffield!

Sheffield is miles better than Leeds. Multiple parlours, miles more tourers plus Barnsley and Donny on the door step with more choice.

Offline Babu

Does seem they are trying to make Leeds more of a ‘student city’ what with new student flats being put right in the city centre where The Core shopping centre used to be. Maybe we’ll start seeing more uni student SPs popping up  :unknown:

We can only hope!

Offline Babu

Don't know if the younger ones are more on Seeking Arrangements.

That might be it.

Got mixed feelings about SA. Had some great sex with ladies off there but the amount of time and effort it takes is consuming. I got kicked off for propositioning on there and never went back.

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For the sake of nostalgia I wish I could remember where all the Leeds parlours were. I think I can remember 10 and I visited 9 of them. I think there were more than 10 though.

There was Mayfair and Tudor in the centre of Leeds. There was Winstons on Wellington Street before it moved to Beeston. There was one on Kirkstall Rd near the Cardigan Arms and another in the same area but on the other side of the road. Then further up Kirkstall Rd was Gemini. There was one on Christopher Rd in the Woodhouse area. There was one at Whinbrook Crescent just off Scott Hall Road not far from Moortown, I don't think I visited that one but was aware of it. There was one near Crosby Rd/Elland Road overlooking the M621. Where was that 24hr parlour in the long terrace block? Was that in Holbeck or Armley? I wish I could remember.
Can anyone remember where the others were?

Offline redmist81

Some other parlours
Were
Club133 beeston
The spa York Road
The one on Lupton av name I can't remember
One in kirkstall with an s in the window

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Some other parlours
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Club133 beeston
The spa York Road
The one on Lupton av name I can't remember
One in kirkstall with an s in the window

Thanks for that  :). So that's 14 we've identified. It was fantastic for parlours back in the day.

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Just remembered another. There was Spartan on Bayswater Rd. So that's 15.

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Can't believe I forgot Sauna 2000 on Hunslet Rd. That's one of the more obvious ones. It's now Naree Thai Massage. So that's 16 parlours at least.

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It's not just Leeds that's dead, Bradford used to have plenty of parlours dotted around and they all gone along with good AW girls

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The WY Police/local councils have definitely played a role in the closing of parlours and I think a lot of the potential new blood is making enough money of content etc but in lots of cities and towns this has been replaced by a high volume of quality tourers Thai, Brazilian, EE.

Now I get this can be a minefield but there is definitely a void in Yorkshire of this talent. You seem to get some in South Yorkshire where the parlours are still thriving but very little in West Yorkshire.

Have a look at the East Midlands and North West pages there are posts every day about Thais in Derby, Nottingham, Leicester, Preston, Carlisle, Burnley etc etc

Why don’t they ever come to Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield?

Offline FLYING BLUE

Some other parlours
Were
Club133 beeston
The spa York Road
The one on Lupton av name I can't remember
One in kirkstall with an s in the window

Lupton Ave was Sonja's aka Secrex 2

There was also ;
Secrets - Holbeck
Sonja's - Moortown
Pussycats - Christopher road
Moniques - Kirkstall
Sensations - Kirkstall
CJ's - Armley, Stanningly road
Butterflies - Harehills lane

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Lupton Ave was Sonja's aka Secrex 2

There was also ;
Secrets - Holbeck
Sonja's - Moortown
Pussycats - Christopher road
Moniques - Kirkstall
Sensations - Kirkstall
CJ's - Armley, Stanningly road
Butterflies - Harehills lane

I mentioned some of those in first post post but thanks for the names and the additional parlours you mentioned . Yes Sensations. That was the one near the Cardigan Arms pub. Moniques was the one on the opposite side of the road. I had forgotten the names.

Offline Pk44

To go back to the original question, on my most recent Leeds punt, the service provider told me it’s been much quieter since the pandemic, with lots of her regulars not returning after the lockdowns. This accords with my own behaviour (I punt much less than I used to) and I guess that might also explain why the old agencies packed it in, so we’re stuck in a place where there’s not enough business to entice girls to work and not enough quality girls to entice punters to spend. I guess punters are less tight in the Northwest, but the Northwest has also always been better value.

Offline Johndy

I am Manchester based, but my all time favourite agency was IK services, those girls were something else.
 
I don’t think Manchester is much better, Cheshire Companions is good , but outcalls only

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A couple of thoughts over this:
1) to what extent did the rise (and subsequent fall) of the deregulated zone affect parlour trade
2) how much pressure have the chinese put on parlours - especially the thai ones? Red paint attacks have been reported in parts of yorkshire, and a couple of years back we did notice on here a trend for thai parlours in yorkshire to be handed over to chinese management

Offline wakefieldlad13

The WY Police/local councils have definitely played a role in the closing of parlours and I think a lot of the potential new blood is making enough money of content etc but in lots of cities and towns this has been replaced by a high volume of quality tourers Thai, Brazilian, EE.

Now I get this can be a minefield but there is definitely a void in Yorkshire of this talent. You seem to get some in South Yorkshire where the parlours are still thriving but very little in West Yorkshire.

Have a look at the East Midlands and North West pages there are posts every day about Thais in Derby, Nottingham, Leicester, Preston, Carlisle, Burnley etc etc

Why don’t they ever come to Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield?


I would agree that the East mids area does have a large number of Thais, both shop based and indie based, however the demographics of the location really gives adequate reasoning
Take Leicester for one, a girl based in the Leicester area, specific location depending, but in theory she could attract punters form Nottingham. Coventry, Birmingham, Northampton etc etc as she could be with less than 1 hours travelling time away
Not only that, but these girls move around for many reasons, some being related to them not wanting to be identified due to potential unauthorised working or similar, others are that they wish to freshen up their customer base and if these girls just move around the east mids areas then in effect they could still attract regulars whom are happy to travel whilst also pulling in new customers whom cannot travel too far
Other reasons for staying in these areas are travel costs and the availability of reasonably priced accommodation, i know some of the groups lets say who are helping these girls will often take on long term leases or rental agreements on apartments this way they get to keep the pricing down

If i go back a couple of years or so, i know a group running Thais were struggling to get suitable long term accommodations that were also reasonably priced in the Leeds CC areas
A lot of this was due to the over population on the student and a distinct lack of student accommodations which is why Leeds as had an ongoing building program to fulfil student accommodations

This group ended up agreeing to take rooms in Thai massage shops, which is why a number of localish shops have or had tourers operating from there, Naree in Hunslet and Suranaree in Sheepscar still take these tourers, i also know that Yonlanda and Hua Hin in Hudds have taken tourers too

Quality of girls, looks and service wise be they Asian East european or ??? in relation to tourers may also fit into the same reasonings as above, the better girls draw in more punters so the groups running these girls will keep the better girls in the busier areas where they can draw premium rates, the indies will also hang around these areas as they too know the busier areas

These are just a few of the reasons behind this though i would expect there to be other reasons too


Offline wakefieldlad13

A couple of thoughts over this:
1) to what extent did the rise (and subsequent fall) of the deregulated zone affect parlour trade
2) how much pressure have the chinese put on parlours - especially the thai ones? Red paint attacks have been reported in parts of yorkshire, and a couple of years back we did notice on here a trend for thai parlours in yorkshire to be handed over to chinese management

I dont feel like the R&F of the deregulated zone had any due impact on the parlour trade as in general i thought the girls in the DRZ tended to be more bargain basement with the vast majority of there customers looking for the bargain basement experiences and more to the point, the bargain basement prices
The only contradiction to this IMO was the Nana Thai massage shop which foolishly set up in Holbeck on Domestic street close to the junction of Shafton lane and st Mathews street, i know this place suffered due to the DRZ though today it may have faired better had it remained open... opening in the vicinity of the DRZ and then closing as the DRZ was coming to an end, definitely a good bit of business that was  :dash:

However i do feel that the ending of the DRZ had and as left a gaping hole in the trade leaving little choice for bargain basement punters which in turn may have helped push up local shop prices as the punters have fewer options to meet their needs

I think that girls choosing to work from home to minimise costs and maximise their income as been the cause of the biggest move from parlours, certainly from the non asian parlours/shops

My non Asian parlour experiences have been quite rare over the last 25 years or so, possibly limited to Angels in Leeds only seeing me a few times, Katy's MR in Donny maybe 3 or 4 visits, with the old Sauna 2000 on Pym street, now Naree being my most visited place with maybe a dozen or so visits so from my own perspective, i havent really noticed much with this



As for the pressure from the Chinese, like many others, i have wondered if the influx of the Chinese agencies may have been putting pressure on many of the shops to close down or sell up, and it had crossed my mind that these groups could have been the source of the red paint attacks but to my knowledge this as not been proven

In many cases on this subject all we have is conjecture, i have heard that some of the victims may know more than as been let on, I do know one Asian Indie whom as been hit with Red paint at 3 different locations believes it to be related to issues she had and as been having with non Thai/non Chinese Asian men but cannot prove it and from my understanding neither can the noddies

I have also heard it said that suspicions lead to non Thai/non Chinese Asian men being behind some of the Hudds red paint jobs but gain unless the noddies catch these then we may not get the true story

Then i have spoken to another provider whom was one of the first to be hit with the red paint, this one told me quite categorically that she is 100% certain that her paint job was related to some issues in her personal life

Again, my original thoughts regarding the red paint issues were that these attacks were organised and as such must have been organised gang related of sorts, be it a protection racket or related to a hostile takeover but i now feel that many of these have been too random and not just limited to one town or city and not just to shops as they have hit indies too so maybe some are just copy cat so again, unless the noddies can catch these people then we are unlikely to ever get to the bottom of it


I think that the Doncaster area may be the area where things could come to light

The Doncaster area for a while has had a mix of established Thai and Chinese shops, with Healing hands on Broxholme and Wellbeing in Balby being the time served chinese shops doing extras and the likes of Retreat, Ladda, Butsakon and others being the Thai shops known for extras, obviously others like Oriental Annie, Natcha, Tara at moorends and others being more recent additions to the area and non of these have had issues

However, like in other areas, we are starting to see the Chinese agency adverts, just like we did in the West yorks areas, so in my mind, if the Donny Thai shops and indies start to have issues then yes, maybe we can see the potential culprits, time will tell

Personally I think the trend in Thai shops being sold and the chinese taking over is more to do with the Chinese being willing to part with the money and much more of it up front, a Thai shop owner will have little or no loyalty to her brethren when it comes to the sale of her shop, she will take the highest cash offer and many of the Thais wanting to take over a shop will often want to pay less than the asking price and also pay in instalments
I personally know two mamasans of thai shops whom bought /took over their shops since covid, (both these are two room shops, with two girls working from there)

One mamasan paid 35% less than the asking price because she had cash and the seller needed the cash quickly, this shop went out on the Thai grapevine and unofficially changed hands in less than a week
The other mamasan ended up paying nearly 50% more than the asking price because she didnt have enough cash up front so she took it on terms with the seller as the seller was not desperate for all the cash up front
The latter of these shops had did have enquiries from the Chinese but this shop was sold on the understanding that the new owner would keep the 2nd girl on and the Chinese were not willing to allow this, this shop as not had any issues with red paint

So in my mind, i think everything is still up in the air regarding the reasoning and the culprits behind the paint issues and as already mentioned, time will tell

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If I recall correctly, most of the parlours were closed by police raids in 2006, long before the managed zone started (was that in about 2010?). There were press reports about the owners of Sonjas being prosecuted and having assets seized and I think the owners of another parlour committed suicide.