Just a thought on all this, I can't help wondering if at least part of the cause of this raid is the reports and comments on here of the internal politics and bitching which went on at Yonlada.
There's four or five of you who seem to know and say more about the place than it's really safe to put into the public domain. OK most of it was on the "hidden" massage board, but it takes little for that to be copied on by a user with access. There's a lesson here about discretion, and not publicising other peoples private business. It made them an easy target: low hanging fruit etc.
In some ways it's unfortunate that it's Yonlada who've been raided as we can be reasonably sure the girls were here freely. It would have been far more helpful if the police had taken on some of the Chinese parlours instead with their pimped trafficked victims.
I understand where you are coming from but i personally dont believe our comments on here (other than reviews stating the nature of the extras) regarding the internal politics have played any part in this raid or even making them an easy target, i will air my thoughts of the reasoning behind this raid further on
I think the comments made by myself, Viper and a couple of others regarding the internal squabbles here were made so other punters were prewarned of what to expect and the less seasoned punter may then be able to avoid lets say and internal scam/bait and switch scenario etc
Having spoken to a couple of girls from here recently, i have learned that Sweet, Areya and Pim have lost quite a few punters whom had contacted them from their personal adverts and have then declined to visit due to their location being Yonlanda and its bad rep, so if anything our comments have helped punters avoid a potential piss take
Which once again supports the reasons why we should review and discuss on here
I also understand your point relating to the Chinese with the perception that a high number of Chinese girls are here not of their free will, personally i havent seen any concrete evidence of this but that deosnt make it untrue
As for Thai girls, i dont think the Thai girls are trafficked as we believe trafficking to be, but that does not mean that they are all here by personal choice, my own interactions with Thais socially lead me to believe many are/were brought here solely to provide services, to earn cash to send back home either to support families or clear debt and that this is expected of them by their families regardless of it being what they actually want to be doing
Regarding the raid itself...
The reasoning for the raid is not really clear, was it due to suspected prostitution, running a brothel or was it due to suspicions of illegal working?
The news report states that Immigration officers were their to support the police, not the other way round, so was immigration present for translation purposes or what?
We know that arrests were made regarding to controlling prostitution and we now know that 4 females were detained by immigration for working when they were not entitled to do so in accordance with their visa's
So why was Yonlanda targeted, as SB points out, perceptions between Thai and Chinese suggest that illegal immigrants/trafficked girls are more likely to be found at a Chinese place than at a Thai place
We also know that other Thai shops in West yorks also have more than one girl working at a time whom also have their own personal adverts on the likes of VS, this as been the case at Maya Sawasdee also in Hudds, Hua Hin too in Hudds, Pannarai in Brighouse often have pics of the girls on their advert and the girls have their own adverts too
So what made Plod and or immigration choose to go after Yonlanda?
I dont think our words on here have played any part at all, i can understand where SB is coming from but i dont think that is related
My thoughts are these, i feel the raid was more about illegal working than prostitution or Brothels, i think that prostitution is what may have got approval for the raid as VS adverts and messaging virtually prove this place is/was providing illegal sexual services, as already pointed out, Yonlanda freely displayed pics of the girls whom are working in the shop so if nothing else, raiding the shop on the grounds of prostitution would always be a success
Now, the adverts could
give the law as reason to look at the shop and using the adverts could give immigration chance to ID girls whom are not allowed to work here
Couple this with the fact that the shop also freely advertises more than one girl working and again freely discloses some of the sexual services available then the law can justify a raid on the grounds of this being a brothel and potentially controlling prostitutes
Now, notice that i highlighted 'could give the law reason to look at the shop'
What reasons could there be?
Firstly we know that the Gov have a newish initiative to tackle illegals, but lest face it, anyone with a hole that they shit out of will at the very least suspect some massage shops are fronts for brothels and may have illegal workers in it, so why now?
Yonlanda have posted so many pics of girls over the last few years, so again, why now?
There can only be one reason IMO, they must have been acting on information received from a reliable source, basically they were shopped, i think the law had been given hard facts, working names and real names etc from a source that they could believe with a guaranteed result in their favour
IMO if this was just about Yonlanda being a brothel, about controlling prostitution then Plod would not have taken Immigration, not even for translation purposes, NO, this was about girls working when they were not entitled to do so in accordance with their visa requirements
So why would immigration have taken Plod, Immigration officers do not need Plod when they conduct raids, Plod and Immigration will often work together but both entities can conduct raids without the approval, knowledge or assistance of the other
My thoughts on this are simple,
many normal immigration officers do not have PACE powers whereas a police constable does, this means that without Plods presence, unless an immigration officer physically caught a girl working then he couldnt prove her presence in the shop was for illegal working purposes and because the IO does not have PACE powers then the IO cannot legally arrest that girl without proof she was or had been working so assuming the girl could prove she was in the UK legally then the IO could not detain her
Now with Plods presence things change, even a basic police constable can justify an arrest on many grounds and as such confiscate potential evidence i.e phones etc even without a warrant if that PC suspects criminal activity of any sort (in this case the criminal activity could have been suspected controlling of prostitution), so now with immigration having potentially pre identified the illegal working girls and with Plod being allowed to confiscate potential evidence then the IO will have then found evidence of these girls being put to work regardless of it being legitimate or as a sex provider, either way they would have found evidence of illegal working, the IO will then have their result and Plod have a result too, wins for Plod, wins for Immigration and brownie points for both with .GOV
So as always, apologies for my wittering on BUT to cut a long story short it is my opinion that Yonlanda was targeted as they were possibly shopped
