Subscription ends soon. Can I pay in traditional currency next time?

[faquin1]

Just a request as paying in BTC is a real pain and puts me off re-subscribing.

[puntingking]

I hear you, i dont need to pay as i have been a member before it was set up.
I bet it can be hard to do it that way, hopefully a moderator would be able to help you 

[The Gambling Whale]

Yes right PITA this is and why I've never joined previously.
I used Bitcoin.com Wallet but now they don't take UK customers,some of the wallets I tried are near impossible to use.

[Blackpool Rock]

Fortunately I don't have to do the whole Bitcoin thing as I joined before it was a requirement and in all honesty it would put me off but surely if you've done it before it shouldn't be such a pain to do it again 

Anyway it's been discussed many times, I believe the latest thread was this one, i've copied the post from admin where he basically says if anyone can suggest an alternative to Bitcoin that keeps anonymity for both parties then they'd consider it
Otherwise the answer is basically NO 

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=412895.msg4147029#msg4147029

[The Gambling Whale]

Fortunately I don't have to do the whole Bitcoin thing as I joined before it was a requirement and in all honesty it would put me off but surely if you've done it before it shouldn't be such a pain to do it again 

Anyway it's been discussed many times, I believe the latest thread was this one, i've copied the post from admin where he basically says if anyone can suggest an alternative to Bitcoin that keeps anonymity for both parties then they'd consider it
Otherwise the answer is basically NO 

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=412895.msg4147029#msg4147029

They are lots of anonymous payment methods but it is what it is on this site it seems so new users have to deal with Btc or just use the site without reviewing.

[faquin1]

Thanks for the replies.Yes, I've managed it twice already. Guess I'll put off resubscribing until I'm ready to do a review.

[Blackpool Rock]

They are lots of anonymous payment methods but it is what it is on this site it seems so new users have to deal with Btc or just use the site without reviewing.

So perhaps suggest them and maybe one will be used alongside Bitcoin 

[puntingking]

I do feel abit sorry for wannabe members that have to go through this process.
A one off fee should suffice then they would only have to go through this process once and not multiple occasions when they need to renew.

 

[puntingking]

They are lots of anonymous payment methods but it is what it is on this site it seems so new users have to deal with Btc or just use the site without reviewing.

My advice would be to send a moderator alternative ways that you think would work.

They can only say "no" or "yes". 

[The Gambling Whale]

So perhaps suggest them and maybe one will be used alongside Bitcoin 

Some are already listed on your link you posted and there are others.
This site has their rules fair enough no doubt it puts a lot of people off though.

[puntingking]

Thanks for the replies.Yes, I've managed it twice already. Guess I'll put off resubscribing until I'm ready to find another wg based on reviews from here

Corrected it for you   

[puntingking]

Some are already listed on your link you posted and there are others.
This site has their rules fair enough no doubt it puts a lot of people off though.

It would put me off from joining if this was started before i joined.

[faquin1]

I've actually done a fair share of reviews. I think the membership is punitive against those that do the reviews vs those that just read the reviews. You can read up to about 6 reviews per day without being a paid member.

[southcoastpunter]

as others have said this has all been discussed before and the Mod team/Admin/Head 1 have decided what it is now. again as mentioned above, i do recall Head 1 saying that he will consider any other method that maintained autonomy for both parties (and if i remember correctly, he stressed the word "both")

[The Gambling Whale]

he stressed the word "both")

Lots of options  for both.Btc is a ball ache but thems the rules.

[MissWolf]

Lots of options  for both.Btc is a ball ache but thems the rules.

If you are that sure there are so many options please share them, as a wg I to would love a completely anonymous way to accept payment that is secure and works for both parties

[scutty brown]

If you are that sure there are so many options please share them, as a wg I to would love a completely anonymous way to accept payment that is secure and works for both parties

I'm sure that if there was one the tax authorities would have closed it........

[Hoping]

I'm sure that if there was one the tax authorities would have closed it........

They haven't abolished cash transactions, yet!

[scutty brown]

They haven't abolished cash transactions, yet!

close to it, with the number of banks closing and now the gradual closure of the major post offices.

Soon if you need to draw more than a couple of hundred quid cash it won't be possible as it'll be above the machine limits

[southcoastpunter]

They haven't abolished cash transactions, yet!

that might work for an individual WG (although that is getting harder for them) but it won't work for this site - which is what this thread is about.

[MissWolf]

I'm sure that if there was one the tax authorities would have closed it........

That implies that we don't pay or avoid taxes

That is not what I'm saying here I'm saying if he's that sure that there are loads of completely anonymous payment options that keep both parties personal information completely safe from each other then I and 100s of other WGs would like to know about it as much as Head1 would.

If our personal identity can remain anonymous from each other that is the ideal

[scutty brown]

That implies that we don't pay or avoid taxes

No it's not meant as any such implication against you or any group of people.
It's simply a comment in how the tax authorities increasingly make it difficult to deal in cash for everyone, or in general make anonymous payments impossible.
A few years back there were several anonymous cash transfer schemes, most now seem to have been shut down.

[timsussex]

That implies that we don't pay or avoid taxes
....

I didnt take that from it either
I'm sure we all know of examples where "big Brother" has clamped down on financial transaction methods
For example several years ago my bank (who I had been with 30 years) refused to accept a cheque made out to Tom Smith as my account was in the name of Thomas Smith (names have been changed but you get the point) I was told by the manager that they would be breaking the law by accepting it. I asked when the law changed and who would prosecute them as they had accepted over 50 such cheques and will happily provide them the evidence.
Eventually they agreed to accept the cheque if I put on file a written statement that I was commonly known as Tom
that was my first experience, since then the authorities have clamped down even further and hate any means of fund transfer that they can't track.
They blame drug traffickers and terrorists for the clampdown because they know most of us will support that

[MissWolf]

No it's not meant as any such implication against you or any group of people.
It's simply a comment in how the tax authorities increasingly make it difficult to deal in cash for everyone, or in general make anonymous payments impossible.
A few years back there were several anonymous cash transfer schemes, most now seem to have been shut down.

My bad Scutty 

Tbh I'm so used to the tax dodging quips it's almost a little automatic to read it like that, apologies and I agree any authority be it tax or othe government department certainly do not want us to be anonymous they want to track us as much as possible and cash avoids that.
Funnily enough there has been a rise in the use of cash since the credit crunch as people are taking cash out and using it to budget easier. 

[GingerNuts]

Soon if you need to draw more than a couple of hundred quid cash it won't be possible as it'll be above the machine limits

Aren't cash withdrawal limits account based?

[scutty brown]

Aren't cash withdrawal limits account based?

there's usually a daily cap on the account and a cap on the machine as well, and the lower takes precedence.
But most account caps are in the £300 area

[GingerNuts]

there's usually a daily cap on the account and a cap on the machine as well, and the lower takes precedence.
But most account caps are in the £300 area

Do you have a source for a daily cap on machines? There might be one but it certainly isn't in the low hundreds.

Account caps are determined by the account provider. I was easily able to increase mine beyond the initial limit. I can see premier accounts at £1,000 and some can be increased further.

Even a £250 to £300 limit easily covers the vast majority of punts.

[scutty brown]

Punting isn't the issue - it's the cases where you need a few thousand to buy an old car or bike or similar. Or pay a brickie or sparky to fix your house

[timsussex]

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You used to have to make an arangement to withdraw large amounts of cash from a different branch of your bank but a couple of years ago I was buying a car £3k and was told that I didnt need to tell them in advance - just walk into any branch with ID and sign as they now all had access to my account details inc signature

Not sure what limit is imposed on that

[GingerNuts]

Punting isn't the issue - it's the cases where you need a few thousand to buy an old car or bike or similar. Or pay a brickie or sparky to fix your house

I was following the discussion from Miss Wolf's comment hence the reference to punting.

If you're desperate to pay a few thousand for a car, bike or a tradesman in cash then I'm sure you can work out how to get it.

Any luck with that source yet?

[scutty brown]

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You used to have to make an arangement to withdraw large amounts of cash from a different branch of your bank but a couple of years ago I was buying a car £3k and was told that I didnt need to tell them in advance - just walk into any branch with ID and sign as they now all had access to my account details inc signature

Not sure what limit is imposed on that

but therein lies the problem with the banks shutting so many branches - my nearest branch is now 30 miles away

[GingerNuts]

but therein lies the problem with the banks shutting so many branches - my nearest branch is now 30 miles away

Transfer your account to a bank with a closer branch or open another account.

[scutty brown]

Transfer your account to a bank with a closer branch or open another account.

Transfer to where?
The only banking facilities left in this town are one building society and the post office. Both are scheduled to close next year.
All the other banks and societies have already gone

[GingerNuts]

Transfer to where?
The only banking facilities left in this town are one building society and the post office. Both are scheduled to close next year.
All the other banks and societies have already gone

I wouldn't know because I don't know where you live.

I'd be surprised if there wasn't a bank with a branch closer than 30 miles though.

[Blackpool Rock]

My bad Scutty 

Tbh I'm so used to the tax dodging quips it's almost a little automatic to read it like that, apologies and I agree any authority be it tax or othe government department certainly do not want us to be anonymous they want to track us as much as possible and cash avoids that.
Funnily enough there has been a rise in the use of cash since the credit crunch as people are taking cash out and using it to budget easier. 

Me thinks you protest too much   

[puntingking]

Transfer to where?
The only banking facilities left in this town are one building society and the post office. Both are scheduled to close next year.
All the other banks and societies have already gone

I heared that they are only moving 115 post offices branches to inside retail stores to save cost.
So there will still be the same amount of post office branches in the uk, just located in retail stores alot of them. 

[southcoastpunter]

Transfer to where?
The only banking facilities left in this town are one building society and the post office. Both are scheduled to close next year.
All the other banks and societies have already gone

I heared that they are only moving 115 post offices branches to inside retail stores to save cost.
So there will still be the same amount of post office branches in the uk, just located in retail stores alot of them. 

its the way of the world nowdays - its "progress"! But it is also true that 90%+ of people do not need a physical bank branch 90%+ of the time. Most cash cards do £300 per day (some cash point machines are limited to £250 per transaction but most are £300) so a withdrawal yesterday and today gets you £600 - more than enough for most people most of the time and more than enough for most punts!!

But again going off topic for the purpose of this thread - which was about paying UKP subscriptions.

[daviemac]

I heared that they are only moving 115 post offices branches to inside retail stores to save cost.
So there will still be the same amount of post office branches in the uk, just located in retail stores alot of them. 

That can't be right, the two post offices based in retail stores that were closest to me have both closed over the last few months, the nearest one now is several miles away in another retail store.   

As an aside there used to be two banks, one Lloyds and one Barclays, within walking distance of my house both gone as has the nearest branch of NatWest.

[puntingking]

That can't be right, the two post offices based in retail stores that were closest to me have both closed over the last few months, the nearest one now is several miles away in another retail store.   

As an aside there used to be two banks, one Lloyds and one Barclays, within walking distance of my house both gone as has the nearest branch of NatWest.

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quote from source - "It is understood its leadership is looking for alternative franchise arrangements where an operator like the retailer WHSmith or another third party could take on the branches."

[puntingking]

That can't be right, the two post offices based in retail stores that were closest to me have both closed over the last few months, the nearest one now is several miles away in another retail store.   

As an aside there used to be two banks, one Lloyds and one Barclays, within walking distance of my house both gone as has the nearest branch of NatWest.

if cash machines go, post office branches go and banks go. where else would people draw out from 

maybe that is a discussion for another thread on another day

[Punterperson1971]

I heared that they are only moving 115 post offices branches to inside retail stores to save cost.
So there will still be the same amount of post office branches in the uk, just located in retail stores alot of them. 

The post office in my town has moved from the main post office area to a unit in an old BHS store back to a brand new one that’s opened I think this week on the main high street.

[daviemac]

if cash machines go, post office branches go and banks go. where else would people draw out from 

maybe that is a discussion for another thread on another day

Cash machines will always be there, supermarkets have them and there's still one local to me near where one of the post offices was.

"So there will still be the same amount of post office branches in the uk" there's two less that I know of and that's just near me.

The one that was nearest to me was a stand alone post office shop but it closed as all payments of pensions etc moved to online, it then opened in a newsagents further up the street but moved from there to the small supermarket a couple of doors along then closed altogether.

In that small group of shops there are still 2 pizza shops, 2 Indian takeaway shops, a burger bar, a Chinese takeaway, a Subway, a sandwich/pie shop and a pub. No bank or post office though a cash machine is still there.

[DastardlyDick]

The one that was nearest to me was a stand alone post office shop but it closed as all payments of pensions etc moved to online, it then opened in a newsagents further up the street but moved from there to the small supermarket a couple of doors along then closed altogether.

I think they're still having problems recruiting people to run sub post offices after the Horizon scandal, and there's another one brewing with the system that Horizon replaced. The sub post office near my office block - which was in a convenience shop - was closed for ages while the shop ran as normal. Having seen the "culture" within Post Office Ltd as a result of the hearings, I'm not surprised.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Theres a shop in Great Shelford just south of cambridge where you can get cash from but its not a machine you have to buy something like a pack of mints to get a couple of hundred works quite well..

The mints tho, fresh breath for the girl your seeing;)..

[puntingking]

Just a request as paying in BTC is a real pain and puts me off re-subscribing.

are you planning to re - subscribe Faquin1?
Just to let you know, i believe there is an option to re - subscribe for 4 years, you can do that so you don't have to worry about going through this method every year. 

[Strawberry]

Transfer to where?
The only banking facilities left in this town are one building society and the post office. Both are scheduled to close next year.
All the other banks and societies have already gone

When the banks leave they take their ATMs, leaving only machines attached to supermarkets which can become overwhelmed, falter or run out of cash. The Banking Hubs don't tend to have an ATM, yes you can withdraw over the counter but only within opening hours.