Punting over the last 18months

[Swos0506]

Hi,

I have been an avid user of this site and I haven’t contributed until now (sorry).

I used this site for reference for god knows how many years, trying to figure out is I really wanted to punt or not.  I found the whole world of adultwork a mystery.  I would only ever contact via email until 2 months ago.  Most adultwork messages went unanswered or profiles disappeared.  Using this site I realised that it was the best reference to ensure if SPs are genuine or not.  My biggest fear and why I procrastinated for so long (years) was the fear of turning up and being ambushed or something not being safe.  My take away from this experience is do your research to ensure SPs are genuine.   My technique , was find SP on adultwork, look on this site, read all reviews.  Then Look at reviews on adultwork again and see if a username has seen a SP that I had seen before to establish if the SP I am interested in was genuine.  I have been fortunate that I haven’t had a bad experience to date.  I have stuck to mainly British girls, which has worked well for me.  I’m sure everyone has their own reasons for punting, but for me it was to try and find a “stunner” to make me feel in my mid 20s again.  Someone I could never pull, not even in my prime!

Over the past 18mths I have seen the following (I will write reviews in due course) to give back to this site that has helped my journey.

Eviejaydex now eviebabexo - Great Yarmouth -  External Link/Members Only
Molly_English - Colchester - External Link/Members Only
Alice Deveraux - Colchester - External Link/Members Only
Laura Tabitha - Norwich - External Link/Members Only
AshleyMinx - Norwich - External Link/Members Only
Petite_lil_blonde - Brentwood - External Link/Members Only

I will write reviews for all, but in summary. 

I have seen Evie the most (also my first punt) -well over 10 times and solid 7/10
Ashley about 3 times - 7/10
The rest I have seen once only.  Alice - 6/10, Laura 6/10 (not my type, but good service), Molly 3/10 (not as advertised) and my allusive “stunner” petite_lil_blonde 10/10.

I have developed a “guilt” after punting that has stopped me punting, I am unsure if others have this feeling.  I do wonder if I have come to the other side of what probably in all honesty has been a midlife crisis.

In conclusion, apologies for not contributing to this site, I hope this message has given a little back and maybe will help along the way.

Thanks

[daviemac]

You've been here nearly 4 years mate, you should have been reviewing as you went along, it's too late now to post reviews from 18 months ago.

[Uncle Bob]

Because of punting I lost my marriage, my home, my friends & my 'mental' attitude resulting in my liberty being reduced for several years.
I've not been a great contributor to this site - & unfortunately due to my current financial circumstances,(see above) I don't see that changing anytime soon.
However, if I was you -which I'm not - I'd get my act together & stop whining & instead of posting links to escorts that you've seen post reviews for them!
One day I hope I'll be able to finance them again myself.

[tp69]

Because of punting I lost my marriage, my home, my friends & my 'mental' attitude resulting in my liberty being reduced for several years.
I've not been a great contributor to this site - & unfortunately due to my current financial circumstances,(see above) I don't see that changing anytime soon.
However, if I was you -which I'm not - I'd get my act together & stop whining & instead of posting links to escorts that you've seen post reviews for them!
One day I hope I'll be able to finance them again myself.

While reviews within the allowed time period would've been nice, I didn't find OP's post to be a whine.

Also, while we're dishing out life advice, if you allowed punting to seemingly ruin your entire life, perhaps dreaming of a time when you can start it again isn't the most positive thing you could be doing either.

[Swos0506]

Sorry, I haven’t been clear, all links I have listed, I can review as they have been seen within last 6months.  I toyed with idea of punting for literally years before seeing the first SP 18months ago - who I last saw last month and I have now provided a review for.  I am not whining or moaning.  I only posted links to people I have seen to for others people reference if others use this site to verify SP are genuine or not.  I completely get I should have posted earlier, I didn’t, I can’t change that fact, but I can post in date reviews that I intend to do.

[Bill]

-- My biggest fear and why I procrastinated for so long (years) was the fear of turning up and being ambushed or something not being safe. 

I'm with you there. I guess my standards have slipped now, but in my early forays I'd not only choose British girls, but several times went on Land Registry to check that house was in her name and not a front for Russian mafia!

[PilotMan]

My biggest fear and why I procrastinated for so long (years) was the fear of turning up and being ambushed or something not being safe.  My take away from this experience is do your research to ensure SPs are genuine.   My technique , was find SP on adultwork, look on this site, read all reviews.  Then Look at reviews on adultwork again and see if a username has seen a SP that I had seen before to establish if the SP I am interested in was genuine.  I have been fortunate that I haven’t had a bad experience to date.

Mate, you're way overthinking it.

Just ask for everything to be confirmed by text BEFORE you make your way to the punt, if you get no response or are not happy with the response, just jog on to the next one.

If you go somewhere and something happens or the girl isn't genuine, or the details are in dispute from what was agreed, or anything else, just walk away.

If you procrastinate and don't go that's a decision that you are taking -  a decision to do nothing, it's still a decision that you are taking.

It's better to have tried and failed, than not try. Either way only you are in control of what you do.

[PilotMan]

I'm with you there. I guess my standards have slipped now, but in my early forays I'd not only choose British girls, but several times went on Land Registry to check that house was in her name and not a front for Russian mafia!

You sound creepy 

[Watts.E.Dunn]

You sound creepy 

Maybe more overly cautious! Can't say I've gone as far as the land registery tho!..

Did see a punting house up for sale a while ago and ther was "that" bedroom was going to post a piccy of it just wonded how many meets took place  in that very room;?..

[triggs91]

I'm with you there. I guess my standards have slipped now, but in my early forays I'd not only choose British girls, but several times went on Land Registry to check that house was in her name and not a front for Russian mafia!

What if they rented or the girl (highly likely) used a different name to the profile?

[PilotMan]

What if they rented or the girl (highly likely) used a different name to the profile?

Exactly, so then you would be looking for the name of the owner on social media etc.

Proper stalkerish behaviour.

[Bill]

What if they rented or the girl (highly likely) used a different name to the profile?

I think I did it 3 times and yes, two times the name was different, but only a bit. So one lady had used her middle name to advertise, another had just changed her name slightly (not a real example, but Doris advertising as Doreena)

As it happened none of them were renters, but as I said, my main aim was to check if the house was owned by anyone East European sounding - not claiming it's a foolproof system but I was cautious about what sort of world I was getting into.

[Bill]

You sound creepy 

Jeez PM. 'Creepy' is a bit harsh and 'stalker' is truly absurd. Maybe a bit silly/pointless, but that's why it was shared for amusement. It was just the caution of someone not knowing the world he was getting into. It's clear from this forum that I'm not the only one who likes to know about a venue before visiting, this was just an OTT example which seemed appropriate to share given the context of the original post. '

[PilotMan]

I think I did it 3 times and yes, two times the name was different, but only a bit. So one lady had used her middle name to advertise, another had just changed her name slightly (not a real example, but Doris advertising as Doreena)

As it happened none of them were renters, but as I said, my main aim was to check if the house was owned by anyone East European sounding - not claiming it's a foolproof system but I was cautious about what sort of world I was getting into.

You need to apply some common sense here.

If someone has an "East European" sounding name (that's racial profiling) or are operating some sort of Russian Mafia plan to fleece innocent people of their hard earned cash, do you think that they would buy and register a house in their own name - seriously, do you think they would?


No, they would rent it and keep things as arms length as possible.

But you never can tell, so keep on checking that land registry, it may one day save you from being kidnapped and held hostage by a Russian Mafioso who's registered a house in his own name.

[alabama1]

I'm with you there. I guess my standards have slipped now, but in my early forays I'd not only choose British girls, but several times went on Land Registry to check that house was in her name and not a front for Russian mafia!

If it was a front for the Russian mafia, i am guessing that you would be in the safest of hands, as they wouldn't want to bite the hand that feeds it would they 

[versace]

All this talk about Russian Mafia is so 90’s. They control fuck all these days.

The Albanians took over a long time ago.

[PilotMan]

All this talk about Russian Mafia is so 90’s. They control fuck all these days.

The Albanians took over a long time ago.

No, you have it all wrong. Doreen wiped out all the Albanians with Novichok that she stole from the Russians after she took them out.

She's a proper piece of work that Doreen.

[Bill]

You need to apply some common sense here.

FFS take your own advice and get some perspective.

I wasn't trying to write a manual for others on how to protect yourself while punting, I was sharing a little anecdote about something a bit OTT* I did when starting out. You don't need to analyse it. If it doesn't raise a little smile as you think to yourself: "What a silly chap" then just move on. 

*But FWIW the 3 times I did it, I established that the lady I was going to see was indeed the house-owner. That was reasurring

[PilotMan]

FFS take your own advice and get some perspective.

I wasn't trying to write a manual for others on how to protect yourself while punting, I was sharing a little anecdote about something a bit OTT* I did when starting out. You don't need to analyse it. If it doesn't raise a little smile as you think to yourself: "What a silly chap" then just move on. 

*But FWIW the 3 times I did it, I established that the lady I was going to see was indeed the house-owner. That was reasurring

Saying it was all a bit of fun, that's just you back tracking now.

Land registry Searches aren't free, they're currently £23.70 each.

The land registry does not have pictures of the owner, just their real name.

Once you got their names from the Land Registry, how did you establish that the three ladies that you "were going to see" were the one and same person who actually owned the property. What details did you get from the Land Registry that enabled you to accurately match the SP's "working persona" in all three cases.

So if the SP isn't using her real name and there are no pictures at the Land Registry, you would have needed to "investigate" further, perhaps checking the Electoral Role or social media?

This isn't the behaviour of a "silly chap", this is not some innocent curiosity, this is someone investing time and money and making a highly determined effort to find out an SP's highly personal details, hence my comments.

Someone else other than Bill tell me that this isn't excessive investigation in to an SP's private life?

[tp69]

Someone else other than Bill tell me that this isn't excessive investigation in to an SP's private life?

It's excessive yes, but probably not for a 'creepy' or 'stalking' reason, rather than the person being paranoid about the possibility of getting robbed, mugged, drugged and carried away in the back of a van to be tortured for all his worth 

We all have different levels of risk and how we handle that. But yes, even in his own words it was OTT. I'm surprised he managed to conclude they were the property owners as that's probably highly unusual.

For any newbie's reading - just check that the WG's have a few reviews here before you see them and you'll be fine.

[PilotMan]

For any newbie's reading - just check that the WG's have a few reviews here before you see them and you'll be fine.

Exactly - UKP intel is the best resource for punters, especially if you have any safety concerns.

Not only that you'll save the Land Registry search fee 

[Bill]

Saying it was all a bit of fun, that's just you back tracking now.

Land registry Searches aren't free, they're currently £23.70 each.

The land registry does not have pictures of the owner, just their real name.

Once you got their names from the Land Registry, how did you establish that the three ladies that you "were going to see" were the one and same person who actually owned the property. What details did you get from the Land Registry that enabled you to accurately match the SP's "working persona" in all three cases.

So if the SP isn't using her real name and there are no pictures at the Land Registry, you would have needed to "investigate" further, perhaps checking the Electoral Role or social media?

This isn't the behaviour of a "silly chap", this is not some innocent curiosity, this is someone investing time and money and making a highly determined effort to find out an SP's highly personal details, hence my comments.

Someone else other than Bill tell me that this isn't excessive investigation in to an SP's private life?

Jesus, you are being a complete arse.

1. I didn't say it was a bit of fun, I said it was an OTT act of caution in my early days. This was before I'd even heard of this site, let alone joined it. TP69's later advice to check this site is of course the sensible thing to do.

2. You've exaggerated the Land Registry charges about as much as you've exaggerated the "sinister" aspects of my precautionary action: It still only costs £3.00 to do a title search (External Link/Members Only)

3. I said it was an OTT thing to do and now you're asking people to judge whether it was excessive. You do realise that OTT stands for over-the-top? In other words I've said loud n clear that it was excessive and you're asking if people think it was  - - -excessive? 

4. "Investing time and money - -" As I've already pointed out, the money was trivial. As to investing time - WTF do you think everyone is doing on this site? There's about 1,800 people logged on as I write, many will be trying to find out all they can before committing to a new punt. And it's not just about the WG's performance, people regularly comment on whether a venue "feels safe" is "discreet" etc. Some people check out venues before visiting etc.
 
5. What I looked at was information in the public domain. By definition it's not considered sensitive or "highly personal" to quote your absurd interpretation. Most of what appears on this site is far more personal and intimate that's what makes the site so valuable.

6. Again - and  I don't know how many times I need to repeat this to get through the veil of conspiracy and stalker theories that clouds your comprehension - In my early forays into the punting world I was a bit excessive and misguided in the way I went about trying to ensure that I was safe and wouldn't be exposed. End of. No need for textual analysis, nor (heaven forbid) investing time to think through the pros and cons of this approach. It was a throwaway anecdote which can be - - well, thrown away.

Lots of love

Creepster McStalker

[PilotMan]

Lots of love

Creepster McStalker

Points taken

Lots of love

Detective Columbo 

[Mr Garmin]

Bill, you've done a fantastic job of answering every bodies questions.

Except the big one.

How did you establish that the name you got from the LR was the real name of the service provider?

Or did they work under their real name?

[Bill]

Bill, you've done a fantastic job of answering every bodies questions.

Except the big one.

How did you establish that the name you got from the LR was the real name of the service provider?

Or did they work under their real name?

Well I will answer the question, but  please will you (and everyone else) bear in mind that I'm not trying to defend or justify an MO here? In so far as you can call it a system or theory, I'm fully aware that there are massive holes in it. I would say that luckily I didn't fall into any of those holes.

So taking the examplle of Doris / Doreena. She had her own website advertising tantric massage under the Doreena name. She lived in Brandon (I think I can safely say that as she's long since gone (probably back to Moscow). When I phoned and made a booking, she gave the address. I checked title deed and sure enough the house had been owned solely by Doris for (I think) over 10 years. So I was reassured. Maybe I shouldn't have been, but there it is. I also drove over to check out the house and sus decent parking spots as I knew I'd have the dog in the car.

I suppose the main reason my "checking" seemed to work is that the 3 times I did it, all the ladies' were similar in being mature and well-established in their line of business, all were masseurs rather than escorts. None were on AW as far as I know, nor indeed was I at the time.

There we are. time to draw a line under this one I think

Except to say thank you for your latest respons PM

[Mr Garmin]

Thanks Bill

I can well imagine a mature massage provider (perhaps with less overt extras) working under their own name.

[Swos0506]

Sorry for causing such drama (for Bill) with my initial post.  I have now posted all reviews and apologies for not doing sooner.  Hopefully this post will help a newbie at some point in future, especially the other thinkers (like me) and the ultra cautious (me again -and Bill).

[Bill]

Sorry for causing such drama (for Bill) with my initial post.  I have now posted all reviews and apologies for not doing sooner.  Hopefully this post will help a newbie at some point in future, especially the other thinkers (like me) and the ultra cautious (me again -and Bill).

Well, apologies for a post from you becoming all about me!

[PilotMan]

I think the thread is helpful in reassuring punters that there's not some massive underground network of scammers and bad people about to kidnap us or hold us to ransom.

It's just our own paranoia.

If you're really paranoid, then park a long way from the punt and leave everything in the car aside from your punting phone and the correct money for the SP.

If you are on public transport, then leave everything at home that isn't absolutely necessary to take with you.