Kelly - Natural Elements, Moorgate

[scutty brown]

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On Moorgate, just south of the station.

Went in around 8pm, shop was single manned by the girl in the photo. Photo is a good image, slim, small breasted, tidy no-too-hairy beaver.
Delightfully friendly, gave me a firm but teasing all over massage including soothing of the dangly bits.
At turnover time she whispered delicately "something or blowjob"? I couldn't make out what the "something" was (It wasn't FS) so went with BJ. Exquisitely performed BJ that lasted for around 20 minutes and had me cum in her mouth (but no swallowing).
Finished off with RO until it got too much for her.
No clockwatching.
If I lived in London I'd be there every week.

Cost £60 for the hour and I bunged her £100 for the excellent BJ. Note she didn't even discuss how much that was beforehand, she just started in and we worried about it afterwards

She said they have another site where she sometimes also works - Finsbury Circus maybe? Sorry can't remember her name

[GingerNuts]

Went in around 8pm, shop was single manned by the girl in the photo. Photo is a good image, slim, small breasted, tidy no-too-hairy beaver.

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[scutty brown]

You're right. Really does look like her though

[Nick_Curran]

Cheers for a great write-up, Scutty.  Guessing you didn't get this lady's name?  Do you mind saying which day of the week it was that you visited?

[scutty brown]

Saturday night, she's there most days but not Tuesdays
Can't remember her name - it was a heavy weekend...

[Mikeb]

Thanks for the review. Pass by this place every day. No surprises that there are extras by the look of it but not discussing the price before hand makes me wince 

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[Arfnice73]

She said they have another site where she sometimes also works - Finsbury Circus maybe? Sorry can't remember her name

Isn’t there a Natural Elements at Farringdon? Could it have been there that she mentioned?

[scutty brown]

Isn’t there a Natural Elements at Farringdon? Could it have been there that she mentioned?

in that case probably was - it definitely began with an "F"

[Ts.ff]

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On Moorgate, just south of the station.

Went in around 8pm, shop was single manned by the girl in the photo. Photo is a good image, slim, small breasted, tidy no-too-hairy beaver.
Delightfully friendly, gave me a firm but teasing all over massage including soothing of the dangly bits.
At turnover time she whispered delicately "something or blowjob"? I couldn't make out what the "something" was (It wasn't FS) so went with BJ. Exquisitely performed BJ that lasted for around 20 minutes and had me cum in her mouth (but no swallowing).
Finished off with RO until it got too much for her.
No clockwatching.
If I lived in London I'd be there every week.

Cost £60 for the hour and I bunged her £100 for the excellent BJ. Note she didn't even discuss how much that was beforehand, she just started in and we worried about it afterwards

She said they have another site where she sometimes also works - Finsbury Circus maybe? Sorry can't remember her name

Was that £100 on top of the £60 or in total?

Thanks

[scutty brown]

Was that £100 on top of the £60 or in total?

Thanks

on top
£160 total
she worked pretty hard for it!

[beastmaster]

on top
£160 total
she worked pretty hard for it!

Sorry but I really think you were over generous - at massage places, FS (including BBJ/CIM) is usually between £60 - £80. Paying her £100 just for the BBJ may set the new benchmark and now she may want that from every punter, and even more for FS? Each to their own, I guess, but the prices we pay individually tend to have an effect on subsequent prices set by the SPs. I know we can negotiate them down, but its makes it harder if they start with ludicrously high prices. Anyway I will TOFTT this place and see how it goes price wise.

[PumpDump]

Sorry but I really think you were over generous - at massage places, FS (including BBJ/CIM) is usually between £60 - £80. Paying her £100 just for the BBJ may set the new benchmark and now she may want that from every punter, and even more for FS? Each to their own, I guess, but the prices we pay individually tend to have an effect on subsequent prices set by the SPs. I know we can negotiate them down, but its makes it harder if they start with ludicrously high prices. Anyway I will TOFTT this place and see how it goes price wise.

Generally I concur, but I would pay a bit more for a fit 20 year old.

[jamiekinkxxx]

Sorry but I really think you were over generous - at massage places, FS (including BBJ/CIM) is usually between £60 - £80. Paying her £100 just for the BBJ may set the new benchmark and now she may want that from every punter, and even more for FS? Each to their own, I guess, but the prices we pay individually tend to have an effect on subsequent prices set by the SPs. I know we can negotiate them down, but its makes it harder if they start with ludicrously high prices. Anyway I will TOFTT this place and see how it goes price wise.

He paid what he thought it was worth. His money, his choice. Stop dicatating what we should or should not do with our own hard earne money

[Rogertiger]

Yeah, the lecture is pointless. There's loads of guys who go there who probably have no idea on the surcharges and just pay whatever they want. They've never read this review. Telling one guy to offer less is a drop in the ocean. If you want sensible prices, don't bother with the Chinese joints

[LLPunting]

Yeah, the lecture is pointless. There's loads of guys who go there who probably have no idea on the surcharges and just pay whatever they want. They've never read this review. Telling one guy to offer less is a drop in the ocean. If you want sensible prices, don't bother with the Chinese joints

The Chinese places are the most likely to "settle" for reasonable prices unless you habituate them by over-paying.  The bleating about oh so many others in ignorance or apathy just pay more is the same CBA argument that leads to all the fucked up circumstances prevailing throughout society.  Each person needs to take a common ground stand for the collective to affect the situation.
If you want young masseuses to overpay without complaint "coz theyz young and fit" then hit up the clip joints in Soho or around the rail terminuses that are staffed by "Europeans", Latinas or Orientals probably selling Nuru and Tantric experiences.
BTW "telling one guy" is still read by dozens or hundreds here, especially if the SP's "fit" or offers a fun service.  Most people who have some sort of budget will endeavour to get value for money, it's only when whales throw their wad about that the girls are emboldened, you see it strip clubs, go go bars, brothels, freelancer cafes, hotel bars etc.

[westwardbound]

The Chinese places are the most likely to "settle" for reasonable prices unless you habituate them by over-paying.  The bleating about oh so many others in ignorance or apathy just pay more is the same CBA argument that leads to all the fucked up circumstances prevailing throughout society.  Each person needs to take a common ground stand for the collective to affect the situation.
If you want young masseuses to overpay without complaint "coz theyz young and fit" then hit up the clip joints in Soho or around the rail terminuses that are staffed by "Europeans", Latinas or Orientals probably selling Nuru and Tantric experiences.
BTW "telling one guy" is still read by dozens or hundreds here, especially if the SP's "fit" or offers a fun service.  Most people who have some sort of budget will endeavour to get value for money, it's only when whales throw their wad about that the girls are emboldened, you see it strip clubs, go go bars, brothels, freelancer cafes, hotel bars etc.

All things being equal prices should be the same everywhere... but all things are not equal and I think the key here is "VFM". Personally, I don't think it's unreasonable to pay a bit more for someone who is younger or more enthusiastic to have a really enjoyable session. We're certainly not all the same and I know there are girls out there who will or won't do FS based on whether you are fat as fuck or smell like you've never taken a shower.

sometimes you click with a SP and sometimes you don't. A little extra money on offer certainly improves the mood and chances of an enjoyable time with a chance of more enjoyable sessions in the future. I hate a hard negotiation before things have even gotten interesting, it usually results in a mediocre session. I've literally gotten off the table and left when extras are offered late in the game and negotiations sour the mood. If I wanted to have an argument over sex, I'd stay home every night 

[Arfnice73]

Wow!
If he wants to pay £1000 for a tug….its his money and he can do so. I don’t judge.
Doesn’t mean I’ll pay it and if you think the SP suddenly will demand the same from everyone you’re deluded.

[scutty brown]

FFS
I found a girl who I thought was attractive, who was pleasant to deal with, who offered an excellent service crawling all over me naked with an outstanding BJ, who I thought was worth cultivating in case I went back (which I intended to do but ran out of time). We ran over time, she was trusting enough to provide services without even negotiating a price upfront. Trust works both ways, I gave her what I thought was a sum that recognised that. My money, my decision. If you don't like that, well hard luck.

[Wado242]

Great review, funny I’ve been passing by this place for a while but had no idea what was going on lol. Does she happen to have tattoos and wear glasses? As I sometimes see a girl like that when passing by the Farringdon one.

[scutty brown]

Great review, funny I’ve been passing by this place for a while but had no idea what was going on lol. Does she happen to have tattoos and wear glasses? As I sometimes see a girl like that when passing by the Farringdon one.

I don't remember any tats, I was too busy looking at her tits, small as they were.
Glasses? Dunno, don't remember any but I can remember a joke from somewhere about me and a girl both  wearing glasses and it might just have been with her

[Wado242]

Ah ok fair enough so would you say just to look for the girl who looks the most like the pics at the beginning of the post ?

[scutty brown]

Ah ok fair enough so would you say just to look for the girl who looks the most like the pics at the beginning of the post ?

basically yes

[alfiebest]

Thank you for this

[Nick_Curran]

Here's my review of the same lady: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=415213.new#new.  Name is Kelly.

@Wado242: no tatts, no glasses.

[stonebow1]

Sorry but I really think you were over generous - at massage places, FS (including BBJ/CIM) is usually between £60 - £80. Paying her £100 just for the BBJ may set the new benchmark and now she may want that from every punter, and even more for FS? Each to their own, I guess, but the prices we pay individually tend to have an effect on subsequent prices set by the SPs. I know we can negotiate them down, but its makes it harder if they start with ludicrously high prices. Anyway I will TOFTT this place and see how it goes price wise.

Not agreeing the tip beforehand is a technique discussed in Freakonomics i believe.

On average, girls will get make more by not negotiating the price beforehand and letting the punter pay whatever on his way out.

[Global_Punter]

I appreciate the positive review. I often encounter different faces, but it would be great to request someone based on good feedback and attractiveness.

Regarding donations, it's really up to the customer to tip above the standard rate. Providers generally know the benchmark and won't pressure you for more if they can see that you’re not a novice. It's important to note that some people may not be aware of the going rate, which can lead them to pay more. This is similar to how locals sometimes complain about foreigners tipping higher at FKK venues. However, the provider will stick to the appropriate rate if you're familiar with the standard pricing. 

[oppaiSuki]

I agree too. Paying a bit more is ok but £100 for a BJ is excessive and it will make it harder for others to negotiate now she thinks it's the norm.

Sorry but I really think you were over generous - at massage places, FS (including BBJ/CIM) is usually between £60 - £80. Paying her £100 just for the BBJ may set the new benchmark and now she may want that from every punter, and even more for FS? Each to their own, I guess, but the prices we pay individually tend to have an effect on subsequent prices set by the SPs. I know we can negotiate them down, but its makes it harder if they start with ludicrously high prices. Anyway I will TOFTT this place and see how it goes price wise.

[scutty brown]

I agree too. Paying a bit more is ok but £100 for a BJ is excessive and it will make it harder for others to negotiate now she thinks it's the norm.

Go back and read my post #17
If you don't like it, tough. I was there, it was my punt, I paid what I thought was fair. Mock-philosophical issues over supposedly paying too much are a load of bollocks. You can do what you like on your visits, I'll look after mine

[beastmaster]

Go back and read my post #17
If you don't like it, tough. I was there, it was my punt, I paid what I thought was fair. Mock-philosophical issues over supposedly paying too much are a load of bollocks. You can do what you like on your visits, I'll look after mine

Scutty Brown, no criticism of you was intended. It's just that I remember in the past on previous threads that when punters paid a certain price that others deemed to be way above the normal rate, there were a lot of anguished howls from other punters about how this effectively raised the benchmark price and triggered SP price inflation. Their complaints would always be suffixed with this icon
Judging from this thread, I guess that sentiment is no longer held.
Anyway, I'll make sure that if I do visit and give the SP RO to the point of her orgasm, it'll cost her £100    

[tintin100]

more money then sense.

[beastmaster]

Scutty Brown, no criticism of you was intended. It's just that I remember in the past on previous threads that when punters paid a certain price that others deemed to be way above the normal rate, there were a lot of anguished howls from other punters about how this effectively raised the benchmark price and triggered SP price inflation. Their complaints would always be suffixed with this icon
Judging from this thread, I guess that sentiment is no longer held.
Anyway, I'll make sure that if I do visit and give the SP RO to the point of her orgasm, it'll cost her £100

here is an example of one post where a pnter paid a proce that was criticised by others
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=414251.msg4160936#msg4160936

[PumpDump]

I think if a punter pays over the top then it is right for other punters to point it out. £100 extra for a BJ is madness.

[Petetong888]

let people pay what they want

its nothing to do with anyone, what people pay.

you pay what you think a servuce is worth to YOU.

[scutty brown]

I think if a punter pays over the top then it is right for other punters to point it out. £100 extra for a BJ is madness.

I was there with the girl, you weren't.
I paid what I thought was a fair reflection of the service she gave me. That's my money, my decision. If you don't like it, tough: it's none of your business

[tintin100]

I was there with the girl, you weren't.
I paid what I thought was a fair reflection of the service she gave me. That's my money, my decision. If you don't like it, tough: it's none of your business

I think we are all entitled to our views. As I said more money then sense.

[PumpDump]

I was there with the girl, you weren't.
I paid what I thought was a fair reflection of the service she gave me. That's my money, my decision. If you don't like it, tough: it's none of your business

Of course it is up to you, but you posted about it here, you can't stop people giving their opinion.

[yesbby]

Of course it is up to you, but you posted about it here, you can't stop people giving their opinion.

You can't but it is terribly boring..

My opinion is it was a generous thing to do given it was essentially a tip and the attractive young girl had sucked him off in what was financially an act of trust. I'm pleased she was well rewarded. A bit of generosity is good to see on these boards.

[Stevelondon]

more money then sense.

Was that directed at scutty by any chance. Cos if it is its bollocks.

Well done scutty, cheers for the review.

[scutty brown]

To be truthful, considering where it was - right in the centre of London's financial district with some of the most expensive property and most expensive beer prices in the UK, I thought it was quite cheap. Average price for a pint around there seems to be around £7.50, I pay less than half that at home. If you cost it out in terms of relative pint equivalents, it was a bargain - a 13 pint tip at the prices round there

[tintin100]

Was that directed at scutty by any chance. Cos if it is its bollocks.

Well done scutty, cheers for the review.

yes, you can have your 2 pence worth as well.

[Nick_Curran]

I think we are all entitled to our views. As I said more money then sense.

Of course it is up to you, but you posted about it here, you can't stop people giving their opinion.

This is true.  Palpably!  However, quite aside from their unpleasant gatekeeping qualities, the type of opinions above a) add nothing at all constructive to the thread, and b) are misguided anyway.  Why?  Because the value of Act A in Setting B is not the same for one OP as another.  It depends on the OP's mood at the time, on the atmosphere created by the SP, on how attractive the OP finds the SP, and etc etc etc — on numerous variable factors, including all those related to an OP's budget and resources.  Put more simply, what constitutes good value for me and my peccadillos ain't gonna be good value for someone else; and vice versa.  Therefore ascribing good or bad value to any OP's experience is a fundamentally flawed process. 

[jamiekinkxxx]

of dear.... here come the

'too much'
'how dare you'
'you are spoiling it for the rest of us'

...crowd!!! 

OP was there, he gave what he felt was a fair rate.

Basically fuck the rest of you cheapsakes that would prefer he paid £0.99 for a BJ

That's my pennies worth anyhow.

Complaining about rates is so boring. Go and punt at the level you can and do not complain when other spend their own hard earned cash the way they feel is value for money!

Rant over! 

Good on you Scutty! Thanks to your review I saw her too! So cheers to you my friend! 

[krazeeeyez]

I don't care how much OP paid. Maybe she's hit her monthly target now and can do discounts for the rest of us 

Personally I'd go in with my budget and yes/no/haggle until myself and the girl are both happy.

[joninbristol]

It's like complaining about people who buy Ferraris putting prices up for the rest of us who can only afford a Ford Focus.
Total nonsense.

There's levels of service and prices at every level, and good luck to those who can demand £300 an hour plus - it's great money but fewer buyers, so you're not going to have much business. Though as Scutty says, in that part of the world, paying twice what you might elsewhere in the country for anything is pretty much the norm, as there's a captive customer base who are on average more affluent than in most other places. So why not take advantage of that as an SP if it still brings you loads of business? I would. Makes total sense.

And some SPs don't want much business, just the occasional extra spending money.

Conversely, if you're selling cheap and cheerful at £100 an hour and are reliable, you're going to consistently make more in a day, week and year than the £300 an hour SP, because you're making your services affordable to a much wider range of customers. SPs are pretty savvy to this, as they see business dry up very quickly if they price themselves out of the market.

Horses for courses.
Crack on and enjoy life.

[johnnyboy70]

these negative opinions is what stops people putting up reviews.
scutty you did the right thing. keep up the good work.
pay what you feel the girl is worth, not what other cheapskates are paying.
quality over quantity. i don't mind paying more for better looking girls than 50+ year olds that needs a tesco bag over their head. each to their own.
it's also about building rapport with a girl you like and long term better treatment from her.

[loveahe]

Thanks for the review, often pass this place and your review has made it go on my list of 'visit soon'. 

You pay what you feel is fair, depending on what you have in your wallet at the time for punting vouchers.

[scutty brown]

can someone add her name, "Kelly", to the title?
thanks