South Indian Tamil Girl - L1, Liverpool IT WAS A BLOKE!

[MJ.spritzen]

The most revolting experience I've had punting yet.

Saw this ad on Vivastreet: External Link/Members Only
Number was: 07716284201
Location was an apartment round the back of Sapporo restaurant.

Booking made by text. We never get Indian escorts here in Liverpool so I jumped at the chance.
Arrived at the location, door opens and I'm greeted by an Indian "woman" in traditional dress, spot on "her" head and wearing a covid face mask. This should have been my first clue. I step inside and it's pitch dark. I stumble my way in the dark to find "her" room and that too is pitch dark. I ask if we can put a light on and "she" tells me the light is broken "Look..." switches it on and the light comes on. Switches it off again "Broken".

WTF but ok. Money handed over. £120 fucking notes for 30mins.

"She" then proceeds to put a condom on my flaccid cock with lightning speed and starts wanking it really, really fast. I pull "her" top down and feel. Hm... this should have been my 2nd clue. They were tits, but small nipples and felt like the sort of tits a slightly overweight man might have. I can't get hard so ask if I can eat her pussy. "She" says no. Then I notice she has her legs closed tight together and has a little belly. "She" also has hairy arms.
One last test for MJ.Spritzen... I tell "her" to lie back so I can fuck her. "She" lies back covering her genital area with her hand hurrying me into her ass.

Fuck that.

I take the condom off and say I'm done.
"Why?!" "she asks in surprise.
"Because you've a man" I tell him.

He (yes, I'm using "he" now) stands up and storms into another room. His little willy flapping around confirming my suspicions. I hear lots of talking in the other room. Both sound man-ish. I dress quickly and leave.

This was easily the lowest point of my punting journey. Fuck me. £120 down the drain.

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[sailor_man]

Jesus mate!
You reacted far better than I would of! I’d of been straight in there for my cash back!

Least you are safe dude!

[Punterperson1971]

That was horrible mate hopefully your next one is a good one and a woman next time,shame you lost £120 but at least it’s reported so others may not make the mistake you made in booking he/it,not going to end well if the next person who books him/it decides he’s been made a mug of could end up nasty for him/it.

[MJ.spritzen]

Least you are safe dude!

This is what I keep thinking.

[markballoon]

Thanks for the review.  A lot of men wouldn't of even posted this.  Kudos to you.

[lewisjones23]

Thanks for reviewing MJ 👍🏻

Has anyone in the history of punting ever had a decent punt off Vivastreet? I genuinely don't even both looking on there ever. In my mind, AW is the market leader (not that its much of a compliment) so if a WG can't be arsed making a profile in there then I can't be arsed risking a punt with them

[Blue1878]

Profile gone already, he’s probably left the city already.

[PumpDump]

Horrible experience, and is actually a criminal offence. I am pretty sure this would be considered rape as you consented to sexual activity believing he was a female.

[MJ.spritzen]

Profile gone already, he’s probably left the city already.

Worth bring alert if similar ads pop up on VS. If I can deter a would-be punter then I'm glad.

[bdyno]

And there were no hints/clues on the profile it may have been a TS?

I know some of them are more TV than TS, and even though Vivastreet has a separate section for them a lot still post in the standard escorts section.  I've quite often seen ads on there which the only mention of it was the gender in the section just below the pictures that is easily skipped past when scrolling to the actual information below.

Either way, sounds like you had your worst nightmare!!!  Better luck next time.

[PumpDump]

Could this be the same one? Wording in the title is similar "SAMEERA SOUTH INDIAN TAMIL NADU GIRL IN WEMBLEY CENTRAL"

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[scutty brown]

Meet the hijra

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[MJ.spritzen]

And there were no hints/clues on the profile it may have been a TS?

I know some of them are more TV than TS, and even though Vivastreet has a separate section for them a lot still post in the standard escorts section.  I've quite often seen ads on there which the only mention of it was the gender in the section just below the pictures that is easily skipped past when scrolling to the actual information below.

I don't recall. But even so, it wouldn't explain why he was trying to hide his cock.

[Doctormike]

Wow sorry to hear about this experience
Glad you are safe

The pitch black would never work for me
I was impressed with your persistency

[Blue1878]

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Going back to the OPs original comment re the rare instance of an Indian WG visiting Liverpool, yet VS has 3 ads all for Tamil Wags. A game of which one doesn’t have a cock

[smit1234]

Bloody hell mate, you don't half find yourself in some memorable situations

[scutty brown]

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Going back to the OPs original comment re the rare instance of an Indian WG visiting Liverpool, yet VS has 3 ads all for Tamil Wags. A game of which one doesn’t have a cock

All three (which includes the one in the original post) were clearly written by the same person and presumably are marketing the same person

[Rack Admirer]

So horrible there is no amusement in hindsight at all. Unlucky OP. This hobby of ours is going down the swanny.

[MerlinGray]

Could this be the same one? Wording in the title is similar "SAMEERA SOUTH INDIAN TAMIL NADU GIRL IN WEMBLEY CENTRAL"

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"I AM YOUR BEST CHOICE AND WONT REGRET CALLING ME.A REAL WOMEN AND TRULY GENUINE WHO IS HOT AND KNOW WHAT GOOD TIME IS..."

Christ on a bike.

Very sorry for you MJ.

[Northerndave666]

Meet the new hijra

Same as the old hijra ? 

ps MJ, echoing what others have said, at least you walked away, albeit poorer for the ordeal. What a story to tell the Grandkids tho......

[Sinnerman10]

Did he/she have a sari on, just asking for a friend. 

[MJ.spritzen]

Did he/she have a sari on, just asking for a friend. 

He was, actually 

[Sinnerman10]

He was, actually 

Should have rolled he/she around in the sari, had some fun, got your £120 worth I would have.

[MJ.spritzen]

Sailor_man: I’d of been straight in there for my cash back!

In hindsight I should have. But arnt you afraid there might be a bloke tooled up in the next room? (No pun intended)

[bugsybum]

What a dirty lowlife rat. I'm raging just reading about it. Some punter will go fucking crazy and give out a beating would be fully deserved IMO.

[Sinnerman10]

What a dirty lowlife rat. I'm raging just reading about it. Some punter will go fucking crazy and give out a beating would be fully deserved IMO.

100% beating deserved, imagine rolling that sari expecting to see a fandango but it’s a Water hose. 

[Resources3xx]

Thanks for reviewing MJ 👍🏻

Has anyone in the history of punting ever had a decent punt off Vivastreet? I genuinely don't even both looking on there ever. In my mind, AW is the market leader (not that its much of a compliment) so if a WG can't be arsed making a profile in there then I can't be arsed risking a punt with them

yep, i had an amazing punt last week... HOWEVER it was the first success ive ever had off there. my first 2 viva punts were about 10 years ago and both were fake profiles and i thought "ah i see whats going on here". hadn't done a TOFTT off there again since last week. AW had nothing so the risk paid off big time. i guess there are just certain things to look out for. id say 75% is fake.including ALL the chinese one.  i reverse image the pic and if that checks out just directly text them asking if the profiles are really them. 


now if ive only punted of vivastreet 3 times im obviously not much of a risk taker but i get that there is a real buzz in taking a gamble and oh boy it feels good when you strike gold

[Resources3xx]

What a dirty lowlife rat. I'm raging just reading about it. Some punter will go fucking crazy and give out a beating would be fully deserved IMO.

lets hope

[Resources3xx]

the scumbags profile is back up.


like most people nowadays im very liberal. if you wanna fuck a chick with a dick go for it. and my heart goes out to anyone whos so messed up that they transition, but when you start affecting others then there's a problem. you cant take away someones right to consent. what happened to MJ.spritzen is straight up sexual assault. he wasnt giving the chance to consent to being involved in a sex act with another man. sorry to put it bluntly but thats what happened.

now here's the problem... we're blokes. thats why no one cares. when a woman is sexually assaulted, everyone is outraged. but when its a fella its played for laughs.

i blame anyone who has used the phrase "trans women are women" if you embrace this phrase then you dont believe what happened to MJ.spritzen is wrong. because ... hes straight.... hes into woman.... and since trans women are women he was about to fuck A WOMAN......so  whats the problem


i remember watching this program on this topic a few years ago External Link/Members Only the TITLE itself is problematic to me. THIS SHOULDNT EVEN BE A QUESTION. but its worrying how they want to make it the social norm that transpeople dont have to tell us,

until men grow some balls and go to the police this wont stop. this is happening more and more but they know they can get away with it because no one is willing to take them to court

 and this isnt a critisim of MJ.spritzen because guess what. if it happened to me i wouldnt be going to the police either

[bdyno]

i blame anyone who has used the phrase "trans women are women" if you embrace this phrase then you dont believe what happened to MJ.spritzen is wrong. because ... hes straight.... hes into woman.... and since trans women are women he was about to fuck A WOMAN......so  whats the problem

i remember watching this program on this topic a few years ago External Link/Members Only the TITLE itself is problematic to me. THIS SHOULDNT EVEN BE A QUESTION. but its worrying how they want to make it the social norm that transpeople dont have to tell us,

until men grow some balls and go to the police this wont stop. this is happening more and more but they know they can get away with it because no one is willing to take them to court

 and this isnt a critisim of MJ.spritzen because guess what. if it happened to me i wouldnt be going to the police either

I'm straight and I consider TS girls to be women.  Fucking them doesn't change the fact I'm straight.  Being straight means I don't fancy other men, and they aren't men.

But I do agree that they should be open about what they are when you get involved with them, whether it be via punting or normal life.

I do embrace the phase trans women are women.  Use of that phrase cannot be blamed for this situation.  However, I also agree that what happened here was very wrong. 
The fact is that considering trans women to be women is not the problem here, the problem here is one of deceit.

[T13]

Did she have a dick? It’s a man.
Get what you’re saying but every part of it is wrong.
There simply is no way of sugar coating it.

[Pat Phelan]

the scumbags profile is back up.


like most people nowadays im very liberal. if you wanna fuck a chick with a dick go for it. and my heart goes out to anyone whos so messed up that they transition, but when you start affecting others then there's a problem. you cant take away someones right to consent. what happened to MJ.spritzen is straight up sexual assault. he wasnt giving the chance to consent to being involved in a sex act with another man. sorry to put it bluntly but thats what happened.

now here's the problem... we're blokes. thats why no one cares. when a woman is sexually assaulted, everyone is outraged. but when its a fella its played for laughs.

i blame anyone who has used the phrase "trans women are women" if you embrace this phrase then you dont believe what happened to MJ.spritzen is wrong. because ... hes straight.... hes into woman.... and since trans women are women he was about to fuck A WOMAN......so  whats the problem


i remember watching this program on this topic a few years ago External Link/Members Only the TITLE itself is problematic to me. THIS SHOULDNT EVEN BE A QUESTION. but its worrying how they want to make it the social norm that transpeople dont have to tell us,

until men grow some balls and go to the police this wont stop. this is happening more and more but they know they can get away with it because no one is willing to take them to court

 and this isnt a critisim of MJ.spritzen because guess what. if it happened to me i wouldnt be going to the police either

So on the one hand you’re telling men to grow a pair and report it to the police, yet you also state that you wouldn’t do that yourself if it happened to you. I agree with most of the things you pointed out but that was a bit dumb.

[Pat Phelan]

I'm straight and I consider TS girls to be women.  Fucking them doesn't change the fact I'm straight.  Being straight means I don't fancy other men, and they aren't men.

But I do agree that they should be open about what they are when you get involved with them, whether it be via punting or normal life.

I do embrace the phase trans women are women.  Use of that phrase cannot be blamed for this situation.  However, I also agree that what happened here was very wrong. 
The fact is that considering trans women to be women is not the problem here, the problem here is one of deceit.

If someone is born with a penis and testicles they are male. No operation can ever undo that. Trans women are not women. They are men without a dick and a pair of nuts. Some men might be into that, but it should be clearly stated in the advert otherwise it’s deceit

[bdyno]

If someone is born with a penis and testicles they are male. No operation can ever undo that. Trans women are not women. They are men without a dick and a pair of nuts. Some men might be into that, but it should be clearly stated in the advert otherwise it’s deceit

Did she have a dick? It’s a man.
Get what you’re saying but every part of it is wrong.
There simply is no way of sugar coating it.

Given your comments, I'm interested to find out both of your opinions on this escort who was born with and still has a vagina....
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[lewisjones23]

Given your comments, I'm interested to find out both of your opinions on this escort who was born with and still has a vagina....
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This is a genuine question as I honestly don't know.

What is someone described as if they fancy that person? Like genuinely, that is a man in all aspects apart from having a fanny

[Snagbadjer]

You should have put him in a korma.

[bdyno]

This is a genuine question as I honestly don't know.

What is someone described as if they fancy that person? Like genuinely, that is a man in all aspects apart from having a fanny

I'd say if a man fancies that person, they're gay, or at least bi if they fancy women too.  IMO, a women who fancies that escort could still consider herself straight.

[Resources3xx]

So on the one hand you’re telling men to grow a pair and report it to the police, yet you also state that you wouldn’t do that yourself if it happened to you. I agree with most of the things you pointed out but that was a bit dumb.

Yep I’m 100% acknowledging my own hypocrisy

I’d rather be honest with you instead of lying just to make myself look good

So, I’m saying I SHOULD  do something  but if it happened I WOULDNT have the balls, personally I don’t want the humiliation it would cause my family

Guess what mate every human has been in a situation where they SHOULD do something but they DONT

If u are honestly tellin me u DO everything u SHOULD…. WOW u might be the world’s first perfect human being. Nice to meet you 

Anyway I stand by what I said. A reason why a lot of these predators are confident doing this is because they know most us men SHOULD go to the police but we won’t

[Resources3xx]

Given your comments, I'm interested to find out both of your opinions on this escort who was born with and still has a vagina....
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I’d like to answer this

He’s a woman. And yes I used the incorrect pronouns because it doesn’t matter if I use he she or tweedle Dee. Because he’s still a woman. A very very very very very masculine woman. Possibly the WORLDS most masculine woman… but still a woman that’s the reailty

This trans man and I are not part of the same sex category. You and I are. If we can’t acknowledge this very fundamental fact it’s a serious problem. You can try to find these very perculier anomalies to try to blur the lines and confuse us but the fact remains… FEMALE

 Now I’m sure you’ll ask

“Well if he’s a woman would you sleep with him”

and the answer is … no! Just like I would not sleep with most woman(despite me joking that I would) Just like i wouldn’t sleep with Hannah gatsby who’s another masculine woman. Just like I wouldn’t sleep with Susan Boyle either. You can add this transman to the list

[Cheshuk]

I’d like to answer this

He’s a woman. And yes I used the incorrect pronouns because it doesn’t matter if I use he she or tweedle Dee. Because he’s still a woman. A very very very very very masculine woman. Possibly the WORLDS most masculine woman… but still a woman that’s the reailty

This trans man and I are not part of the same sex category. You and I are. If we can’t acknowledge this very fundamental fact it’s a serious problem. You can try to find these very perculier anomalies to try to blur the lines and confuse us but the fact remains… FEMALE

 Now I’m sure you’ll ask

“Well if he’s a woman would you sleep with him”

and the answer is … no! Just like I would not sleep with most woman(despite me joking that I would) Just like i wouldn’t sleep with Hannah gatsby who’s another masculine woman. Just like I wouldn’t sleep with Susan Boyle either. You can add this transman to the list

same I consider him female due to reproductive organs, but I would refer to her as 'he' out of consideration. Theres clear differences between people born to a gender and transitioning, testosterone levels and the like, reproductive organs etc, so I kinda view trans as a third category. Anyone sexually attracted to them I don't find heterosexual, bi or homosexual fitting, I tend to go with gynosexual or maybe pansexual for those who like women & transwomen, but theres loads of labels to suit all preferences.

With regard to this review, theres certainly people who would consider this person a women if he identifies as one, despite the fact from op's description theres no physical transition. Therefore see it as pointless debating labels and defintions, as I can't see it being agreed. At the end of the day we all understand the concepts, so don't see much benefit in debate outside of how to accommodate it in society.

[T13]

Given your comments, I'm interested to find out both of your opinions on this escort who was born with and still has a vagina....
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That is a good question and one I don’t think I know an amswer to.
I do know I definitely wouldn’t fuck it

[Snagbadjer]

It's a man. But in this weird era of reality denial, naturally some will apply the appropriate mental acrobatics to delude themselves into thinking that it is a woman. Man.

[Cheshuk]

It's a man. But in this weird era of reality denial, naturally some will apply the appropriate mental acrobatics to delude themselves into thinking that it is a woman. Man.

who are you talking about? ftm means born a woman and became a man, so if you don't 'deny reality' surely you would say below is a woman

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[PumpDump]

who are you talking about? ftm means born a woman and became a man, so if you don't 'deny reality' surely you would say below is a woman

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If the person in the photo was born with a vagina and a uterus, then she is a women. It doesn't matter how she alters her appearance using chemicals, surgery or stick on beards.

[Pat Phelan]

who are you talking about? ftm means born a woman and became a man, so if you don't 'deny reality' surely you would say below is a woman

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It’s a woman who has gone to extreme lengths to appear like a man. She would fool most until you see what’s between her legs.

[Cheshuk]

If the person in the photo was born with a vagina and a uterus, then she is a women. It doesn't matter how she alters her appearance using chemicals, surgery or stick on beards.

It’s a woman who has gone to extreme lengths to appear like a man. She would fool most until you see what’s between her legs.

i'm aware, I was responding to Snagbadjer who was either talking about someone else or seemed to think they were originally a dude & removed/inverted or whatever they do with their dick