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............ Always liked Yang though, I never got the impression she was up to that

But that's what makes criminals successful.......

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I drove past Yangs yesterday and the lights were all on, obviously I wouldn’t knock on the door, but would love to know the truth about all this.

Offline GoldTop

Also, Yang was a working girl herself who moved into the nanny role in recent years. Not sure if that means she’s more or less likely to show empathy for the victims. She may have been a victim herself at some point.

If she'd been a victim, one might hope she'd know better.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2024, 04:28:48 pm by GoldTop »

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If she'd been a victim, one might hope she'd know better.

That’s what I’d hope. Sometimes they think they can do to others as was done to them.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2024, 05:18:14 pm by NottsThaiLover »

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I drove past Yangs yesterday and the lights were all on, obviously I wouldn’t knock on the door, but would love to know the truth about all this.

I thought she was up a cul-de-sac  :D

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I thought she was up a cul-de-sac  :D
Well I did a u turn in the courtyard bit  :lol:

Was tempted to knock on to offer emotional support inside here  :lol: :lol: :lol:
« Last Edit: September 22, 2024, 08:27:38 pm by Iloveoral »

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Her ad was still up last week  :unknown:

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Her ad was still up last week  :unknown:

Perhaps better for her to say she’s also one of the working girls rather than a nanny/master.

Offline Newtothisstuff

Perhaps better for her to say she’s also one of the working girls rather than a nanny/master.
Or maybe she's in enough trouble already and has been instructed not to tamper with evidence?
This is all speculation. We'll just have to wait until the court reporter writes about the case.
If girls were trafficked, then anyone involved needs to spend a very long time in prison.

Offline Snagbadjer

I'm surprised the police even bothered, given that they aren't interested in crime anymore, especially crimes involving abuse of women. Maybe the council moaned to the MP or some local businesses were affected?

Offline Newtothisstuff

My guess is that it's more to do with Notts police having recently been rated as inadequate in several key areas. So, they raid a known parlour or two. They get some good headlines, some arrests to bolster their figures and they appear to be trying to help women at the same time. It also means they can make arrests and still not have to bother turning up to shoplifting and burglaries or actually go out patrolling.
I was in Ollerton recently and the local press was talking about some woman the police had just arrested. Despite a huge number of previous shoplifting offences, she'd only been given a Criminal Behaviour Order to stay out of Ollerton shops. She didn't.  She carried on shoplifting.  Yet despite everyone knowing who she was, it still took the police another 2 months to act, by which time she'd robbed another 11 shops and assaulted staff.
Parlour raids are just a PR exercise for the police.
I travel to the area a lot and local clients have a very poor opinion of the police.  Car thieves travel to Nottinghamshire because they know they're far less likely to get caught.

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Whether it's PR exercise or not, trafficking needs stopping and I suppose we are also part of the problem.

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Wouldn’t be surprised if the “star lights” have reported the competition as they seem to be paying for featured ads now, and spreading across the country like wild fire, but I guess the cops aren’t seeing a red flag there, which must be seriously organised.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2024, 11:03:04 am by Iloveoral »

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Wouldn’t be surprised if the “star lights” have reported the competition as they seem to be paying for featured ads now, and spreading across the country like wild fire, but I guess the cops aren’t seeing a red flag there, which must be seriously organised.

Who is this Star Lights

When I’ve seen the ads - the women look amazing - but as soon as I see Star Lights, I just close the ad and move on - been meaning to ask

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Who is this Star Lights

When I’ve seen the ads - the women look amazing - but as soon as I see Star Lights, I just close the ad and move on - been meaning to ask

National trafficking gang who offer a service to local girl-of-the-week joints.
They look after the website / profiles, provide and transport the girls and charge rent for them. They can be rented by the week/month. They also look after the training / breaking in / indoctrination to teach the girls how to fuck and look happy at all times

There are several such gangs nationwide

Offline GoldTop

Her ad was still up last week  :unknown:

If I was arrested, I would deny it was my ad anyway.

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National trafficking gang who offer a service to local girl-of-the-week joints.
They look after the website / profiles, provide and transport the girls and charge rent for them. They can be rented by the week/month. They also look after the training / breaking in / indoctrination to teach the girls how to fuck and look happy at all times

There are several such gangs nationwide
If simple punters know all this, it begs the question "why don't the police?"  If they don't know - they ought to. If they do know, why aren't they stepping in to protect these girls?  It's not as if they're hard to find. There are adverts all over the Internet.
I understand how they let some parlours with UK girls stay open as it can be safer for the girls than being on the street. But why aren't they doing anything about the brothels and massage parlours trafficking girls?

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Funding??
Possibly. But if they actually bothered to apply the Proceeds Of Crime Act, they'd be able to seize and later on sell any assets. Cars, bank accounts. Hell, they could even flog the old massage tables on eBay.
Maybe the house owner or landlord should be liable for part or all of the bill.  They profited from criminal activity in a property they own. They can't claim they didn't know. Landlords must inspect properties. Gas safety checks also have to be done. Someone would spot the place was being used as a brothel. If the house is owned outright, nobody could seriously expect a house owner to be allowing unknown people to use the house without some form of checking being done. They can't claim ignorance.
If the property owner claims that they can't pay, then sell the house and recover the cost from that.
Use the money to pay for the police and court time.

Offline Thecunninglinguist

They don't need to "apply" for it. It is split 3 ways, the courts, the police and the CPS. Victims can also apply to recoup financial losses.

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National trafficking gang who offer a service to local girl-of-the-week joints.
They look after the website / profiles, provide and transport the girls and charge rent for them. They can be rented by the week/month. They also look after the training / breaking in / indoctrination to teach the girls how to fuck and look happy at all times

There are several such gangs nationwide

Wonder what a week would cost at trade price.  :D
The missus is away on holiday with her mates  :lol:

Offline Snagbadjer

If simple punters know all this, it begs the question "why don't the police?"  If they don't know - they ought to. If they do know, why aren't they stepping in to protect these girls?  It's not as if they're hard to find. There are adverts all over the Internet.
I understand how they let some parlours with UK girls stay open as it can be safer for the girls than being on the street. But why aren't they doing anything about the brothels and massage parlours trafficking girls?

Because they don't care. Same as they don't care about grooming victims. Ofc they know who most of the culprits are - maybe not so much with the national and international trafficking gangs who are above some low down taxi drivers - but they certainly aren't hampered by a lack of good intel. And it's not a lack of funding - they get loads of funding, they just waste it on bs.

I was in Doncaster for a punt and there were people openly dealing drugs on the street while kids and mums were walking past. But if you rang 999 to report the crime, I bet the call handler would bite your head off for bothering them.

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That’s a lot of ad’s


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Yeah, and I could show you other groups with more, some not so obvious

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You’d expect the cops to concentrate more on the larger groups?
I still think they put a word in to loose the competition
Wonder where the mobile number goes too
« Last Edit: September 25, 2024, 01:02:09 am by Iloveoral »

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When you scroll through the Viva Street Ads, there are seldom more than two or three which have genuine pictures of the girl in question and they are almost always Thai.  I often wonder how many of the ads are actually linked to girls who are working.  If they are, there are apparently about thirty asian girls working in Nottingham at the moment.

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Which obviously, I don't believe. 

Offline GoldTop

Love the fact we're all shagging trafficked chinese birds but a key instinct is to A) Pray the nanny is ok and B) blame the police
« Last Edit: September 25, 2024, 08:37:38 am by GoldTop »

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Love the fact we're all shagging trafficked chinese birds but a key instinct is to A) Pray the nanny is ok and B) blame the police
Speak for yourself.  I am not shagging trafficked Chinese girls and I haven't said anything about the nanny or the police. 

Offline Jonesy69

Love the fact we're all shagging trafficked chinese birds but a key instinct is to A) Pray the nanny is ok and B) blame the police

😂😂 pissa

Offline Snagbadjer

Love the fact we're all shagging trafficked chinese birds but a key instinct is to A) Pray the nanny is ok and B) blame the police

Hello mate. I avoid Chinese SPs and would never knowingly see a trafficked SP. As for the people acting like they are best friends with the madams, I think they are deluded and creepy.

Offline NottsSteve

You’d expect the cops to concentrate more on the larger groups?

Likely because it would involve a task force from across different counties. Much easier for Notts police to raid a Notts only outfit than to try to get multiple forces to agree to all work together when some likely want to focus on other types of crime that are more relevant for their area.

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Likely because it would involve a task force from across different counties. Much easier for Notts police to raid a Notts only outfit than to try to get multiple forces to agree to all work together when some likely want to focus on other types of crime that are more relevant for their area.


Sounds like this was a national operation based on the link ILO shared

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« Last Edit: September 26, 2024, 10:52:41 am by NottsThaiLover »

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Sounds like this was a national operation based on the link ILO shared

National prostitution ring 'smashed' External Link/Members Only

looks like there are four of five different groups who this could have been, these are two of the possibles
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If simple punters know all this, it begs the question "why don't the police?"  If they don't know - they ought to. If they do know, why aren't they stepping in to protect these girls?  It's not as if they're hard to find. There are adverts all over the Internet.
I understand how they let some parlours with UK girls stay open as it can be safer for the girls than being on the street. But why aren't they doing anything about the brothels and massage parlours trafficking girls?

Simple punters don't know all this - you need to look at things critically before it becomes apparent. To most of our members much of this is new.
As for the police not knowing - well how could they? They're not exposed to it every day, they don't know where to look or even how to look. For most of them Adultwork and Vivastreet are unknown quantities. They can't simply pick up a phone and ask "are you trafficked", and they haven't the manpower to ask every girl for an address and then visit her.......and anyway such an operation would fall foul of the law anyway - notably because it could be seen as a fishing trip or enticement.
The police can only act if they've been targeted as to where to go: which means they need information. Either from nosy neighbours worried about strangers knocking on doors, or more usefully from punters who've gone somewhere, seen the condition of the girls and made the decision to do something and call the police,
These recent arrests will only have happened because a punter or punters somewhere have seen something wrong and then made a deliberate decision to get involved and make a difference

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I get what you're saying about many punters not knowing. I wouldn't have known when I started punting and I was naive enough to think that many places just offering massages were any different.
As for the police. There I disagree. The police have officers in every county who are supposed to be trained how to look for this. They can't be unaware of the adverts online. The groups advertising hundreds of different foreign girls on sites like VS aren't even subtle.  In a nutshell, I'm glad they raided the properties, look to have rescued the girls and made arrests. I just think they could have acted a lot sooner. Some of the groups have been advertising for several years. It's like posting a giant 'arrest us now' poster the police didn't seem to notice.

Offline GoldTop

Maybe somebody somewhere somehow needs to enlighten DS Gallagher of Nottinghamshire Police

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Based on that a couple that arranged it all got 18 months each and the “nanny” as such the Chinese guy, was deported.

Quite a few if you Google it

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"Thanks to vigilant members of the public who reported this activity at an early stage"

LOL society  :D

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"Thanks to vigilant members of the public who reported this activity at an early stage"

LOL society  :D

I don't understand what you're laughing about


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they beat my estimate by a week

Give it four weeks and the gangs will have replaced them with new local managers, probably in different houses/locations.
In the meantime you've got seven definite Chinese working addresses still operating in the local area plus possibly another four or five.
Star Lights are involved in at least three of them, possibly more.

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I don't understand what you're laughing about

Im laughing at the usual curtain twitchers who cannot focus on their own lives.

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I see star lights are also advertising Indian and Thai girls, not sure how a Chinese will pass for Indian but I thought interesting  :lol:

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She says she's 23? Must be counting in Mars years, because on Earth, that maths isn't adding up!

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I see star lights are also advertising Indian and Thai girls, not sure how a Chinese will pass for Indian but I thought interesting  :lol:

if you get one from my local take away, you can't tell which curry is Chinky or Indian  :sarcastic:

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I bet the cops are outside her place watching  :lol:

I would assume it’s legal for her to work alone, for herself, providing she’s legit in the country.

Offline GoldTop

I bet the cops are outside her place watching  :lol:

I would assume it’s legal for her to work alone, for herself, providing she’s legit in the country.

I rang and texted on new number. Nothing